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The Ones that Got Away

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  • Reader Waldengirl reflects on the divisions between class, race, and gender identities which threaten to fracture the Democratic party, and discusses the difficulties of transforming the "big tent" into a unified front
  • Despite a generally optimistic feeling on the left, Robert Koulish argues that the prevailing influence of Conservatism on American politics is far from dead
  • Princeton historian Sean Wilentz, who has been sticking his neck out for Sen. Clinton throughout the campaign, recently wrote up a piece arguing that an Obama nomination threatens to break apart the Democrats' century-and-a-half old demographic base. Reader Akbar Jenkins says Wilentz is silly to fault Obama for failing to hold together Andrew Jackson's winning coalition

  • Over the last couple weeks reader Big Blue has been working on a series of profiles of potential VP candidates. This week he looks at the possibility of John Edwards resurfacing as Obama's second in command

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Perhaps someone can explain this to me.

Listening to NPR the last couple of months I hear woman after woman call in, when the opportunity arises, to say that they would cross over to McCain rather than vote for Obama if Clinton doesn't win the nomination.

I have a hard time with this on two levels.

First, and knowing that Clinton seems to have morphed to the right wing of the Democratic party, they would rather vote for a party that is clearly mysoginistic and anti-democratic (small "D").

I was more sympathetic to Clinton at the outset than I am now as she seems not to recognize when she drops into Republican thinking. But we started out with two strong candidates, one the first woman, the other the first black to run for president. Who to choose?

Obama has run the better race, appeals to youth, and talked a gradually clearing message while Clinton has convoluted her own. He has more support measured by money and votes and endorsements. Clinton stays in the race, running up her debt AND expecting Obama to do a deal and pay the debt off. That's cheek beyond any level of modesty. She needs to back out.

If Clinton had won the nomination, should the black populace have fled to the Republicans? It makes no sense! What with this and white, blue-collar males, particularly in Southern states, it underlines the racism that is an undercurrent of the United States, even now, doesn't it?

Explain.

Lying Trolls; pawns from the neo-con's fascist repertoire. The Ministry of Good 'Ol U.S. Propaganda, is trying to get to you. Ignore the tools. They're attempting to render you ineffective in the upcoming election.

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Tuesday's VP Profile has been posted. Today it's Claire McCaskill (Sen-MO). The post can be found here:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/05/vice-presidential-profile-sen.php

Regarding: "Despite a generally optimistic feeling on the left, Robert Koulish argues that the prevailing influence of Conservatism on American politics is far from dead":
Do Not confuse the neo-con abomination with Conservatism. The neo-cons are fascists, plain and simple. Those Nazis are masquerading behind the Conservative 'brand-name'. Real conservatives aren't bad people, nor are they extremists. Our Nation's internal argument is with Fascists and Extremists. Let's not have any 'friendly fire' incidents marring our war with those scum.

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Exactly, Fathoms.

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