A Crisis Candidates Don't Want to Talk About
A recent Bloomberg News story highlights a moment in a video for the movie ``American Gangster,'' where hip-hop maestro Jay-Z thumbs through a wad of 500-euro notes on a night of cruising the concrete canyons of New York City. Of course he can’t spend Euros in Manhattan, but the scene says something about the value of today’s greenback.
The Bloomberg piece on the dollar's decline begins by reminding us just how cavalier the U.S. was in 1971 when President Richard Nixon, in a stopgap move to cope with the inflationary financing of the Vietnam War, announced that the dollar would no longer be backed by gold: ``It may be our currency, but it's your problem'' was Treasury Secretary John Connally's taunt when the U.S. unhooked the dollar from the gold standard in 1971, unilaterally rewriting the rules of world business in America's favor.
Now Bloomberg notes, “the world is taunting back. Almost four decades after the U.S. tore up the monetary arrangements that governed the post-World War II international economy, the dollar's fall from grace amounts to a tectonic shift in the global hierarchy. This time, the U.S. currency is on the losing side.
“After declining in five of the last six years, the weakest dollar in the era of floating currencies reflects a period of diminished U.S. political and economic hegemony. Whoever wins the White House next year will confront two unpopular choices: Accept the fall in U.S. clout and the rise of new rivals, or rein in record public and consumer debt that the rest of the world no longer wants to bankroll.”
Put simply, a new administration faces two choices: Accept the fact that the U.S. dollar is a declining currency, which means accepting the reality that all imports, including oil , will become more and more expensive. Or, raise interest rates---which will make the dollar more attractive to foreign investors who buy our Treasuries. But higher rates also will make it that much harder both for U.S. consumers and for the government to pay off the heap of debt that has been keeping this country afloat.
Stepping back and surveying what has happened both at home and abroad in recent years, some observers doubt that the dollar will ever recover: “For the first time,” Bloomberg reports, “economists are raising the once-improbable specter that the dollar's monopoly as the world's dominant reserve currency is under threat. "'Part of the depreciation is permanent,’ Harvard University professor Kenneth Froot, who has been a consultant to the Fed, told Bloomberg: `There is no doubt that the dollar must sink against periphery currencies to reflect their increase in competitiveness and productivity.’''
Meanwhile, for years, we have depended on foreigners to buy our dollars (by investing in Treasuries) in order to finance our trade deficits and a national debt of more than $9 trillion. When other countries use their surpluses to buy Treasuries, they are lending us money at a very low rate. If they buy a 10-year U.S. Treasury Bond, we pay them just 4.5 percent. Yet we need them to keep on buying those bonds: the U.S. still requires $2.1 billion a day of other people's money.
But now even our allies are beginning to feel less confidence in the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, and many are beginning to move away from the greenback.Consider what is happening in the Middle East: “Kuwait, freed by the U.S. from Saddam Hussein's army in 1991, unhinged its currency from the dollar in May, and pressure is building for Gulf Arab neighbors to follow suit.” Bloomberg notes. “Qatar's prime minister, Sheikh Hamad bin Jasim bin Jaber al-Thani, complained Nov. 11 that the dollar's drop is cutting oil and gas income, leaving less to invest abroad. The United Arab Emirates may drop the dirham's peg to the dollar, analysts said.” Even “The central bank in Iraq, last month said it, too, wants to diversify reserves away from mostly dollars. “
As for countries that are less fond of us: Just five days ago, Iran and Venezuela proposed discussing an end to the practice of pricing crude in dollars at an Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries summit in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Bloomberg reported that Saudi officials rejected the suggestion.
The Iranians were not happy. "'They get our oil and give us a worthless piece of paper,' complained. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Nov 18 in Riyadh. 'The dollar has no economic value.’'' That day the dollar touched down at $1.4814 per Euro—a low for the dollar since the Euro was started in 1999.
Meanwhile, cash-rich countries like China—which has piled up the world’s largest stash of foreign currencies-- are looking for investments that pay more than the current 4.25 percent return on 10-year Treasury Bonds. “A warning by Cheng Siwei, vice chairman of the National People's Congress, that China will invest its $1.4 trillion in stronger currencies triggered a recent stampede out of the dollar,” Bloomberg notes, quoting economists at UBS AG who say that China doesn’t have to dump dollars to depress the greenback. Accumulating dollars at a slower pace will have the same effect.
Finally, Bloomberg cites economists at Merrill Lynch & Co. estimating that as much as $1.2 trillion in dollar holdings will shift to other currencies in the next five years. ``The global reserve system is fraying; it's falling apart,'' Nobel-laureate economist Joseph Stiglitz told a Bloomberg seminar last month in Tokyo. ``The change in mindset about the use of the dollar in reserves and the movement of the dollar out of reserves will continue to exert downward pressure.''
The flight away from the dollar is feeding on itself. This is a crisis that few presidential candidates want to talk about, but it is something that the next administration will be forced to address.
I don't have an answer to the crisis, but I will say this: we will need an absolutely brilliant Fed Reserve chairman (something we haven't had in a very long time) and a team of financial advisors in the White House capable of standing up to the various special interests that will have a financial stake in how the White House reponds to the crisis.
My own sense is that we are going to have to accept the fall of the dollar--and find ways to make sure that the rising price of oil, gasoline, food, and everything that WalMart imports doesn't put more pressure on famlies living on the bottom half of our economic ladder.
P.S.--The good news, of course, is that a weaker dollar makes our products more enticing. A young friend who manages an American Eagle (clothing) store in a mall in Queens ( not too far from the airports) tells me that this week-end, tourists from abroad were buying suitcases at the mall, then coming to American Eagle. W
When they got to the check-out counter, they just opened their empty suitcases, and let the cashier fill them.. .











Comments (37)
George Dubya has the 'midas' touch, even that bastion of capitalism Syria has seen it's currency, the Syrian pound, climb against the US dollar! Might have something to do with the Bush tax cuts, the Bush endless trillion dollar GWOT, and running the printing presses full speed at the Fed. Every time the Fed lowers interest rates the price of a barrel of oil goes up $20!
November 25, 2007 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reining in the public debt is not going to be that hard: the Bush tax cuts are going to sunset all on their own, returning us to the fiscal regime of the 90s.
November 25, 2007 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to worry! We still have plenty of businesses foreigners will want to buy -- think DynCorp and Blackwater on the block.
In fact the next time you see those gun-toting, Wayfarer-wearing mercenaries on the streets of New Orleans they'll be taking their orders from Russian oligopolists, Saudi sheiks, and Burmese generals.
November 25, 2007 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bronto 1 and JPF 311--
Thanks for your comments.
Bronto 1-- Sadly, I'm afraid that you are entirely right.
JPF 311-- I think there is a very good chance that the next Congress will roll back the Bush tax cuts for the rich. But that doesn't bring us back to where we were in the 1990s, Those tax cuts didn't exist then. And since then, we have spent a fortune on the war in Iraq--not to mention what we have spent on a long menu of pork supporting the war.
November 25, 2007 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Could this be another example of the curtain being pulled back on American capitalism's wizard? Ah, the great and powerful Oz...I mean dollar.
I've been saying for years that ultimately we've been playing with monopoly money - only worth what we pretend and can convince others to believe it is worth. We've created a complex tangled 'global' economic system. It's driving force has been inbridled greed. The cynic in me believes this cimplexity was to hide our greed, robbery and tricks. And now it would seem to have gotten out of our own control and gone beyond our understanding. And so we find ourselves at the mercy of a monster of our own making. If so many people weren't going to suffer terribly I'd be laughing right now.
If we left the gold standard in part because of Vietnam debt, what options do we have now with this horrific Iraq/GWOT debt? With the dollar in reality not worth the paper it's printed on maybe we can pull another coup to save our bacon. Maybe we can convince the world that red is the new black and (-) is really a (+). Maybe we can say about the dollar what all the old comic book or baseball card collectors used to say all the time to justify gross overvaluation - "hey it may be worth something someday".
November 25, 2007 10:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
um, dollarpeso? lol
November 26, 2007 12:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
When we don't allow some friendly Arab country to buy a few container port operations -- what were they going to do? Put them in their pocket and walk them to China? -- we sent a message that we actually do not believe in free and open markets (no surprise there!) but were actually xenophobic, two-faced hypocrits.
If I were them I'd be out of the US dollar, too.
Of course, at some point the $ will be cheap enough and, therefore, our assets, and we'll be desperate enough to sell the crown jewels at any price.
Boeing's new headquarters in Shanghai, anyone?
November 26, 2007 1:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Re: I think there is a very good chance that the next Congress will roll back the Bush tax cuts for the rich.
The next Congress doesn't have to do anything. The tax cuts have an automatic sunset provision meaning that if Congress does nothing the tax cuts disappear.
Re: But that doesn't bring us back to where we were in the 1990s
It gives us the same revenue stream we had in the 90s, which should put the budget back in the black (assuming we get out of Iraq of course).
Re: And since then, we have spent a fortune on the war in Iraq
Yes, Iraq. I am of course assuming we get out of Iraq, or scale our presence there way, way down. I think that's a fairly safe assumption if the Dems take the White House.
November 26, 2007 3:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Boeing isn't moving, in fact Boeing is absolutely loving this. The way things are going, Boeing will take 100% of the market - Airbus is already making distressed noises that they are unable to compete against Boeing given the current US$/Euro exchange rate. If anything, weak dollar might make some of the outsourced manufacturing jobs return to the US.
Now I only wish I didn't have any US dollars... good thing I'm earning Euros now!
November 26, 2007 6:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks to all of you for your comments--
I'm afraid that you're right. The only winners will be companies like Boeing--and workers that manage to pick up jobs as a result of Boeing's success. Though in many industires, those jobs will be out-sourced.
The losers will be American families who have to grapple with rising prices on everything from the toys they buy at Wal-Mart to oil, food and gas for the car. Meanwhle the price of healthcare and education will continue to rise . . .In other words, the necessities of life will continue to become more and more expensive.
JPF 311-- regarding the money that we have spent on the war in Iraq--Even if we stopped spending tomorrow (and we won't) the war in Iraq has added to our debt. At the end of the 1990s, we had a surplus. With that surplus, we could have put money into health care reform, education, global warming . . .Now that money is gone.
And even if (when) we move our troops out of Iraq, we are still going to have to spend an enormous amount trying to rebuild the infrastructure of the country. You can't just bomb a country into the ground and walk away.
Wait--I take that back--GWB can; but the rest of us can't.
November 26, 2007 8:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree. The falling dollar is not a crisis and candidates shouldn't be talking about it much.
The decline of American power and prestige has been caused by George W. Bush. It will take the rest of my life, and then some, to repair the damage. Instead of tearing down one another, Obama and Clinton should be competing to talk about this.
Cheap Chinese imports are not good for Americans. Toys painted with lead poison our children. Inferior cloth wears holes and bleeds colors after only a few washes. Screws molded from inferior metal break under the torque of a manual screwdriver. Fiber optic Christmas trees wired with inferior copper burn out after a year or two, if they don't burn down your house.
Instead of quality products and good jobs, Americans have a bunch of inferior garbage and a ton of debt to show for our wonderful strong dollar. Let it fall.
November 26, 2007 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Iraq is obviously the big-ticket item, but the US has troops deployed in at least 130 countries around the world today. Compared to say, Vietnam, the living conditions at these bases is luxurious. And private contractors now build and maintain the bases. So even with any imagined withdrawel from Iraq, the price tag will continue to be hefty for maintaining US military presence world-wide.
Neoboho
November 26, 2007 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't have a timeline, and I may be into some wishful thinking, but de-globalizing and re-localizing the economy will be what the future holds in store. Although global trade has been going on since the days of the Silk Road and the Phoenician sailors, the difference now are the things that are traded. Getting back to basics will be a top priority, especially when the skewing that cheap oil has wrought gets taken out of the equation and we are left having to do things with muscle power again.
I just hope America does not go down the road of fascism in the face of power-down, but I'm not holding my breath on that. As for next year's election, I don't have much hope that any of the candidates will veer from the PNAC agenda of Pox (not pax) Americana, that is if something doesn't happen between now and then that will enable this administration to forego elections altogether.
Personally, I don't see any real hope for America until our country and its hubristic ego is utterly crushed. Maybe then people will know the real value of life and not just its price.
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- We do not act rightly because we have virture, we have virtue because we act rightly.
November 26, 2007 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jalmari--
I agree that George Bush's presidency has trarnished our reputation around the world--an it will take at least a generation to repair.
And the lack confidence in our government is one reason why the dollar is falling. d.
But we were relying on the rest of the world to finance our debt (by buying our Treasuries) long before GWB came ot office. For a couple of decades, we have been buying the world's goods, and they have been buying our paper (dollars in the form of U.S. Treasuries.)
Since our dollars are backed by nothing other than our reputation, it was clear that at some point in the future, the trade would no longer appeal to other countries.
Whether or not China's products are well-made (and some are extremely well made while others are shoddy), the point is that most Americans cannot afford to buy many items made in America (even if we still made them) because wages are so much higher here. (I'm not saying that wages are too high or that American workers earn too much; it's just that, because the cost of living is so much higher here, wages are much higher, making anything made here much more expensive.)
Finally, the big problem is not whether a weaker dollar will still let us buy christmas tree lights from China. The big problem is what shortages we are going to face as we try to buy oil. It's quite possible that at some point in the future, the world's oil producers will decide to price oil in a different currency. Even if they don't, as the dollar continues to slide, they will continue to push up the price of oil in order to come out even (with the same profit).
Now one could argue that higher prices for oil and gasoline will force us to conserve and find alternative sources of energy--which would be good. But people who commute long distances to work (and live in areas with little public transportation) will be hard-pressed to conserve gasoline. And people who live in very cold climates can only turn the thermostate down so far. Finally, energy is needed for everything that we do still manufacture . .
And we can't suddenly switch to alternative sources of energy that we haven't yet developed.
At some point, as the dollar declines, the govt will probably have to step in and raise interest rates, making the dollar stronger (more attractive to foreigners.) But this, in turn, will exacerbate the real estate recession that we now face; fewer homes will be sold and there will be more foreclosures.
November 26, 2007 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am sorry to have to disagree, but the US dollar has been substantially overvalued for at least 5 years and it has been killing what remains of productive US exporters. A re-balancing between imports and exports may be painful but it is healthy for the US economy in the long run.
sPh
November 26, 2007 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
"God says he can get me out of this, but you're fooked."
November 26, 2007 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Re: Iraq is obviously the big-ticket item, but the US has troops deployed in at least 130 countries around the world today.
Plus ca change, plus la meme chose. We had those bases in the 90s too (or others like them)-- on top of the Gulf War I and the over-the-top Reagan military build-up of the 80s. Iraq is the real budget-buster in the military budget. End the Iraq War, sunset the tax cuts and do something serious about healthcare- the federal budget will be back in the black.
November 26, 2007 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Re: Even if we stopped spending tomorrow (and we won't) the war in Iraq has added to our debt.
True, but that's past tense. If we stopped spneding on Iraq we would not be adding to that debt. And as I pointed out above the Iraq War as spending has its 80s equiavlent in the Reagan military buildup of the 80s and the Gulf War. None of which prevented us from achieving fiscal stability of the 90s, though I recall a lot of people in sackcloth and ashes claiming that the US could never balance its budget after Reagan's tax cuts and military spending. As I said above, plus ca change, plus la meme chose.
November 26, 2007 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Re: But people who commute long distances to work (and live in areas with little public transportation) will be hard-pressed to conserve gasoline.
Several strategies:
A) Work from home a day or two a week
B) Carpool
C) Use the car a lot less for non-work commutes
D) Buy a hybrid
D) If all else fails, move closer and to hell with worries about kids going to whites-only upper-crusty schools, the snob appeal of gated communities and so forth.
November 26, 2007 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
The underlying assumption behind Government Bonds is that they will one day be paid in not-too-inflated dollars that will buy real goods and services. Those bonds aren't really being paid, though, just replaced with new bonds. Someday the music will have to stop, won't it? The other assumption - that our children, or grandchildren will enslave themselves to the bondholders and pay the bonds off with real goods and services seems unrealistic. Our children will, one way or another, repudiate the debt.
November 26, 2007 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
sp healey and Neolotus-- Thanks for joining in.
Sp Healey--I agree that the dollar has been substantially overvalued. So the re-pricing is "fair."
The problem is that many families who live on the bottom two steps of our 5-step economic ladder will suffer. They are not the people who have been designing our energy policy. They are not the ones driving gas-guzzling SUVs. Their wages (adjusted for inflation) have not been going up -- and a jump in inflation will hit them hard.
note to jpf 311-- most of these people do not have the option of working from home two or three days a week, or buying a hybrid--too expensive. Car-pooling works for people living in densely populated suburbs--who all work in the same general area (i.e. midtown Manhattan or Wall Street) but it doesn't work for people living in sparsely populated rural areas.)
Sp Healey-- Ideally, a weaker dollar would revive U.S. manufacturing and provide many workers with better-paying jobs. But I just don't see that happening. We have become a service economy in part because the cost of living (and therefore wages) in this country make most of our products very expensive when exported abroad.
Even though the fall of the dollar has brought the prices of our exports down, it can't begin to bridge the enormous gap between the cost of labor (including benefits) in the U.S.versus salaries and benefits in the developing world. Even when workers are relatively well-paid in these countries, the cost of living is just so much lower . . .
We can produce luxury items (though in this area we don't always compete well with Europe) but we can’t compete on textiles, most clothing, low-cost autos . . .
At one time, we had a lock on products like laptops. But that is no longer true. China can compete with Dell (in China’s own market) where they can offer a good product--and service centers where the personnel speak Chinese.
The cost of health benefits also makes our products more expensive. And even if we have national health reform, employers will be expected to spend as much as they do now to support national health insurance.
The good news, for employers, is that they will no longer be on the front lines absorbing further health care inflation.
Neolotus-- One can argue that it would not be a terrible thing for this country if, like Great Britain after World War II, we ceased to be the world's #1 economic power. Certainly, we haven't handled the job very well.
But if this happens too quickly, the people on the bottom half of our economic ladder will suffer. This is what concerns me. The dollar has been falling quickly. Look at the price of gold. This signals that professional investors are bracing for a currency crisis.
November 26, 2007 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
The flight away from the dollar is feeding on itself.
Stoopid, stoopid furriners. Had they bought USTs over the past 10 weeks they'd have made a fortune.
This is a crisis that few presidential candidates want to talk about . . . .
And for good reason. The effects are already baked into the cake -- and voters know it.
November 26, 2007 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm pessimistic, JPF311. The 5 "superbases" in Iraq will remain after the "end" of the Iraq war. The basic Pentagon stratergery requires it - "Lilypads" for the deployment of light forces in the region. Plus, the PDAs (Poduction Sharing Agreements) with non-Iraq hydrocarbon harvesters require the bases just of protect the oil and gas infrastructure. But my idea is that cost of establishing and servicing those bases, wherever they may be, is increasing, and factors such as the declining dollar will add significantly to this increase. Less directly, there are the initial costs which have included in several cases since Dubya arrived the forgiveness of foreign debt, say for Pakistan, Uzbekestan and so on. You don't really "forgive" a debt like that...you assume it. But its hard to count given secrecy and security considerations. I've read that the Pentagon doesn't even have a figure, and what it does have typically excludes many factors such as how much does KBR charge to run a base.
I just don't think ending the war in Iraq will be that significant with regard to our domestic economy. Not because it couldn't, but rather than whatever military assets are freed-up, they will simply be redeployed elsewhere.
Neoboho
November 26, 2007 8:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ms. Mahar,
Yes, I agree about the suffering. There is more to come, unfortunately. Although I am in the lower 2 quintiles, real privation has not hit yet. However, I expect this to change in the coming year.
For my part, I am working on building local community in my tiny town of about 2200 in rural Minnesota. As a member of the planning commission I will be pushing for us to begin addressing the coming changes and what we can do, as a community, about it.
My first concern is locking in local food supplies. We do have our own power plant and a few other resources. What I hope is to initiate some creativity, but I fear it will take the situation to become far more dire before the people here will be ready to start thinking outside the box. Until then, I'll plug along and keep my ear to the ground.
Oh, and btw, along with a crashing dollar, the other big thing looming large on the horizon is peak oil. Re-localizing the economy will become a necessity even if the dollar wasn't crashing.
Thank you for responding, and, for all your efforts.
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November 26, 2007 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
It appears to me that there's a similar breakdown in economics as there is in global environmentalism. And perhaps it's no irony that the two are at times essentially the same.
I've often wondered at the blind optimism we seem to have regarding continued growth in profits and and in markets. There was always something that just didn't add up. The thing that really gets me is something that seems both basic & obvious - population. We now total what, somewhere over 6 billion people globally? Fossil fuels ARE finite, to argue otherwise is just silly. New nations in the industrialized ranks mean more demand on all resources - food, fresh water, fuel, jobs. Just how many pairs of Diesel jeans are those new 'wealthy' Chinese or Indian workers going to be able to afford? How many Wal-Marts and McDonalds will we need to foist on the world to keep thing rosey? What about here? What yet to be defined jobs will satiate our own nation's growing needs? I often wonder if anyone is really doing the math on all of this. Water in particilar will almost certainly be an issue in future elections. The war for this has yet to be recognized but it's there. This will impact food supplies, and both together will impact worker's lives & jobs. The dollar is of concern for sure but what of the larger 'life' forces which hang on the brink & yet receive far too little attention?
All on all I am rather scared of what is to come in the remaining years of my life, both for me personally and that will determine whether I have a family or not. 10+10 people is still twenty. And if we can only hire, feed and provide jobs for 6 there's going to be a problem. And it won't go away when you add 10 more people to the equasion. Is there some math I'm just not getting? I just can't help think about all of these things as closely related. It confuses me but not as much as those who think the US dollar is some mythical god-like entity that, if prayed & sacrificed to enough, will somehow deliver us from our man-made hell. It all just seems much much bigger than that and I truly want to be optimistic...I'm just finding it hard to be right now.
November 27, 2007 1:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Re: Someday the music will have to stop, won't it?
It hasn't, not for 200+ years. Governments, not having a natural life span, can have immortal debts too.
November 27, 2007 3:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Re: Not because it couldn't, but rather than whatever military assets are freed-up, they will simply be redeployed elsewhere.
I see things very differently. The population is sick and tired of war, just as we were at the end of Vietnam. If a Democrat sits in the White House two years from now s/he is going to have a lot of festering domestic problems that will take precedence over foreign adventurism. Healthcare for example. I don't see us indulging in a lot of expensive military extravaganzas in the immediate future, post-Bush. Neither the will nor the $$ will be there.
November 27, 2007 3:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Re: most of these people do not have the option of working from home two or three days a week, or buying a hybrid--too expensive.
Then we are not talking about people with long commutes. It costs a lot of money to live among the waana-bes in Snob Heights out in the exurbs. That's where the aging Yuppies park their Hummers behind gated communities ruled by neighborhood associations that would banish them for planting a pink rose instead of a yellow one. Working class folk live in older, declining suburbs closer in and usually have less communting distance. Most people I know of this sort have ten miles or less driving distance to get to work.
November 27, 2007 3:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
It may be inferior garbage but it's shiny, plentiful and cheap :-)
November 27, 2007 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fear not, Abu Dhabi just bought a large chunk of Citigroup. We will be saved. Wait...Citigroup shaved off its workforce by 17k this year, and more layoffs are planned to cover the 45% loss in stock value the institution has suffered this year. But fortunately Mexicans are still shipping money home - Citigroups purchase of Banomex may pay off yet...big time.
But it's all Chinese arithmetic to me, so I agree with your comments. Economics does seem to be a faith-based science. It makes me wonder if the right should offer economics instead of intelligent design in order to diss Darwin.
Neoboho
November 27, 2007 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Again, thank you all for your comments. It's good to hear new voices joining the conversation.
McBoo wrote: "Water in particilar will almost certainly be an issue in future elections. The war for this has yet to be recognized but it's there. This will impact food supplies, and both together will impact worker's lives & jobs"
This is an extremely important point. I'm afraid water will become a commodity -- like oil. We will need some global oversight to make sure that it is fairly distributed; we can't let profits decide how it is allocated, unless we want world-wide wars over water.
But I'm not quite as pessimistic as you are McBoo. The only way that we are going to be able to survive as a globe is if we begin to share the world's resources. The traditional divide between "the West" (the haves) and "the Rest" (the have nots) won't work any longer.
The good news is that "the Rest" are already moving up--whether or not we want to share. Living conditions are improving in many parts of the developing world--hence the greater demand for food, energy, etc. In the long run, this is good. And China's growth will benefit many other countires in Asia.
I'm hoping that as other countries become more powerful they will also be more realistic than we have been. Hisotorically, we have always been hooked on the idea of infinite growth. This country seemed so rich in natural resources, and then, too, we believed that a Christian god smiled on us. . . .Manifest Destiny.
Other countries tend to take a less optimistic view of things--which means that they are more likely to recognize that resources are finite. Certainly, other countries have taken global warming far more seriously than we have.
. Randy b wrote: "The underlying assumption behind Government Bonds is that they will one day be paid in not-too-inflated dollars that will buy real goods and services. Those bonds aren't really being paid, though, just replaced with new bonds. Someday the music will have to stop, won't it? The other assumption - that our children, or grandchildren will enslave themselves to the bondholders and pay the bonds off with real goods and services seems unrealistic. Our children will, one way or another, repudiate the debt."
Randy B--It's very hard to predict what our children and grandchildren will do, but if I were a foreign govt, I definitely would be shifting out of U.S. Treasuries. Over time, it does seem very likely that those bonds will be worth less and less.
JPF 311 points out that the U.S. govt has never defaulted --which is true. But state and municipal governments have. That said,I don't expect a default by the federal govt anytime in the foreseeable future. I suspect that our economic decline will be more like the decline of Great Britain after WW II.
Btw JPF 311, when you write that " Working class folk live in older, declining suburbs closer in and usually have less communting distance. Most people I know of this sort have ten miles or less driving distance to get to work." it strikes me that you don't know many people in the West.
November 27, 2007 9:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the reply Maggie! Sorry for sounding so gloomy. I'm not really as "down" as one might think but rather I like to think of it as being analytical and honest. I'm reminded of the old saying from back where I grew up in PA - "You can #@$% in one hand and wish in the other, see which one fills up first!" Crude but it does sort of capture the essence of things. ; )
I couldn't agree with you more on this. Of course I am admittedly pessimistic and as such I see a small problem with this - we've never shared anything...ever. In fact what nation or empire in the history of the world has show that kind of pragmatic approach to resources even when resources were far more plentiful and the world's population (and thus the strain on those resources) was far less? There have been wars for resources. At times they've been exchanged for one another and bartered for peace or something else of value but I'm really struggling to find many examples of them ever being "shared".
In fact the whole idea of sharing runs counter to our consumerist and capitalistic system doesn't it? In our own country the unemployed are viewed as lazy (it's their fault) and even the people now losing their homes in the housing crisis are seen as being inept and therefore they themselves are being blamed for things. I just can not see America saying to itself and the world - "yes we need to change and start using resources less and more wisely because we need to share them with China and India and everyone else". And if oil is so important and treated with such selfishness just imagine what we'll do with a resource as immediately important as water. The system in place within our own country in regard to regulating water is archaic and fraught with problems. Until we address our own internal water infrastructure the larger arena of the world is simply unassailable. In addition, sharing resources would mean less profits and higher prices - two things that give America a nasty rash which only seems to be soothed through military adventures to secure those resources for ourselves. And with our nation pioneering the path of self importance and greed in the modern era I'm rather skeptical that new rising powers would not in turn follow our example. Humanity has rarely show such wisdom and forethought and I'm skeptical that it will change course now.
I also think you're correct in mentioning Manifest Destiny. I've just recently started reading The Greek Achievement: The Foundation of the Western World by Charles Freeman. I've only just started but in the beginning he mentions the polished, romanticized treatment the West applied to that civilization. It was largely done with contemporary motives in mind. It was carefully sculpted and controlled. It was used in part to prop up and justify European classism and imperialism. There was a race to be as "Classical" as possible and elevate oneself above others. This manipulated self importance and the twisted justifications seem remarkably similar to our own Manifest Destiny. But we've trumped that by not only altering other civilization's histories for our purposes but we've gone ahead and altered our own history and continue to use those distortions to justify our motives and actions. It's our ongoing attempt to convince ourselves and the world that we're the best thing ever invented by man. And to do so by any means necessary.
I hope I'm completely wrong here. I hope mankind (the part with the power to either hurt or help) gets it right. I hope that there's a renaissance here in America and we pioneer a new age of thought and understanding. There's far more at stake now than maybe ever in the history of mankind and certainly more lives are at risk. But until we can conquer our greed and rebuke the "greed is good" approach I see little chance of this happening. I'm not a religious man but if I were I'd have to say that greed would be the worst of all sins. It is what drives us down terrible paths and is often behind many of the other more popular sins. Not only is it a vehicle driving us to destruction, it is also an obstacle blocking both our ability to see clearly what we are doing and any efforts we do make to effect change.
I apologize if I've wandered far off topic here. But as I see it trade, money and resources are three heads of the same monster. Maybe monster is too strong a word, I have no problem with those three things. They are 3 important columns which support civilization. We just haven't been very responsible in how we use them and have allowed greed to take the drivers seat and this is something I think we need to alter and do so quickly.
November 27, 2007 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
The argument made in the piece takes the side that higher dollar value represents a stronger economy; which, at least from a capital market perspective, is sensible. But there is counterargument that a cheaper dollar energizes the domestic manufacturing and trade markets; which is also sensible.
A cheaper dollar hurts return on capital, which constrains credit and deflects capital. We've been living for 25-30 years in a capital expansion where foreign investment has been a staple of the economy. Lower the value of the dollar and the ROC and foreign investment migrates to better returns. The current state of economic equilibrium will change if the dollar remains cheap.
A cheaper dollar improves industrial output, exports and GDP. Imports become more expensive, the arbitrage between US$ and foreign currency tightens which encourages domestic production, and while gross economic growth slows, distribution of the slower growth is more broad (a teaser for progressives). Some might even argue that the resulting cooler economy spurns irrational exhuberance in favor of the slow and steady. In this scenario a gold standard would be more hurtful than helpful.
As for debt ratios, a cheap dollar helps balance trade deficits, as imports become more costly and exports cheaper. 2006's US trade deficit was 6.4% of GDP. Imagine if this were flipped and that $860 billion stayed in the US.
Couple this with higher taxes (roll-back or expiration of the Bush cuts) and we could see surpluses again. If we're really smart, we would also address the cost of healthcare, which would be a further benefit to the middle-class.
I don't want to oversell the value of a cheap dollar, but imperically we can see that the capital-market fueled economy has bypassed the middle-class no matter who controls the Whitehouse and/or the Congress. The result has been, predictably, a massive redistribution of wealth to the wealthiest 2%, and the rest of us with credit card debt, negative-amortized mortgages, and no longer a sense that incomes will rise to meet these challenges.
It would be nice to see the middle-class with more money in their pockets from real wages, and not just Walmart's $2K promise in annual savings.
/c
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November 27, 2007 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
jconorflynn--
everything you say makes perfect sense--- except . . . .
What type of goods can the U.S. manufacture at a sufficiently cheap price to make $860 billion of those goods competitive on the world market??
Wages in the U.S. are so much higher than in the developing world (because the cost of living is so high here) that even a weaker dollar won't close the gap between the cost of goods we manufacture and the cost of goods manufactured in China or other developing countries. And, in many areas, the quality of the goods manufactured in developing countires is good enough to make them very competitive. We lost the market for many electronic consumer goods long ago, we can't compete on textiles (ours are too expensive) and in a global market our automobiles are not very competitive (partially due to high cost of health care here.)
I'm not an expert in manufacturing so perhaps there is a whole line of low-cost goods that we could manufacture cheaply and sell abroad. Can anyone suggest areas ripe for development?
Also, we can manufacture and sell luxury goods, but there we're competing with Europe --and sometimes their design is simply better . . .
See my reply on Nov 26, 7:26 to jp Healey.
November 28, 2007 7:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maggie, fair points about American manufacturing, but I think there’s actually more to it. We hear a lot about mill closures, whether they be textile or furniture. And Detroit it seems is always about to crater. But beyond the most media covered stories, there is a considerable manufacturing infrastructure that continues to outperform its rivals in productivity measures.
The Institute for Supply Management reported earlier this year upticks in raw material orders in the following manufacturing sectors: nonmetallic mineral products; fabricated metal products; food, beverage and tobacco; chemical products; petroleum and coal; computer and electronic products; transportation equipment; machinery; wood products; textile mills; and electrical equipment, appliances and components.
What’s missing from this list is finished goods manufacturing, which as you pointed out has gone offshore and is hard to compete with when considering cost of living and wage disparities. Just the other day I heard a report on NPR about sock manufacturing wherein Jimmy Baker, owner of Baker Hosiery, explained his company’s economic disadvantage is in stitching the toe of the sock, which is labor intensive. Up to that point in the manufacturing process, costs are the same the world over—same yarns and same sock making machines. Likewise in other “unfinished” manufacturing sectors, worldwide costs are pretty much in parity (in fact transport and electricity may even hand some US firms an advantage). It’s in brute labor that we cannot compete with Honduras (in the case of socks), China and India.
Raw, component, or unfinished goods, live in a different economy. As Jimmy so ably pointed out, raw materials and machinery are the same cost the world over. Lower the cost of the US dollar and we’ll see foreign demand for such unfinished goods increase. Some commodities are uniquely regional and therefore immune to a cheap dollar; think minerals, ores, and wood pulp.
We will not see the garment mills in North Carolina come back on line (remember when they were in Wooster and Bridgeport?), but we will see increases in textile manufacturing. And while highly automated manufacturing may not produce the same volume of jobs as Detroit did a century ago, they nonetheless do increase employment and actually create better jobs (even in the hey day of American manufacturing, no one would turn a job down at the Bethlehem Steel for a job in the Triangle Shirt-Waist Factory).
Manufacturing accounted for 14% or GDP and 11% of the labor force in 2006. As such, even minor increases in the percent of GDP and labor force have profound domestic economic impact. It represents money that stays in country and enjoys better distribution than capital-based industry.
As for the European luxury goods, I’d be surprised if they continue manufacturing them in the EU at the current rate if the dollar stays down. In the short term, Europe won’t raise the prices of goods sold in the US because the American consumer will spurn the increases and the American market is too important to Europe. This will force Europe to offshore the manufacture of the goods. Europe will need a partner who can be trusted to maintain product quality and their intellectual property. The US may be just the right solution.
/c
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November 28, 2007 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boeing isn't necessarily doing so great in the long term, nor are they really an American company anyways. They have serious competition for Airbus, and much of their best technology is in large part foreign developed by independent companies, and much of their supply chain is also foreign owned and built. The number of American jobs and tax revenue from Boeing is probably going to continue shrinking.
btw, another reason GM and US manufacturing in general is doing so poorly is HC costs in the US are astronomical compared with far more efficient systems in Japan, Korea, and EU nations.
November 28, 2007 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
And exactly when have George Bush or Dick Cheney or any of the Republicans -- and many Democratic elites, for that matter -- given a second thought to "families living on the bottom half of our economic ladder"? Their only response to problems people are having on the bottom of the ladder, is to climb higher!
November 28, 2007 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink