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(This post was written jointly with Larry Mishel, president of EPI)

Allow us to quickly offer one more wrinkle—a really important one—to the ongoing debate about economic stimulus: we all want a quick, timely package to offset what, with each new data release, looks like a recession. But even if the process takes awhile, a stimulus package will still be very much worth pursuing.

There have been many statements in the press contradicting this point, i.e., asserting that unless we can get a stimulus package into the economy quickly, there’s little point in pursuing it. One economist told Bloomberg News, “Timing is extremely important…[r]ecessions typically last less than a year, so unless you can be pretty quick, it's not worth doing.”

The reason this statement is wrong is because it is based exclusively on gross domestic product, as if mitigating the fall in overall growth is the sole focus of an anti-recession package. In fact, our efforts should also target insufficient job growth, rising unemployment, and the resulting wage and income losses for many families, including those who don’t lose their jobs.

This insight is critical, because in both of the last two recessions—1990-91 and 2001—job market problems far outlasted the GDP contraction.

One reason for this is definitional: the officials who date recessions (and it’s not easy for recessions to get dates…) tend to weight the growth of the overall economy, as measured by real GDP, most heavily, and conversely, give less consideration to unemployment and job growth.

The 1990-91 recession officially ended in March 1991, but unemployment kept rising for another fifteen months, until June 1992. That was also the birth of the jobless recovery, as employment growth stagnated over this same period. But that was nothing compared to the jobless recovery following the 2001 recession: between the official trough (recession end-date) and August 2003, we lost another 1.1 million jobs (in addition to the 1.7 million lost over the recession).

Since most families depend on their paychecks, not their stock portfolios, the weak job market translated into income losses for many in the middle-class on down. In both of the last two cases, real median family incomes fell not just in the recessions, but for the first three to four years of the recoveries.

Now, we honor GDP growth as much as the next economists, but it’s jobs and incomes that matter most to most people. An effective stimulus package, even one that’s late, can boost these important variables, so we don’t want to give up on it if we can’t get it out the door in the next few months.

But will the pattern of the last two recessions show up in the next one? That’s unknowable, and we’ll keep our statistical eyes peeled for precisely this type of GDP up, jobs/incomes-down dynamic in coming quarters. At this point, many forecasters are calling for a relatively mild recession, but again, that’s ‘mild’ judged purely in GDP terms. Goldman Sachs analysts forecast unemployment climbing through 2009, hitting 6.5 percent by the last quarter. According to our calculations, based on the historical relationship between unemployment and middle-class incomes, an increase in joblessness of that magnitude would lower the real incomes of such families by $2,400 over 2008 and 2009.

So when it comes to an effective stimulus package, we want it early, but we’ll take it late.

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Well, the one thing I think we can be assured we won't get is an "effective stimulus package."  What we'll get is tax relief for businesses.

EPI is on its way to becoming an enabler of Congressional payback of corporate campaign donors. If the IRC didn't already look like Swiss cheese, it will after this latest pandering "It's the economy, stupid" wave of tax loophole gifts to corporate America.

"recession" seems to this outsider to be one of the poorest definitions imaginable and I wonder if it is really a useful economic indicator. Since one has to wait three months into any recession before anyone acknowledges we are in a recession (if then, since there are always revisions to economic data), what is the use of this view through the rear window? Wouldn't it make some sense to have a predictive measure? Doesn't this definition just serve to allow policy makers to haggle about a downturn without doing anything until the previous period is anointed with the rubric? It seems to me we could be in a depression while economists debate whether we are headed into recesssion.

I hear you, VL.  The diagnostic process here is too long and fraught with uncertainty and bias.  The problem is that it takes a while to get the data together to make the call.

We should think of new, creative ways to go about this.  How about something based on sales data using real-time measures from scanners?  Some proprietary issues, I'm sure, but that might be worth thinking about.

Jared Bernstein -

Good post. Overall we need to stop thinking short term, and start thinking longer term.

The reason corporate interests are so afraid of long term stimulus, is they know it will also by definition come with a responsibility towards the public interest for industries to consider the public good. Which corporations expect in other countries, but which corporations operating in America have been able to completely avoid, and often act as outright pirates and loot the American economy.

For example, Toyota knows its HC costs are lowered due to their HC system. Toyota knows it had better manufacture cars in Japan and provide good jobs. It knows that the government expects it to innovate technologically and continue being competitive, and providing those jobs and contributing wealth to the Japanese economy, long into the future. And the Japanese taxpayer and government funds their universities and technology R&D on the public dime, which eventually goes into Toyota cars, physics research, electronic, robotics, and every aspect of the Japanese economy.

By comparison, our taxpayers and students fund our universities to research technology which then finds its way into products owned by private companies, who then take that technology and build manufacturing plants abroad, and suck the profits into executive compensation and Wall Street, much of which is never seen in the US economy again.

With the NY markets idling since 2000, and looking like they may collapse on the credit crunch, we may be using the term "depression" soon.

Anyone care to bet when the Dow will sink below 12,000? We've already topped $100/bbl for oil. And check gold.

I find a parallel to the combination of wasted war funds and increased payouts for oil in the Vietnam period. With economists starting to use the word "stagflation" it feels kinda familiar---Nixonian power abuse, a politically convenient war, and oil price hikes. That some of the same people were invlolved in both periods is a bonus.

If this administration actually understood anything about the economy, what ever gives you the idea that they would give a fig. Their last tax-cutting "stimulus" was judged by the government offices themselves to have contributed 0.1% to GDP, if I remember correctly.

Here's an idea.

Isn't it possible, just like in feudal times, for the majority of the populace to be actually experiencing a recession while the overall economic figures are flat or up?

Think about it.

If the economist that made the recession timing remark was correct about timing, wouldn't he have already make a killing in the market and not still be laboring as a bad economist?



"To save your world you asked this man to die; Would this man, could he see you now, ask why?" W.H. Auden

One comment and one question:

The wholesale inflation report just released showing significant price inflation; what impact does this pose to a stimulus package?

1993 Clinton Transportation stimulus package seemed to have a significant impact in boosting the economy out of the H.W. Bush recession/stagflation. Correct?

The wholesale inflation report just released showing significant price inflation . . . .

Really?  "Just released"?

"For inflation, the year ended on a more positive note with wholesale prices falling by 0.1 percent in December." 1/15/2008 (emphasis added)

Really? "Just released"?

"For inflation, the year ended on a more positive note with wholesale prices falling by 0.1 percent in December." 1/15/2008 (emphasis added)

Yeah, really. Just in case you missed the headline of the article in which the snippet you emphasized is included: Wholesale Prices Rose by 6.3% in 2007
And note, if you will, that the month previous to December showed a 3.2% increase in wholesale prices. Which would seem to me to completely overwhelm the December decrease.

Doesn't the 6.3% reflect energy prices? Core inflation was only 2%, the same as 2006.

Maybe the best recession indicator is when the Fed starts muttering that weak growth is more of a concern than inflation.



"To save your world you asked this man to die; Would this man, could he see you now, ask why?" W.H. Auden

With the fiscal crisis hitting states, coast-to-coast, an important part of a stimulus package should be aid to the states. This can save good jobs in the public sector for police, fire, public works, teachers, etc... At the same time the financial sector is shedding tens of thousands of jobs.

Give every state a cool billion earmarked for infrastructure and get our blue collar workers back to work the next day.

Simple.

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Merrill-Lynch posts write-down. Everybody is hurting. Dow is heading to below 12,000. But the Fed is sanguine, it seems, or more likely hoping to soothe fears:

Ben S. Bernanke endorsed quick passage of a stimulus package and aggressive action by the Fed, but said that a recession is probably not on the horizon.

Only problem is, how much does it help to have everyone laugh at you?

I think we had better consider not so much quick action but major restructuring.

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