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Good Frum, Bad Frum

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In the current New Yorker, George Packer quotes David Frum's new book, Comeback: Conservatism That Can Win Again, as follows:

If Republican politicians quote Reagan, their political operatives study Nixon... Republicans have been reprising Nixon's 1972 campaign against McGovern for a third of a century. As the excesses of the 1960s have dwindled into history, however, the 1972 campaign has worked less and less well.

Tell it to John "Swift Boat" Kerry. But I digress.

Frum goes on: "How many more elections can conservatives win by campaigning against Abbie Hoffman and Bobby Seale? Voters want solutions to the problems of today."

That's high-minded David Frum, thinking positively about how the wonders of "the market" will solve all the problems it's failed to solve for the last, oh, century. Republicans, it follows, need to become the high-road party, zooming away that muddy old low-road ditch where Nixon Way flows into Rove Alley. Not having read Comeback, I'll take George Packer's word for it that Frum's positive ideas represent "a candid change of heart from a writer who, in [his 1994 book Dead Right] called Republican efforts to compete with Clinton's universal-health-coverage plan 'cowardly.'" Perhaps, in Frum's book, it's time to rouse interest in a Republican Party that might improve on George W. Bush, about whom Frum wrote in his previous book, The Right Man: "His vision was large and clear." Clear. Can Frum tear himself away from the large and clear vision of the man he not so long go considered "right"? It would seem he's still a "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists" kind of guy.

Facing an actual political campaign where his current (see my last paragraph below if you can't bear the suspense) candidate is in trouble, Frum recently finds it timely to note that neither the health care disgrace, nor a miserable war, nor the prospects of more miserable wars, nor a floundering economy, nor a meltdown of housing and glaciers, nor the depredations of an all-around ruinous regime that has shoved the nation's reputation into a quagmire but...patriotism is the problem. Yes, Frum wrote last week:

Patriotism is an important background theme in this election year. The Democrats are likely to nominate a presidential candidate whose pastor has called on God to damn America and whose wife confesses that she has never in her life till now felt proud of her country. The candidate himself belittles flags and other symbols of nationhood as false and meaningless. Obama's supporters of course bitterly resent any questions about the patriotism issue. But they could also use some answers.

He goes on to state three main gripes with my account of patriotism in my 2006 book The Intellectuals and the Flag.

The first is that I "bring scant moral energy" to the subject of left-wing anti-Americanism; that "like Obama, who could never muster any shock or indignation until Rev. Wright ceased denouncing America and started criticizing him, Gitlin's patriotism excuses, condones, and still inwardly sympathizes with anti-patriotism."

I had thought I might have expended enough moral energy over the years, not to mention chapters and verses, on the stupidities of the Left, as in hundreds of pages in my book, The Sixties, with some more moral energy left over for Letters to a Young Activist , to satisfy the morally lavish David Frum, but silly me. Maybe I'm too effete to care with the same quanta of uplifting moral energy that he can bring to bear on the subject of, say, the axis of evil.

I must have been too busy excusing and condoning to address Frum's second charge, that the patriotism I advocate is "a patriotism without content and without qualities. In this again, he reminds me of Obama." I suppose Frum was too busy whipping his moral energies into shape to notice the parts of my essay where I distinguish between symbolic patriotism (pins and magnetic ribbons ready, everyone?) and the genuine article, which requires shared public life and "is not enacted strictly by being expressed in symbolic fashion. It is with effort and sacrifice, not pride or praise, that citizens honor the democratic covenant"; or the passage where I quoted the political theorist John Schaar to the effect that patriotism "is more than a frame of mind. It is also activity guided by and directed toward the mission established in the founding covenant." Or...well, you get the point, if you're not David Frum.

Finally, in an appendage Frum calls a third point, he says: "Like Obama in his Philadelphia race speech, Gitlin tries to distinguish between the fearfully flawed United States as it is - and the reformed country into which the United States might evolve." Not such a bad idea, you might think, but Frum attributes to me the view that "It is the latter, hypothetical, country that deserves patriotic affection. But there is this one problem: that hypothetical country does not as yet exist. This is not patriotism - it is a wish fantasy. And it is this wish fantasy, this shrinking from realities, this attempt to let phrases do the work of real ideas, that is the ultimate failure not just of a single book, but of the whole new approach to patriotism that this book and the Obama campaign attempts to sell a rightly skeptical America."

Well. Perhaps Frum did not study so much American history while a bright young lad in his native land of Canada. Or perhaps there is some other reason why he misses my argument that "the reformed country into which the United States might evolve," the America of which I write is an America that I haven't made up, but an America with deep, deep roots that might be summarized in the names Tom Paine, Frederick Douglass, Abraham Lincoln, Eugene Debs, Walter Reuther, Martin Luther King....

Try as he may to take a walk on the high road, Frum is an inveterate treason-hunter. On the brink of war in 2003, he accused the likes of Patrick Buchanan and Robert Novak, conservatives who opposed the Iraq adventure, of being (what else?) "unpatriotic conservatives" making "war against America," since "they have made common cause with the left-wing and Islamist antiwar movements in this country and in Europe. They deny and excuse terror."

A bare six months ago, Frum signed on as "senior policy advisor" (are there any junior policy advisors?) to Rudy Giuliani. After Rudy's crash and burn, he has to settle for second best--John "Bomb-Bomb-Iran" McCain. Like McCain, he masters the art of claiming to perform straight talk with crooked tongue.


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David Frumm is one of the most dangerous people in our country. Rather than adopting the classic hysterical neoconservative tone, he speaks in a cool, moderated cadence that hypnotises the so-called "centrist" -- yeah, right -- voter before he or she can even attempt to parse the poison he is pouring into the voter's ear.

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Patriotism is performance, the use of signs and symbols to evoke emotion; it has no content.

Anyone who has to explain his "patriotism" (Gitlin, for example) is a guaranteed loser -- and Frum and more importantly, McCain know it.

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Fortunately for Frum he didn't have to explain 'his' patriotism. If he did, I wonder, would he be a patriotic Canadian, (he may still be a Canadian citizen) or a patriotic American?

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no content.

isn't tribalism the semiotic content? As the credo of the new paradigm gnostics has it:

I believe in the suppression of inflammation
Always and everywhere in the body.

I believe that money now is better than money later, always and everywhere in the universe.

I believe that tribalism sucks, always and everywhere in the universe

I believe in the redemptive power of lysergic acid

I believe that those tits might be real.

I believe I'll have a bit more pie--some of each if you don't mind.

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This is a good pie. This is a proud and free pie. This is a representative democracy pie. In its crust is baked the sugar of civil liberty and the flour of equal justice for all. It is America's pie.

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A better link.

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There are others who say no way man

Word.

And while I'm on the subject, Tommy Chong got a truly raw deal.

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As an ex-patriot (not a misspelling) veteran of the Nixon-Kissinger Fig Leaf Contingent (Vietnam 1970-1972), I agree totally with Civil War veteran Ambrose Beirce's definition of "patriotism," namely:

"Combustible rubbish ready to the torch of any man ambitious to illuminate his name."

As for those current victim/Visigoths of the Cheney-Bush Buy Time Brigade busy bombing the shit out of Iraqi civilians just as remorselessly as Panama-John McBomb did to some Vietnamese decades ago, I agree with Bierce's definition of "patriot," namely:

"The dupe of statesmen and the tool of conquerors."

And like King Pyrrhus said of his suicidal "victories," I say of America's "patriotism" and "patriots," to wit:

"Much more of this and many more of these and we can just kiss our own asses goodbye."

In my ex-patriot mind, the putative "conversation" between Mr. Frum and Mr. Gitlin founders on the rhetorical rocks of worthless babble and self-serving jargon. In truth, America has become simply Orwellian in the meaninglessness of its public lexicon. In 1984, Orwell had Syme put it this way to Winston Smith in the Ministry of Truth:

You don't grasp the beauty of the destruction of words. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year? ... Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. ... Has it ever occurred to you, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?

I can't even understand the duckspeaking conversation between Mr. Gitlin and Mr. Frum in 2008, so I can only suppose that by 2050 comprehensible language itself will have most likely disappeared along with the humans who once possessed the ability to think in it. At any rate, this bogus bantering back and forth about "patriotism" in a bankrupt language nobody understands reminds me of Lewis Carroll's famous summation:

"Tweedledee and Tweedledum
Agreed to have a battle
For Tweedledum, said Tweedledee,
Had spoilt his nice new rattle."

Patriotism, patriotism, patriotism. Rattle, rattle, rattle.

Frum knows nothing of "American patriotism." You might as well ask a talking dog about "patriotism." (Actually, a talking dog would be far more interesting....) Look. Frum is a Canadian. His Mum was a national icon on TV there. And Canada is a country with almost no strong version of "nationalism." Hell, we only got our flag in 1967 or so, and a constitution 20 years later. We're politely called "the first post-modern nation."

So when you hear Frum, remember that you're listening to a guy who's had to ADOPT this stance. It just ain't there in the blood. To compensate (I hate this way of talking, but it's just to applicable)... he's one of those sad souls who becomes "tougher (and more patriotic) than thou" when he settles in his new country. Same story with Charles Krauthammer. Same dis-ease. Same with Conrad Black, who suddenly came down more British than the British when he checked into the Lords. (Not sure how that prison term is gonna work out vis a vis his nationalistic feelings.... but hey, he's always got his Nixon book.)

It happens. People move to a new country, and that first generation.... well.... their responses can sometimes be a bit over the top. A bit too "flag-wavey"..... a bit too "everything about this place is magical and must never be criticized."

And sadly for y'all Mr G., David Frum is pure hack - whereas Krauthammer can actually think. The only thing sadder is that some American political party picked this wiener up, and gave him a job of some import. Oh yeah. The Republicans. Writing speeches for the President. In a time of war. Where he hacked out patriot-puff-for-mental-and-moral-midgets like "Axis of evil." (Note: Canada did NOT support the War in Iraq.)

I'd apologize for Frum and say that Canadians are sorry he's on your side of the border now, but..... ummmm..... we're not. Don't get feeling all aggrieved though. You send us Fox News. Thanks for that, eh? Come to think of it, we may need to send you a few more Frum's, just to balance things up.

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Just in case you missed it, I thought you might find a point or two of interest in the translation of Jean-Claude Guillebaud's oped in Saturday's NYT; it's on '68, but in France, and the myths and revisionism that it has currently taken on there:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/24/opinion/24guillebaud.html
There's a lot of intriguingly related themes therein, though a totally different result.

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Thanks for the heads up.

From a distance, geographic and temporal, it's hard to see why the French think May 1968 is so significant. The polity was already trending left; just a couple of years before de Gaulle had needed a runoff against Mitterand. The strike and the student riots produced an overwhelming Gaullist party victory one month later in June.

Maybe it is nothing more than a generation's nostalgic view of its coming of age party -- a Woodstock en français.

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why the French think May 1968

The music changed then.

I was in Paris in July 69, and the juke boxes still had music in them that had disappeared from american juke boxes in the fifties, but rock and roll was infiltrating.

(you're up late.)

By May of 1968 the French had lost the war against the Nazies, Been treated by the Americans and British as a junior partner who should shut up and go away quietly in defeating the Nazis, lost Vietnam, lost Algeria, and had again brought in De Gaul and replaced the earlier Constitution one more time. De Gaul had only recently kicked the allied occupiers - especially the American troops - out of France. Particularly galling was the fact that the British and Americans treated the Germans with more respect than they did the French. And English had pretty much replaced French as the working language of diplomacy.

The events of May 1968 were about a lot more than just the arrival of Rock and Roll. America and Europe were all reacting to Rock and Roll. The French were finally coming to grips with the idea that they were no longer the preeminent nation in Europe and would never be so again.

Maybe because it was the collective movement of what would become the next generation of the national elite?

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There are three points in the article that especially intrigued me in this context:

The real legacy of May ’68, as we see in France today, is individualism, the rejection of civic sense and ideology
Here too?
ran alongside a powerful social movement involving a general strike, the occupation of factories and the participation of unions and leftist parties...The unions didn’t want them: the workers found the students disorganized and irresponsible.

The same elite student revolt v. working class thing happened here, much more stridently in my opinion, judging partly from my own experience. And Nixonland, Packer/Buchanan et. al. sees it as seminal and long lasting because of the creation of "the silent majority" thing from the reaction. As "Guest Observer" comments here about Guillebaud's piece, in France the 68-ers "would become the next generation of the national elite?," I see that suggested by Guillebaud too, in his statement that "the second explanation llies in the subsequent success of the leading figures of May 1968, notably in the press, advertising, film and politics." This happened here, too--but it became the ginned up hatred of "the Hollywood/media liberals" which partly comes out of Nixonian resentment of the elite being tied up with the counterculture youth. As Packer quotes Perlstein, 'During that time, Nixon figured out he could succeed politically 'by using the angers, axieties and resentments produced by the cultural chaos of the 1960's' which were also his own."

Sorry if I am a little inarticulate on this point, don't have the time to fully flesh my thoughts out better, just thought I'd throw them out there.

Today, we mention those foreign examples only in passing, without making them part of our collective memory. For us, May ’68 remains a French phenomenon.

Their 'patriotic values'are certainly different, but they have certainly not gone all non-tribal. The interesting thing--are they are overly embracing with patriotic pride that which still has to be downplayed here to be "patriotic'?

The 68:ers are most of all a good name for a generation, i.e. for a generation that came after my parents' but before mine, for a generation that was brought up after the war, during a record long economical high.

The events of 1968 was culturally one of many expressions on the same theme, from Rock'n'Roll and Beatles to women's lib to anti-imperialism activism to Flower-Power.

As the article points out, (almost) everyone from the post-war generation who became anything in France "did" 1968, and the simple reason for that is that France is a very centralized country. The top brains go to schools in Paris, and then they assume that anyone who's educated somewhere else must be substandard, and not worthy to play with the big boys and girls in the more prestigious positions. Beside that, the comparison with Woodstock seems to be a good one.

p.s.
Readers are warned against believing France equals Europe. It does not. Already the closest neighbor countries are much less centralized. But also there "the 68:ers" works as a label for a generation covering the same cultural and ideological currents. ...currents from which people like my parents and I were relatively shielded. They since they were busy with careers and kids, and I since I was busy in kindergarten.

Re: Frum goes on: "How many more elections can conservatives win by campaigning against Abbie Hoffman and Bobby Seale?

What fraction of the electorate even knows who those guys were, or has any direct connection to the 60s? The Democrats were in a similar situation some years ago when they continued to run agains Herbert Hoover and the Great Depression when those had faded out of publci memory too.

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Is Frum himself patriotic? And if so, how?

Frum can't be patriotic. He's Canadian.

He has to fake it to try to fit in with American Republicans, and he overdoes it. Being unaware of real American Patriotism, he keeps pushing to be even more Patriotic and thus, not understanding Patriotism, he doesn't know that he is going "over the top."

Being Canadian, he is neither American nor Patriotic. He is a poseur.

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Richard,

Frum is another faux patriot, a real chicken hawk, another good old boy who didn't bother serving his country, Canada or the USA, when he had the opportunity. And 'NO', you don't have to have had military experience to be patriotic, but if you don't have that kind of service and yet chomp at the bit to send others to war, well....you're a selfish, cowardly, chicken hawk.

Wasn't if Frum that gave us "The Axis of Evil"?

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Shorter Frum: "Merca! Loveiterleaveit!"

The patriotism most worth having is patriotism about what American can become, rather than about what it is.

The most worthwhile way to express that patriotism is to work towards that new America, not to wear lapel pins in order to express support for the current state of affairs.

Thanks, Todd, for pointing out that the America we want to live in has its roots in Paine, Lincoln, Jefferson, Dewey... all the greats.

None of the founders, nor the great leaders and thinkers who preceded and followed them ever expected that their adherents would simply be satisfied with the status quo.

...however, the 1972 campaign has worked less and less well.

Tell it to John "Swift Boat" Kerry. But I digress.

Just as the DLC inspired campaign of the mid-1980s hasn't worked out so well for Gore, Kerry, or Sen. Clinton. Times and the electorate change. Looking in the rear view mirror to predict the future, as Joe Klein put it, usually doesn't work out well.

And yet, there is no basis for predicting the future except the results of the past.

Until you develop a reliable model of the past interactions and can determine all the relevant variables, there is no effective way to predict the future. Mere history, a recitation of the facts in a sequence, is never such a model. It leaves out too many alternative possible paths because - in hind sight - they weren't taken.

Here a Frum, there a Frum, everywhere a Frum, Frum. I'm sorry, but I hate David Frum. Every time I hear him speak I think - what a waist of an education.

Frum and Douglas Feith are the two dimmest bulbs in the NeoCon movement. I do not quite understand why anyone gives these guys book deals, let alone reads what they write.

It seems like when you have been so broadly and deeply discredited (or being exposed as morally and intellectually bankrupt) you should at least have to spend a few years in exile. These guys have jumped right back into the fray older, but not wiser.

Who's listening to these hacks anyway?

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psmealy asks;

"Who's listening to these hacks anyway?"

Um, the mile wide, half inch deep Limbaugh/Hannity fans?

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David Frum is an unworthy object of Todd Gitlin's affection.

As for Patriotism, like religion, and some other things (like love of poetry) it ill becomes the sleeve or lapel.

"I must have been too busy excusing and condoning to address Frum's second charge, that the patriotism I advocate is "a patriotism without content and without qualities. In this again, he reminds me of Obama.""

I think you must miss what you and Obama do have in common-- you both obsessively *sell* your identities, and you even more than he, base most of your commentary around that product-- your own personal history and experience. You may have legitimate points and your patriotism may have "content," but you perhaps undermine all that with your own apparent narcissism.

Or at least, that's the way it seems to me.

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I read all the way through but Tank Hussein Ard had the take I have.

Frum is dangerous and misdirected. A fake intellectual in the same mold as the over-religious tele-preacher playing to a particular audience for donations. Respect for him? None.

He plays the intellectual card but he's intellectually dishonest.

'Nuff said.

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