Why would a feminist vote for Obama?
Some people are stunned that I have already voted for Barack Obama and that I signed a "Feminists for Obama" statement which now includes over a thousand rather distinguished names. They know I've been involved in the women's movement since 1967 and have spent my life teaching and writing about the history of women and gender ever since. So why, they ask, didn't I cast a vote for Hillary Clinton?
Am I filled with self-hatred as a woman? No. In fact, there is nothing I'd rather do than vote for the first female presidential candidate. I still remember hearing--on a remote Greek island--that the Democratic party had chosen Geraldine Ferraro as a vice-presidential candidate. To my great surprise, tears flooded my face.
So why haven't I cast this historic vote?
The reasons are not all that complicated. Before I was a feminist, I worked in the civil rights and anti-war movements. Supporting Obama fits those life-long commitments. In my opinion, both Democratic hopefuls are able, smart, qualified candidates. But here are my concerns about Hillary Clinton. She talks about the poor, yet when Congress addressed the re authorization of TANF, which replaced welfare, most Democrats wanted to keep the 30 hour limit for working mothers so that they could use the rest of their time for education and training. The Bush administration, in its typically punitive manner, demanded that these women work 40 hours. Clinton split the difference and advocated 35 hours.
Denying poor women the possibility of upward mobility is just not my brand of feminism.
Then there is this insane war. Even today, Clinton shows little passion for ending the war in Iraq, even if you ignore her earlier votes.
Finally, there is Bill Clinton. During his last term, he squandered a huge amount of political capital as a result of his reckless behavior. I am genuinely afraid that revelations about recent sexual or business scandals may sabotage Hillary's candidacy and/or her presidency. I am unwilling to watch Democratic capital squandered by him one more time.
If Hillary Clinton should end up being the Democratic presidential candidate, I will certainly vote for her. But all these reservations and worries won't go away when and if I have the chance to vote for the first woman president.




















. . . --on a remote Greek island-- . . . .
Tell me you weren't on a nude beach!
February 5, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Media Bias towards Obama is just making me vomit. Why not just plant a crown on his big arse head and get it over with.
Hillary has the most experience, compassion, ability; not that any of that matters. I have found that the biggest Misogynist in the U.S.A. are WOMEN. Way to make it happen Ladies Congratulations JOB WELL DONE. How you must disgust your mothers!
Hillary - You were robbed vy a disgraced media and Jealous young women who will one day get the message of Family first.
Davyd In LA.
February 5, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Media bias? She's an academic and an opinion journalist. She's not supposed to be "unbiased." In fact, it's her job to have opinions.
February 5, 2008 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Be prepared Andrew. Link the sites, and you'll of course get the Election Central crazies, zealots, hyperbolists (if that's a word) and trolls here.
February 5, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You have many valid issues here, but none of these calculations derive from feminism.
Your argument is essentially, feminism itself is not as important to me as these other issues.
If feminism is less important than these other issues you should not catagorize your decision as having a feminist basis.
The title should reflect the fact you are putting this banner down, rather than describing your arguement as if it is coming from a feminist movement orgins.
February 5, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ruth,
Being anti-war ought to mean being anti-Obama. I refer you to this link (be forewarned, it's a conservative blog): http://ex-donkey.mu.nu/archives/166079.php. I point out this statement it quotes: "'I am absolutely certain Connecticut is going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the U.S. Senate so he can continue to serve on our behalf,"' he said."
And what did Lieberman think was in the best interests of our country? According to Wikipedia: "Lieberman has been one of the Senate's strongest advocates for continued prosecution of the Iraq War." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman
Saying the Hillary's compromise for working women means she's not your kind of feminist isn't very damning. In fact, it shows she can negotiate with hostile legislators, something Obama has never shown any interest in doing with all his "present" votes.
Hillary has done more good for this country than Obama ever has. I'm from Illinois. I know first-hand how lazy a legislator he is.
February 5, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Davyd - Let's not replace one simplistic thought with another. I am startled by the idea that comes up fairly frequently these days - that because a woman is running other women will vote for her automatically. For me and women I've talked to, it's not a contradiction to be thrilled to see a woman running a viable, strong campaign for president, and at the exact same moment feel like someone else is a better fit for that office. That doesn't mean I am a self-hating woman. It means I'm a thinking individual.
February 5, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some of the HRC backers need to remember one thing -- it isn't even close to "feminist" to tell women they have to vote for a female candidate.
My girlfriend is a women's studies major who considers herself a feminist, has actively worked in the pro-choice movement and supports Obama.
And she feels very insulted by anyone who says she should support Hillary because she's a woman.
February 5, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
When you pull the lever for a candidate and are not concerned about gender in the least, only THEN will you have achieved a sex-blind society which should be the feminist ideal. It's telling that HRC actively promotes her campaign as "change" because she would be a woman president, while in Obama's campaign stresses that "change" is a break from the past -- something that is both gender and race neutral.
Voting for a candidate simply because she is a woman is no different than saying you would never vote for a candidate because she is a woman.
Thank you for pointing out that feminists need not support HRC as a knee-jerk reaction.
February 5, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey...I'm a mother, a grandmother, and a great gradmother. And I just voted for Obama.
About Hillary and compassion...please ck this out:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rees/clinton-obama-and-clust_b_84811.html
(TPM: why haven't you explored this?)
February 5, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Josh - Who said that? It's this doofus Rosen who's "playing the feminist card".
February 5, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ruth,
Thankyou. A lot of us men, who are totally with you on all things feminist, have the same thoughts and feelings. A more enlightened era means we can NOT vote for an otherwise qualified woman because of something as fundamental as support for an illegal and immoral war. This issue has no gender.
February 5, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
From smacfarl:
Your argument is essentially, feminism itself is not as important to me as these other issues.
Doesn't that depend on how one defines feminism? Are all women inherently more supportive of feminist causes than all men?
February 5, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Feminism would be opposed to the "dictatorship" of the vote, e.g. only vote for the woman. That would be silly.
The writer has not laid out "feminist reasons" for her choice. She simply has explained why she'd like to vote for a woman in principle but has chosen Barak at this time as a practical matter, based upon a well laid out series of arguments IMHO.
Seems that some are attacking the writer, rather than disagreeing with the arguments presented.
February 5, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
You give a number of reasons why you decided not to vote for Hillary out of gender loyalty but little reason for supporting Obama other than your previous civil rights and anti-war beliefs. Your concerns about Bill as a liability and Hillary's pro-war stance is certainly understandable. The question that comes to my mind is: are there any substantive reasons for you or the rest of us, as progressive/liberal Democrats, for supporting either Obama or Clinton beyond that they are the remaining choices and that one is the first viable woman and the other is the first viable African-American candidate for President? The question is not intended at all as snark. I'm quite serious.
Their positions on the issues are nearly identical and fall squarely in the center of the spectrum, though you do rightly criticze Clinton for her unconscionable position on the illegal/immoral war against the Iraqi people. That is the biggest distinction between them really when it comes to issues, but mostly, I believe, a distinction that exists when it comes to their pre-war positions.
She is wrongly, even inexcusably unrepentant about her support for the war and her excuses are obviously designed to obfuscate her culpability in that morally indefensible act of aggression. Her support for the "Attack Iran" Kyl-Lieberman amendment confirms she learned nothing from the Iraq blunder. Nonetheless, I think the Clinton crowd rightly points out that since coming to DC, Obama's voting record is nearly identical to hers when it comes to the Iraq war if not completely identical to hers.
Seems to me anyone truly interested in seeing all people who need some assistance and opportunity in this nation, regardless of any demographic marker (race, gender, income, etc.), and anyone who wants to see the expansion of social and economic equality/opportunity across the board, as well as a reversal of the genuinely dangerous pro-war American stance toward the world would have to have qualms about supporting either one of these very typical, mainstream, corporate Democrats for President.
One wonders how it is that so many liberal and progressive Democrats, who not long ago were screaming for a genuinely liberal direction for the nation once we break free of the Bush regime, can justify having so easily abandoned their strongly held positions to settle for the centrist policies of these two politicians. Personally, I can see no reason for all the "irrational exhuberance" over either of them.
February 5, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
The GOP controlled congress when TANF was reauthorized. If you think there was a shot in hell of keeping 30 hours, you are living on another planet. Hillary actually did pretty well to get the 35 hour compromise, as it looked for a while like 40 hours was a real possibility.
This is such standard politics, and Hillary did the very obvious thing given the circumstances. I find it hard to believe that this is really your primary obstacle to voting for her.
I also find your war argument unconvincing. Their policies are the same, but you don't think she's passionate enough about ending the war? And the level of her passion is a dealbreaker? Wow.
I think its kind of dumb for anybody to assume that feminists have to vote for Hillary. Likewise, despite being a Hillary supporter I can see plenty of good arguments for Obama.
But these are some of the most unconvincing arguments I've seen for some time.
February 5, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
My girlfriend is a women's studies major who considers herself a feminist, has actively worked in the pro-choice movement and supports Obama.
And she feels very insulted by anyone who says she should support Hillary because she's a woman.Yeah, well, so am I. And I feel equally insulted by the whole premise underlying this post. What? Ruth Rosen doesn't feel she has to vote for Hillary just because she's a feminist? So? I suppose the title is merely meant to intice people to read it and that reason for writing it is to present a feminist point of view in reagards to certain issues. But I don't get the whole Bill Clinton thing. I'm not getting why a fellow feminist imagines that Hillary is responsible for Bill's reckless behavior. I don't see that as a particularly feminist perspective.
February 5, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
None of us determined which gender we would be born, so it is absurd to vote for only the person who has similar genitalia to one's own. Vote for the person,and not just their plug and play parts. Neither you nor they designed or selected them.
February 5, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think of Obama supporters as "don't confuse me with the facts" people. They want to believe in him, even though he's been caught lying, making deals with people under indictment, not working for his constituents, unrepently supporting a war monger, and blaming Congress for authorized the invasion of Iraq when we all know that the majority of Americans wanted revenge.
Give me some substantive differences and get off the Clinton memes about Bill and her war vote.
February 5, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary did vote for the Iraq War, and she recently voted for the Kyl/Lieberman Green Light to attack Iran resolution, so try dealing with the truth about Hillary, instead of telling us not to talk about it.
February 5, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please don't confuse your lack of intelligent research with the truth, OK? It's fine with me if you want to believe a bunch of lies about Obama and cast your vote in smug ignorance. Just don't blame us if Hillary gets the nomination and gets her ass kicked by McCain.
February 5, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Personally, I find it more than just a little disturbing that you feel the need to explain yourself at all. We like to think we're beyond the pettiness of racism and genderism, and yet both have reared their ugly, prehistoric heads over and over during this campaign.
Bill Clinton recently said, "I think it would be just as much a change, and some people think more, to have the first woman president as to have the first African-American president." For me, that pretty much sums up the ignorant bigot view in a nutshell. If he's suggesting anything other than his belief that a woman is better than a negro, I'd like to hear what it is he meant to say.
The goal, among those with an agenda, is always the same: divide and conquer. They want to split the whites from the blacks, the men from the women and the "real" feminists from the "phony" feminists who would dare to vote their heart or their principles over their genitalia. They're trying to shame you and trap you by reminding you that you're a woman first and a human being second.
In their zeal to elevate someone with breasts into the Oval Office, they have hypocritically and carelessly cast themselves and those around them into boxes. You're either with them, or you're against them. Divide and conquer. What they're attempting to do to you is the female version of calling you an Oreo cookie. Shame on you for abandoning the gender, you man-lover, you.
So maybe they've succeeded in making you feel a little guilty. But if they have, then please ignore them, because THEY are the ones who have abandoned their principles. They are the ones who are attempting to subvert the primary goal of the feminism by accusing you of being a person instead of a woman. They are the ones who have set equality aside in favor of some sexist goal they believe is better: WOMEN'S equality. They haven't yet grown to realize that there is no goal higher than plain equality--without any limits, designations, sexual or racial biases, or any of the other stupid limitations people would put on simple equality.
It warms my heart to see so many Americans so willing to take a chance on believing. On hope. On casting their lot with someone who offers us something better--the ability to lift each other out of the hole we've carelessly dug for ourselves. So vote for Obama with pride, dear person. You are doing more to put an end to stupidity than they could ever understand.
PS: If I, as a white male, was ever asked to explain why I'm supporting a black man instead of a white woman in this election, I'm afraid I'd be far less tolerant than you. They'd be telling it to the finger pretty darn quick.
February 5, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think that any feminist or civil rights activist should feel it necessary to have to "explain their vote" but since you offered -- penalizing Hillary for some unknown scandal about either Bill's personal or sexual life is pretty weak. You're basically accusing him of unethical business dealings without any sort of evidence. Too bad since through his Global Initiative he's done more for the poor then you ever will. As for your unfounded allegations about his sex life... grow up.
It's pretty sad that you went there. Completely undermined an otherwise quality post.
February 5, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is married to "Bimbo Eruptions" Bill. It was his own campaign staff, Betsy Wright in particular, who named them "Bimbo Eruptions". Bill Clinton is a serial sexual predator, and Hillary has enabled him.
She was aware of his conduct, and even went on 60 Minutes with him to deflect the news about his mistress having revealed his conduct, so of course Hillary did the same thing when the Monica affair broke. Not the hallmark of a self respecting strong Woman, as far as I am concerned.
February 5, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh no, having sex with women does not make a man a "sexual predator."
February 5, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for letting us know your race and gender, hrebendorf. I guess you haven't gotten over those kneejerk, prehistoric impulses either.
February 5, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
My 68-year old feminist mother wrote this:
I made up my mind to vote for Barack Obama at a rally for him in New Hampshire, which we attended with our daughter and her young children. Previously, I had said that my heart wanted to vote for the transformative Obama, but I wasn’t sure about his electability. I had considered, as a woman, supporting Hillary Clinton, even though I didn’t feel compelled by her candidacy, personally. I felt most aligned with the policies of John Edwards.
On a sunny day in New Hampshire, following a huge snowstorm, we stood in line with thousands of others, waiting to get into the gym at Concord High School. We had been early, so were relatively near the front of the line. The crowd grew and the line snaked to a continually receding point far away, This was a civic coming together that I had not experienced since the days of civil rights, peace and anti-nuclear rallies years ago. It felt as if people—these mannerly New Hampshire voters of all ages—had, like us, been watching the events of recent years with quiet desperation at our seeming inability to effect change in the policies of our government, and had finally sensed a way to say we are a better people and a better country than we have seemed to be.
Inside, amidst the signs, the Secret Service, the cameras, the managers, the roped off pathways, and the buoyant crowd, anticipation grew. We were happy to share so colorful an event, especially one that is part of the nation’s political process, with our granddaughters. And then Barack Obama began to speak, urging us to overcome the naysayers, to vote as our best selves, to move toward the future as we wish it to be. Looking over, I saw that my husband had tears running down his cheeks. “Why is Grampa crying?” asked one of our granddaughters. “Because this is the way it’s supposed to be and what we wish for you”, I said. And that is when I made up my mind.
February 5, 2008 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, the supposed lack of passion on ending the war is not the main point. Read between the lines. The big problem is that Clinton voted for the war. Moreover, she claims she was duped by the president. Well, other people weren't duped, and you cant use that as an excuse when your opponent clearly was not.
February 5, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wasn't duped. I knew exactly what Bush was up to. So how come so many supposedly smart people like Hillary voted so stupidly? I don't think she was duped. I think she's lying.
February 5, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Precisely. Further more, she often remarks about what a poor President George W. has been, so she is actually claiming that when she vote for his Iraq War ,she was Duped by a Dope!
February 5, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, liam, I hadn't thought about it that way before, but it IS pretty pathetic to admit that you were fooled by a moron like Bush. :o)
February 5, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
See what I mean? Don't confuse me with the facts. Obama, Obama, O'Bama (he endorsed Machine Gun Richard M. Daley, too).
February 5, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ferdy: see the little "Reply" link under your post? It's a lot clearer who you're talking to if you click that before you reply.
It's not my job to do the research for you Ferdy. It's yours. And clearly, you haven't done it. But please--the demographics say that Obama's supporters tend to be better educated than Hillary's supporters. Could you try, just for this election, to break out of the mold?
February 5, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now you are really sounding pathetic and desperate. Richard M. Daly keeps getting elected by more than 70 percent of the voters in one of the most liberal big cities in the USA.
Hillary endorse George W. Bush' Iraq Follies. Deal with it.
February 5, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here, Ferdy--educate yourself:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/03/obama200803?printable=true¤tPage=all
February 5, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why is it that some feel it necessary to insult those with whom they disagree?
Those who call those with whom they disagree idiots - meet Lou Dobbs and what's his name Beck.
Those of you who say you'll vote republican if your candidate is not nominated - meet Ann Coulter.
Come on. Get real. Relax and take a few deep breaths, the democratic nomination campaign will go on through the convention.
February 5, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary gets the nomination, I will still vote for Obama. I never planned to vote for Hillary in the first place. There was never even the slightest chance. Before Obama announced his candidacy, I was actually thinking I would have to sit this one out or write in Al Gore. I was so relieved when Obama got in the race.
February 5, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reality Check:
To this very day, Hillary Clinton does not feel that her vote to authorize the War against Iraq was a mistake, and to this very day, George W. Bush agrees with her on that.
February 5, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary has been running to the right since she was elected to the Senate. Republicans set the bar on political action and she either agrees (attack iran) or barely nudges the conversation a tad to the left (35 hours). As long as Democrats act like kinder, gentler Republicans, this country will continue its long slide to the right. We need bold actions to turn this ship around, not more triangulation and capitulations to Republican talking points.
February 5, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I did something that may be more unusual than I thought it would be when I was making a decision on whom I'd vote for in the primary: I read the platforms and then tried to track how well the candidates adhered to their visions in the debates and when pushed to adopt more "moderate" stances.
I actually laughed as myself when I decided that of the remaining candidates (it was four at the time), the white Southern guy seemed to have the most progressive platform and consistent adherence. It was pretty funny with the other three being black, Mexican, and female, especially when I'd happily voted for candidates from all those groups (and more) in other elections for other offices.
But that's how it was. And even if it's contrary to conventional wisdom, I'm not going to second guess who's got the best chance of beating McCain, Romney, or whatever unpalatable candidate the Republicans come up with. I'm going back to the platforms and I'm going to do some comparing and contrasting. And then I'll decide whom I think has the best vision and course for saving the rest of us from the muck and mire of this administration.
I realize I'm probably coming off as sanctimonious. But I look at this simply, and maybe simplistically. I gotta know I'm voting for someone whose policies I can believe in.
February 5, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
To connect Barack with the Civil Rights Movement is bizarre. He certainly is a benefactor of it, but he is neither African American in the historical sense relative to slavery - he's Kenyan American - nor, as a self-declared 'color blind' candidate, does he identify with that movement is relevant today. To wit, his hands off of the Jena 6 affair. On close look, Obama's anti-war credentials are extremely limited. Overall, he's actually a touch more conservative than Clinton, especially on health care. Which speaks tons to the political consciousness of all those who are looking to him for "hope."
February 5, 2008 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
i hope people wake up and vote their minds and look at the issues.....candidates records....experience.....and their ability to run a government......the media gave us george bush.....the media gave us the war ......and now they are trying to shove an inexperienced...great speaker that says nothing and is probably a bigger con artist than BUSH......the media thinks we are all IDIOTS... dont prove them right
February 5, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I sure don't consider everyone who voted for Margaret Thatcher a feminist. I do not consider everyone who votes against Hillary Clinton an anti-feminist.
February 5, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm extremely troubled by the feminist that cites Bill Clinton's infidelity as a reason to vote against his wife.
February 5, 2008 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with Ms. Rosen and am extremely troubled by Democrats who seem willing to risk watching Bill once again recklessly squander our hard-earned political capital. I knocked doors in Altadena for him in '92 and what did I get in return? Now all these years later I'm supposed to "roll the dice" and believe
this:
The senator was asked a question from a Politico.com reader in Santa Monica, Calif., who was seeking assurance that "no new business or personal scandal involving Bill Clinton" could erupt if she were in the White House and give fodder to Republicans.
"You know, I can assure this reader that that is not going to happen," she said. "You know, none of us can predict the future, no matter who we are and what we are running for, but I am very confident that that will not happen."
Apparently, Senator Clinton, you're confident, but not so very confident that you don't feel it necessary to qualify your assurances ...
Please, go ahead, lay out your prediction for the future. Is he gonna behave? Not all of us are married to the guy, so we'd be glad to get your inside take on this. Or is that the best you can do? No predictions, but a high level of confidence? If so, oh crap.
February 12, 2008 12:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Um, maybe she didn't realize *then* what an awful president he would be?
I did. I knew before he even set foot in office that he was this country's biggest mistake, but a lot of people, many of whom were perfectly intelligent, seemed convinced that Bush was *cough* a transformative president, unifying America after 9-11.
February 5, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Twirling Fartknocker,
I completely agree with what you wrote:
"Hillary has been running to the right since she was elected to the Senate. Republicans set the bar on political action and she either agrees (attack iran) or barely nudges the conversation a tad to the left (35 hours). As long as Democrats act like kinder, gentler Republicans, this country will continue its long slide to the right. We need bold actions to turn this ship around, not more triangulation and capitulations to Republican talking points."
Given that what you say is true, where do we now find a candidate to vote for since neither Obama nor Clinton fits the bill you describe?
February 5, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
can some feminist please Please PLEASE explain to me why you all are on Hilary's side? From what I know about feminists, you are all quite admirably in favor of strength amongst females and transcending gender gaps. So therefore, the notion of a female being president obviously fits well into your feminist agenda.
But is Hilary the right female?
How can feminists support a woman who clearly stayed with her cheating husband because it was politically convenient...in other words, because she wanted to keep his last name.
Bill didn't just "slip up" with Monica. It was just the straw that broke the news cycle's back that represented a patter of behavior. Jeniffer Flowers, Paula Jones, and countless other females slept with Bill while he was married to the feminist hero in Hilary.
I'm seriously not trying to be combative. I'm just wondering if, other than her being a woman, someone could PRETTY PLEASE explain to me how her past behavior with her unfaithful husband embodies any feminist ideals?
February 6, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
The issues here are complex and not easily sorted out. It does sadden me to see so much polarization-both Hilary and Barack are for change, both are working to bring it about, both offer vision and it is a true 'delight' to be living in a time where we will have to choose between two such candidates. What worries me most is the pitting of youth against elders (age-ism), of denial of the hard fought battles that get reduced to "tradition", of the lack of true understanding of the complexities of systemic discrimination and oppression and the necessities for working in a plethora of ways to end it. Of course, Ruth, you aren't full of self hatred for not voting for Hilary, any more than those who are of communities of color are for voting for Hilary. Both offer us so much.
February 7, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink