Cease-Fire With Hamas & Smearing Rob Malley

Bernard Avishai, who is one of Israel’s most provocative writers and thinkers, says that it is “getting harder and harder to find leaders in the Israeli government who are not calling for a massive invasion of Gaza.” He writes about two Israeli brothers in Sderot, 8-year-old Oshri Twito and his 19-year-old bother, Rami. “Imagine,” Avishai writes, “if you can bear it, the affection with which an older brother watches over his little brother on a Saturday evening.” They were walking in the street last week when a Kassam fired from Gaza blew up next to them. The 19-year old was severely injured. The little one lost a leg.

It is easy to see why Israelis are fed up. It is also easy to see why so many favor a full-scale invasion of Gaza to root out the terrorists. After all, what people in their right mind would put up with these attacks, attacks which serve no political goal and whose sole purpose is to terrorize and kill?

These are not attacks designed to end occupation. Even the most extreme Hamas militant knows that Israel is not going to withdraw from . . . Israel. These attacks are simply designed to inflict pain. As such, they are succeeding.

So why not invade?

Avishai writes: “Presumably, a military operation would root out Hamas and destroy terrorist cells—surgery followed by chemotherapy. Israel would enter Gaza in force and engage Hamas fighters on the ground. It would kill as many Hamas leaders as it could find and destroy the factories that make the rockets. Israel would then allow, even encourage, donor nations to invest in rehabilitating Gaza infrastructure. And in that context . . . Israel would probably agree to a sizable multi-national force, like the one in southern Lebanon, to enter Gaza and monitor the cease-fire.”

It seems to make sense.

But then Avishai asks: “Why not try to get to a general cease-fire and multi-national force without the intervening bloodbath?”

In other words, if, in the end, Israel is going to have to work out a modus vivendi with the people controlling Gaza (i.e, Hamas), why not try doing it without losing dozens of soldiers in house-to-house combat, not to mention the hundreds of civilians—including God knows how many kids—who would die.

For me, it comes down to what your view of terrorists is. Can you ever talk to them? Are they ever at all rational or are they crazed jihadists who are hell-bent to see the last Jew dead?

There are, of course, people like that. One of them is the leader of Hezbollah, Hassan Nassralah. Yesterday, following the killing in Damascus of the world’s #2 terrorist (after bin Laden), Imad Mughniyeh, Nassralah railed against whoever it was who would take out such a fine exemplar of humanity.

Nasrallah said that by killing Mughniyeh “far from the field of battle,” the perpetrators had “crossed a line.” He said that, as a result, he would lead an “open war” against Jews, Israelis, and Americans because “all people have the right to defend themselves.”

How crazed is this? Mughniyeh was responsible for killing 241 Marine peacekeepers while they slept in their barracks in 1982. He killed 85 Argentinian Jews and others at the Buenos Aires Jewish center and 29 others at the Israeli embassy in that city. He hijacked planes and ordered the execution of innocent passengers.

He did all these things, not on the battlefield, but by giving orders from fancy hotel rooms and other hideouts. As for Nasrallah’s claim that everyone has the right to defend themselves, he clearly was not including Israelis, Americans, or Jews anywhere who are supposed to simply smile and take it when their children are murdered.

In short, Nasrallah, like Mughniyeh, is about as vicious and powerful a terrorist as exists anywhere.

And yet Israel entered into a cease-fire agreement with him in 2006. It was negotiated through the United Nations, but it is a cease-fire between Israel and the murderous thugs of Hezbollah. It has been in effect since August 2006. And it has held. Without it, the 2006 summer war would still be going on. Instead, the northern border has been calm (a situation which could end at any time, of course).

So the question has to arise. Why is it acceptable to enter into a cease-fire with Hezbollah but not Hamas? If anything, Hezbollah is more militant than Hamas. Hezbollah is jihadist, it favors war against Americans and Jews everywhere. Hamas is interested only in Palestine. Although Hamas continues to express its determination to achieve Palestinian statehood in all of Palestine, it includes moderates who say that they would accept Israel within the ‘67 lines. Hamas has repeatedly offered to enter into a cease-fire with Israel, through the United Nations or not, and has, in the past, not only declared unilateral cease-fires but adhered to them. Hamas has suggested laying aside arms for 15 for 30 year periods, sometimes even more.

Skeptics say that they would use the periods of cease-fire to build up their fighting capacity. That is, of course, what Hezbollah does. It is also what Israel does. The value of a cease-fire is not that it prevents the build-up of arms for future wars but that it prevents current ones. And, of course, a cease-fire can lead to a permanent truce. That has happened before.

So why not consider a cease-fire with Hamas? As far as I can tell, the primary difference between the two organizations is that Hezbollah is a far greater threat to Israel. It demonstrated in 2006 that it can, when it chooses, actually hit Israel hard. In fact, Hezbollah succeeded in producing the near-evacuation of Israel’s north including the city of Haifa.

Hamas has nothing like that kind of power, nothing like that kind of range.

But, of course, given enough time it will. A full-scale Israeli invasion may slow Hamas down for awhile but, in due time, it—or a successor group—will come roaring back, stronger than ever. Should Israel follow the example set with Hezbollah and only negotiate a cease-fire when Hamas is so powerful that Israel has no other choice?

It makes no sense. By the same token, it makes even less sense for Hamas to keep firing its rockets at Sderot, provoking Israel’s deadly responses. If Hamas cared about the children of Gaza, who have borne the brunt of so much of this violence, it would simply stop the missile fire. Israel would then cease its own counter-fire including, one hopes, the targeted assassinations and a de facto truce would be in effect. At that point, the international community could step in, as Avishai predicts, to end the blockade of Gaza and help re-build it.

The bottom line is that both sides are acting so stupidly that one has to wonder if either really considers the human suffering they are inflicting on each other and themselves.

Enough already. The answer to violence is not more violence. How many more will have to die before this not very revolutionary idea is finally recognized as obvious?

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Smearing Rob Malley

Robert Malley is a creative scholar and diplomat who was a key player in the Clinton negotiating team that worked tirelessly to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the late 1990s through 2001. Recently, he signed up as an unofficial adviser to the Barack Obama campaign, while maintaining his close ties to his former Clinton colleagues.

Malley’s connection to the campaign produced a firestorm. Apparently, Malley wrote several articles during the last few years stating, as someone who participated at Camp David, that all the blame for the summit’s failure did not rest with Yasir Arafat but that Ehud Barak also deserved his share of the blame.

For stating that fact (as also reported by every other participant at Camp David including President Clinton), Malley has been condemned as “fanatically anti-Israel.” Jews around the country are being warned that they must vote against Obama to prevent Malley from ever darkening the halls of the State Department or White House again. Similar attacks are being made against Ambassador Joe Wilson who, it is said, is also no friend of Israel and can be expected to serve in a Hillary Clinton administration.

All this is bogus. Both Malley and Wilson are pro-Israel. The only reason that they are criticized by the extremists is because they both support Israeli-Palestinian negotiations.

The attacks on Malley, which are particularly vicious, come from a right-wing rag called the American Thinker and from the former publisher of the New Republic, Martin Peretz, who openly despises the Clintons and anyone who has ever been associated with them. As a former member of Clinton’s peace team, Malley receives Peretz’s trademark vitriolic scorn.

This should not be necessary but the following is a statement from high Clinton administration officials defending their colleague. This new McCarthyism, the kind designed to destroy careers and lives, has to end.

Statement

Over the past several weeks, a series of vicious, personal attacks have been launched against one of our colleagues, Robert Malley, who served as President Clinton's Special Assistant for Arab-Israeli affairs. They claim that he harbours an anti-Israeli agenda and has sought to undermine Israel's security. These attacks are unfair, inappropriate and wrong. They are an effort to undermine the credibility of a talented public servant who has worked tirelessly over the years to promote Arab-Israeli peace and US national interests. They must stop.

We have real differences among us about how best to conduct US policy toward the Middle East and what is the right way to build a lasting two-state solution that protects Israel's security. But whatever differences do exist, there is no disagreement among us on one core issue that transcends partisan or other divides: that the US should not and will not do anything to undermine Israel's safety or the special relationship between our two nations. We have worked with Rob closely over the years and have no doubt he shares this view and has acted consistent with it.

We face a critical period in the Middle East that demands sustained, determined and far-sighted engagement by the United States. It is not a time for scurrilous attacks against someone who deserves our respect.

Sincerely,

Samuel (Sandy) Berger
Former National Security Advisor

Amb. Martin Indyk
Former Ambassador to Israel and Egypt
and Assistant Secretary of
State for Near East Affairs

Amb. Daniel C. Kurtzer
Former Ambassador to Israel

Aaron David Miller
Former Senior Adviser for Arab-
Israeli Negotiations, Department
of State

Amb. Dennis Ross
Former Special Envoy of the President to the Middle East


Comments (12)

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We have real differences among us about how best to conduct US policy toward the Middle East and what is the right way to build a lasting two-state solution that protects Israel's security.
What they are? What's Obama view? What's Clinton view?
Why is it acceptable to enter into a cease-fire with Hezbollah but not Hamas?
If Hamas leaders want cease-fire they just need cease fire. They can do it any moment they want.
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Israel continues to occupy Palesntinian land and bomb Gaza from frequently killing innocent people including children. The kassam rockets coming into Israel are the fruit of this love Israel has planted. Has the failed and useles Lebanon war not taught the Israelis any lessons?

Hamas had won a democratic and fair election, but the US and Israel sabotaged it. Instead if the Israelis had sat down with Hamas Government and worked out a plan, things could have been better.

The Palestinians are also human and strive for same things that do Israelis. It is high time that this mindless destruction stops on both sides and common sense prevails. Talk to each other!!!

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How crazed is this? Mughniyeh was responsible for killing 241 Marine peacekeepers while they slept in their barracks in 1982. He killed 85 Argentinian Jews and others at the Buenos Aires Jewish center and 29 others at the Israeli embassy in that city. He hijacked planes and ordered the execution of innocent passengers.

I saw these assertions before. A little skepticism is in order. Mughniyeh was 18 or 19 in 1982. Do you really think someone that young directed such an attack. There is no evidence that any Lebanese carried out the Argentina attacks. From the little reading I have done the police suspect some Iranians, but not any Lebanese. This latter issue was investigated fairly intensively since there is a sizable expatriate Lebanese community in Paraguay and Argentina.

In fact there is no evidence that Hezbollah has ever attackted any American target in its entire history. That is why many were surprised when Bush placed them on our terrorist list.

I just want to make sure I understand the last two comments, so bare with me.

Hamas won a free election in Gaza and was clamoring for a meeting with the leaders of Israel so that they could begin the long, hard work of adhering to the Bush's "Road Map" but Israel rebuffed them. Is that what you're saying, ajazhaque?

And according to you, syvanen, Hezbollah really isn't much of a terrorist organization at all and there's no way that the individual widely attributed for being responsible for the Marine Barracks bombing in '82 is actually responsible. The evidence of the falsehood of this charge is that he was only 18 or 19, and thus far too young to be responsible for having coordinating a terrorist act. He was practically a baby, right? Eighteen months, eighteen years, who's counting?

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I didn't say that Hezbollah did not use terror tactics. They just have not used them against the US. Just because they are Israel's enemy that should not automatically make them our enemy.

Hezbollah was founded as an organization a few years after the attack against the marines. Was there personal that belonged to a group that attacked the marines and later joined Hezbollah? I do not know the answer to that. Was Mughniyeh involved in the attack? It seems possible but again I don't know.

We do know that he was the military leader that won Hezbollah respect throughout the moslem world for his ability to lead 1200 fighters against the might of Israel come out victorious.

I think this juxtaposition of facts should lead one to be skeptical about information that was most likely fed to the news organizations by western or Israeli intelligence services. These guys do lie you know.

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"Hezbollah is a far greater threat to Israel."

perhaps, but how big that threat is?

Clearly, this is a very small threat. it is debatable if Hezbollah has 1200 fighers of, say, 3 times more. How does it compare to IDF?

And can Hezbollah "hit Israel hard"? If we look from the point of view of "threat to the state", no. Can they kill several people? Yes. Much more? Not really. Mind you, there is also peace keeping force in the area that would be stirred into some action in such eventuality, unless IDF decides to bomb them (as was happening in the past in similar circumstances).

The issue is that Israel does not have total impunity in respect to Hezbollah, so, for example, sending assassins against Hezbollah can be subject of some retaliation that can actually kill several persons. On top of that, assassins can be intercepted and killed.

But from the lack to total impunity to threat is a very large distance. So some people observed that IDF chose to use its manpower mostly for policing West Bank, as opposed to, say, strenuous training in infantry combat or more intricate artillery tactics that could defeat rocket launchers. And nothing (except long term political and strategic calculus) indicates that this is particularly wrong. At the very least, short term dangers from Hezbollah are minuscule, from any other organized military force, negligible, so it suffices to be able to run "police" kind of activities against Palestinians.

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MJ claims that Israel has a cease-fire with Hezbollah. If so, the assasination in Damascus would be a violation, but somehow I think that MJ is wrong. There was a ceasefire, but in a sense, with nobody. No agreement, just cessasion of fire. In part, because it is not in the interest of Israel, as peceived now, to commit itself to ANYTHING.

There is a conceivable problem for the future. There is a possibility, however remote, that USA will completely withdraw from Iraq, Iraq will enter open aliance with Iran, and allied forces will appear near Golan and where Hezbollah is now, with 100-200 times more troops and rockets that Hezbollah had, plus 10 times better rockets. And the alliance can make some surly demands like treating Palestinians like humans. And retaliating for bombardments and assasinations. Or even being so cheeky as to retaliate for a simple violation of the airspace.

Another remote possibility is that Saudi and Egyptian governments will follow Shah of Iran on the list of former despots, and Egypt will cease being a friendly puppy.

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MJ claims that Israel has a cease-fire with Hezbollah. If so, the assasination in Damascus would be a violation, but somehow I think that MJ is wrong

Israel seems to be making a particular effort to claim that it was not involved in the assasination. Which somewhat supports the argument for there being such a ceasefire.

As for the accusation that Robert Malley's defense of Arafat at Camp David reflects bias against Israel, this is often based on a shifting definition of "Camp David" .

As follows:

A. As part of what is sometime loosely described as the Camp David negotiaions Israel offered generous terms at Taba(in Jan 2001).True.

B.Malley defends Arafat's rejection of the (less generous) Camp David terms (in Aug 2000). True.

C. Therefore Malley defends Arafat's rejection
of the "Camp David " agreement. Untrue.

Or True only if "Camp David agreement" is definied to mean what Arafat was offered in Aug 2000 in the Maryland Mountains.

Malley considered it a tragic error for Arafat to reject the improved terms available at Taba.


Israel is apparently leaking its involvement selectively:

Israel kills terror chief with headrest bomb

"If Hamas cared about the children of Gaza, who have borne the brunt of so much of this violence, it would simply stop the missile fire."

MJ, You may want to reconsider this statement . . . it comes a little too close, I think, to a racist slander against Palestinians which is all too commonly repeated by many in the pro-Israel community. I'm sure Hamas leaders believe they are fighting for the liberation of the Palestinian people and that ulimately, the best hope for their children, is the end of Israeli occupation and domination. You may disagree with their tactics (as do I), but believe me, Palestinians (including those who belong to Hamas) do care about their children.

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The key word is “ultimately”. Yes Hamas believes that killing all Jews is ultimately, the best hope for their children.

The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: 'The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him...'
Resisting and quelling the enemy become the individual duty of every Muslim, male or female. A woman can go out to fight the enemy without her husband's permission, and so does the slave: without his master's permission...

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with...

The day The Palestinian Liberation Organization adopts Islam as its way of life, we will become its soldiers, and fuel for its fire that will burn the enemies...

The Zionist invasion is a vicious invasion... It relies greatly in its infiltration and espionage operations on the secret organizations it gave rise to, such as the Freemasons, The Rotary and Lions clubs, and other sabotage groups. All these organizations, whether secret or open, work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions...

We should not forget to remind every Muslim that when the Jews conquered the Holy City in 1967, they stood on the threshold of the Al-Aqsa Mosque and proclaimed that 'Mohammed is dead, and his descendants are all women.'

Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Muslim people. 'May the cowards never sleep.'"

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I wonder whether Hamas will be able to come by any of the Russian anti-tank weaponry that made Israel so hesitant last time in Lebanon.

Also I think Flavius deserves some sort of reward for taking the time to actually differentiate between the initial Camp David offer and the much less generous follow-up.

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If you want to be clear begin with this: Gaza is a Ghetto in lockdown; and not a ghetto in the sense we use in the US but in the original meaning.
Put a pot of water on the stove and clamp down the lid; turn on the flame and then blame the water for the explosion.

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