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Samantha Power, superstar intellectual and Obama foreign policy guru, has resigned from the Obama campaign after calling Hillary Clinton "a monster" who would stoop to anything to win.

Seems to me this is mostly a political/media event, not a change in the underlying reality. Power isn't going to stop advising Obama, and I doubt the Republicans would make an issue of him giving her a job if he wins on account of her having said mean things about Hillary Clinton.

It's all about the politics. With that, the floor is yours.


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This is beginning to resemble Bush v. Kerry more and more. What I don't understand is why the Democratic party elders are letting Hillary destroy the party.

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The whole thing is enough to almost miss Rudy, who would have put the whole thing to rest with a witty and dismissive playback of her own 60 Minutes attack:

"Hillary is not a Monster... as far as I know."

Obama needs a few more clever, and less imtimidated, writers on staff.

Oh - that would have been great!

I was very surprised with Samantha Power's statement. I thought she was smarter than that.

With that said, I am not sure how I feel about her resignation ... is it good for Obama or not?

It seems more like he is letting the Clinton campaign dictate how he runs his campaign.

But at the end of it ... if can't tumble with her now, he's not going to be able to run against McCain, but more importantly, he will not be able to run an effective administration, should he win.

He's looking weaker by the day ~ which is exactly what the Clinton team has sought out to do ...

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Yes, I would have thought she would know that with a statement such as the one she made it could get reported. Perhaps she is just honorable, not given to doing to others she has interviewed over the years what was done to her.

I don't think it's so much a matter of Power not being "smart" as just making a judgment error. No one makes them sign on for the job, but the hours these campaign people work are truly insane. Many of us would be looking for an oxygen mask inside of a week doing what they do. They're running on adrenaline for months on end. So it might be seen as somewhat surprising we don't see more bad judgment errors than we see, or that are reported at any rate.

Jimmy Carter thought he was off the record (or did he?, shrewd politician that he was and is) when he acknowledged having had lust in his heart many times during his interview with Playboy while running for president in 1976.

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I was very surprised with Samantha Power's statement. I thought she was smarter than that.

And reactions of people like you means it will hurt her reputation more than Obama's. I myself suspect that she was trying to give the reporter a feeling that she would be a candid source for him, that she was a straightforward analyst type who would give her true judgment of situations, so that he would recommend her book. She was thinking the self-interest over the Obama interest. That backfired on her, because he didn't take it off the record. In a perverse way, works different on me, I don't like analysts who propagandize for a candidate, so I am going to keep an open mind about her. At same time, someone who would throw out rough characterizations like that off-record to a reporter, probably does not belong in diplomatic work, you've got to be much savvier at it than that.

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I agree with Josh's take in his 1:03 today, "Thank You, May I Have Another?"

This Obama supporter thinks it's ridiculous that Obama would accept Power's resignation over this. He looked weak in this instance.

This was a fine moment for Obama to tell Power to get back in there, be more careful next time, and come back hard at Hillary. Who is Hillary Clinton to be telling him who his advisors should be?

I hope Obama will conclude quickly that he would have been better off standing his ground on this type of matter, which all presidents face, so he can get back on his game and limit this to a one-off incident.

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Agreed. How hard would it have been for him to say "look, this is much ado about nothing. Supporters get emotionally involved in a campaign. It isn't my official position that Senator Clinton is a 'monster,' and I have urged Ms. Power to speak more temperately in the future."

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It's clear enough that a certain fatigue has set in, partially by plan, partially because it's a fact, and the campaign is content to let a few kerfluffles go down, see how it plays , and then resume.

What remains are the facts that a campaign that vowed never to take the low road either decides to turn back and do just that, or continue on the high road but with a more pugnacious attitude about it.

I prefer the latter. Obama is running against precisely this type of politicking, and the events that have transpired since last week are exactly what we'll be in for for 4 more years unless the people themselves demonstrate their support for the new politics Barack Obam represents.

Everything in the campaign thus far has represented what we believe, and it's not time to abandon all hope just because the other side does exactly what we knew they would. But to rise above this, we need to deluge the public voice with our objections to this approach, or we will be doomed to permanently watch things like global warming and the deteriorating economy partisanized to a solutionless gridlock.

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I really think the resignation is wussy. She should ahve just said, "Yeah, I said it and I think it and I'm keeping my job."

It wasn't that bad an insult to begin with and it's okay to loathe your opponents a bit.

The thing that's wussy about it is that Clinton's campaign called on her to resign. She should ahve stood fast and pointed out that Clinton's campaign won't be making personel decisions for Obama's campaign.

But, since this seems to work... Obama... please call on Mark Penn to resign!

Now that Obama has accepted the resignation of Ms. Powers, I think he should immediately fire back at Clinton and demand that Wolfson be fired for comparing Barack to Ken Starr.

Number One, if she has set the ground rules as such, (someone in your camp publicly disses me, then they should be gone), he should pick up that rule book and hit her over the head with it.

Number Two, "monster" is a pretty generic term, whereas "Ken Starr" is a very specific term with an explicit meaning. And let's face it, in the Clinton household "Ken Starr" is a much harsher and demeaning invective than calling someone a nondescript "monster".

If this is how she wants to play, then she should be forced to follow the rules that she herself set.

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No, sorry, it's Marc Penn who must go. Listen to me Obama -- demand Penn's resignation!

It appears that he could now "demand" the resignation of quite a few of her people. And honestly, I don't care which one he chooses ~ pick a name out of a hat. The point is, he should start applying the same set of rules to her. See how she reacts. Does she fold and do it? Does she ignore it? Does she back off a bit?

FIGHT BACK! It doesn't have to be negative. It's just demanding she follow her own guidelines. Hitting her with her own ammunition.

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I'd really be happy to see Samantha Power as Secretary of State. She's really as high profile a genocide opponent as we have, and she'd make me feel better about Obaama's Iraq War stance.

Can't we live in a world where we call each other monsters with impunity?

I was sad when she resigned. I thought this would be a great mistake for her to learn from on her transformation to be a policy maker.

Of course he's letting the Hillary campaign dictate his campaign.

His entire platform is pretty much "I agree with Hillary. Except for my awesome speech six years ago."

You know ... you're right!

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Isn't the statement "Hillary is a Monster" not something that the Clinton campaign really wants to see in a headline? This is a pretty common thing to see in political campaigns. A surrogate making a nasty comment, getting it out in the press, and then resigning to shield the candidate.

Hillary has pulled this stunt multiple times on Obama already. Think Bill Shaheen.

Every headline that has "Hillary" and "Monster" in it is hurting Hillary. She would have been much better just ignoring it. If it were Karl Rove I would suspect he planned the whole thing.

The Clintons a few weeks ago made Obama "the black candidate." More recently they put this Canada-NAFTA thing in the headlines, with no real charge that withstood critical scrutiny, and Rezko, although that too has no substance, and the Clintons know it.

The Clintons are masters of spin, but it looks like they were outspun here. I hate to see Obama playing the Clintons' game, but sometimes, those who live by the sword die by the sword.

Hillary keeps talking about how she has been vetted. The undeniable reality is that without even delving into more recent matters, like the fundraising for Bill CLinton's library, there is enough dirt on the Clintons to make ugly headlines for them for the next nine years if necessary. She is not electable. The nation has had more than enough of the Clintons.

I think Josh's position that they are inside Obama's collective head is a bit of an over-statement - but it did make me take a step back. I think there is a very true narrative that will emerge from this. When the going get's tough Hillary fights ugly. When the going get's tough Obama sticks to his principles, fights with consistency and continues to move forward. She made a net gain of what 10 delegates? A Michigan re-vote is not a bad option - I think he'd pull it out. We all need to take deep breath and get back to the facts of the race at this point in time. Although I do think Hillary will go too far and can hurt the party, I also think him winning a tough fight against her plays well to larger story.

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The upside: Obama has quickly dispatched a problem so that it does not dog his campaign.

The downside: He has lost a wonderfully strong voice in his campaign, and looks weak and reactive. It might have been better to say that she apologized and that was enough, just like MSNBC suspended Schuster and left it at that.

To illustrate the point: Last night on the local (San Francisco) news they showed Hillary repeating the McCain line. It was disgusting, but she looked confident and in command. They then showed Obama looking passive and the clip did not directly address what Hillary said but more spoke to his years of experience vs. hers.

The trouble is that there is a large segment of the population that does not respond to the words but to the visual and visceral. Viscerally, that made Hillary look like a strong warrior, and Obama like a passive intellectual. Kerry lost a lot in 2004 because he was perceived as too passive in hitting back on the swift boaters. Dukakis and Bernard Shaw and the hypothetical rape of Kitty--well you get the point.

Obama has to stand up here and show a little backbone, a little fierceness. It is not his style, and it does not have to be done with maliciousness or harshness, but it has to come across as forceful and tough. Dropping Power, not hitting back hard enough on NAFTA-that doesn't cut it.

My two bits.

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Kudos...

You've hit the nail on the head...

"...visual and visceral..."

Obama needs to assert that side of himself...

I think Obama had no other choice her than accept Powers resignation. If she didn't resign, the Clinton campaign would have been all over the comment during the weekend. Obama said he was going to lead a different campaign and he very well couldn't have one of his advisers call Clinton a monster and let her stay without looking like a hypocrite. And to the average voter (not political junkies who know every slur Clinton has thrown his way including yesterday's Ken Starr remark) that would look bad. This Powers thing would have been the wrong thing to be aggressive about fighting.

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Clinton has spent the past year making sure we know she is a "monster", able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, able to start wars during coffee break, too tough for the average man, etc. So now that someone shows how successful she was at projecting that image, she wants that person fired? I don't get it.

And, Powers comment was, in my opinion, a compliment. Would Clinton prefer to have been referred to as a lady?

Most definitely, a media event!
The today show this morning led with the controversial statement from the Obama campaign and I was waiting to see how bad it was. I know we will each have our opinion on this but calling Hillary a monster, although not smart, is hardly nasty. I mean, seriously, nasty would be calling her a bitch or a whore. I don't agree with Power's words and she should have known better (this is not the first time the media has leaped onto comments and made it a huge "story") but come on folks, isn't it obvious that the media is having a feeding frenzy on this?
What's saddest is that the "discussion" about politics and the direction our country is heading in takes a back-seat while we throw mud at each other and talk about how mean the other side is. I suppose that's the state our political landscape is in these days but it's still sucks!

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This is the box Obama placed himself into...

Hillary can get as down and dirty as she'd like, and Obama can't respond in kind. He's got to figure out how to respond to this and much dirtier tactics and still stay above the fray.

My guess is, he can't. That places a real limitation on him -- trying to run a positive campaign inside a world that never was and never will be "positive."

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Well, I just see Josh had already posted exactly what I just said, in his "Thank you..." post...

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Yes. Obama take the high road? Sure. It suits him, is consistent with his message and seems integral to his appeal (provided people feel he will be tough enough when he needs to be). Obama aims to run a clean and hopefully effective and responsive government if and when he is elected.

But, sheesh, he is not applying for a job running a nunnery. If the worst thing that ever happened in or just prior to an Obama Administration is Samantha Power referring to Hillary Clinton as a "monster" during the campaign that would strike this reader as utterly surreal. I would far more readily conclude the media could not possibly have been doing its job.

It's problem for Obama because what Wolfson said was worse, yet he didn't lose his job. Obama needs to show more toughness.

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Samantha Power was a new name to me, so the dustup sent me to YouTube and elsewhere to find out who we're talking about.

My initial response:

Wow. When does she get to run for president?

My second response:

Wow. What a great VP she would make on an Obama ticket. And wouldn't that rattle the Clinton windows just a bit.

My third and (for the sake of brevity) final response:

Samantha Power is precisely the sort of advisor I would hope to find behind any president. More like her please. Let her debate Mark Penn and let us all watch. Please oh please.

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Monsters everywhere are outraged, and are bringing a class action lawsuit against the Obama campaign.

In regard to Josh's first posting, I see his points but I do not entirely agree that the speedy resignation is an example of Obama’s “slapping this guy around like crazy.” I think to maintain his integrity and the moral high road (and I do think that it is this high road that will eventually resonate with the voters and the powers that be within the Democratic Party) there was no option but to have Power resign and to accept that resignation with dispatch and professionalism. It is unfortunate that the resignation appears to have been in reaction to demands from the Clinton campaign, but I think that it was an act of principal from both Samantha Power and Barack Obama that unfortunately coincided with demands, not a reaction to the demands.

What I cannot understand at this point is why the Obama team is not being all out by aggressively pursuing some of the news items that have been buried, for example, the obfuscations and distortions the Clinton campaign has made in regard to the NAFTA reassurances to the Canadian government. It tells me something about Obama that he is not going after these issues, pointing out the lies and deceit. And this worries me more, much more, than his actions in regard to Samantha Power (who probably--I hope--will be back with him should he win the presidency).


While I certainly wish that Powers did not have to resign, and I hate seeing HRC get her way, I don't think this is such a big deal when you look at the grand scheme of things.

This is unlikely to have much effect in Wyoming and Mississippi and as soon as he wins those by healthy margins which all indications are that he will, this will spin itself out. We then have a 6 week window before PA at which point most of this will be forgotten.
As long as he re-groups and comes out of Tuesday strong, I think all is good.

meh- erased the rest of my comment.

I also think that if Obama gets too much into the fray that he risks escalating the rhetoric. If there were close elections in the next week, it would be imperitive that Obama deflect these things strongly - this is what he didn't do last week and it was a mistake but it isn't the same situation here.
There is something to be said for letting people expend their energy and then to jump into a more controlled environment. It is a little like when a child has a temper tantrum, very little will be accomplished by engaging with them at that point.

I also think HRC is overplaying her hand. Prior to OH/TX she went a little negative and it worked, but this isn't a case where more is better. A little doubt seeding goes a long way, but an all out attack and siding with the enemy alienates people. I suspect this will back-fire on Ms Clinton.

What about The Scotman's attitude towards "off the record" comments? It is cavalier and unprofessional. I suggest we need to engage them on this point. Have ya'll read the editor's explanation? Essentially: One's the tape's rolling, there are no takebacks. As a journo myself, that's not exactly how you build contacts and respect.

For anyone who's still hungry:

Tonight, BBC America's Newsnight airs an interview with Samantha Power, who has been forced to resign as Barack Obama's foreign policy adviser after calling Hillary Clinton a "monster". As Obama faltered in this week's crucial primaries in Texas and Ohio, Power defended his foreign policy credentials in a tough in-depth interview with Jeremy Paxman.

Newsnight airs tonight on BBC America at 10:00 p.m. ET/7:00 p.m. PT.

For further information: Matt Marshall, 202 355 1737, matt.marshall@bbc.com

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Not to mention the article repeats the "Obama said NAFTA stuff" thing, but we now know (or at least it's been reported...) that it was actually Clinton's camp doing it.

That entire article seemed just really strange and off...

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how on earth is it unprofessional ?

She was giving an on the record interview. And one she had agreed was on the record. If power lacks the professionalism to avoid making stupid remarks then it's certainly not the journalist's job to clear up after her.

The 'no takebacks' is absolutely standard practise in fleet street.

Unless you've agreed what's on or off the record before the interview then anything you say will be reported. After all, at least in the UK press, the journalist isn't there to act as some sort of unpaid PR flack.

Obama seems to be sticking to his principles. Probably most people following closely see this as well.

But the Dems problem has always been overestimating the public. They don't follow things as closely. Most need to be told what is going on. Without communication, Obama just looks weak. With the right communication Obama can turn this back onto Hillary (and McSame), showing he is beyond the attack politics most everyone is sick of. He should do a major press conference. Take the high road, but TELL people what he's doing so they don't confuse principle with weakness.

Hillary is on the path to single-handedly ruin the chances of a Democrat winning the presidency.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=ba30ff16-a5af-4035-a883-cf15ffee406c

I think we can safely say that The Scotsman will never be granted an interview by the Obama administration.

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well It were done quickly (MacBeth I.7)

While my reptilian brain would rather see Obama fight to keep Power (as a friend of mine said, at least until Wolfson goes for his Starr comment), I'm thinking this is in Obama's better long term interests. Surely this is a better than how Edwards dealt with the Catholic League protests over Amanda Marcotte and Melissa McEwan: he first said they were staying, and after a week more of bad press, they resigned to cease being a "distraction" to the campaign. At least this way, Obama can say he doesn't tolerate mud slinging or dirty politics, that becomes another contrast with the Clinton campaign. Yes, he may seem bullied, but it's far better to do it now, than to succumb after several days more bad press.

Obama had a choice: either stick with her for the duration, or cut her loose quickly. He chose the latter, which is the right call. Obama is running on the politics of hope, not the politics of personal destruction. If he's seen tacitly approving of such attacks, then he and Hillary only differ in degree; if he shows that he clearly doesn't tolerate it, then they differ in kind. In the former case, you don't want to have the how many mudslingers are in your campaign debate, but in the latter case, you do.

Sen. Obama should have defended Ms. Powers. He should not have accepted her resignation. If the Obama campaign is going to play defensive, this would have been the time when they could have wrested the narrative from being Clinton-driven and begun to played defensive on their own terms and it might have even enabled them to attack on their own terms. They are letting Clinton herd them on the 24-hour channels. Bad. Besides, I would rather have one Samantha Powers in the room with me than a hundred Fighting Hillary Clintons. A Fighting Clinton? hah! One word negation – Rwanda.

I believe canning Power has a lot more to do with losing TX, OH, & RI this week. Why? This was a terrible outcome for him given the assumptions that he was going to at least take TX Tuesday night. When Hillary stumbled with IA and then in the states after NH, she finally shook out the campaign staff. Obama has failed to do the same after his stumble in OH & TX.

Also, the two campaigns are the BIG TEST between two Democratic campaign strategies: Obama's 50 STATE (advocated by Howard Dean) versus Hillary's Big State (championed by Rohm Emanuel). Matthew Rothschild over at the Progressive (http://progressive.org/mag_wx030508) opines that Obama should've written off OH to concentrate on TX. He then concludes that the outcome wouldn't have been as much of a"comeback" for Hillary if she had only taken OH.

Finally, Power's departure should relieve some of the pressure Obama's campaign has experienced over her previous comments toward Israel.

Samantha Power should be reinstated immediately. Obama should have stood his ground. He should have stood by this good,smart woman. Obama gained no support by letting Power go, and he possibly weakened support he alreday has. Why not use the answer Hillary used on 60 minuted, "I take Sen. Clinton at her that she is not a monster". Most all responses to Hillary Clinton call for ridicule. It's the law.

Get out of the "wimp room" Barry. Samantha Power should be reinstated immediately. Obama should have stood his ground. He should have stood by this good,smart woman. Obama gained no support by letting Power go, and he possibly weakened support he already has. Why not use the answer Hillary used on 60 minuted, "I take Sen. Clinton at her word that she is not a monster". Most all responses to Hillary Clinton call for ridicule. It's the law.

Aaah, Paxman and Newsnight - a real journalist - something they still have in Britain. Unfortunately, they're pretty much extinct in this country. If the tape is running, it's on the record, end of story.

Anyways, Powers was spot on - Hilary is a monster who will do anything to get elected - 3AM anyone? Is it worth becoming the scaremongering republicans just to win the presidency? Isn't that exactly the sort of thing most progressive minded people would like to see disappear from what passes for political discourse in this county? Praising the republican nominee over the her own party's most likely nominee?

Honestly, I've lost a great deal of respect for Hilary over the past week. She's taken off the gloves and unless she pulls off a mathematical miracle in the coming weeks, the democratic party will have to deal with the consequences come general election.

Way to score points by sticking to policy Hillary!

Anybody or anything is fair game if it advances your numbers? You could have won over more Democrats by taking the high road.

"I'm sure Samantha Powers was over excited when she made that comment. She has years of fighting for the big issues like....and we don't want to lost someone like that in the Democratic party"

or when Cross asked you that question on 60 Minutes:

"I find premise of the question offensive."

This is exactly the type of distraction based political discourse we can expect in your administration and exactly what separates you from Barack!

Keep your head high Samantha Powers!

Had it been a Clinton surrogate who called Obama a monster all the Obama supporters would be grabbing their pitchforks and gunning for blood and anyone who denies it is a liar AND a hypocrite. Bill Clinton called the IDEA the Obama was against the Iraq war consistently a fairy tale and he gets branded a racist. Double, triple, quadruple standard.

Obama surrogates with their anti-Hillary rhetoric is just over the top. Hillary says he's not ready to be Commander in Chief - that's topical and substantive criticism. That is in bounds. But all this she's a Bi!$#, she's a monster has nothing to do with policy or vision. But I guess if you can't win on substance, then you resort to personal attacks.

Obama is "new politics" just as George W. Bush is to "uniter" or "compassionate conservative". great line, great in theory, but when you look at their actions and those of their supporters, they do not match the rhetoric.

Are you nuts? What's the big deal with 'monster.' I don't get it. Was it supposed to be demeaning to monsters or something? Hillary can't be THAT thin-skinned. I think Obama should have just laughed it off. That's all it was worth.

I think Obama has had his "Swiftboating" moment and he's failed the test. Not only on the Samantha Power fiasco, but on NAFTA too he's proven that he can, and will, be rolled just like Kerry. Hillary went into the elections last week with half the money and advertising and kicked his butt. She's still kicking his butt. Obama supporters need to decide whether they want to watch McCain do the same thing all over again this fall, or whether they want to go with the candidate who can fight and win.

I think rstephen's "Swiftboating moment" remarks are basically right, and with seemingly only more internecine squabbling to come from the two of them, on this day of March 2008, it rather suddenly looks a lot like "Hello, President McCain."

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