Why Should White People Fight Racism?
One of things I really admired about Obama's speech was his attempt to demonstrate that racism is an issue all of us need to care about - including white folks. The jury is still out as to how successful he was, but it got me thinking about two questions: What role should white people play in ending racism? And how do we mobilize them to join the cause?
The blogosphere is full of lists that tell people what not to do when discussing race. See Sixteen Maneuvers to Avoid Really Dealing with Racism and How to Suppress Discussions of Racism, for example.
Side note: My personal favorite, not listed, is the "I can't be racist, my spouse is black/Hispanic/Asian!" defense. Because apparently interethnic/interracial sex is a magical elixir that cures racism. Just ask Lou "cotton-picking" Dobbs' Hispanic wife.
Don't get me wrong -- I enjoy the analyses in these lists and find myself chuckling in recognition at some of the rhetorical devices mentioned. But when I read lists like this, I wonder to myself what room there is to be white and anti-racist?
According to the Sixteen Maneuvers post, if you criticize others' racist words or actions, you fall into this trap:
The Good White Person (not like those obvious racists!)
“Whoa, that guy over there is SUCH a racist, unlike me… I know exactly the right things to say and I’m never racist. By which I mean overtly offensive about it. Hold on, I think I’m going to go spit on that guy. I hate him.”
If you ask people of color questions about racism, you shirk responsibility for your own education:
The Lean On You When I’m Not Strong
“Teach me, help me. I’m just a white person, so I need your wisdom as a person of color to show me how not to be racist. Wait, is what I said earlier racist? How about this shirt I’m wearing? Can you come with me to this party, so they know I’m not a racist?”
If you talk about the anti-racist work you do, you're asking for a cookie:
The Pause for Applause
“Unlike all those other white people out there, I’m an anti-racist.” (…) “I do anti-racist work and I try to educate other people about anti-racism.” (…) “Wait, did you hear me?”
I've even read criticisms of white anti-racist activist Tim Wise for receiving a disproportionate amount of media coverage compared to activists of color, just because he's white.
My point is not that we need to coddle white people and protect their precious feelings. Rather, it seems to me that the way things are set up now, there isn't much room for white people in an anti-racism movement unless they are willing to be in a constant state of self-flagellation, taking responsibility and apologizing for their white privilege and how it oppresses people of color.
While I know quite a few white people who are down for that, I'm not sure how enthusiastic the typical white person (oh snap I went there!) would be to take on that sort of role.
I wholeheartedly agree with Ta-Nehisi when he wrote: "At some point, this has to move beyond a 'do the right thing white people' discussion and become a 'this is for the good of America' discussion. We have to start convincing people that closing the racial gap helps everyone."
If we're going to get people on board with fighting racism, we need to appeal to their enlightened self-interest in some way. But how? If we define -- as many activists do -- racism as a system that benefits whites at the expense of people of color, then how do we convince those reaping the benefits to change the system?


I'd settle for just knowing when the jury will report back on Obama's speech. They've been deadlocked for a while now, but everyone who mentions it seems to think the jury is still out...
April 1, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this for real? Not a April Fools day joke? DF? Is this you? This chick actually used "snap" in a written sentence. I think I might have seen everything now.
Carmen, thats a pretty underwhelming effort thanks for stopping by.
April 1, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't be an ass Louisville. Say something substantive or keep your rudeness to yourself.
April 1, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
No way to say something substantial about this piece Andrew. Realize this is your baby but can you tell me any of that drivel added anything to a substantial "conversation" about race?
"My point is not that we need to coddle white people and protect their precious feelings. Rather, it seems to me that the way things are set up now, there isn't much room for white people in an anti-racism movement unless they are willing to be in a constant state of self-flagellation, taking responsibility and apologizing for their white privilege and how it oppresses people of color."
"While I know quite a few white people who are down for that, I'm not sure how enthusiastic the typical white person (oh snap I went there!) would be to take on that sort of role."
Nothing about those two paragraphs give you pause?
April 1, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ms. Van Kerckhove asks:
"What role should white people play in ending racism? "
Louisville, she is inviting discussion of an important topic that is not discussed nearly enough. That question alone makes her post worthwhile.
The two paragraphs you quote do not "give me pause." I agree with them, though I might have worded the ideas differently because I am a different person.
I believe, with James Baldwin, that white Americans will never really love themselves until they learn to love black Americans. I believe it's good for white Americans to try hard to learn what it's like to be a black American.
April 1, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
What makes you think White Americans don't Love Black Americans? I find that statement odd. I love Black Americans....All Americans..I love all People...I might disagree with someone but that doesn't mean I don't love them...which I think was Obamas' point with Wright. Right?
I simply found her condecension overwhelming.
April 1, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Louisville, I know a lot of white Americans who have a blanket dislike for black Americans.
The way I see it, most white people never try to understand what it's like to be black in the USA. A lot of white people think it's easier to be black than white, because of welfare and affirmative action--but this view ignores the basic human realities. Black people in the USA have felt exploited, despised, and rejected through many generations. They feel that way because they are in fact exploited, despised, and rejected almost every day and almost everywhere they go, from the time they're born until they die. This is a monstrously crushing burden.
I believe that once white people use their imaginations to gain some sense of that burden, then white people might naturally begin "self-flagellat(ing), taking responsibility and apologizing for their white privilege and how it oppresses people of color."
I do not blame all white people for creating and perpetuating that burden. But I do believe that the USA will be far healthier, happier, and more successful when all or most Americans are aware of the suffering of others.
April 1, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. It's a puff piece.
btw, one thing I'm taking out of this is pundits who specialize in race tend to lack other qualities, perhaps lack a deeper sense of identity, or other source of income.
i.e. I'm a mixed race person. It comes up sometimes. I'm glad overall and feel I've been lucky to escape a lot of racial boxes. I'm appreciative of the perspective it gives me sometimes. I like how I look. I like being multicultural. I like eating a different cuisine every night of the week. OK, swell.
But I don't make a career out of it.
That's the problem with pundits overall. They're in the advice business, but they're often the least capable or qualified people to be giving advice.
I'd be much more interested in the observations and opinions of a person who is successful in their chosen field, who happens to be multi-racial; rather than someone whose chosen field is being multi-racial.
April 2, 2008 3:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, people actually use "snap."
Probably people younger than you.
April 1, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah my kids all the time cscs...but can pretty much promise that if they were writing a serious article on race, they wouldn't use it.
April 1, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a blog. This isn't writing for an academic journal. It's a much less formal medium, and the blogosphere allows for all kinds of styles.
Even those who use snap.
I actually like that this post at least had some personality to it...
April 1, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok you win....
April 1, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, snap!
April 1, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Double snap!
April 1, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow.
I think this is the first time someone actually won an argument ever, in the history of the Internet.
Actually, though, I think you won.
April 1, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, you won. Stop being a Nazi troll Nazi with trolling!
April 1, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed...Runaway Jury?
April 1, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's speech has me asking myself what role black people should play in ending racism. Should they continue to embrace the role of traditional black politicians who use guilt as a weapon? Should they call on black people to stop viewing themselves as victims and take responsibility for the problems as well as the successes within the black community?
Obama seemed to me to be unable to move toward a new kind of politics when it comes to race relations in America. It did not help that he remained a loyal fan of Jeremiah Wright for so long, and denounced his own grandmother's racism, and later referred to her as "a typical white person". It did not help that his speech was in response to a political firestorm, even though he eventually said that he intended to deliver the speech all along. It did not help that his campaign has been using the race card since North Carolina. It did not help that his speech was mostly a history lesson rehashing white America's responsibility in creating the racial divide in today's America. It does not help that so many Obama supporters have stated or implied that a failure to vote for Obama amounts to racism.
I really would like to see a new dialog on race in this country. But so far it appears to me that Obama is going in the wrong direction in that regard.
April 1, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
It does not help that so many Obama supporters have stated or implied that a failure to vote for Obama amounts to racism.
I think most of your comment is simply a matter of how we all read what we want to read into things, but I'm calling bullshit on the above.
April 1, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Blacks receive less than standard medical treatment of a variety of life-thretning illnesses. This occurs even when income and insurance plans are equal. The solution oes not center around issues just in the African-American community.
Black pay more for equivalent housing and are driven to higher risk loans. Fair lending practices requires the paticipation of more than ust the Black citizenry.
Both of the above factors play a major role in the financial and health status of African-Americans The solutions require cooperation of all citizens in addressing biases.
Regarding intra-community action, everyone from Bill Cosby to Al Sharpton has talked about things that the community needs to do for itself.
Many Black individuals and organizations sponsor scholarships for youth aspiring to higher education. The adoption rate in the Black community increased three-fold after the Million Man March. The community is taking action.
There are judicial disparities that impact poor African-Americans who come into contact with the legal system. Equal times for equal crimes is not the way these individuals are treated in either the juvenile or adult criminal justice system. Prolonged prison sentences do not produce productive citizens.
Finally, regarding the educational system their is another problem. I came back from a recent Kiwanis meeting. The head of one state's Economic Development Council mentioned that their college system had produced 700 Physical Ed teachers over a given time span. Not one Physics teacher for the public school system had been produced in the same time period.
The education sytem is in a shambles for everyone.
Poor education effects everyone, not just African-Americans.
April 1, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agree to most of that of what you say there. One special issue which is also a powder keg of emotion is Child Support as it relates to Fathers that are Poor or just returning from Imprisonment. Hillary has tried to address this issue that is ultimately a State issue. It has reprecussions throughout society. Its not a panacea on the subject because there are Tons and Tons of Dead Beat Dads out there that try to abandon their children. Still trying to find a solution for those Dads that are really trying to take care of their children is important.
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April 1, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think we might return to a gem of wisdom about what most everyone can do about racism, that actually dates from the early 1950's, when Rodgers and Hammerstein's "South Pacific" had us all singing the following lyrics...
You've got to be taught
Before it's to Late
Before you are six, or seven or eight
To Hate all the people your relatives hate,
You've got to be carefully taught.
Most of us have at many times in our lives relationships with small children, perhaps six is a little too old to start, but let's say three, four and five year olds. (five didn't rhyme with late -- so the lyrics are a little off). There are a zillion ways of getting across the idea that it is wrong to hate by race, class, religion, gender and previous condition of servitude -- and today one must add sexual orientation -- whether it be by story telling, the books you read kids, the way you answer the questions, and yes, the discipline you apply when the kid comes home with language of hate. You teach when you show how you feel when another adult introduces hateful and discriminatory attitudes. If you let them stand without comment to a child, chances are they will assume you agree with them.
It doesn't matter whether you are White, Black, Asian, Arab, South Indian -- you can do this sort of teaching with young children without any special equipment, special training, special ideology -- everyone and anyone can do it. It won't solve all the problems -- there are shall we say, more advanced classes, but if those now teaching small children understood their responsibility as this important, and yes, this simple, the base could be laid for many of the more advanced things that need to be done.
April 1, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good reference with the South Pacific. My girlfriend just introduced me to that play a couple months ago, and I thought of that when Barack gave his speech. Mad props (to go with the "oh snap" discussion earlier, people certainly do talk like that).
April 1, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's very simple in the end. All people need to oppose racism. All people need to consider their own actions that may contribute to racism and change their behavior accordingly.
All people must do this because it is only decent to do so. Anyone who is religious and actually believes in their professed faith (regardless of what that faith happens to be)is bound to oppose racism. Anyone who is nonreligious and believes in ethical behavior, particularly in treating other human beings with dignity and respect must oppose racism.
If we must continue to see eachother as black and white, asian or whatever that means we are committing the gigantic error of missing the humanity of every person and we are keeping ourselves and all of human civilization from realizing our full potential.
I don't mean that we need to act like we cannot see physical differences or that we must act as though there are no cultural differences in the world, but we absolutely must see eachother first and foremost as human beings who are akin to eachother because we are actually all akin to eachother. DNA research is conclusively documenting that all of humanity has it's origins in common. We all spring from the same place. If we can achieve that ability to recognize the humanity of all and that every human is entitled to certain things like respect and equal treatment, we will have broken the back of racism once and for all. This will not be easily accomplished, but it can be accomplished and will be if enough of us insist on recognizing the humanity and thus, the worth of every individual.
It is in our actions toward eachother that we will know what kind of people we are and what kind we wish to be. There need be no talk of the kind written about in the post above for whatever psychological reasons. Just act. That is the most powerful thing any of us can do.
April 1, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm really amused by this piece, especially since I am very guilty of the sin of "asking if what I'm saying is okay," on these topics.
But, really, the role that white people have to play in fighting racism is to not be racist.
Which isn't as easy as it sounds because it also involves accepting some fair measure of collective responsibility for things that we as individuals never did or sanctioned.
I never owned a slave, I've never used the N word outside of its proper rap context, I've never killed a Native American and I've never attacked somebody for being gay or sexually harassed a woman at work. Never, not once, would never happen, not me. But still. Problems between and amongst groups of people can only be solved between and amongst groups of people. That means that some individuals are just going to get caught in the crossfire. We should minimize that, but it can't be eliminated.
If an individual demonstrates to me that they didn't get a job or scholarship that they deserved because of affirmative action policies I really would sympathize with them. But I wouldn't oppose affirmative action over it.
Does that make any sense? (That question is rhetorical if you're white and is meant only for the wisened minorities, especially our noble Native American brethren).
April 1, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
It makes sense.
By the way, I believe there is also a proper comedic context for the word "nigger," such as when repeating Chris Rock routines.
April 1, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...wisened minorities, especially our noble Native American brethren)."
Here's "noble" for you, destor. Two friends of mine, one Seminole and one Ponca, had to disguise themselves as preachers to get into McCallester Prison to visit a third friend, a Creek. They found preacher outfits ok, but they couldn't find a Bible. So the Seminole just grabbed his hardback copy of "Das Kapital" and tucked it under his arm. The guards at Big Mac waived them right through, no questions asked.
Is that "noble" or what?
April 1, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone who suggests that Carmen wasn't saying something substantive didn't read her post, or is blinded by their emotional reaction to it.
She's saying something important, which is that racism affects white people too, particularly in the way they see themselves. Black people aren't the only ones who internalize racism.
It's much safer for white folks to pretend they don't have a dog in this fight, beyond "fighting racism" on behalf of black people. The scary part is that many people don't realize how deeply race and racism are ingrained into our own personalities, and affects everything from how we talk, behave, and act to the food we eat or music we listen to.
More importantly, we rarely acknowledge how we use them to define ourselves, especially in relation to those we consider "different."
April 1, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy; I know exactly what you mean, and I want you to know that to show my good faith I've sworn off standing rib roast and Yorkshire pudding.
April 1, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thats going a lil far....
April 1, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm with dnA, I think racism is a very serious issue for white people, not only for the victims.
In any abusive relationship, the abuser can pretend to be completely sane. I guess the question is, what good does pretending do? And is there an alternative?
April 1, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree racism is an serious issue for white people and they've deeply internalized it, sometimes unpleasantly. But I don't agree Van Kerckhove has raised these issues substantively. If she wants to, and can, she should.
April 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry I thought it was fluff....Needed to be on AOL not here. Just MO.
April 1, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is the last person in America who should be telling us to do something about racism because he sat there and listened, with his kids, to the racist and anti-America rants of Rev. Wright for 20 years and DID NOTHING.
April 1, 2008 11:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am sorry to say I disagree with you.
I see nothing whatsoever in Rev. Wright's publicized remarks that could be construed as racist. Not one word.
He condems racism and he places the blame for it on white people. Nothing wrong with that at all because it is the truth. The truth is not racist, but it is difficult for many white people to listen to.
April 2, 2008 12:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Almost forgot to add that he also said nothing Anti-American. He criticized America and with perfectly good justification. Rev. Wright served his country in the armed forces when he was called and has thus earned the right to speak as he pleases. In point of fact, it is out of love for his country that Rev. Wright makes the criticism's he makes. No, in my opinion, he has said nothing that is anti-American at all.
April 2, 2008 12:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
As a white person who is involved in the anti-racist movement, I also find it hard to motivate other white peo