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There are really too many states. My head hurts from trying to keep track of all of this.
Help me.
Update: By the way, anyone able to find any data on Ken's "Security Vote"? If you haven't read the post, it's worth checking out. He basically argues that we should look out for Dem performance in the suburban areas around NYC where 9/11 led to big gains for the GOP. Progress there would mean progress in rolling back the Fear Vote.
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Eyes on Connecticut. . Obama 50-47, 54% reporting
February 5, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with Andrew. I will help him reduce the number of states.
Any state with a literacy rate below 85% is out.
February 5, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure that helps much...
February 5, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama gets CT, he's headed toward carrying at least half of the states.
What really matter, though, are the sizes of the various leads. We need a network to start doing some delegate
February 5, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have total counts based on current percentages at c. 542 Obama, c. 552 Clinton.
February 5, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Watching McCain, Huckabee, and Romney fighting this out... LOL
Mit won Utah and they didn't bother to count the votes.
February 5, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
TUnderwood has it right...
DE is a state.. but not large in delegates
February 5, 2008 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey all, I know everybody's saying that only delegates matter and that's right of course. But could this get so close that our nominee might not get a plurality of the popular vote? Won't that tick a lot of people off? Or does that happen all the time?
February 5, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or... we could discuss that in Ed Kilgore's thread down below. Sorry!
February 5, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huckabee is talking. Something about razorbacks and cotton bowls.
I have no idea what he's saying.
February 5, 2008 10:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's so folksy he's confusing.
February 5, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Razorbacks and cotton bowls? Is he ordering tapas?
February 5, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Huckabee doesn't strike me as the ethnic food type.
February 5, 2008 10:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
so far zogby is looking like the goat... again...
February 5, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's exactly right. Not looking good for the Zog.
February 5, 2008 10:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
PS, off topic, but...profiles are still broken. Not for everyone, though. Weird.
February 5, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
NBC: Kansas, Obama. Kicks ass there.
February 5, 2008 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
ABC News updated delegate count.
Clinton 450
Obama 397
This call and response in Mittville is hilarious.
February 5, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
link?
February 5, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/delegates
February 5, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks.
February 5, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://lowonlow.wordpress.com/files/2008/02/picture-19.png
With the updated results on the TMP homepage, I've got C-595, O-626.
It's the Excel chart on the left. It's not pretty I know.
February 5, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
How do you get the screen to display so well? The State counts always looks so scrunched on mine. I have 1280x1024 res.
February 5, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just the default size 1440x900 on my MacBook Pro. Macs generally resolve fonts better than PCs, which might be the difference. Try using "ClearType" on Win if that's your system. Otherwise, if you're on a Mac, you could increase the resolution.
February 5, 2008 10:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
When Huckabee was referring to "Razorbacks" and "Cotton Bowls" he was talking about down south college football. I believe he pulled out "Roll Tide" referring to the Crimson Tide of Alabama.
Pig Sooey (sp?) is the chant of U. of Arkansas.
February 5, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, it sounded like sportspeak...
February 5, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huckabee is talking about his distant ancestors. He doesn't like the concept of apes.
Jan (CVille Dem)
February 5, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
WEll, I tried 3 times to make a comment and each time I got thrown off the site, so I guess I'll just turn this into a complaint about the aggravation of trying to participate in good faith to this freaking thread! Now I've forgotten what I was saying in the first place, but this probably won't get posted anyway.
I am getting enormously frustrated!
Jan
February 5, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just got bounced off, too.
February 5, 2008 11:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSNBC: CA -- polls closed, too close to call.
February 5, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Could Minnesota be Obama's biggest win?
February 5, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why?
February 5, 2008 11:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
In the early return states, which had either few or many delegates i.e. Delaware or New York, they have generally gone strongly in one direction or the other, for Obama or Clinton. And the delegate count between them has remained fairly close because of it. By picking up medium sized states by wide margins, such as the spread in Minnesota and Colorado, Obama might be able to outpace Clinton in the delegate count, if California ends up close.
February 5, 2008 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Makes sense. Thanks.
February 5, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
More Huckabee on MSNBC...
Obama to speak at 11:15ET, so says NPR.
February 5, 2008 11:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
California exit polls seem to lean Hillary
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#CADEM
February 5, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's interesting, from my cursory glance, is that the Edwards folks (myself included) tended to swing Obama.
February 5, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
How crucial do you think Edwards' 41 delegates will end up being?
February 5, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
In terms of the convention, not so much. If Edwards endorses or seems to be leaning in that direction, who knows? It couldn't hurt.
February 5, 2008 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jim Lehrer report Democratic Delegates
Clinton 289
Obama 230
February 5, 2008 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Matt Y says Bill Richardson looks like a Klingon with his new beard.
Can't say I disagree.
February 5, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you think he'll shave before he gets the Veep nod? After?
February 5, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy, I hope neither. We need more bearded elected officials.
February 5, 2008 11:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is anyone still drinking coffee tonight?
February 5, 2008 11:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here the my newest delegate count with a reply to Steven. Seems IL was biggest pts. win for Obama.
http://lowonlow.wordpress.com/files/2008/02/picture-20.png
February 5, 2008 11:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSNBC cuts from McCain to Obama -- a clear sign they're biased!!!
February 5, 2008 11:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is bourbon a coffee?
February 6, 2008 12:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, she has New York and California now. Obama should concede. Those are the trendsetter states.
February 6, 2008 12:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Concede what though? The night? I mean - they are still only 20 delegates apart in my book. That probably won't change again tonight, but it certainly will, for better or for worse for each campaign as they see it, over the coming weeks/months.
February 6, 2008 12:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I was kidding and you know it.
He should still concede something.
February 6, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
That I should have another drink? I'll drink to that...
February 6, 2008 1:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
My last tally:
http://lowonlow.wordpress.com/files/2008/02/picture-21.png
Blue rows are states that have essentially closed; red is otherwise. Green's somewhere in between.
My personal opinion is that Obama may come out ahead by a hair. CA could still break more to him resulting in more delegates total, but who knows.
February 6, 2008 1:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
The polls in Alameda county were ordered to stay open until 10pm, because many polling stations ran out of ballots.
I think my mom is the only one in Oakland who voted for Clinton. I don't know how much help we'll be, but virtually everyone in my immediate part of town voted for Obama.
February 6, 2008 3:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
My posts appeared in the thread, but have now disappeared. wtf?
February 6, 2008 5:02 AM | Reply | Permalink