Bhutto's Assassination

One thing is clear from the tragic events in Pakistan today. The Bush White House's policies in that part of the world are a miserable--and dangerous failure. This is not news, alas, but with instability on the rise in Pakistan and the security situation worsening there as militant Islam ascends, we now face a situation with two failed states, side by side-Pakistan and Afghanistan, with U.S. troops and politicians occupied off in Iraq instead of in Afghanistan, where they should have been all along.

The corruption of the Pakistani military is nothing new, though as recent NYTimes stories show, there appears to be some in positions of power who are willing to leak their frustration to the media. Bhutto's assassination was a failure of the security services, who are lavishly paid by the U.S. government.

Indeed, the echoes of today's happenings are in an important new film, Charlie Wilson's War, which scopes out the mis-steps that liberals and conservatives in the U.S. government both took, to tragic end, in arming the Muhajadeen in Afghanistan and continuing to ally with the Pakistani military, decades before we ended up where we are today.

Let's hope that as the election season continues these issues get debated for real--though January 2008 may be too late for substantial moves to be made to put events in that part of the world on a course toward sanity.


Comments (60)

Musharraf looks blunt enough to have allowed this to happen, or even asked for it. The bulldozing of the Supreme Court was not exactly subtle. Expecting to simply override election practice and get another presidential term is equally flagrant disrespect for propriety.

If Musharraf knew that one of the internal Islamist groups was gunning for Bhutto, he would perhaps have hoped to let it happen and then round up the perpetrators, winning two for one. He hasn't given us any reason to trust his sense of proper lawful procedure.

Certainly, like Giuliani and Bush here, he should not be able to gain any support for continued service in office after such a disastrous failure. But like here, he may get a rallying effect among some supporters.

"Charlie Wilson's War", which I read, left me with the lesson that we can't walk away from stuff we start when the effect is to stir things up. It was not the arming of mujihadeen that led to blowback, but the ignoring of that area after Russia left. That was on GHWB's watch, and we missed a great opportunity.

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like here, he may get a rallying effect

Doctoral candidates in Political Science circa 2050 will be writing dissertations on "The Dub Maneuver", being the appeal for popular support based upon the premise :"I have created a monumental shitstorm; be very afraid; re-elect me"

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This will probably be Bushette's last chance to prove his is a man and a leader.
He must dissociate the US from the Musharraf's government, and choose instead to support someone of honesty, decency and courage.

As expected, he has already failed, by claiming that the murder of Musharraf's main political rival was at the hands of radicals and terrorists.

One of the characteristics of "leaders or men" is their ability to pick men of quality to lead.

As in all other things, Bushette is a world class failure. Bushette has gotten a running start at turning Afghanistan into another Hussein/Iraq-like horror.

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One thing is clear from the tragic events in Pakistan today.

No. Nothing at all is clear from the events in Pakistan. No conclusions of any kind can be drawn.

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On the contrary, we may conclude that George Dubya was correct when he has said, on many, many occasions, more sacrifices are needed to win the GWOT, not including any by himself or the architects of his policies.

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I would love to blame Bush for every bad thing that happens in the world. But this is not one of Bush's blunders.

Let us say we impeached Bush and Cheney last summer and Pelosi was president. Do tell us what she could have done differently to protect Bhutto?

Let's go back a little further.  Let's say Gore, who actually won, was president beginning 2001.  911?  Who knows?  If it indeed happened (after the warnings which might not have been ignored) and Gore took us into Afghanistan to get binLadin, and we actually GOT him, the message would be:

The US makes those who fight us pay. 

The Taliban would have been pushed out of Afghanistan, and it wouldn't have been cool to be in alQaeda.  Recruitment for suicide bombers would have fallen on deaf ears.  Saddam would still be prisiding over a far more lawful and successful and peaceful Iraq; Valerie Plame would have continued her clandestine activities to keep Iraq and Iran from getting nuclear weapons.

We would have had real clout with Musharraf, instead of cow-towing to him as his country harbors AlQaeda and untold other criminals; nuclear secrets and gear sold to terrorists and the seller living the high-life in Pakistan. 

So, yes.  Bush's dim-wit, oil-crazy, simple-minded policies helped put this in place. 

So as to this:

Let us say we impeached Bush and Cheney last summer and Pelosi was president. Do tell us what she could have done differently to protect Bhutto?

Don't be ridiculous- it would have been way too late.  It very well may be way too late for our own country.   In a world like this the decisions made by a country as powerful as ours cannot be stupid, destructive to our very constitutional basis,  and selfish for 7 years without serious repercussions. 

Yeah.  I don't know if Bhutto would still be alive if Bush was in jail, but the whole world would be in much better shape if that HAD happened.

Jan

Oh!  And 3700 American soldiers would still be alive; many thousands more would be whole instead of in pieces, many thousands of Iraqis would be alive (and still living in Iraq), and we would have allies rather than forced coalitions, and friends rather than enemies throughout the world.

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Let's go back even further. What if the US had just plain stopped meddling abroad and took care of problems at home. Bin Laden would have had no reason to attack us and would things really be any worse in Pakistan?

I keep hearing even Pat Buchanan saying that this helps Hillary because people want steady experience. Yeah, right. Like thing were just so absolutely swell in the region when Bill left office.

Bhutto very narrowly escaped a massive strike when she reentered the country after many years. And now she has been struck down.

So, putting aside for a moment all the speculation over what her death means and the variety of opinions about her politics, it should be acknowledged by all that this woman was courageous and openly defied those who opposed her with grace and great calmness of purpose.

I am hardly a defender of the administration, but I think it is a gross over-simplification to assert that the Bhutto assassination speaks to Bush's failed policies toward the region or is simply the failure of security services funded by U.S. aid.

First of all, we don't know who did this but it is likely to be from a tiny minority group, rather than an ascending Islamic militancy. Second, this is less about Bush's policies and more about the Pakistani people and their ability to get a decent democracy working in the face of a political crisis. Finally, let's give Pakistan some credit for having a complex society that is not so dependent on what we say and do from Washington. This is not the movies, where everything is made crystal clear by Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts.

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Jorge, although Bhutto's death cannot speak unequivocally to the failed policies of the Bush administration, the other million or so dead throughout the region from Israel to Iraq over the last six years might indicate something knackered in the overall Bush GWOT.

Conversely, do you or anyone at Chatham House know the name and circumstances of anyone whose life has been assertively saved by Bush policies towards 'the region'? Isn't saving lives the point of it all?

Lacking a forthcoming name, I can imagine a BBC headline, 'Leading Foreign Policy Think-Tank Unable to Locate One Person Whose Life has been Saved in Bush GWOT'

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I'm as guilty as anyone of not paying a lot of attention lately to Pakistan, but  once lived there and should know better.

A Pakistani friend sent me a link to the Northwest Frontier Post today, where there are now lots of stories about the Bhutto assassination from the local perspective. FYI.

http://www.thefrontierpost.com/Allnews.aspx?ncat=ts

The friend, who is from the Kurram Agency area of the Frontier (on the Afghan border, near Peshawar), passed along the news that there are hot battles and skirmishes going on there right now. Mortars, RPG's and automatic weapons, mostly. This has been going on for a month or more, with Taliban fighters coming down out of the mountains and attacking villages and schools. According to what he says, and what the Frontier Post reports, there is a concerted military drive by Taliban forces to push down into Pakistan proper, to further destabilize the country. For what it's worth, the government doesn't seem to be offering lots of help.

Could it be that Mushariff is too weak, and his security forces too infiltrated by Taliban sympathizers to send in the gunships to protect the villagers. They're Pathans, and every one knows how to handle a gun from the time they can walk, so they're giving a good account of themselves. But the Bhutto news is not the only thing bad going on over there, and not the only evidence of the collapsing foreign "policy" of the US in backing a dictator who's allowed the enemy to sneak inside the henhouse. 

http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=703

It would be good to keep in mind that many in Pakistan still blame the US for the death of Bhutto's father at the hands of Zia ul-Huq, portrayed so favorably in the "Charley Wilson's War" as another 'good dictator'. We have got some 'splainin' to do, as the Taliban will use this suspicion against us if we make any more dumb moves. 

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Bhutto's assassination was a failure of the security services, who are lavishly paid by the U.S. government.

Perhaps not.

KARACHI, October 24: Former Pakistan President Benazir Butto had named four well-known persons, including Punjab Chief Minister Chaudhry Parvez Elahi and former ISI chief Hamid Gul, as those who pose a threat to her life in a letter to President Pervez Musharraf, a media report said on Wednesday.
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/231913.html

And a failure of Bush policies? As Jorge suggests, let's stop exaggerating the US influence on other countries. Just because the US sends them lots of money it doesn't always control them much. It's too bad the US can't work with China--it has a lot of influence in Pakistan.

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I look at the stats and actually most haven't visited, although they should. So live with it. And thanks for the triple promo of my hobby.
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Hamid Gul

oddly enough, he appeared today as a "go-to" guy for comment (maybe on one of the 24/hr cable shows (might be Faux), but I think it was a broadcast network)

One thing is clear from the tragic events in Pakistan today.

Can anyone guess what comes next in this sentence at TPMCafe? What always comes next in this sentence? If a planet in the Zantar quadrant exploded, 100 million light years away, what would still be the next sentence at TPMCafe?

The Bush White House's policies in that part of the world are a miserable--and dangerous failure.

There comes a point where such dreary ideological lockstep is genuinely distasteful when it's trotted out so cynically while standing in the blood of the recently murdered. Considering the way Muslims in Pakistan have been slaughtering each other on a regular basis since partition, the implicit idea here-- that if only some smarter fellow like John Kerry had been elected, all in Pakistan would be gumdrops and moonbeams-- is asininity of an extraordinary sort.

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c'mon Max, open your eyes, just look down one post on the front page, Larry Johnson has moved on from blaming Bush to blaming Obama for blaming Hillary. We are definitely seeing some stirrings away from the same old same old here. Heck, two commenters above had the temerity to ever so gently suggest that this may be one topic that is not all about Bush and they haven't even gotten zero-rated yet.

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Now me, personally, I'd like to see some substantive discussion of the issue. Links to intelligent speculation, updates on the latest information, informed assessment as to the ways that this issue may shake out.

Sadly, MgMax has a point. The discussion is shallow, uninformed and trite for the most part.

Regrettably, I have to award MgMax a zero because his contribution is simply more of same. Instead of knee jerk blaming of Bush, it's knee jerk whining about knee jerk blaming of Bush. MgMax moves the discussion to meta-cliche, at which point, we're all in danger of vanishing up asses.

Now me, personally, I'd like to see some substantive discussion of the issue.  Valdron

"Issues? We ain't got no issues. We don't need no issues. I don't have to show you any stinking issues."  Alfonso Bedoya

Why am I not surprised that even when you grant that I have a point, you misuse the stupid, pointless, worthless, rife-with-abuse, power-trip-enabling, discussion-stifling, diversity-strangling system on this groupthink-riddled, mostly tedious site?

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a) You had a point;

b) You then committed exactly the sin that you were accusing other people of, but on an even bigger scale; and

c) Postmodernists piss me off, and you were being ultrapostmodern.

You're being an ultraposeur.

Ultrapisher.

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I personally don't feel qualified to engage in substantive discussion of an country the politics of which I understand so little. But I thought this evening's PBS Newshour program (text transcript here) - Judy Woodruff spent the entire hour with several Pakistan experts, including a former advisor to Bhutto's father - was helpful (if only in making it clear to me how little I truly understand what's going on), especially it provided a more in-depth analysis than what has been available on cable news all day.

“The healthy man does not torture others — generally it is the tortured who turn into torturers.” ~~ C. G. Jung

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vanishing up asses.

Hey! I'm workin' here--I'm lookin' for the stars, awright?

Polkadots and Moonbeams?

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According to Steven Cole's Ghost Wars leaders of Pakistan have been double dealing and misleading American Presidents at least as far back as Jimmy Carter. Americans have focused on Pakistan's nuclear program or the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan. Pakistani leaders whether miliary or civilian have been mainly concerned with India.

Rather than draw inward, an impossibility for a nation with economic interests everywhere in the globa, maybe it is time for Americans to insist on being informed about what is going on in the world and in their name.

Daniel A. Greenbaum

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For what it is worth, here's my take on what we know.

Benazair Bhutto was assassinated by firearm, either long range sniper or short range pistol assassin. Immediately after the assassination a suicide bomber blew up her car and some twenty people.

What does this tell us? First, it seems to rule out the 'crazed lone gunman.' There were at least two persons involved, and likely substantially more. It's not like they sell explosive vests at the Pakistani Wal-Mart. The operation shows planning and coordination, and at least a modicum of paramilitary or military sophistication.

The combination of shooter and suicide bomber is unique. We've got several instances in Iraq of multiple suicide bombers converging on a target, but I don't think I've ever seen this pattern.

Among other things, it seems contradictory. Suicide bombers are about as low tech as you can get. No basic skill apart from suicidal fervour and the ability to pull a string is required. From what we know, most don't build their own vests, don't acquire or load their own cars, don't even get delivered to the site.

On the other side of the coin, while generally pulling a trigger isn't much harder than pulling a string, a good shooter is something of a professional and requires skills, training and discipline. Tribesmen often have those sorts of skills, but they're not really oriented for long distance sniping or close in wet work. This implies some form of paramilitary training.

It strikes me as odd to see the two used in conjunction, it reminds me of those wacky mismatched cop movies that were popular in the eighties.

The logic and methodology of such an effort eludes me. Was the suicide bomber a back up effort, in case the gunman failed? If so, why did he go through once the hit takes place? Excitement, bad judgement, capture?

Or was the suicide bomber supposed to go first? Unlikely, since if Bhutto had survived then the resulting security surge would have made her inaccessible to a shooter.

It's possible that the bomber was intended to cover the tracks. Once the shooting takes place, he walks in, destroys the scene. Had it been done right, there might not have been any awareness of a shooter at all. But this poses a question as to why cover the tracks, unless its to confuse the issue of who is behind the assassination?

If the object was confusion or misdirection, then this may speak to parties or agendas. Presumably Islamic Radicals, Al Quaeda and suchlike would not want any confusion and would be out to claim credit.

Mushareff, elements of the Pakistani military, internal security, internal political rivals, China or India, foreign intelligence agencies might be inclined to attempt to cover their actions, which brings us to a web of conspiracy, black flag, and plausible deniability.

Some of these can be discounted. Bhutto's political rivals likely don't have the salt to pull it off. Pakistani politics has no paramilitary tradition, the real military wouldn't stand for it. They could of course try to hire out, but it seems unlikely.

At the same time, it's not clear to me why a foreign government or intelligence agency would be inclined to do this. Perhaps if Bhutto promised a radical change of direction that severely upset the apple cart for someone or other, but I just don't see it.

Radical Islamists presumably would want Bhutto dead, and at least some groups like Al Quaeda and the Taliban are sufficiently militarized, skilled and dedicated to pull it off.

The obvious beneficiary of Bhutto's death might by Mushareff. Dictators have a long history of murderous overreach. Remember Aquino's murder on the Manila airstrip? We can't rule him out.

On the other hand, would he really need to do this? By all accounts, Mushareff pretty much had Pakistani politics sussed out. He'd broken the supreme court, had the run of the country and was all set to be President, with a castrated Bhutto as his Prime Minister. Arguably, Mushareff already owned Bhutto, he didn't have to kill her.

Equally, Bhutto was central to Condoleeza Rice's 'democratization strategy'. It was cosmetic and meaningless in the larger sense, but the idea was to try and put a 'nicer looking' government in place amenable to American interests. there's even some notion that a pliable Bhutto might help to control the army, or at least direct Pakistan's foreign policy in a more reliable way.

Bhutto's death in the long term is an embarrassment to both Mushareff and the US, particularly since it appears that Mushareff is taking much of the blame for it, no matter what. Mushareff may not survive this.

So what does this leave? Dissident or rogue elements of Pakistan's internal security forces or military?

The political fallout promises to be nasty. The Bhutto party has no 'heir apparent', and no real leadership. That's the trouble with having personality based leadership, and with having that leadership regularly exiled.

The other major political party now proposes to boycott the election, which produces a situation where the entirety of Pakistan's new political process dissolves.
If that political process fails utterly, then what happens?

As we've seen with both the Red Mosque incident and the recent attack on Pakistan's legal community, the country seems to be fissioning all over the place. The military retains power through an ever shifting combination of accommodation, aggression, picking and avoiding fights selectively. The Military cannot be said to actually rule Pakistan, so much as front it. It sits at the top of the heap, a status not to be confused with dominion.

It's the chaotic nature of the Pakistan situation that prevents us from predicting the results of Bhutto's death. The situation is so screwy almost anything can happen, its fundamentally volatile.

The most certain thing we can say is that a hoped for movement to stability is foiled before it really had a chance. Whether that movement would have amounted to anything will never be known now.

But whether the Bhutto death will unleash the whirlwind, certainly a possibility... or whether the ripples of the Bhutto death will fade away... that remains to be seen.

On the American side, I don't see Bush as being much more than a hapless idiot in this matter. But then the Bush administration have been hapless idiots with respect to Pakistan since day one. Bottom line they need Pakistan badly for the war on terror, the access to Afghanistan, the pressure on Iran. They need it badly enough to overlook A.Q.Khan and Pakistan's nuclear proliferation. They're hapless in dealing with the ongoing cold war with India, the geopolitics of China, access to central asia. It's just a mess.

Bush policy seems to be based on hope and wishful thinking. A desire that Pakistan does what we want and not makes too many waves, and a willingness to make allowances and overlook. Beyond that, there's a vague wish for stability and loyalty, with some cosmetics desired.

To the extent that Bush has plans with regard to Pakistan, there's not much. Back the strongman and give him whatever he asks for is about it. The effort to put a kinder gentler face on it all has just blown up badly. They got nothing else.

Ladies and gentlemen, make some popcorn, pull up a lawn chair. Nothing to do but watch the show...

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Nice piece of reasoning, V. My vote is for the "rogue military" option you mentioned, with the distinct possibility that it is that and/or some in the Pakistani secret services who sympathize with the Taliban, who in fact helped create the Taliban back in the day. 

 The idea would be to embarass Musharaff, eliminate a hated political rival (Bhutto), and do it in such a way as to confuse the US and blunt any overt response. Still, it moves the interests of the fundamentalists in the military who are angling to take over and control the nukes. We should make sure that the body guard around the new military chief of staff is doubled, and with our own people. 

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One minor item that's interesting is that no one seems to be leaping forward to take the credit.

That's peculiar behaviour for Al Quaeda and ilk. The nature of these organizations is that they're gloryhogs. If they can take credit, they will.

For what it's worth:

"We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat mujahideen.” These were the words of al-Qaeda’s top commander for Afghanistan operations and spokesperson Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, immediately after the attack that claimed the life of Pakistani politician Benazir Bhutto on Thursday (December 27).

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“This is our first major victory against those [eg, Bhutto and President Pervez Musharraf] who have been siding with infidels [the West] in a fight against al-Qaeda and declared a war against mujahideen,” Mustafa told Asia Times Online by telephone.

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Well, if you are going to do FWIW's, here's a good one that I recalled reading about at the time:

Come to Jihad” – Audio Speech from Usama bin Laden Addressing the People of Pakistan, Declaring War on the Pakistani Government By SITE Intelligence Group September 20, 2007

The head of al-Qaeda, Usama bin Laden, addresses the Muslims in Pakistan, urging them to rebel against the government of President Pervez Musharraf and declaring al-Qaeda’s intent to retaliate for the blood spilled of “champions of Islam”, in a 23:36 minute audio speech produced by as-Sahab. This audio, issued to jihadist forums today, Thursday, September 20, 2007, in Arabic, English, Pashtu and Urdu, is the fourth release from the al-Qaeda multimedia wing to feature bin Laden in part or in whole....

Bin Laden’s speech presents justification on the grounds of Islamic Shari’a for the overthrow of Musharraf, citing his cooperation with the United States and recent actions against the Red Mosque (Lal Masjid) and Jamia Hafsa for this purpose. Echoing the sentiments of other al-Qaeda leaders, Zawahiri and Abu Yahya al-Libi, he condemns Musharraf and states: “So Pervez, his ministers, his soldiers and those who help him are all accomplices in the spilling the blood of those of the Muslims who have been killed. He who helps him knowingly and willingly is an infidel like him”. Bin Laden advocates dismissing elections and other “futile actions”, arguing that force is required and jihad is the way....

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Also, on the opportunism-thy-name-is-al-Qaeda front, there is this currently at the top of Counterterrorism Blog:

December 27, 2007
What a Coincidence! New Osama bin Laden Tape Coming Soon (updated)
By Andrew Cochran

I especially like the update at the bottom of the post (embedded links on site), haven't read through the links yet; al-Jazeera as "channel of the infidels" sounds juicy:

Reuters report has the tape titled, "The Path to Foiling Plots in Iraq," and quotes OBL criticizing Al Jazeera for allegedly misrepresenting his October tape: "May God expose the cover-up by Al Jazeera, the channel of the infidels." Recall that many commentators, including Walid Phares (see his post on that tape), interpreted OBL's criticism of ISI as a defeatist message.
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Interesting. Opportunistic gloryhogging, or perhaps they reaslly did it. Why would a commander of Afghan operations have any knowledge of an operation in southern Pakistan? Nevertheless, add it to the list of odd datums.

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My vote is for the "rogue military" option you mentioned, with the distinct possibility that it is that and/or some in the Pakistani secret services who sympathize with the Taliban, who in fact helped create the Taliban back in the day.

CNN is now stating that U.S. intelligence sources are saying they have intercepted messages that suggest that the responsibility for the assassination was the Taliban's. Curiously, I've also heard reports (see my link to the PBS story, above), that say that Bhutto initially supported the Taliban. Here's something from the wiki on Bhutto:

Policy on Taliban

The Taliban took power in Kabul in September 1996. It was during Bhutto's rule that the Taliban gained prominence in Afghanistan. She viewed the Taliban as a group that could stabilize Afghanistan and enable trade access to the Central Asian republics, according to author Stephen Coll.[10] He claims that her government provided military and financial support for the Taliban, even sending a small unit of the Pakistani army into Afghanistan.

More recently, she took an anti-Taliban stance, and condemned terrorist acts committed by the Taliban and their supporters.

It should be noted that the wiki is labeled "disputed." At this point, all that's clear to me is that Bhutto was controversial, and Pakistani politics are extremely complex.

Yesterday, Sen. Dodd, on MSNBC, said he hoped that the elections that are scheduled for January 8th would be postponed, but apparently Musharrif has said they will continue as planned. It's unclear whether the Bush administration is pushing for not postponing them, but it would be consistent with past Bush policy for them to do so. I hope this doesn't lead to another Hamas-type electoral moment.

“The healthy man does not torture others — generally it is the tortured who turn into torturers.” ~~ C. G. Jung

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Curiously, I've also heard reports (see my link to the PBS story, above), that say that Bhutto initially supported the Taliban.

I don't find that curious at all. Most of the Afghan people initially supported the Taliban. There was a hunger for sharia or any basic kind of rule of law vs. a state of anarchy under many brutal and constantly fighting war lords. For Pakistan, any kind of government in the country next door was preferable at the time to not having any at all, especially after the ISI with the CIA helped cause the situation by arming the mujahadeen against the Soviets. That they were Pashtun like Pakistan's northwest was a bonus (if it had been Shia like Afghanistan's north would have been better for Iran and not very good for Pakistan.) Not a lot of good choices at the time--alternatively, Pakistan could have gone in and occupied southern Afghanistan?

BTW, I think you will always see disputed wikipedia entries on these and related topics. Mho, when you are dealing with national borders of recent creation (Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Bangladesh) that cut across ancient cultures or try to make those cultures live together in harmony, you get "realist" politicians who end up doing "corrupt" or "controversial" things and you get constant "revisionist" history because the nations themselves are still basically "revisions."

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Indeed, "curious" was a poor choice of words, and your other points are well stated. Many governments and individuals within them supported the Taliban when they first arose, including, according to some sources, our own, who saw them as a bulwark against the Soviets.

I also pretty much agree with the paragraph on wikipedia entries. My point was that there does seem to be some controversy about Bhutto herself, so I mentioned the declaimer to alert other readers to that. What you wrote seems to further confirm my thinking.

“The healthy man does not torture others — generally it is the tortured who turn into torturers.” ~~ C. G. Jung

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Val,
I'm a little surprised that you just rule Bush out as a hapless idiot. Bhutto's return to Pakistan was under US auspices although she was a threat to the US client Musharraf, and now she's gone. Coincidence? No such thing, right? The CIA is a large organization with capabilities exceeding those needed for torturing people, and Bhutto's hit can be blamed on AQ. Possible win-win for the Red, White and Blue, no?

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But Don, think it through. Yes, Bhutto's return to Pakistan was under US auspices, which means that she was seen as a useful tool of US foreign policy.

Yes, she was possible threat to US client Mushareff, but at the same time, much of that threat had been neutralized. It wasn't likely that Bhutto was going to be able to threaten Mushareff's position as President, the role ordered for her was as a Democratic/Progressive face on the Pakistan polity, something to use.

If she'd truly not been a part of American plans, she'd have never been allowed out of exile. From Juan Cole:

The NYT reported that US Secretary of State Condi Rice tried to fix Musharraf's subsequent dwindling legitimacy by arranging for Benazir to return to Pakistan to run for prime minister, with Musharraf agreeing to resign from the military and become a civilian president. When the supreme court seemed likely to interfere with his remaining president, he arrested the justices, dismissed them, and replaced them with more pliant jurists. This move threatened to scuttle the Rice Plan, since Benazir now faced the prospect of serving a dictator as his grand vizier, rather than being a proper prime minister.

With Benazir's assassination, the Rice Plan is in tatters and Bush administration policy toward Pakistan and Afghanistan is tottering.

No, the Bush administration was taken by surprise by all this. With Bhutto gone, what little they had for plans, is in disarray.

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An ex-Pak intelligence officer is fingering, not Musharraf or al-Qaida, but domestic elements of the 'rogue' variety. 

 

More here: http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004990.php

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Here's a wrinkle. It's now being alleged that the gunman and the suicide bomber were the same person. Seems bizarre and atypical, but go figure:

Bhutto, 54, was struck down amid scenes of blood and chaos as an unknown gunman opened fire and, according to witnesses and police, blew himself up, killing 20 other people.
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Here’s what happened

* It isn't hard to imagine what lured her to Liaquat Bagh in the heart of Rawalpindi. The park, where Pakistan's first Prime Minister Liaquat Ali Khan fell to an assassin's bullet in 1951, was the venue of many memorable PPP rallies.

* Benazir Bhutto was leaving Liaquat Bagh after addressing the rally when her vehicle, a Black Lexus bulletproof vehicle, stopped near the venue’s gate where PPP workers were shouting party slogans.

* Benazir came out from the sunroof of her vehicle to respond to her supporters’ slogans when a motorcyclist opened Klashnikov fire on her.

* Benazir fell inside her vehicle after receiving bullet injuries on her head and neck.

* The attacker blew himself up after firing the shots.

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Interesting details. Sounds like the assassin was tailing her, waiting for an opportunity to get a shot at her if she exited the vehicle, and if not an opportunity to get close enough to the vehicle that his bomb would take her out.

Hold on... Tariq Ali has a post in the Guardian UK that reverses the shooting and bombing by more than one assassin. From the way he writes, it sounds like he was posting from Pakistan.

Benazir had survived the bomb blast yesterday but was felled by bullets fired at her car. The assassins, mindful of their failure in Karachi a month ago, had taken out a double insurance this time.



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Interesting. This is utterly inconsistent with the current report, and presupposes multiple coordinated assassins. I wonder how much of this is 'fog of war' and how much is deliberate misinformation put about by various parties for their own purposes, including potentially, the killers obscuring their tracks.

For my part, I find the 'lone gunman/bomber' theory somewhat unlikely and counterintuitive. Real fodder for conspiracy theory here.

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Here's what happened II

Officials revealed she was killed by shrapnel not gunshots. Government officials said Friday that a medical report confirmed that Bhutto was killed by shrapnel from the blast -- from which at least 28 more people died and at least 100 were wounded.

The shrapnel hit the right side of her skull, Interior Ministry spokesman Brigadier Javed Iqbal Cheema said. The bomber did shoot at Bhutto with a pistol, but she had no bullet injury.

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Interesting. Other reports had it as two bullet wounds entering her from the back, one in her spine, the other in her neck exiting out the side of her head.

This must be magic shrapnel.

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Paksitanis blame Musharraf for failing to protect Benazir. The question is from whom. If the bulk of the Pakistanis decide that Al Qaeda which had been aiming for her killed her, then Al Qaeda is toast in much of Paksitan and troops eager to attack Al Qaeda may be available.

It is worth remembering that Benazir was Shia and that while we are the far enemy, Al Qaeda calls the Shia the near enemy.

The list of countries where Al Qaeda is making itself hated is getting extensive.

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I'm not sure that's correct. It strikes me that the Pakistani's are as liable to blame Mushareff for killing her as failing to protect her.

Even if Bhutto's death is blamed on Al Quaeda, it doesn't necessarily translate into a major reverse for them. At worst they lose some soft popular support and fall back on a hard core of fundamentalists that figured she was better off dead.

Nor are highly motivated troops much use against Al Quaeda, because Al Quaeda simply doesn't fight that way. They're a covert operation, carrying out terror attacks. They don't have tanks, helicopters and fortifications, don't hold territory, etc.

At best it might heat up the Pakistan army's efforts to domesticate Waziristan. but that's likely to be bloody, and not likely to be successful.

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There were some 250 troops who surrendered to local militants in the territories -- their argument seems to have been that they were co-religionists. If troops are drawn from Benazir' supporters who blame the militants that won't happen again. Given the desire among some Muslims to view OBL as some kind of Robin Hood, the Pakistanis must cope with a certain level of doubt about the reliability of their own army.

Agreed that it would be bloody and not clear that it would be successful.

Nonetheless if Al Qaeda is or is believed to be responsible for the assasination of Benazir they will have succeeded in alienating a large proportion of Pakistanis.

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Nonetheless if Al Qaeda is or is believed to be responsible for the assasination of Benazir they will have succeeded in alienating a large proportion of Pakistanis.

But this would not bother al Qaeda et. al one wit. They are not at all concerned about alienating the type of Pakistani who would be upset about the assassination of a "stooge of the West" semi-secular Shiite woman trying to work within a democratic system in Pakistan. They are, in fact, targeting similar and always have been, in an attempt to sow chaos.

As matter of fact, as I posted above Osama basically put a "fatwa" out against the Pakistani elections in September. This is not like Hamas, where they are trying to win over "the people." They are looking to inspire jihad, and this certainly could be said to be inspirational to their base.

Actually, I just saw your basic point better made on the Counterterrorism blog in a post by Aaron Mannes, about an assassination attempt the previous week:

....In northwest Pakistan a suicide bomber detonated his bomb inside a crowded mosque on Eid al-Adha (the Islamic Feast of Sacrifice which marks the end of the annual hajj.) The attack was an attempt to kill former Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao. Forty-eight people were killed and over 100 were wounded, including Sherpao's son and two grandnephews. Sherpao was unharmed.

This was the second attempt on Sherpao’s life in eight months, the previous attempt at a political rally in nearby Charsadda, 28 were killed and Sherpao was slightly wounded.

That Islamists would attack Sherpao is unsurprising. As Interior Minister he was a top security official and a key player in the Lal Masjid Mosque crackdown that has sparked the present high levels of violence. But for an Islamist to enter a mosque on a major holiday and murder innocent worshipers should be beyond the pale - even for radical Islamists.

Now that one, that would be a dumb operation for them, one that risks alienating their possible base and recruits!

But a Bhutto assassination operation, that would not be a stupid move for them as to their general goals. It has upset the elections and has caused great trouble for the Musharraf government and the Bush administration. Like with their other operations, in the reaction to them, it causes problems for general free movement of society.

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Artappraiser, I just wanted to say that you've had a run of really excellent insightful posts lately. Keep it up.

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CNN is now reporting that she died from hitting her head on a part of the car she was riding in. According to this new report she was supposed to have died from a fractured skull.

A Pakistani Government Official has said they intercepted a radio message from al-Qaeda congratulating their minions for the assassination. This guy's comment could have been written by the Bush/Cheney gang.

Then opportunists will be coming out of the woodwork trying to make political points with this poor woman's murder.

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There's also intercepted reports blaming the Taliban.

I dunno. The Taliban and Al Quaeda are allied organizations, but they are not the same.

This is interesting. The situation seems to be becoming more confused rather than less confused.

Initially, there was a fairly clear narrative of events. Now that narrative, instead of being refined, has been clouded by a handful of competing contradictory narratives.

Interesting.

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Valdron--Excellent post on the various possibilities. Thanks.

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Bhutto's long and tangled list of enemies By Josh Meyer, Los Angeles Times, December 28, 2007

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