McFarlane, Woolsey, Inman Support McCain and Declare Opposition to Use of Torture
An interesting set of headliners -- including former National Security Adviser to Ronald Reagan Robert "Bud" McFarlane, former NSA Director and Bush family pal Bobby Inman, and Committee on the Present Danger Co-Chairman R. James Woolsey -- co-signed a statement strongly opposed to torture as a tool of detainee interrogations and in support of Senator John McCain's position, with whom I agree on this issue.
I do not know what, if anything, McCain has done with the statement -- and have not seen it noted anywhere as of yet, but the statement is important both for its substance and its signatories -- some of whom I am occasionally at odds with.
But I commend all of the signers for agreeing to affix their names to a statement solidly, unambiguously against torture.
Here is the statement:
Letter in Support of John McCain's opposition to use of torture in any form, December 2007Whether in war or peace, there is no place in civilized discourse among nations for torture. The reasons for this should be obvious to experienced leaders:
-- For any nation to use torture invites equivalent treatment of its soldiers by all other nations;-- Torture seldom produces reliable information;
-- The use of torture takes a nation from the moral high ground to the depths of inhuman depravity.
Moral authority is more than a metaphysical abstraction. It is fundamental to garnering respect among nations and any aspiration to lead them.
If a nation expects others to follow, allies must find it worthy of respect -- especially in the humane treatment of prisoners and adherence to the laws of war including the Geneva Convention.
In the years ahead as we wage the global struggle against radical Islam we must have the moral authority to rally others.
We, the undersigned, declare our abhorrence of the use of torture and stand with Senator John McCain in his principled position on this issue.
Honorable Robert McFarlane, LtCol. USMC (ret); former National Security Advisor to President Ronald Reagan
Hon. R. James Woolsey, Former Director of Central Intelligence (DCI); Under Secretary of the Navy
Admiral Bobby Inman, Former Deputy Director of Central Intelligence; Director, National Security Agency
General P. X. Kelley, USMC (ret); Former Commandant of the Marine Corps
Honorable Orson Swindle III, LtCol USMC (ret); Former Commissioner, Federal Trade Commission; POW 6 years in Vietnam Prison
Honorable Everett Alvarez, Commander USN (ret); longest held POW in North Vietnam (8.5 years)
Rear Admiral Robert Shumaker, USN (ret); second longest held POW in North Vietnam (8.0 years)
Major General John Fugh, USA JAG (ret)
Brigadier General David Brahms, USMC JAG (ret)
I had a note from a friend at Sandia National Weapons Laboratories this morning who referred to my suggestion that the "Guantanamo Detainee" be made TIME's person of the year as a "dumbass idea". He asked if I remembered the victims of 9/11.
Of course I remember the victims -- but I also know that the suspension of habeas corpus for any one held by the state -- no matter how monstrous -- makes the rest of the nation's citizens victims as well. I know that torturing detainees will harm for decades America's place as the beacon on the hill.
I'm not empathetic with torture victims. I've never had that sort of experience. John McCain may be. I'm not sure.
My objection to torturing even the most evil of human beings behind 9/11 is that this practice will divide America within. It will divide America from its allies and motivate its enemies. It has already been ferociously divisive even within the White House itself.
Thus, I stand by my nomination of the Guantanamo Detainee -- because how we determine the fate of those held there and what we do with that facility will signal to the world what kind of nation we decide to be.
-- Steve Clemons is Director of the American Strategy Program at the New America Foundation and publishes the popular political blog, The Washington Note













Comments (9)
I amazed to read a statement from Woolsey with which I can agree.
December 15, 2007 8:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Tom -- I have to admit similar personal astonishment. best, Steve Clemons
December 15, 2007 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
This statement by Woolsey, McFarlane, Inman, et al, is the very antithesis of the Bush administration. Proclaiming the moral high ground and a respect for all life, BushCo have shown their utter lack of humanity from the very beginning. They have run the Constitution through the shredder, which is what I suspect they will do with this document.
December 15, 2007 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
That is a nice letter those fine gentlemen signed, except for
There is no "global struggle against radical Islam", unless there is also a "global struggle" against radical Christianity.
Religion is not a factor in the minimal terrorism that our country has experienced. To believe otherwise would be to believe that there is a "global struggle" against Saudis living in Germany. Or a "global struggle" against Mid Easterners. Or a "global struggle" against young men who have completed some flying lessons.
We need to clean up our thinking processes, and learn how our sloppy use of language is damaging our country.
Hoppy in Sacramento
December 15, 2007 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
hoppy,
excellent post.
December 16, 2007 6:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
What's the big deal? George W. Bush opposes torture, too.
December 17, 2007 5:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder, do they side with the same John McCain who voted for the Military Commissions Act in which torture was legalized. How many John McCain's are there?
I don't see how John McCain is being allowed a pass on this. When did we hit the reset button here and go back to John 'Mr. Reasonable Republican' McCain?
It's very easy to abhor torture, but let's look at what the man has actually voted for. If he really opposed torture, he should have filibustered that Act. He should have put a hold on it. Instead, he voted for it, betraying not only America but also his own past as a victim of torture.
So today he's opposed to torture again. He's opposed to torture when it's politically safe to oppose torture, and the same goes for Woolsey and that lot. To them I say, where were you in 2003?
December 17, 2007 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now be fair; the Senator did forthrightly condemn Bush for the signing statement that neutered his nobly fought-for torture amendment -- oh, wait, no, he didn't, actually...Sam Seder doesn't call him John McCave for nothing.
But yes, this is a very good thing, even at this late date. We need many more such letters from many more such people to even begin to overcome the din from the "24"-heads, and to convince those in Congress and elsewhere that opposing torture -- and calling it by its right name -- is actually the position of strength.
December 17, 2007 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Watching Woosley speak gives me the heebie jeebies.
December 18, 2007 6:32 AM | Reply | Permalink