Cheney Keeps Pushing High Fear Monarchy
A government that spies on its citizens, on Americans, without oversight is not democracy; it is tyranny. And yet this is what the Bush administration continues to try and do.
In yet another installment of high-fear politicking, Vice President Richard Cheney, lobbying for the passage of new FISA legislation, spoke at the Heritage Foundation today -- obviously speaking to a room filled with folks who mostly agree with him rather than venturing forth to talk to those who don't.
From Cheney's speech:
Under President Bush's leadership, after September 11th, the government made some difficult choices.One of these was to stop treating terrorist attacks as criminal matters -- where you find out what happened, arrest the bad guys, put them in jail, and move on. The world changed when a coordinated attack ended the lives of 3,000 Americans and turned 16 acres of New York City to ashes. As the President has made clear many times, we are dealing with a strategic threat to the United States. We are at war with an enemy that wants to cause mass death inside the United States. And we must act systematically and decisively until this enemy is destroyed.
The terrorists waging war against this country don't fight according to the rules of warfare, or international law, or moral standards, or basic humanity. And we have to be clear-eyed about the character and objective of these adversaries. They have a strategic goal to recreate the old seventh-century caliphate -- an empire stretching from Europe through the Middle East, all the way around to Southeast Asia. They want to arm themselves with chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons -- and they would not hesitate to use such weapons.
Their tactics, of course, are familiar to all the world: hijackings like those of 9/11, suicide attacks, car bombs, beheadings, messages of violence and hatred on the Internet. Their method is plain; is to plan in secret, and to proceed by stealth, so that we won't know what they're up to until a moment of sudden, catastrophic violence.
To wage this fight we have to marshal our resources to go after the terrorists, to shut down their training camps, to take down their networks, deny them sanctuary, disrupt their funding sources, and bring them to justice. We've taken necessary steps, as well, to go after the sponsors of terror, and to confront those who might provide these killers with more deadly capabilities. And because some of the early battlefields of the war have been right here in the United States, we have taken vital actions to defend the homeland against future attacks.
Among the most effective weapons against terrorism is good intelligence -- information that helps us figure out the movements of the enemy, the extent of their operation, the location of their cells, the plans that they're making, the methods they use, and the targets that they want to strike. Information of this kind is also the very hardest to obtain. But it's worth the effort in terms of the plots that are averted and the lives that are saved.
The best source of that information is, of course, the terrorists themselves. So our government has taken careful but urgent steps to monitor the communications of enemies at large, and to get information out of the ones that we've captured. The military has interrogated terrorists held at Guantanamo Bay. In addition, a small number of terrorists, high-value targets held overseas, have gone through a tougher interrogation program run by the CIA. These include Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11.
The Soviet Union used the threat of internal sedition to justify all kinds of horrendous big brother strategies for spying on its people and justifying abusive government power. Cheney is doing the same and calling it patriotism.
As my Japanese politics professor, Hans Baerwald, taught me long ago -- the norms of a political system can't really be assessed without observing that system under shock, or under stress. And America has been under stress -- not only from 9/11 but from the purposeful manipulation of the country in a high-fear politics used to justify anything the Executive Branch wants.
And overall, America is not doing well on the issue of showing that democratic norms and America's system of justice, liberty, and checks and balance can weather shocks and stress.
Cheney wryly notes in his speech that Benjamin Franklin "believed that the vice presidency was entirely unnecessary" and that "[Franklin] said that if the office were to be created, anyone who served as Vice President should be addressed as 'Your Superfluous Excellency.'"
Dick Cheney has made the Vice President's office structurally powerful -- and the next holder of that position will be endowed with legal powers and tools that Cheney's predecessors did not have -- and thus Franklin's assessment of the office has been over taken by events and the challenges of American government today.
However, it is also important to note that Benjamin Franklin, after leaving Philadelphia's Independence Hall after signing the Constitution, was asked by a citizen:
"Dr. Franklin, what kind of government did you give us? A monarchy or a republic?" Franklin's response was: "A republic, if you can keep it!"
I wonder what Cheney would say leaving the Heritage Foundation today, if he were to give an honest assessment. . ."Vice President Cheney -- what have you wrought? A monarchy or a republic?"
-- Steve Clemons publishes the popular political blog, The Washington Note











Comments (28)
As long as these corrupt poltroons are permitted the conceit of a "wartime" footing, all advocates of a reasoned respect for liberty will be forensically outflanked.
It is precisely because of the value of (accurate) "intelligence" that the "law enforcement" model must trump the "wartime" (read:vigilante) model of response to terrorism.
January 23, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheney:
Actually, can we please go back to that?
January 23, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, we never left it.
I believe all the so-called terrorists who have seen any punishment (other than the indefinite imprisonment at Guantanamo) have been in a court of law, Jose Padilla being the latest. And, if I'm not mistaken, he's only the 2nd or 3rd to have been tried.
So, in typical Republican fashion, Cheney is disparaging the very thing the Administration has been doing. The old sleight of hand again.
January 23, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but "other than the indefinite imprisonment at Guantanamo" - really?
Between Gitmo and Bagram Air Base, that's upwards of a thousand people who have spent up to six years imprisoned with no due process. Collectively, they've surely served ten times as much as the sentences doled out to the mere two or three the DOJ has convicted in the last seven years.January 23, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nonetheless, Cheney is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He pooh-poohs litigation as the tool for dealing with what he calls terrorists yet that's exactly what the Bush administration, as well as other governments, are doing. In plain words, he's a big hypocrite.
January 23, 2008 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I'd say that, as with Padilla, they take it into the courts only when they have to. Padilla's case was going back up to the Supreme Court, and they were very probably going to lose, when they transferred him from military to civilian control to stand trial. The reason they did this, I would argue, is to avoid a ruling that would limit executive authority, not because it is the tack they would prefer to take. They would prefer to let people rot without habeas rights in indefinite detention, and retain the power to make it so.
January 24, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's hard to get worked up about Cheney when it's really Harry Reid that's handing the government and lawbreaking telecoms a pass. We know Cheney's nuts. Why are people who are supposedly on our side helping him?
And will either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama go back mto Washington to help stop the FISA bill?
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January 23, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why are people who are supposedly on our side helping him?
Because among the fruits of the past seven years of surveillance are a selection of choice tidbits the exposure of which Reid will do anything to prevent. Ditto Pelosi, Rockefeller, Leahy, etc. etc.
(Oh precious blood of the sweet baby Jesus, we are so fucked...)
January 23, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey! I've got an idea! RE:
And will either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama go back mto Washington to help stop the FISA bill?
Neither of them has to go back to Washington. How about someone who cares (ie a serious candidate) calling a press conference and giving an actual position paper on what our country is about? How about the one (or 2 or 3) who really care about our standards putting themselves out there!!!!
May I (not so humbly) suggest a few topics, questions, and not-so-subtle suggestions for the press conference:
1. Our Contstitutionally protected privacy as citizens -- take a stand. Where do you come down on this issue? FISA? Other issues?
2. Imperial Presidency -- ie signing statements, which nullify laws; declaring war -- how do YOU see this? Should this be allowed? If it should, why should it? If not, what do you intend to do to end it?
3. Presidential Appointments -- which ones should be political and which ones should be subject to scrutiny as to qualifications? Surely some appointments are made to insure cooperation with the administration, but many more REQUIRE competence and proven ability. This was completely absent in the last 8 years. What do you plan to do to make that an impossibility?
4. Do you intend to use the thoughts and ideas of the many qualified candidates of your party? Each candidate thought enough about being president to intrigue many in our country. They represented a talented group (Richardson, Biden, Kucinich, Edwards are all very gifted people who could help to move us in a good direction). Why should they just disappear?
I could go on, but you get the idea. If I were a Hillary or Obama advisor I would schedule a major speech that would cover these areas and more; leave the mud-slinging behind and show the ideas of my candidate. Once the other side starts slinging again, respond with a sigh, and say that unfortunately, I have to respond to this latest desperate tactic, but refer to the previous speech of ideas.
We need to hear the ideas and the goals, and we need to know that this isn't all about negatives.
We need some REAL promises that are deliverable. If a candidate promised to use the good minds of other candidates that would be a step in the right direction, and a show of respect for others in his/her party -- what a concept!
Remember, Romney got to give a speech about being a Mormon (even though he didn't actually GIVE a speech about being a Mormon) that was covered as news. Why shouldn't a Democrat be able to give a speech about Democracy and have it covered as a news item?
Jan
January 23, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny coincidence. I just blogged about the monarchism in Washington at dailykos.
Long and short in the context of this post, addressing the root causes of Cheneyism requires a really big shakeup in the Washington ruling class.
January 23, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheney "obviously speaking to a room filled with folks who mostly agree with him rather than venturing forth to talk to those who don't."
So what else is new?
January 23, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jan: "Why shouldn't a Democrat be able to give a speech about Democracy and have it covered as a news item?" Somehow I'm feeling inadequate at being handed an obvious straight line. Oops. Repeat ten times slowly: "liberal media."
John
http://www.haberarts.com/
January 23, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Sibel Edmonds allegations cut to the heart of Cheney's unabated nazification of America. No one wants to dare to admit or, even investigate these issues for reasons that remain unknown unknowns, but when and if the American people demand deeper analysis of Edmonds claims, - it will be GLARINGLY APPARENT that CHENEY is a fascist, and a traitor to America and all Americans who has personally undermined our security and prosperity for the wanton profiteering of the fascists in the Bush government, and their masters in the oil and energy oligarchs.
Yeah, I'm conspiratorial blah blah blah, - but until anyone - ANYONE - in a position of authority or respectability - Steve - dares to demand accountability from Cheney, and the klans, cabals, coteries, cronies, and oligarchs in or beholden to the fascists in the Bush government, or anyone - ANYONE - dares to examine the mountains of well documented evidence exposing systemic and endemic malfeasance, deception, failure, abuse, incompetence, and a ruthless betrayal and rank perversion of every principle that formally defined America, - and demands accountability and ultimately IMPEACHMENT of the VP, the socalled "decider", and several other fascists in the Bush government, - the radical reengineering and nazification of America will continue unabated, unrestrained, and Olympian in wealth, power, and authority.
Pain is coming anyway.
Then the people can demand are REAL investigation into the massmurder and mayhem of 9/11, and the fascists in the Bush government, and their grand wizard Cheney will be forever damned.
"Deliver us from evil!"
January 23, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tony, Tony, my boy, didn't you hear?
ALL THAT STUFF IS OFF THE TABLE!
Now, doesn't that make you feel better?
[Of course, nuclear strikes, invasion of other countries, torture, etc -- well, if we took those things off the table it would show that we're weak; that we've lost our ideals or something.]
Jan
January 24, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hope Cindy Sheehan takes Nancy Pelosi off the table.
January 24, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you referring to the Nancy "$50 Billion of Tax Breaks for Business But Not a Penny for the Unemployed" Pelosi?
January 24, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ellen, with a flick of my delete button and a little bolding to make it stand out, I can improve your sentence dramitically:
Are you referring to the Nancy "$50 Billion of Tax Breaks for Business But Not a Penny for the [ ] unemployed Pelosi?["]
Jan
January 25, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Word notthere, and unless and until the American people muster the courage to address these issues and demand accountability from the fascists warmongers and profiteers in the Bush government, - there will never be any Balm Gilead or any end to America's suffering nor will the socalled neverendingwaronterror ever be won. The fascists want, seek, and prosecute war, and neverendingwar, because they profit singularly and exclusively from the processes and conduct of war.
"Deliver us from evil!"
January 23, 2008 10:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...Under President Bush's leadership, after September 11th, the government made some difficult choices.
One of these was to stop treating terrorist attacks as criminal matters...."
And that's where it all goes wrong. As soon as he starts in on the reasons for FISA modification.
First, they never made any difficult choices. They saw the opportunity, knew what they wanted to do, then looked around for people to supply a legal opinion (no matter how screwy) to cover their naked arses while they broke the law, whether suspension of habeas corpus, "extraordinary rendition", or "enhanced interrogation methods", etc., etc.
Second, this is not the only country to have suffered an attack by al Qaeda, and there are a number who have suffered terrorist campaigns -- multiple attacks over time -- but may be the only democracy in recent years to decide to suspend its criminal law, to imagine into being some new category of prisoner, and create some new process of prejudicially practised law.
Suspension of the writ of habeas corpus. Assumption of guilt. Interrogation medthods that are torture under our own laws. Prisoners who know not of what they are accused. Or by whom. No right to see the evidence against them. No right to a defence. Interminable imprisonment, possibly under irresistably mind-breaking conditions, and without contact of any sort with the outside world or any friend or family. What legal process allowed possibly deliberately sabotaged by gaolers.
Good grief! This is positively inquisition-like.
It's not just a bad joke. It's a disgrace. More than a blemish, it's an unremoveable blot. It besmirches not only any lawyer unwilling to denounce the process of "law" under this administration, but the whole nation unwilling to stand and protest this errant, aberrant insult to our laws, to the Constitution, and to humankind.
January 23, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the part that is thoroughly unconvincing.
January 24, 2008 4:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or to say it somewhat differently -- Cheney's right; al Qaeda has a strategy (a long-term plan for "winning"). But, viewed rationally from the outside, al Qaeda's "strategy" has no possibility of success.
For Cheney to call al Qaeda's romantic desires a "strategy" is disingenuous, at best -- and, perhaps, is to prove himself an apologist for and an advocate on behalf of al Qaeda.
January 24, 2008 7:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
apologist for and an advocate on behalf of al Qaeda.
When Cheney begins referencing Bin Laden as "Sheikh Osama", it will be time to *duck and cover.
*speaking of "strategic threats"...
January 24, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
The world changed when a coordinated attack ended the lives of 3,000 Americans and turned 16 acres of New York City to ashes.
No it didn't.
As the President has made clear many times, we are dealing with a strategic threat to the United States.
Not even an existential threat.
The terrorists waging war against this country don't fight according to the rules of warfare, or international law, or moral standards, or basic humanity.
And we do?
They want to arm themselves with chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons -- and they would not hesitate to use such weapons.
So do we.
Their method is plain; is to plan in secret, and to proceed by stealth, so that we won't know what they're up to until a moment of sudden, catastrophic violence.
They must have taken lessons at the Ralph Reed school of guerrilla warfare. ("I want to be invisible. I do guerrilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. You don't know it's over until you're in a body bag." Nov. 1991)
We've taken necessary steps, as well, to go after the sponsors of terror, and to confront those who might provide these killers with more deadly capabilities.
Actually, Dick, Iraq was not a state sponsor of terror.
So our government has taken careful but urgent steps to monitor the communications of enemies at large, and to get information out of the ones that we've captured.
How many times can you torture that #3 guy, anyways?
"To save your world you asked this man to die; Would this man, could he see you now, ask why?" W.H. Auden
January 24, 2008 7:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
A few times too often on the heart-lung machine. Vice-President in charge of paranoia.
January 24, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Damn I think Dick's really believes the paraniod, delusional nightmares which slither from the dark corners and shadows in the recesses of his sick and twisted mind are real. Al-Qaida and the Islamic Jihadists have never been and never will be a threat to our country nor will they be able to establish a world-wide caliphate. They (Al-Qaida) were/are a bunch local yokels who got as lucky as a group like theirs can get and caught us with our pants down. No Dorothy the world hasn't changed. I just think the perverse SOB gets pleasure, probably sexual in its nature, when thinking about torturing people...so in his mind we must torture more.
January 24, 2008 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
really believes the paraniod, delusional nightmares
You give him too much credit.
He is straight outta' Goebbel's school for cold blooded, self-conscious, diabolic manipulation of the simple minded voter.
(Now, that other one, the crazy one, that Decider Guy, HE'S off the hizzie...)
January 24, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ring the 9/11 bell and the beltway dogs salivate. I don't know what's worse: how Pavlovian Bush/Cheney believe congress is; or how Pavlovian congress is.
January 24, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
~
Both are as bad as each other.
~OGD~
January 24, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink