When will John McCain apologize to Hillary Clinton--and all American women?
Sen. John McCain has a woman problem. As many people remember, a supporter asked him last November "how are we going to beat that bitch?" His response, after a good old boy's chuckle, was "That's an excellent question." He then went on to discuss his superior poll ratings and ended with a dutiful statement about how much he respected Sen. Hillary Clinton.
McCain's out-of-control sexism is hardly new. In 1998, he made David Shuster seem positively tame. At a Republican fund-raiser, he jokingly asked "Why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly." His answer was that "Janet Reno was the father."
Surely, I need not spell out the implications.
Folks, this election has provided us with an important and much-needed teaching moment." Can American politicians, pundits, journalists and political analysts learn to speak respectfully about female candidates and their daughters or will they end up vilifying women and alienating some huge portion of America's population? Misogyny is out of control in this campaign and perhaps the only silver lining is that many American will see how socially acceptable it still is to speak about women in hateful, contemptuous ways.
It's time for John McCain to apologize to Sen. Hillary Clinton--and to all American women--- for promoting and engaging in such insulting and disrespectful behavior toward them.. As the general election looms closer, he might remember that "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" and that they will also cast votes next November.











Comments (39)
Never, John McCain will never apologize because he will do and say anything to win and if misogyny paves his road to the White House, he will be a misogynist.
I wonder how much flip-flopping, pandering and outright lies the press will swallow before they quit thinking McCain is a straight-talker.
February 11, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Come on. I'm a very serious feminist, but even I want some more serious issues before I'm going to get mad about this. They may be out there (I'd be surprised if they aren't), but you have only given us examples that are 1) several months old and 2) ten years old.
Being called a bitch is crude and ignorant, but if we have to fuss about it months later, we've got a pretty thin skin and you have to wonder if we're ready for prime time.
I think this kind of dredging up of old wrongs makes feminists look weak, and I don't think we need it.
February 11, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was a woman that called Hillary a "bitch." One woman using that term to describe another woman is hardly evidence much less proof of McCain's sexism. Neither is his embarrased laugh.
February 11, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fact Check:
The woman asked John McCain the question, and John McCain did not tell that woman that it was wrong to refer to Senator Clinton as "The Bitch". It was at his campaign function, so he was in charge there. His failure to denounce the vicious name calling was clear evidence that he was not offended by the remarks, or else it was a failure of leadership.
On the other hand, why has Senator Clinton not made an issue out of how Senator McCain allowed that slur to stand, at one of his campaign events, while she has gone ballistic on David Shuster, who has been suspended.
February 11, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCains comment concerned her. Shuster's comment concerned her daughter.
You'll understand the difference when you have kids.
February 11, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stop hiding behind another strawman. How the hell do you know if I have kids or not, you arrogant creep!. Now go back and read what Shuster actually said. He did not attack a kid. He did not even attack the Adult Chelsey Clinton. He made a moronic and wrong comment about how the Clintons were using their daughter. Therefore he was attacking Chelsey's parents, and not Chelsey. But of course, Hillary could not leverage the outraged Mom card, if she treated the stupid comment by Shuster as an attack on her.
The Clintons have every right to have Chelsey campaign for her, so Shuster was completely wrong on every level. His choice of words was disgusting, but he never attacked Chelsey, who is not a kid, but he did attack her parents.
Hillary is now spinning it as an attack on Chelsey so she can play the mother defending her child card.
That is the real facts of what has taken place.
February 11, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
YOU asked what the difference was.
I know you don't have kids, or you would have understood the difference, you ignorant lout.
February 11, 2008 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wrong again you presumptive moron. I not only have children, I have grand children, and if that is all you got, then you should get a refund from the psychic that gave you such bad information. Considering what a moron you have turned out to be, I do now worry about the future of your kids. I hope that they can overcome you.
February 12, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are an obvious liar, liam, and a troll.
February 12, 2008 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a matter of fact, not only are you a creep, a poor liar, and a troll, you really ought to ask your parents, (those poor, long suffering people), permission before you post any more nonsense.
Here's a buck, dude, buy a clue.
I suppose at little green footballs you might pass as an adult, but here, you don't pass for human.
February 12, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
This column clearly must lead to the questions of why Hillary did not repudiate the comments of the New York chapter of NOW when they attacked Senator Kennedy. If we are going to hold politicians responsible for the free speech opinions of their supporters, then we must hold all of them to the same standard.
February 11, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
You raise an issue about John McCain's comments, but has Sen. Obama or DNC Chair Howard Dean lifted a finger to condemn the bias at MSNBC? Sen. Obama is interested in unity (only to support his "movement") and enjoys the benefits (for now) of a tilted playing field. Howard Dean has a duty to see that the debate does not go so far into the sewer as to threaten the legitimacy of the process. Why not ask THEM to condemn the pattern of bias at MSNBC (of which Shuster is a bit player)?
And, by the way, every time I hit a link at TPM I see paid advertisements for Sen. Obama. Is there any conflict of interest in accepting money from a campaign and reporting on a campaign? I don't know the answer, but am just asking the question.
February 11, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have you asked that question of all the TV and Radio outlets that have made millions on poltical ads, for decades, and still do political reporting and commentary?. Try asking The Big Fat Pillbilly since he gets paid thirty million a year for his biased commentary and runs paid political ads.
February 11, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm curious - you seem to think that Obama should condemn MSNBC's bias. Do you also think that Hillary Clinton should condemn Bill Clinton's comments?
Obviously there are differences here, but the primary difference is that Hillary is closely tied to Bill, whereas Obama is not tied to MSNBC (all jokes aside). You might complain that the MSNBC "Shuster comment" is more overly sexist than Bill Clinton's comments are racist. However, to me they both seem to me to be relying on excuses to pretend that they're not playing the cards they played. In Shuster's case, it's somewhat believable that he was not trying to use a sexual metaphor, and that he unprofessionally got drawn into the unfortunate language of "pimpin'" that has permeated mainstream entertainment. In Clinton's case, however, he very obviously was going to the racial well when he not only skipped over Edwards' win in '04, but also the candidates who won in '00, '96, and '92 and chose to invoke Jackson's wins in '88 and '84. She might have called that unfortunate, but she has not come close to calling it what it was. (Just like she has never admitted to her vote to support the war being an actual mistake - she always dances around that.)
February 12, 2008 8:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clearly, Hillary's failure to correct the comments of the New York Chapter of NOW would also fall into the category of holding candidates responsible for the free speech opinions of their supporters. We we hold someone else's candidate accountable, don't we need to hold our own to the same standard or face legitimate charges of applying a double-standard?
February 11, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Liam: Imagine that the WSJ, or the Washington Post, ran large paid McCain ads constantly, with pulsating graphics, covering all corners of its main page. Imagine that, as if on cue, they ran non-stop commentary favorable to McCain. Wouldn't the readers of the WSJ or the Post have a legitimate question? Of course they would. Just a question.
February 11, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Those ads would be on those sites, if they were not so expensive. They are not turning down such ads. You are just setting up a strawman to attack TPM with.
February 11, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word of the day: strawman
February 12, 2008 8:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
The point here is kind of silly in my opinion. Republicans routinely hurl epithets at Democratic candidates that are vile, false, and disrespectful. When our side whines about it, it is oddly enough a confirmation of the charges Republicans make about Democrats in general. What do you say we quit whining about how our people are treated (male or female) and start attacking the scum who are doing it and beating them at the polls? There's a novel idea eh?
Please, let's adjourn the pity party and go after the Republicans instead of "tsk, tsking" their unseemly, impolite and disrespectful statements. Beating their asses is the only way to shut them up.
February 11, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The point here is kind of silly in my opinion. Republicans routinely hurl epithets at Democratic candidates that are vile, false, and disrespectful. When our side whines about it, it is oddly enough a confirmation of the charges Republicans make about Democrats in general. What do you say we quit whining about how our people are treated (male or female) and start attacking the scum who are doing it and beating them at the polls? There's a novel idea eh?
Please, let's adjourn the pity party and go after the Republicans instead of "tsk, tsking" their unseemly, impolite and disrespectful statements. Beating their asses is the only way to shut them up.
February 11, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think there is a lot of derogatory, dismissive, and rude comments and actions toward women, especially toward Clinton. While McCain should have better handled the comment given him, I do not see him as have much history of disrespect to Clinton, whom he appears to generally have very cordial relations with. Now, consider instead Obama, who has been derogatory, dismissive, and rude toward Clinton, often expressly because she is a woman.
It is interesting to note that it appears to be acceptable by many, even defended, to be derogatory, dismissive, and rude to and about women. What if the same was replaced with terms of race? Bet it would quickly cease being so acceptable.
But in the end, I think these comments hurt the people expousing it and facilitating or not objecting to it. Consider what happened in New Hampshire. Remember, too, that woman make up a majority of the electorate. Should they be awakened to their majority status, woe be any candidate that crosses them.
February 11, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Obama when ask if he felt Senator Clinton was qualified to be President, said yes she is. When Senator Clinton was asked, on more that one occasion, if she felt Senator Obama was qualified to be President, she would never give an answer.
That was Senator Clinton being rude and dismissive to a US Senate Colleague, who had already stated that he felt she was qualified.
Does that bother you, and does Bill Clinton running around the country telling lies about Senator Obama, as he did again this Saturday in Louisiana.(ABC Network called him out on it) bother you, or are you only bothered by what bothers the Clintons!
February 11, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you see a difference between "she would never give an answer ..." or calling Obama N-er?
February 11, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course there's a difference. Are you suggesting that Obama did something similar or are you conflating McCain (technically, what someone said to McCain) with Obama?
When, if ever, has Obama insulted Clinton, either with respect to her sex or even in general?
February 11, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Matthew Weaver:
Now, consider instead Obama, who has been derogatory, dismissive, and rude toward Clinton, often expressly because she is a woman.
Any examples Matthew? Or is slinging accusations easier?
February 11, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
It looks like that majority of people here also have the same question: "how are we going to beat that bitch?"
February 11, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
RS, you're a Republican troll. It's tiresome.
Liam, if I give you a dollar will you buy a clue.
As for McCain, well gee whiz. As far as I'm concerned, he shouldn't apologize for anything. We should encourage him to let himself go. Go wild John, give voice to your innermost thoughts. Let America see what you're really like.
February 11, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
You should use it to buy a clue for yourself, since you clearly do not have one, when it comes to the topic at hand.
Hillary has never complained about why McCain allowed his support to call Hillery "The Bitch" at his own rally, and what he said about Janet Reno and Chelsey. Why is Hillary not outraged by that, but she is outraged that David Shuster said that it looked like she was acting like a pimp.
February 12, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think that this crosses the line and should not be allowed to be posted on TPM cafe. It should be deleted.
February 12, 2008 1:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Andrew,
I think you are right. Valdron flies in seemingly to cause the most resentment and divisiveness possible. That is the sort of thing a professional troll would do. Commit false flag attacks and attempt to cause civil war at every possible cleavage point in the opposition. Valdron should be monitored but the jury is still out.
On the other hand, Valdron showed that she is at least occasionally capable of some self control when she posted a researched half-decent comment on one of the other "misogyny" threads yesterday.
Valdron, I appreciated your at least partially successful effort to be civil. It is that type of post that will be remembered and allow you to be persuasive.
Please do it again some time.
Peace,
JF
February 12, 2008 2:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Quit being a ninny.
Valdron has a long and distinguished history as a poster here, unlike you.
What exactly was so offensive? His pot was hardly as offensive as the post that appeared directly above his.
If you're going to complain, try complaining about that.
February 12, 2008 8:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ruth,
I believe you are addicted to the word misogyny. I wonder if you have forgotten its definition.
You are right in that there are to many insulting labels going around in this election (not just "misogynist").
I think you have tapped into a valid point about McCain. While I don't think anything I have seen him accused of doing or saying could remotely be considered as hatred for women. He has in both word and deed shown his character to be vindictive and stunningly callous to the infliction of human suffering. His joke about Chelsea was unconscionable (cruel, mean spirited and disgusting).
He seems to have no empathy or compassion for those he has made to suffer. No remorse. No conscience for constantly advocating for more mass murder and the infliction of horrific suffering on those that pose not threat to us nor wish us any harm. Though the press gave him credit for his bill to ban torture. He allowed the bill to be sabotaged with amendments making it worse than no bill causing torture with impunity the de Facto law of the land and the continued use of false confessions through torture to fabricate pretense for more war and atrocities. He said nothing when the bill was flipped to the dark side and still accepted credit as if torture had been banned. Over and over he has show not only disastrous judgment in the are of national security and foreign policy but now openly poses with and supports Rapturists who want to use war to produce another holocaust to hasten the arrival of Armageddon. He has promised more judges like Alito.
There has never been a more dangerous or morally corrupted presidential candidate than John McCain.
As Pat Buchanan said, he would "make Bush look like Gandhi".
He owes not only a profound apology to Clintons and his country. He owes this country his resignation and he owes several other countries and many millions of suffering and disabled Afghan and Iraqi people not only his profound apology but the dedication of the rest of his life to trying to undo some of the harm he has done.
Peace,
JF
February 12, 2008 3:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Calling a woman Bithc is not mysogynistic. We have gender specific insults. We call men bastards or SOB's and women bitches when we wish to insult them. This is no more mysogynistic than refering to female siblings as sisters and male siblings as brothers. Put down your misplaced sense of outrage. It is unbecoming, and makes you look less than serious.
February 12, 2008 4:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Although I can appreciate your point, the difference between b**** and bastard is similar to the difference between n***** and honky - and for much the same reason.
February 12, 2008 8:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gimme a break. So the woman using the word "bitch" was not a misogynist. But McCain's failure to play the patriarch and tell "that woman" that her speech was unacceptable to him and she should conform to his idea of what is acceptable is proof of his sexism! You have to be joking.
BTW, neither John McCain nor any other candidate has a responsibility to be scolding intemperate remarks from the crowd.
February 12, 2008 8:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
He laughed at the fact that his supporter called Hillery "The Bitch". Hillary has not complained about it, but she is still complaining about the guy who said that it looked like she was acting like a pimp. Keep in mind she keeps telling us about how she will be a much tougher fighter against McCain. No wonder McCain laughed. He knows that she is a pushover. She still does not believe that her vote to authorize the Invasion of Iraq was a reckless and catastrophic mistake, and John McCain and George Bush stilll agree with her on that.
Hillary talks tough but voted on Iraq, and Iran the way Bush and McCain wanted.
February 12, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's her child, dipstick, not A child, HER child.
Thanks for proving that you are not only a vicious, lying, zealot, but that you have the intelligence of an amoeba.
Go back to your fellow freepers and get one with some semblance of intelligence to post here.
Thank you.
February 12, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain knows his audience. It's futile to try to get him to apologize -- in fact, let's get him to keep it up. If he's against Clinton in November, what would happen if most women voters are pissed at him?
February 12, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are a liar and a creep.
February 12, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink