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A Stock Transfer Tax: The Right Medicine for Wall Street

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Bears Stearns, the Wall Street investment banking giant, is now on life support, being kept alive only by infusions of tens of billions of taxpayer dollars courtesy of the Federal Reserve Board. In the months ahead, it is virtually certain that more of the Wall Street big boys will be pushed to the edge, victims of excessive greed and really bad judgment.

Until about six months ago, Wall Street was at the center of the world-wide neo-liberal push to eliminate government regulation and allow the market to operate unfettered. (This was always more hype than reality as I show in The Conservative Nanny State: How the Wealthy Use the Government to Stay Rich and Get Richer [free download available].)

Things are different today. With the banks on the edge of collapse, the bankers are demanding the sort of government help they would deny to working mothers trying to provide their kids with health care, child care, and decent housing and education. Of course the situation is very different. The working mothers are looking for chump change, the Wall Street boys want real money.

While the bankers are claiming to have hostages – they say the financial system and the whole economy will be brought to its knees if we don’t meet their demands – they are not telling the truth. We absolutely have an interest in keeping the banks operating in an orderly manner. This can be done without bailouts.

England gave us the model last month when the government took over Northern Rock, a major bank that managed to get itself in serious trouble with bad bets in the mortgage market. The government replaced the top management and put in new people who set about getting its books in order. Once they have this done, the bank will be resold to the private sector.

Northern Rock is still in business. Depositors can get to their money and the bank sill conducts its normal business. There have been no runs in England due to this takeover.

The difference between what happened with Bears Stearns and what happened at Northern Rock is that the managers at Bears Stearns who bankrupted the bank are still calling the shots and collecting their multi-million dollar salaries. The stockholders also have about $4 billion in wealth in a bank that would otherwise be insolvent, if not for the courtesy of the cash infusion from U.S. taxpayers.

Northern Rock gives us the model for getting through this financial crisis. We want to keep the banks operating, but we have absolutely zero interest in giving taxpayer dollars to some of the richest people in the country, who apparently weren’t smart enough to handle their own affairs. No nanny state for the rich boys.

In fact, we should look to borrow another policy from the United Kingdom that can help set our financial markets in order. The U.K. imposes a modest stock transfer tax of 0.25 percent on every purchase or sale of a share of stock. This sort of tax would make almost no difference to a typical middle class shareholder. However, a tax of this size, with comparable taxes on various other financial instruments, like options and futures, would put a serious crimp in the money shuffling business that has wrecked so much havoc on the U.S. economy.

Furthermore, such a tax could raise a great deal of money, easily in the neighborhood of 1.0 percent of GDP or $150 billion a year. Imagine that we could finance national health care insurance with a financial transactions tax, or provide quality child care and pres-school education, or build up a green 21st century infrastructure, or maybe just have a nice middle class tax cut of $1,000 per family.

There is no shortage of good uses for the money that could be raised through a financial transactions tax. This is the conversation that the country should be having. Instead of funneling tens or hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to the failed wizards of Wall Street, we should be talking about what they can do for us.


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Or investing in infrastructure, which would have the added benefit of creating jobs.

Great post, Mr. Baker.

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'Free marketers, free traders, Wall Street Sharks, Corporate executives' are all one group of people that can be accurately described as those that support unbridled capitalism.

Reagan (get government out of the way)set them loose on the country and we've been paying ever since. The Leveraged Buyout gang of the 80s, the S & L gang, the ENRON boys, the sub prime sharks, and the $100/200 million annual compensation and or retirement packages for CEOs who head money losing corporations, such as CitiGroup, Merril Lynch, and Countrywide.

Mister Baker's suggestion that we do what they did in GB won't work because then the Sharks might lose something, and we can't have that in this wonderful Capitalism system.

Oh, did I mention the 15% tax rate paid by Hedge Fund Managers that earn $75/200 million per year
while Joe Lunch Bucket and his $40K per year pays 28%?

Another scandal by the sharks, another bail out by the taxpayer

Until people start going to jail, I say this, Everything changes but nothing ever changes.

A stock transfer tax is a typical tax socialists like to impose. This is a regressive tax and it penalizes common man for buying and selling stocks. This has nothing to do with greedy bankers failing. Bear Stearns illiquidity has been known from day one the sub-prime story broke. Instead of bailing it out, it should have been bought out by one of more liquid banks.

Saving companies by government action never works. The British taxpayers are angry with their Government for using their money to buy Northern Rock, adecision that will ultimately cost the tax payer dearly.

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Given that brokers impose a transaction tax, known as a commission, we can't call that unfair. It is absolutely not regressive, since large traders, like various funds (hedge, pension), do many transactions in short periods, chasing small margins. Small investors tend to not do this, but buy stock and hold it.

A transaction tax would have its main effect on large traders, not small.

That said, I am not sure I like bailing out Bear, Stearns. I know a loan is not a gift, but when no commercial source will loan the money, a government loan becomes a gift by violating sound lending practice.

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I see no evidence that Bear, Stearns is being "bailed out." Rather, it looks like Bear, Stearns' customers -- wealthy hedge funds in the Dry Tortugas and Greenwich, Connecticut being among those customers -- are the ones being bailed out.

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Agree.

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Tom Wright says:

"That said, I am not sure I like bailing out Bear, Stearns."

When the Government bails out a Bear Sterns it simply enables Wall Street bad actors to continue operating in an irresponsible way.

Where is the down side for bad actors in this sub prime scandal?

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ajazhaque says:

"A stock transfer tax is a typical tax socialists like to impose. This is a regressive tax and it penalizes common man for buying and selling stocks."

Your concern about "the common man" is noted, and very admirable, I must say.

Now about 'the uncommon man', those 'capitalistic elite', the 5% of the wealthiest of Americans, will they be penalized too?


So what if they are? What if they aren't? Does that matter to you? Do you WANT to see the rich 'punished' by government? Is that the proper role of government? How is that anything other than sheer class envy?

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Given that wealth is only defined by, protected by, and regulated by the existing government, sure, I think government can ask for some back.

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jeffchem,

that you see the rich being "punished' because they get taxed more than many others is all I need to know about your mindset.

The tax suggested is flat, not regressive. A regressive tax decreases when more money is involved. For instance, FICA is a regressive tax because income above about $100k/yr is not subject to FICA (the exact number varies, increasing each year).

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Quite frankly, ajazhaque, I find it strange that you would oppose establishing a sales tax on the buying and selling of stocks and bonds in the markets. Do you oppose sales taxes on the purchase of other goods by the common man. How about excise taxes? Those get paid by the common man too. Those 98% of the population which own something like 2% of the stocks traded.

Sorry, a stock transfer tax is just what the fiscal doctor ordered. Trading stocks in the markets is nothing more than speculation. It is not investment. Investment occurs when money is given to a firm or enterprise in exchange for control of the firm. That does not happen when stocks are traded on the markets. It differs not one whit from somebody buying or selling toothpaste, automobiles or clothing.

The time has come to squelch this false meme that trading stocks in investing. Slap a stock transfer tax on the trading of stocks and make this industry toe the line like any other. These pirates and freebooters on Wall Street have had enough of free ride.

It is possible for individuals to invest, rather than speculate. A lot depends on a lot of niggling details. However, consider a company like ACAS, which must issue new shares from time to time (the reasons are important but beyond the scope of this comment). In this case, if enough individuals have, in aggregate, created enough demand for the stock, the higher stock price results in greater proceeds for ACAS, which in turn will—provided Wilkus and co do their jobs—result in small businesses expanding, creating more good jobs for more people who do "real work" and create actual goods or services of real value, etc.

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ct says:

"the higher stock price results in greater proceeds for ACAS, which in turn will—provided Wilkus and co do their jobs—result in small businesses expanding, creating more good jobs for more people who do "real work" and create actual goods or services of real value, etc."

ct, this is not a rebuttal of your post which has merit, its just another look at "investment".

I hear this one sided story of small businesses investing to create jobs all the time, but isn't it also true that these same business can invest, not to create jobs, but to eliminate them by investing in machinery/robots etc., that replace workers? Five workers in a factory manufacturing robots etc., may be responsible for the loss of 1,000 jobs elsewhere.

I once saw a documentary on the logging industry. It showed a man driving a maching with a few mechanical arms. One arm reached out and grabbed the tree trunk. Another arm sawed the tree off at the base. Another arm stripped the branches. Then the driver drove, what was now a log, down to a collection area.

On another hand, perhaps small business may use the money to invest in an overseas plant?

According to the SBA, with a few exceptions, small businesses are defined as a business with less than 500 employees.

Yes, investment in automation reduces job numbers (when it works, as it certainly did with logging). With any luck (or good policy) it increases job value and pay, so that the remaining workers come out ahead. The theory goes that those who are now out of work will move into some other "higher value", higher-paying jobs that open up as a consequence of all this "added value". In practice, some do and some don't. If you study the logging example, and many others, you will find that the increased value goes mostly to those we might label "the rich". For instance, in the case of Pacific Lumber (post-Maxxam), the additional value went mostly to Charles Hurwitz.

There is some fun theoretical argumentation between the Marx-type view of "surplus value" and the Austrian economics, but one need not worry about all that when working with specific examples like this.

In New York, between 1970 and 1981, there was a stock transfer tax. Each year it brought in $300 million to the city. The common man benefited a great deal from it, especially teachers and nurses, municipal workers and so on. Salaries were much higher back then. For example, I'm a professor at the City University of New York and my salary, when adjusted for inflation, is around 30 percent less than the average salary of my senior colleagues who started in the 1970s. Important to note also is that when NY dropped the stock transfer tax back in 1981, Wall Street became an anomaly in the world. From Hong Kong to Germany, every nation with an exchange has a stock transfer tax, and these are not socialist places. They're rational ones. If the old stock transfer tax on Wall Street were re-instated, it would raise $11 billion per year. Opposition to the stock transfer tax is pure irrationalism, a naked attack on reason, having nothing to do with ideology. Tellingly, many rich people in NYC have been arguing lately for a re-instatement of the stock transfer tax, because of the budget crisis in NYC, the rising costs of healthcare, education, transportation, maintenance of the parks system, and so on. It's always the wannabe types, those whose biggest dream is to one day be a hedge fund manager themselves, that come out against it. Check them against the petty bourgeois types who backed Hitler in the 1930s and you'll find few differences.

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Bears Stearns, the Wall Street investment banking giant, is now on life support, being kept alive only by infusions of tens of billions of taxpayer dollars courtesy of the Federal Reserve Board. Dean Baker

The size and terms of the credit line were not disclosed. JPMorgan will borrow the money from the Fed and lend it to Bear Stearns, and the Fed will ultimately bear the risk of the loan. NYT 3/15/2008

It seems to me that we have little idea of how much "money" -- and Dean himself never trusts a New York Times reporter to accurately describe the components of any business transaction -- is at risk or the extent of that risk. In fact we don't even know whether the Fed is trying to save Bear Stearns or rather, trying to save its customers, that is, other banks, investment houses, and hedge funds to whom Bear Stearns owes money.

What we should be demanding is an explanation from the Fed of why it thinks it is unable to state the terms of the bailout. We're supposed to be living in a democracy, after all, and deserve to be informed of what our rulers are doing on our behalf.

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Additionally, we should be asking why the Fed -- and more importantly, the media -- has continued to characterize Bear, Stearns as a bank. It isn't; it's a hedge fund.

Dr. Baker,
Firat off, the "bailout" of Bear Stearns is not a gift of taxpayer money. It is a loan. Loans must be repaid. Whomever buys out Bear Stearns will also be held responsible for this loan. I too have my doubts that this loan was a good idea, but at least it was not a direct transfer of cash.

Second, you engage in this Marxist fantasy that "bankers" = "ideological conservatives", that bankers are these greedy "Wall Street boys" who want to deliberately make it hard on single moms. I don't know why any business worth its salt would want to be run by ideological conservatism, since our government is so large and it is so easy to engage in rent-seeking behavior by sucking at the government teat along with everybody else. Furthermore, part of the reason Bear Stearns is in this mess is BECAUSE it has offered loans and financing to single moms, among others - i.e., individuals and groups who tend to have higher risk portfolios than your typical suburban DINK couple. It's all a part of this subprime mess.

Third, your stock transaction tax is, simply put, a ridiculous idea. Your stated intention for wanting to impose it is to punish the "Wall Street boys" and to transfer their wealth to government, which presumably would use it to finance health care (but not to start wars against sovereign nations - government would NEVER do that!). You say it would have a negligible impact on your typical middle-class shareholder - on what basis do you make this claim? What do you think is in the retirement portfolio of your typical middle-class guy? I'll give you a hint: mutual funds composed of stocks. And every time any mutual fund manager (i.e., one of the rich "Wall Street boys" that you want to punish) buys or sells stocks for mutual funds included in retirement portfolios for your typical middle-class worker bee, the costs would go up. And who would pay the cost? That's right, we would, in the form of service charges on our mutual funds. So don't tell me that this tax will only punish the rich. Like all taxes similarly constructed, they will end up hurting everyone much more than they will end up doing what you say they will.

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Before one dismisses Baker's idea (or promotes it) one should determine what portion of average daily volume is comprised of long-term investments (pension funds and mutual funds) -- Good? -- and what portion is comprised of arbitrage transactions -- Bad?.

I don't think one should label arbitrage as "bad", or even long-term investment as "good" (one can make bad long-term investments, such as putting a lot of money into a new yet conventional coal-burning power plant for instance). But it is the case that a whole lot of market volume is very-short-term. Those who actually run these markets want more volume (because they make their money off volume) and would object strenuously to a stock transfer tax. They would use that old standby, of threatening to take their wealth elsewhere. As the fictional "George Parr" put it, "that is not an idle threat: we can always go wreck someone else's economy".

Ellen,
With all due respect - why? The only reason to go to the numbers is if you think the idea has merit in the first place. I don't think a tax motivated by class envy, with a desire to punish "Wall Street boys" (and what are their crimes, exactly?) should even be contemplated.

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Fed Bailout = Socialism. I was really struck by this when someone pointed this out yesterday.

Excellent writing. I wish you were on CSPAN this morning explaining this problem - rather than the AEI guy who insisted that we must bailout Bear Stearns and we must Not over-regulate.

None of these Banks and Investment Firms are taking any responsibility about how stupid they were to invest in risky mortgage investments.

Why not bailout with some of that compensation that they lying Alan Schwartz received $35,734,422 in salary & bonus, and $52,907,900 in stock options for 2007 alone. Those amounts would provide a lot of Unemployment relief for us taxpayers.

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ally,

as usual, the 'I hate big government programs" crowd has their hand out looking for a big government (social?) program.

Some things never change.

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Well, the .25% stock transfer tax is a start but it it seems poorly targeted. What one wants is a general tax on CDO, mortgage, and especially derivative transactions. Isn't Bear Stearns a bond and mortgage specialist whose collapse is wholly caused by bond and mortgage imprudence?

This sales tax would be a good prophylactic measure, but regulation is also needed. Bear Stearns, Carlyle Capital Corporation, and LTCM failed because they were excessively leveraged. Commercial banks have capital requirements. Should hedge funds and investment banks be exempt?

I am not sure a transfer tax is a great idea (not saying it is a bad idea either). I like to look at these things from an engineering point of view: the mechanism works best when there is a minimal, but nonzero, amount of friction, as it were. One wants money, which ideally simply measures resources, to flow freely towards the best use of resources.

What I would like to see, but have no idea how to structure, is not so much this kind of transfer tax as, instead, a general "wealth tax" on resources in general. We have one on real-estate, in the form of real estate taxes, that keeps a modest amount of pressure on everyone (rich and poor alike) to use the real estate in a productive manner. (One fly in the ointment lies in determining "productive".) We do not, however, have one on stock, bond, etc., assets, except for the general erosive power of inflation. And in any case these taxes tend to be flat (inflation and R.E. taxes are both linear).

It might be interesting to have a geometrically progressive "wealth tax", in which if any entity's net worth is (say) $1 million, the tax rate is (say) about .1% ($1k/yr), but it goes up more than linearly, so that at $10M, it is (say) 1% or $100k/yr, and at $100M, it hits 10% or $10M/yr. Of course that means anyone or anything worth $1B is at 100%, and all the multi-billionaires are over 100%, so maybe this needs some tuning. :-)

The largest problem with the loans to bailout Bear Stearns is that they do not penalize the failure of the managers and owners of that company in the way that the free market is supposed to do. They are a bankrupt company and need to be treated as such. Why aren't they?

Obviously, fear of the consequences to the overall financial system - the "hostages" Dean speaks of. Dean is completely correct that the British takeover of Blackstone is the correct model. Replace the failed management and maintain the banking function while removing the worthless ownership shares from the market by transferring ownership to the government.

There is no doubt that Bear Stearns in bankrupt. The ownership in Bear Stearns is worthless. So any bailout of the owners is a government bailout of economic failure, something no stockholder has any right to. But other elements of the financial system depend on functions currently being performed by Bear Stearns. A government takeover would protect those outsiders from the failure of Bear Stearns' managers and owners.

Seems like good capitalism to me.

As for the stock transfer tax, that would make a lot of very large arbitrage transactions for extremely small profits unprofitable, and remove the incentive to simply make large transactions to churn the product for fees. It would have no real effect on better thought-out transactions done less frequently. The major result would be more stability in the financial markets. The real cost would be the salary of a few programmers who had to add the additional (minuscule) cost to their models alongside the brokerage fees to determine profitability of an arbitrage trade. Economically significant trades would not be effected at all. And since the financial trading institutions have a major stake in the social and financial stability that is the first and most important product of any effective government, they should be happy to fund government operations even at such a small degree. Without government providing stability and oversight, there would be no financial markets.

The downside? It violates the (unrealistic) free marketer's ideology.

Seems like an outstanding proposal to me.

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As for the stock transfer tax, that would make a lot of very large arbitrage transactions for extremely small profits unprofitable . . . .

The big profits are not -- as someone earlier suggested -- dependent upon volume but rather, upon volatility.

If we wish to reduce volatility and if "arbitrage transactions" have the effect of reducing volatility, then, we might not wish to impair that function by making such transactions more expensive and less likely to take place.

The big profits are not -- as someone earlier suggested -- dependent upon volume but rather, upon volatility.

Whose profits, and how big?

One needs to look at this from the point of view of each player. I was referring to those who run the markets themselves: the clearinghouses and brokers, i.e., middlemen, not the people buying and selling individual shares.

Volatility increases the amount of trades they get to broker, i.e., increases volume for them. So they do like volatility, but only because of its implications ... and they would object to anything that increases the "friction losses" in trading because that would decrease overall volume. (Well, they don't mind participants' losses that go into their own pockets, of course. But these transfer taxes would go to someone else's.)

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Richardxx says:

"The largest problem with the loans to bailout Bear Stearns is that they do not penalize the failure of the managers and owners of that company in the way that the free market is supposed to do."

Exactly, there seems to be no downside if you act irresponsibly, greedily, or you're simply incompetent.

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Like Richardxx said, a financial transactions tax will not discourage any transactions where much gain could come, because it is small, and it would still be profitable to do them.

It is also hugely progressive. Ownership of stock is still hugely concentrated among the wealthy (that doesn't mean middle class people don't own any, just that they don't own very much). The big traders are also overwhelmingly wealthy.

Middle class people can get themselves into funds that are big traders, but they have the option not to. Unless they feel like throwing money in the toilet, they can get into funds that don't trade heavily.

Finally, a properly scaled transaction tax would discourage a lot of the CDOs, CMOs, and other exotic instruments that involved layering of debt upon debt. While the tax on the sale of an individual bond might be minuscule, when it is layered into several separate transactions, the tax could large enough to discourage too much game-playing. This is exactly what we would want.

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Dean Baker,

as the supply siders would say;

'we have the largest percentage of the public in the market ever, so we shouldnt tax these investors.'

They are absolutely correct, me and Dick Cheney
are in the market as investors, me with my 3 shares of Haliburton and Cheney with his 60,000 shares of Halliburton.

Tom Wright

The commission brokers charge is not a tax but a fee for performing a service - that is how they make a living. I being one of them cannot call it a tax.

Ellen
I agree the 'bailout' of Bear Stearns is to protect the wealthy ultimately. But I feel if the bank made mistakes then it should face the consequences, it is the survival of the fittest that drives western economies and now Chinese, Indian & Russian economies too. The bank or hedge fund as some called it (which incidentally it is not) should be bought out by a liquid bank.


Johnw1141 & ct
You are quite right regressive is aterm used to define a declining rate. My inference was that such taxes result in the conomies of countries declining as socialistic ideas sound good but never work. Look at nationalization of industries in Westen Europe after WWII and the subsequent success of privatization.


Finally Dean
You have started an excellent debate, so congratulations even though I disagree with you on stock transfer tax. This penalises investors who don't always make a profit. What happens when they lose money on their stocks and then you charge them a tax on top of it, that will make many investors unhappy and possibly turn them off from investing.

The solution to chaos created by financial world through greed with investment in sub-prime instruments is that perhaps their ratings should be readjusted based on their investment portfolios so the investors know if they are dealing with an aggressive risk taker or a conservative banker.

I think you are confusing arbitrage operations with investing. Arbitrage is inherently very short term with the only relevant information being market information. It is also very large scale, something no one without multimillions of dollars can conduct.

Investing is very different, and ideally will be based on the fundamentals of the financial instruments rather than on market "froth".

The market as it is currently structured is rewarding arbitrage rather than investing, as the loss of data regarding the risk involved in mortgages as they got bundled and sold in larger and larger chunks clearly demonstrates.

A minuscule transaction tax as Dean describes would have no effect on the investment functions the market facilitates, but it would limit the purposeless stacking of ownership and churning of such financial instruments with their accompanying loss of fundamental data as they are sold to "investors."

Arbitrage is a game bankers and billionaires play among themselves, and beyond a certain limit has no real value to the economy overall. After that point the risks being taken and concealed from buyers by creating new financial instruments out of others put the entire set of financial markets and the economy as a whole in danger. The current credit market meltdown demonstrates this quite clearly.

Anything that focuses the financial markets back on facilitating true investment will be a good thing. Dean's proposed transaction tax appears to be a good way to do that, and also provides revenue to the government in exchange for the services that government provides to facilitate the very existence and functioning of market institutions and market regulation. The very reliability and accuracy of the data used to operate the financial markets is assured by government laws. The idea that financial markets can exist without government regulation and the enforcement of contracts is a fiction created by the fact that government performs its infrastructure role so effectively that it is generally invisible.

The bailout of Bear Stearns is just another example that the markets work in conjunction with government, not outside of it as the free traders imagine. The efforts to remove government from the markets are what have brought the current credit crisis to its present state. Without a rational reinsertion of government back into the markets there is no excuse for government bailouts.

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Taxes (fees) are also a means to a living for the country, which is represented by the government. Hamilton argued for custom as a revenue source. Since the government is as essential as clean water for a business environment (compare to doing business in Afghanistan) it must have revenue. We only argue about where that comes from.

I have no worry that suppressing rapid transaction activity will make us poorer. It bears very little on manufacture, or energy, or food, or any of the basics of civilization. It generates some wealth, of the kind that evaporates instantly in a confidence crisis.

I do think a better placed tax, that would yield good revenue and lean on the right sector, would be to increase capital gains and dividend taxes, to make those routes to wealth more like ordinary income. This would lead to a return to emphasis on reliable income rather than rapid increase in market valuation. It would make huge CEO compensation packages less attractive, which is good PR, if not hugely important to the bottom line. CEO compensation is important to labor relations, which is important to actual income and profitability.

So I agree that a transaction tax is kind of trivial, and misses the main target, to whatever extent a target is needed (which I think is to a large extent). Financial instruments are useful, but depend on a basis in reality. Too much love of the securities dance and we forget they represent value, real property, income streams, etc. We begin to think they are value---they are not, they are only derivatives of it.

I have a comment or two on dividend and capital-gains taxes here. Bill Buckley used to argue for indexing CGs against inflation, and there is good reason for doing so: for instance, if I buy 100 shares of XYZ in 1958 for $10 each ($1k), and sell those 100 shares of XYZ in 2008 for $100 each ($10k), I have not really come out ahead. Sure, I have $9000 more than I had in 1960, but in 1958, $1000 bought a heck of a lot more than it does in 2008.

The problem with indexing CGs is that it would basically be a Full Employment Act for accountants. :-) (Well, these days one could have an IRS web site calculate the inflation-adjusted cost basis of a stock held for many years. It still gets tricky though, what with companies buying other companies over time. For instance, I own shares of T—AT&T corp—but that's not the T one could buy 30 years ago.)

Another thing that I think is better today is that dividends and CGs are (mostly) not treated differently. It used to be the case that dividends were taxed like ordinary income, but CGs were taxed more lightly. This created incentives for large holders to push for dividends to be "converted" into CGs, principally by buying back already-overvalued stock. Bad for shareholders in the long term, but good for anyone who had a lot of shares they wanted to sell soon.

Anyway, there are some ideas to chew on...

Re: The U.K. imposes a modest stock transfer tax of 0.25 percent on every purchase or sale of a share of stock.

Agree, this is something we should debate. However I don't see it as any sort of remedy for the problems that have rocked Wall Street. The UK, as you point out, does have such a tax, and it has not prevented similar tumult and turmoil on Cannery Row.

Re: ... that bankers are these greedy "Wall Street boys" who want to deliberately make it hard on single moms. I don't know why any business worth its salt would want to be run by ideological conservatism, since our government is so large and it is so easy to engage in rent-seeking behavior by sucking at the government teat along with everybody else. Furthermore, part of the reason Bear Stearns is in this mess is BECAUSE it has offered loans and financing to single moms, among others - i.e., individuals and groups who tend to have higher risk portfolios than your typical suburban DINK couple.

I would also suggest looking at these banks' employment policies. I work for one of these companies (not Bear), more or less as a back office peon, but the pay and benefits and workplace policies are everything progressives would want to see enacted generally: high wages, strict non-discrmination policies (though yes, sometimes this degenerates into PC silliness), four weeks paid vacation to start, same sex partnerships treated as equal with marriages insofar as this is possible under our tax laws, generous sick and bereavement leave, excellent health coverage progressively structured (the more you make the more you pay for it). This is not the behavior of a Simon LeGree or a pre-Christmas Scrooge. Give good credit where it's due.

Re: This sales tax would be a good prophylactic measure, but regulation is also needed.

Absolutely! I would caution against half-considered measures motivated by panic, bu ti do thin kwe need to start examining what has gone wrong in minute detail and devise measures to prevent a recurrence.

Re: Dean is completely correct that the British takeover of Blackstone is the correct model. Replace the failed management and maintain the banking function while removing the worthless ownership

Um, do you want to see the Bush administration running an investment bank? I'd rather they scooped up some stray vagarnt off the streets of NYC and put him or her in charge. We might get better results.

Re: Look at nationalization of industries in Westen Europe after WWII and the subsequent success of privatization.

Taxing something is not the same as nationalizing it. Good grief! I just paid my yearly license plate and registration fee on my car. But guess what, I still own it.

Hmm...I'm sensing from you and many of the other respondents here that it's not enough that Bear Stearns is bankrupt; you all want the leadership to be held personally responsible for the bank's demise. What exactly do you have in mind, I hesitate to ask...strip them of their assets? Throw them into debtor's prison? Hard labor? Tarred and feathered? May I remind you that the whole reason for having corporations in the first place is so individuals don't have to risk their personal assets in a business enterprise. So when you say you want "personal accountability" from a corporation, you are really arguing against the entire economic rationale for corporations. Of course criminal behavior is a different story, but I don't think anyone is alleging that any crime has been committed here.

Also, after some further reading, I realized that this story is actually much more complex than what Dr. Baker is leading on. To wit:
1. The Fed loaned money to Bear Stearns, but the money was simply created. It isn't tax money. It's an increase in the total money supply. It was also approved by a unanimous vote of the Fed's Board of Governors. (This is regulatory-state democracy for you.)
2. The loan is due in only 28 days. Obviously Bear Stearns is not going to turn it around in 28 days. Thus this loan really is just about giving the market time for an orderly sale of Bear Stearns to (probably) J.P.Morgan Chase.
3. The Fed's collateral standards are very high, as one might expect. So it is unlikely that the undisclosed collateral for the Fed's loan was anything but high-grade securities. Thus, in the unlikely event that a sale is not completed in 28 days and Bear Stearns defaults, the Fed will get paid back.

you all want the leadership to be held personally responsible for the bank's demise.
Apparently you do not want them held accountable for the failure of Bear Stearns.

They were the managers who ran the company into the ground - or who failed to prevent outside events from bankrupting the company. Apparently you want them to remain in their jobs and continue to get the pay checks they have not earned.

The normal penalty in business for failure to do your job is being fired. Why are they exempt?

Oh, wait. That's right. They are rich and not subject to the rules the rest of us live by. They are somehow special. Such people pay no penalty for failure, do they?

Or is there some other reason they should keep their jobs? Experience? Experience as a failure is not an adequate answer.

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What "collateral," disclosed or undisclosed, did the Fed take? According to the New York Times the Fed has no contractual relationship with Bear, Stearns and JP Morgan, the borrower, has no duty to pay back the loan the Fed made to it.

Am I misreading the chicken's entrails?

My understanding (which is not necessarily correct) is that JPM gave AAA-rated debt to the Fed to hold for 28 days, and in turn the Fed gave JPM cash, which JPM lent in turn to BS. When the 28 day period expires, JPM must hand cash back to the Fed and take back the AAA-rated debt, or—more likely—renew the borrowing by paying some interest rate on the cash, letting the Fed hang on to the debt and JPM hang on to the cash.

What we don't know is the interest rate (is it the same as the discount rate?), the composition of the debt that the Feds now hold, and who exactly rated it AAA.

The law, cited in my previous post, says that the interest rate for these emergency loans must be higher than the discount rate.

Ah ... I followed some of the links and it sounds as though the "emergency loan" rate must be exactly the same as the target Fed Funds rate (currently 3.00%).

Ct,
My reference is this section, 201.4(d) (note the last sentence):

"(d) Emergency credit for others. In unusual and exigent circumstances and after consultation with the Board of Governors, a Federal Reserve Bank may extend credit to an individual, partnership, or corporation that is not a depository institution if, in the judgment of the Federal Reserve Bank, credit is not available from other sources and failure to obtain such credit would adversely affect the economy. If the collateral used to secure emergency credit consists of assets other than obligations of, or fully guaranteed as to principal and interest by, the United States or an agency thereof, credit must be in the form of a discount and five or more members of the Board of Governors must affirmatively vote to authorize the discount prior to the extension of credit. Emergency credit will be extended at a rate above the highest rate in effect for advances to depository institutions."

Hi Ellen,
The law itself provides that the Federal Reserve may only accept high-quality collateral for loans that it gives. It defines "high-quality" as obviously including any security backed by the government (e.g. bonds), but also only high-quality mortgages, so subprime mortgages are ineligible. The regulations are here. This Bloomberg article states that the collateral used for this loan is indeed Bear Stearns collateral, and not JP Morgan Chase's. As to whether the Fed must be paid back - well, the law doesn't allow the Fed to simply give money away, and defaulting on a Fed loan has got to be orders of magnitude worse than defaulting on any old typical loan.

I agree with Richardxx that the bosses at Bearn stearns need to be given their walking papers and without millions of dollars parting bonuses.

I feel sorry for the shareholders of Bear Stearns, most of whom are ordinary people like you and me. Bearn Stearn will be bought out by JPM or some other bank, but will the common shareholders of BS really receive value for their investment - probably not.

Ellen
Very nice picture indeed.

I'd say that the common shareholders will receive full value for their shares - value of shares in a bankrupt company are already at zero. They bet in the market, and their bet came up "snake eyes."

They went for the larger possible returns, and accepted the risk of total loss when they did so. No mom and pop investors invested directly in Bear Stearns. The people who bought shares in that company were trained and supposedly savvy investors, supposedly aware of the risk they were taking.

Sympathy for such investors is wasted.

Instead, consider some sympathy for the multitude of people who conducted the largest investment action most of us will every undertake in our lives and got a mortgage. Since almost all home mortgage holders are, by definition, inexperiences, they depended on the expertise of the broker and they depended on the lender whose money was at risk to step in and stop clearly bad loans. Instead they got Alan Greenspan encouraging more ARMs to everyone. The system became a flock of financial vultures picking up fees from everyone before they returned to their trees searching for more suckers.

Just as it's unethical to play poker with someone who doesn't know how to play the game, it was unethical for the mortgage lenders to make the loans that have now choked the entire credit system. Save your sympathies for those who were suckered and fleeced in by a corrupt system. That does not include any of the investors at Bear Stearns.

Right now the biggest culprit in the mortgage mess, Countrywide, owes me just under $800 which they overpaid fon my taxers from escrow, and which was sent back to them over a month ago. They have been saying the refund was in the mail to me for three weeks. Yeah, right. They are bankrupt and cash-strapped, so they are what lenders call "Slow-Pay." As long as I can't cash their check, that's another $800 they don't have to borrow in the market and pay interest on. Wither their credit, it is likely no one will lend anything to them.

The $2 billion that Bank of America pumped in a few months ago wasn't enough, so BoA took them over (stock transfer - no more cash) to give them the shelter of BoA's credit. The big result of that was the BoA's credit rating took a dive. Now the FBI and the SEC are investigating whether Countrywide lied in their financial reports Well, duh, of course they did. They've known they were in trouble for over a year and a half, probably since Greenspan started jacking up the interest rate in February 2005.

Now they are defrauding me and probably everyone else they hold escrow accounts on to try to survive. It is a conscious decision by a set of crooks - financial vultures - to steal as much as they can before they have to go away. CEO Angelo Mozilo is walking away with a $160 million bonus as a going away present. Everyone else loses.

Don't waste your sympathy on the financial vultures. The corporate "limited liability" system is designed to protect them and screw everyone else.

No mom and pop investors invested directly in Bear Stearns.

Are you sure? What about people's retirement funds? If your retirement includes an S&P 500 index, you own some BSC (Bear Stearns stock). I own a lot of the index myself in various retirement accounts (though I may not count as a "mom and pop investor").

If you want to argue that the majority of the stock is held by large individual investors (after doing "look through" from various mutual funds), that's fine, although I still would want to see the numbers. Individual retirement and corporate pension funds really add up. (Perhaps corporate pension funds do not count either, since the ownership link to those who will presumably eventually receive the payouts is tenuous at best: pension funds do get terminated and individuals simply lose out.)

As to personal accountability: First, put down the strawmen. I don't believe in a rich-guy double standard. I do believe strongly in the concept of a corporation, which is fundamentally that the CEOs aren't personally, financially liable for the activity of the corporation. This enables people to start businesses without unintentionally risking every single thing that they own in the process. So I believe it would be wrong to send the managers of Bear Stearns to jail, or to strip them of all their assets, because of this crisis. So if this is what you all mean by "personal accountability", I am absolutely opposed to it, because it strikes at the very heart of the definition of a corporation. Now, if what you mean instead is that these people "should be" fired, then I have no problem agreeing with that. However, I believe that decision should be made by whomever ends up acquiring Bear Stearns. If they decide not to fire them for whatever reason, then that's their call, and it's also the right of all of their customers to judge them appropriately. I suppose it wouldn't seem just, in a karmic sense of the word, not to fire the Bear Stearns guys. But I am more interested in formal justice than karmic justice. I suppose the Fed could make a change in management a precondition for loaning money. But I really, really wouldn't want to see the government involved in that level of micromanagement of any business, even one like Bear Stearns.

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Nothing new here. American styled "capitalism" has, for at least the past 30 years, been all about privatizing profit while socializing risk. Capitalist ideologues are all about "free markets, unfettered by government interference" up until the precise moment when government help is needed to save their sorry necks from the trouble they got themselves into thanks to lack of government oversight and regulation. Once the bailout is accomplished, they go back to preaching about the evils of government interference.

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Jenn,

truly. As I said in another post; there is no downside for Wall Street bad actors.

The Bear Stern managers got involved in crappy investments, the managers made themselves a bundle, now they want a bailout, which simply rewards the bad actors and sets a bad example to others looking to "make a buck".

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Whoops, I missed Dean's generalization of the British stock transaction tax to an inclusive financial sales tax. I think such a tax should be low for "useful" investments and higher for speculation and financial engineering. For stocks, capital gains taxes already exist so I'm not sure if a transaction fee, flat or proportional, seems warranted. Warren Buffett does have a point that his tax rate shouldn't be lower than his secretary's. I don't think investment would cease if capital gains were treated more equitably.

For derivatives, a transaction fee should be enacted and it should rise with the degree of financial engineering. CDO's of CDO's should be taxed more than CDO's. The financial crash is partly due to the opacity of the novel financial instruments being traded

A large component of the crash arose from financial fraud(stated income, teaser rate, etc) with mortgages being sold by the originators to banks who knew that they were going to pass them on, so there should be transaction costs for selling debt. And regulation -- no teaser rates, no no money down, no interest only introductory rates, etc, some mortgage brokers should go to jail, and there should be some legal or contractual recourse for purchasers.

But the largest part of the problem was excessive leverage. Just because people are wealthy and Nobel bright doesn't mean they should be unregulated -- LTCM.

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Just a little perspective ...

Baker's stock transaction tax is usually known as a "Tobin tax" among economists, after the noted American economist who proposed back when we were young. A 0.25% rate is generally pretty high for a Tobin tax, which is usually set at 0.1% or less, one dollar in tax for one thousand in transaction. When I think about a Tobin tax I postulate it at even less, around 0.07% -- seven cents per hundred dollars, seventy cents per thousand, seven lousy bucks per 10,000 of financial transaction. It's not going to hurt anyone's middle-class savings, it's not even going to put much of a damper on arbitrage transactions. But because of the huge amounts that slush around the financial markets, the overall take could be quite significant.

My dad was very secretive about his business, he certainly wasn't rich when I was young but he kept at it, and it turned out that he just triggered the estate tax when he passed away. He was generous to some people in his will and not so to others, my wife and I were kind of in the middle, we got a low six-digit stock & bond portfolio to stabilize our situation after a lifetime of entrepreneurship that had left us 20 or 30 grand in the hole. I've done my best to hold on to it ... and in pursuing profitable high-dividend stocks, I've paid dividend taxes to France and New Zealand withheld at a rate around 20% and to Japan at a lower rate. (Oh yeah, and I still made a profit.) Some of those taxes may be only on dividends paid foreign to the taxing nation, yet still ... can anyone really argue today that Japanese and French Companies that have to pay these direct taxes on dividends are significantly hobbled compared to American companies, where the dividend is paid and it's up to the individual taxpayer to later figure our their situation and pay the appropriate tax -- again only 15% for most investors, lower than the middle class pays on their wages, and foreign dividend receivers pay no tax at all ??

The concept of the Tobin tax has been well-argued among economists, outside the "let business make its own rules and name its own regulators" school there is general agreement that a Tobin tax does not harm the overall economy and does not affect legitimate business investments in physical structures and productive enterprises. As dollar sinks and foreign investors buy out our former wealth, why not get a few bucks of tax out of them?

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Thanks for the info and insight.

Featherfamily,
Thanks for the info but I think a Tobin tax is a little bit different than what Dr. Baker is suggesting. A Tobin tax is a tax on currency exchanges across borders, and not a tax on all stock market transactions as Dr. Baker proposed.

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T2 Partners has a very neat Bursting Bubble Power Point Presentation.

The problem with indexing investments for inflation is that it makes inflation itself painless for those whose investments are indexed.

That does two things. It encourages inflation making it less politically painful for the government to permit inflation and less likely to put into practice those actions that would control it, and it sets up two classes of investors, those whose investments are indexed and those who investments are not. Neither are good for the market itself.

Unindexed markets are themselves a way of discouraging inflation. The markets are supposed to be the place where investors bring all the information about the economy together with their investment funds and work out the best solutions. Indexing does nothing except complicate the calculations and create winners and losers in what is not an investment process.

If investors can't predict inflation and protect themselves from it, they aren't doing their jobs properly. The market is a place where good investors are rewarded and poor ones punished. That's what it's supposed to do. They didn't have to play in that game. Bailing out or protecting the losers is a bad idea.

This is one strong vote against indexing anything for inflation except pensions and the alternative minimum tax.

I think the stock transfer tax is a brilliant idea, long overdue. However, the proposed rate is too low, by a factor of 10.

The tax should be 2.5%. To compensate investors, government should open a giant, no-load index fund managed by salaried civil servants. By avoiding exorbitant fees, investors would profit enough to cover the transfer tax many times over.

Then, corporations that break the law should be blacklisted from the index fund. This would be a far more effective punishment than the slaps on the wrist that corporations get away with now.

You guys simply don't get it. I will just move all my trading activities to some offshore haven like the Cayman Islands, Dubai, or Singapore. Or I can use exotic derivatives to replicate the movement in share price without paying tax. You will not be able to stop me.

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(Seriously)For years investors wanting to get around UK stamp duty having been doing this. Some offshore havens actually have stamp duty but no capital gains tax for example

ANY COMMENTARY ON ARTICLE BY GREG PALLAST?

HERE ARE SOME EXCERPTS:

The $200 billion bail-out for predator banks and Spitzer charges are intimately linked
By Greg Palast
(www.GregPalast.com )
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While New York Governor Eliot Spitzer was paying an 'escort' $4,300 in a hotel room in Washington, just down the road, George Bush's new Federal Reserve Board Chairman, Ben Bernanke, was secretly handing over $200 billion in a tryst with mortgage bank industry speculators.
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Both acts were wanton, wicked and lewd. But there's a BIG difference. The Governor was using his own checkbook. Bush's man Bernanke was using ours.
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This week, Bernanke's Fed, for the first time in its history, loaned a selected coterie of banks one-fifth of a trillion dollars to guarantee these banks' mortgage-backed junk bonds. The deluge of public loot was an eye-popping windfall to the very banking predators who have brought two million families to the brink of foreclosure.
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Up until Wednesday, there was one single, lonely politician who stood in the way of this creepy little assignation at the bankers' bordello: Eliot Spitzer.
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Who are they kidding? Spitzer's lynching and the bankers' enriching are intimately tied. How? Follow the money.
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The press has swallowed Wall Street's line that millions of US families are about to lose their homes because they bought homes they couldn't afford or took loans too big for their wallets. Ba-LON-ey. That's blaming the victim.
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Here's what happened. Since the Bush regime came to power, a new species of loan became the norm, the 'sub-prime' mortgage and it's variants including loans with teeny "introductory" interest rates. From out of nowhere, a company called 'Countrywide' became America's top mortgage lender, accounting for one in five home loans, a large chuck of these 'sub-prime.'
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'Steering,' sub-prime loans with usurious kickers, fake inducements to over-borrow, called 'fraudulent conveyance' or 'predatory lending' under US law, were almost completely forbidden in the olden days (Clinton Administration and earlier) by federal regulators and state laws as nothing more than fancy loan-sharking.
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But when the Bush regime took over, Countrywide and its banking brethren were told to party hardy – it was OK now to steer'm, fake'm, charge'm and take'm.
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But there was this annoying party-pooper. The Attorney General of New York, Eliot Spitzer, who sued these guys to a fare-thee-well. Or tried to.
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Instead of regulating the banks that had run amok, Bush's regulators went on the warpath against Spitzer and states attempting to stop predatory practices. Making an unprecedented use of the legal power of "federal pre-emption," Bush-bots ordered the states to NOT enforce their consumer protection laws.
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Indeed, the feds actually filed a lawsuit to block Spitzer's investigation of ugly racial mortgage steering. Bush's banking buddies were especially steamed that Spitzer hammered bank practices across the nation using New York State laws.
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Spitzer not only took on Countrywide, he took on their predatory enablers in the investment banking community. Behind Countrywide was the Mother Shark, its funder and now owner, Bank of America. Others joined the sharkfest: Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch and Citigroup's Citibank made mortgage usury their major profit centers. They did this through a bit of financial legerdemain called "securitization."
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Then, on Wednesday of this week, the unthinkable happened. Carlyle Capital went bankrupt. Who? That's Carlyle as in Carlyle Group. James Baker, Senior Counsel. Notable partners, former and past: George Bush, the Bin Laden family and more dictators, potentates, pirates and presidents than you can count.
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The Fed had to act. Bernanke opened the vault and dumped $200 billion on the poor little suffering bankers. ... Not one family was saved – but not one banker was left behind.
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Every mortgage sharking operation shot up in value. Mozilo's Countrywide stock rose 17% in one day. The Citi sheiks saw their company's stock rise $10 billion in an afternoon.
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And that very same day the bail-out was decided – what a coinkydink! – the man called, 'The Sheriff of Wall Street' was cuffed. Spitzer was silenced.
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Do I believe the banks called Justice and said, "Take him down today!" Naw, that's not how the system works. But the big players knew that unless Spitzer was taken out, he would create enough ruckus to spoil the party. Headlines in the financial press – one was "Wall Street Declares War on Spitzer" - made clear to Bush's enforcers at Justice who their number one target should be. And it wasn't Bin Laden.
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It was the night of February 13 when Spitzer made the bone-headed choice to order take-out in his Washington Hotel room. He had just finished signing these words for the Washington Post about predatory loans:
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"Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye."
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Bush, said Spitzer right in the headline, was the "Predator Lenders' Partner in Crime." The President, said Spitzer, was a fugitive from justice. And Spitzer was in Washington to launch a campaign to take on the Bush regime and the biggest financial powers on the planet.
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IF THIS IS TRUE, WE SHOULD BE HEARING THIS FROM THE TALKING HEADS OF MSM AND ELSEWHERE ... NOT THE TITILLATING GOSSIP OF SPITZER'S PERSONAL DEMONS.
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WOULD LOVE SOME COMMENTARY ON THIS... THE SPITZER PERSONAL "AFFAIR" QUITE A RED HERRING FOR FURTHER EXPLOITATION BY CORPORATE RAPISTS.
THANKS

BREAKING NEWS

BEAR STEARNS WAS JUST BOUGHT OUT BY J P MORGAN (AS PREDICTED BY YOURS TRULY ABOVE) FOR $2 PER SHARE - A DISCOUNT OF 97.5% OF THE OPENING PRICE AND 1/15TH OF THE CLOSING PRICE FRIDAY

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By way of Calculated Risk and the Wall Street Journal Is Lehman Next?

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From market movement the answer seems to be yes.

Great article! How right you are!

Ellen
you say "By way of Calculated Risk and the Wall Street Journal is Lehman Next?"
Good question.

No one knows if other banks will sink or swim. One thing is clear, JPM is not likely to bail out another bank soon and there are not many other buyers in the market right now. BS's troubles became magnified because of a smaller capital base, other banks may be able to sustain larger hits - for now.

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I personally hate using the tax code in attempt to influence behavior. Just use some sort of regulation.

People who do day trading are providing liquidity to the market. So this keep trading cost lower a tax would reduce the amount of liquidity. Reducing liquidity reduces the amount of trading being done. You don't really explain why reducing the amount of trading being done would help the overall financial system.

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I've been thinking of something like this in a similar vein for a while, and it is a good thing.

I knew nothing of the tax in the UK.

It should apply to EVERYONE, including non-profits and pension funds, because part of the goal is to discourage rapid trades by the big players.

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