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The Historic Night That Got Away

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  • There was an avalanche of reader feedback to last night's news, but a post by Desidero Auroleu on following the rules hit all the right buttons. Reader Doctor Cleveland also wrote an inspiring entry on Clinton's important barrier-breaking campaign and what she accomplished in spite of her defeat. Cleveland writes: "The perverse triumph of Senator Clinton's campaign is that she lost, by and large, for the reasons other politicians lose. She was tied to an important vote that became a political disadvantage as circumstances changed." Reader Atreides Hawk wrote on why Obama shouldn't pick Clinton as his veep.
  • In non-Obama news, Russ Hoyle writes about Nathaniel Fick, an Ivy League-educated commander in Iraq who wrote a memoir, and has spoken out on why Iraq never "posed a strategic threat to the U.S. that justified the death of a single U.S. Marine under his command."
  • Reader ItsNeverOver writes about a trip to Cuba, and seeing the town of Guantanamo and everything it represented. "Here was a structure, a prison, which stood to represent American-branded justice, yet its very existence went against everything our country stood for."
  • The night wouldn't have been complete without a good McCain post. Nathan Jaco delivers with an entry that lays out why voting for John McCain is voting for war with Iran.


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"Following the Rules" hits all the right buttons? It was ridiculously shallow, and when asked to be specific by reasonable people, Des just accused them of being shallow.

Hillary Clinton: The new Ghandi, Rosa Parks, etc! Hint: Ghandi and Rosa didn't have any input into the rules they were breaking. They weren't married to the person the rule-makers wanted to impress. Oh, forget it, I couldn't finish the thread. Maybe it got really good after the first 50 responses.

I won't bother with your other recommendations.

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I think Des was being a little more subtle. I second Ben's response. The post certainly pushed your buttons.

I suppose you could say Des "hit all the right buttons" if you enjoy stream of consciousness condescension.

By "hit the right buttons", he means "How'd you like a Hawaiian Punch". 5 good reasons to like that post.

Cool. "Pushing the right buttons" is the key then?

Are you sure about that? Really, really sure?

Desi's blog didn't really come to a point... it did, however, have a nice jingoistic tone and was devoid of any sense of historical sweep. Most of her so-called American "rule breaking" doesn't stand up to scrutiny as a briefly pointed out:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/06/following-the-rules.php#comment-2880133

I went through the entire blog because it was on your list. Poor call, here. And my buttons are pushed, not because of Desi's post, but because you decided to recommend it as a read.

"Jingoistic tone and devoid of historic sweep." Curious, in an article that swung through WWI, the Mexican wars and what not, hard to imagine what you would like for "historic sweep". Did not mention Alexander, nor Jason and the Argonauts, though have touched on them elsewhere.

I assume you're comparing me to something out there, care to share what?

Let me be clearer: devoid of a knowledge of the sweep of history.

Your notions of the US don't stand up to scrutiny. I made my point on your blog (starting with the link above and continuing with FrogLegs).

Amen, CVille Dem!

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On Obama & McCain V.P. choices:

1a. Obama could/should pick a woman, but not Hillary Clinton. Several good choices from swing state senate and governors.

1b.He must NOT pick a misogynist anti-female male such as Jim Webb, or others who are anti-choice. That will give women excuse to stay home or even vote for McCain, especially if McCain selects a woman (even if that woman is anti-choice).

2. Very scary for Democrats if McCain picks a woman. That is the only McCain VP choice that makes a difference. It could actually swing some of the supposedly outraged Clintonista white women to McCain, despite his and his party’s immensely anti-female personality and policies (anti-choice, anti-equal pay, misogynist horndog (called wife c*&t, cheated multiple time on fist wife, etc.) militarism, etc).

3. If Obama loses with Clinton having undercut him, there is no way she get the nomination in 2012. There will be new people running, including new women, and Clinton (both of them) will be remembered as having destroyed the Democratic party and the country.

It's a shame you picked Auroleu's misguided post to praise, because you look like an intelligent person.

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