Time to end the phony, and historically inaccurate, debate

Turns out you can tune out S&N and skip their new book, Break Through. They have nothing to bring to the table but petty attacks and historically-inaccurate straw men.

S&N spend far more time attacking the environmental community and Al Gore (and even Rachel Carson!) than they ever do proposing a viable solution. Worse, they don't even attack the real environmental community -- they spend their time creating a strawman that is mostly a right-wing stereotype of environmentalists.

Now it turns out they support the exact same thing the environmental community -- and energy technologists like me -- have been pushing for many years: an aggressive and intelligent regulatory strategy coupled with a significant increase in the energy R&D budget.

To my great surprise, they have taken up my challenge and endorsed Barack Obama's terrific climate plan. So why are we fighting? Only because S&N keep attacking, keep trying to rewrite history.

S&N claim over and over and over again that environmentalists don't support increases in clean energy budgets. They even claim I don't support an increase in the budget of the very office I ran at the Energy Department -- and that " 'experts' like Romm" shift our analysis "after the political winds changed direction." Silly (and petty).

In this post, I will set the record straight.

Do S&N somehow believe they are the only ones who have been campaigning for more funding on clean energy and that no one else deserves credit?

They want to rewrite history to create a phony debate apparently so they can look like contarians and stir interest in their work.

I have never met an environmentalist or energy expert who wasn't committed to increasing the clean energy budget -- I myself have been fighting for major increases for two decades. We just never thought it was the most important thing -- obviously neither does Obama, or else he wouldn't have included every regulation and mandate favored by environmentalists (and energy technologists). Nobody would include a regulation or mandate that isn't absolutely necessary -- as S&N like to point out, they aren't politically popular.

[You may ask, if, contrary to what S&N claim, environmentalists have been pushing for much higher clean energy budgets for years, why aren't the budgets much higher? I will give the surprising answer to that question below.]

But for $150 billion over 10 years, S&N are apparently willing to set aside their previous distrust of fuel economy standards and tough emissions caps. They are the ones whose views have shifted radically over the years as the political winds have changed.

Who knew the differences between me and them were purely rhetorical -- they dislike Gore, Carson, and environmentalists who point out the dangers of global warming, whereas I like those folk a great deal. They want all the credit for pushing a positive solutions-based approach to climate, whereas I want to spread the credit around to those who actually deserve it.

S&N's core argument is that environmentalists only preach doom and gloom and sacrifice, and that solving global warming ...

... will require a more optimistic narrative from the environmental community. Gore's An Inconvenient Truth, like Silent Spring, was considered powerful because it marshaled the facts into an effective (read: apocalyptic) story.....

In promoting the inconvenient truth that humans must limit their consumption and sacrifice their way of life to prevent the world from ending, environmentalists are not only promoting a solution that won't work, they've discouraged Americans from seeing the big solutions at all. For Americans to be future-oriented, generous, and expansive in their thinking, they must feel secure, wealthy, and strong.

Gore has never promoted such an inconvenient truth -- they should read his book or listen to his speeches -- and indeed I don't know any major environmentalist or environmental group who has promoted such a message. Just spend some time on the climate websites for NRDC, Environmental Defense, Sierra Club, and Greenpeace. They all embrace a clean energy future. S&N might even read my 1999 book, Cool Companies: How the Best Businesses Boost Profits and Productivity by Cutting Greenhouse Gas Emissions. I guess we all missed the "pain and sacrifice" memo.

Do S&N seriously believe that Obama would be embracing a mandated return to 1990 levels of greenhouse gas emissions by 2020 and an 80% cut by 2050 if the apocalyptic message of Gore and the environmental community had not been so persuasive? Are S&N suggesting that the politically-savvy Obama has been able to put on the table every necessary regulation and mandate simply because he threw in $150 billion for technologies? Be serious.

Or is it just possible that environmentalists were right all along? That once people realized how serious global warming is they would embrace big solutions, including regulatory ones.

S&N claim:

The regulation-centered approach is thus doomed to fail in one way or another: Price carbon too high and risk economic consequences and political backlash; price it too low, and dirty-energy sources will not cost enough to make clean energy cost-competitive.

Yet Obama's proposal is nothing if not regulation centered. Indeed, his plan has more regulations and mandates and standards than any plan I've ever seen.

S&N have to rewrite history to make their case that they have been voices crying in the wilderness for clean energy funding. They claim:

The absence of an effective lobby for clean energy explains, in part, why public investment in energy research and development in the United States dropped from an already modest $8 billion in 1980 to $3 billion in 2005.

Maybe that is a small part of the reason -- but S&N's point in "The Death of Environmentalism," was that we need a new environmental paradigm because the old one -- regulations like CAFE and cap-and-trade -- have not succeeded. Well the reason we didn't get the regulations we wanted is that conservatives fought them bitterly -- and spread disinformation about the climate problem, undercutting the urgency for action.

What S&N apparently don't understand is that the reason we don't have much higher clean energy budgets is NOT that environmentalists didn't push them, but -- drumroll, please -- that conservatives fought them bitterly and spread disinformation about the climate problem, undercutting the urgency for action. Indeed, conservatives have repeatedly tried to shut down the Department of Energy's applied research effort and the whole DOE.

S&N write, "public investment in energy research and development in the United States dropped from an already modest $8 billion in 1980 to $3 billion in 2005." That is doubly misleading. First $8 billion in 1980 is not modest -- it was more than double what the rest of the world was spending combined. Second, that drop didn't really occur over 25 years as they suggest -- the vast majority occurred over three years when President Reagan came in and gutted President Carter's programs for efficiency and renewables, disparaging them as government boondoggles and unnecessary interference in the marketplace.

President Clinton began increasing the budget the instant he took office, but once the Gingrich Congress came in with its passionate hatred of all applied energy research -- S&N should read some of the hearings I testified at in those days -- we were playing a strictly defense in game, trying to save the entire clean energy budget from being zeroed out. And I don't remember S&N speaking up back then for those budgets.

Because of an aggressive effort by the administration (thank you, Al Gore) and a strong effort by many of us at DOE to make the case that clean energy research had great value to the nation, coupled with aggressive lobbying by the environmental community (that S&N appear completely unaware of), we actually kept the clean energy R&D budget from falling significantly -- when Gingrich and his allies wanted to zero out the whole enterprise. THAT is why clean energy funding is as low as it is.

Ignorantly, S&N write

How might history have been different had environmentalists and their political allies 20 years ago proposed that the nations of the world make a massive, shared investment in clean energy, better and more efficient housing development, and more comfortable and efficient transportation systems?

Here is where S&N are very confused -- history wouldn't have been much different because such a proposal in 1987 during the Reagan Administration would have accomplished nothing. It would have been decried as a big-government, pork-barrel, tax-and-spend liberal plan and disappeared into political oblivion. Same in 1995.

I have always believed that the public sector clean energy budget should be much, much higher, but what I learned from the 1990s was that politically it was going to be at least as difficult as CAFE or cap-and-trade. And, of course, it is much less important than increasing private sector clean energy spending through intelligent regulations, since that could be 10 to 100 times more money.

S&N need to rewrite history because that's the only way they can't make their argument that environmentalists are pain and sacrifice scare-mongers with no positive vision and no political savvy.

S&N also seem painfully aware of the role conservative strategist Frank Luntz has played in co-opting the technology message from the Democrats. As I explained in my book and my blog, Luntz figured out that his side couldn't be seen as opposing all action on global warming. He also knew -- again contrary to S&N's claim -- that the Democrats and environmentalists had in fact been pushing the pro-technology positive message. In his famous 2002 "Straight Talk" memo on climate change messaging he writes:

Technology and innovation are the key in arguments on both sides. Global warming alarmists use American superiority in technology and innovation quite effectively in responding to accusations that international agreements such as the Kyoto accord could cost the United States billions. Rather than condemning corporate America the way most environmentalists have done in the past, they attack us for lacking faith in our collective ability to meet any economic challenges presented by environmental changes we make. This should be our argument. We need to emphasize how voluntary innovation and experimentation are preferable to bureaucratic or international intervention and regulation.

This is what I call the technology trap, where clean energy technology is used to delay action, rather than to foster action, on climate change.

Politically it was genius. Democrats had been arguing for technology and regulation since both are in fact needed -- whereas Luntz and his disciple George Bush were saying you could have everything the Democrats wanted, but without those annoying bureaucrats telling everyone what to do. "Technology" became Bush's energy and climate mantra, as I and others have explained many times.

You can also see why some of us were so very annoyed when S&N came along repeating the Luntz/Bush message -- especially the dangerous myth that radical breakthrough technology is needed to solve the climate problem -- and claiming that environmentalists never believed in the clean energy message -- and leaving everyone with the impression that they opposed regulation and that in fact the pursuit of regulation was misguided, leading ultimately to the Death of Environmentalism. It is hard enough fighting disinformation from your political enemies, but virtually impossible when it comes from your supposed friends.

Now that S&N has endorsed the Obama energy/climate plan, it's clear they have nothing original to add to the policy or political discussion substantivelly -- unless you believe their historically inaccurate claim that they alone are the creators and champions of the positive technology message.

More than S&N, it is ironically Luntz and Bush that have helped opened the door to the technology message, by repeating it over and over and over again. But if we actually do significantly increase public clean energy funding, it will only be because people believe the apocalyptic climate message that S&N disdain.

The country simply has too many problems and too little excess domestic spending dollars and too much political power in the hands of anti-big-government conservatives for something like "creating the jobs of the 21st century" to be a winning argument by itself for $150 billion in new spending.

So the bottom line is that I don't think S&N bring anything new to the discussion but unjustified attacks on environmental straw men that play into the conservative's hands. Now that they have endorsed Obama's plan, it is clear all our differences are just rhetorical. And that isn't worth much more ink.


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Joe,

You could have avoided all your phony posturing and intellectually dishonest attacks if you had actually read the book you purport to review.

S&N didn't come out for a plan that couples regulation and investment after Obama made his announcement or because you challenged them to do so. They did it explicitly in their book. Which was released over a week ago.

You should pick up a copy and read it. You might enjoy it.

"There is no doubt that the effort to reduce and stabilize global greenhouse gas emissions will require a major regulatory effort to make sure that everyone is playing by the same rules, provide regulatory certainty so that nations and businesses alike can play their investments, and increase the cost of fossil fuels relative to cleaner energy sources. But regulation cannot be the sole policy egg in the global warming basket, for without investments to encourage technological breakthroughs, we won't come close to achieving the emissions reductions we need to stabilize the climate." -- Page 119

That's precisely what you've "challenged" them to embrace. And you still attack them for being "dangerous." You've attempted, repeatedly, to attack them as pushing a strategy that only embraces investment (calling it an "investment-only strategy" on this very blog). You've pushed the same thing they propose in the academic literature. You challenge them to embrace the idea they articulate in their book. And when they do, you attack them again.

These series of posts are some of the most irrational arguments I've seen made in the blogosphere (which isn't exactly known for its rational discourse).

You seem to be driven by a kind of personal animus and hatred that is well beyond strange.

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This is the left we know and love, too busy fighting with each other to get any thing done.
Reminds me of the political correctness battles of the 70's.

What on earth makes you think anyone, not in your narrow movement, would trust you and yours to creat or run any environmental policy that involves the well being of this nation.
Of all the ego driven nonsense.....

After taking a break to calm down

These comments are not just addressed to Mr. Romm but, also, to the other posters to this discussion.

You have obviouly brought your petty arguments, from elsewhere, in to this group with no intent to inform or educate us. All you are doing is snipping at each other like a bunch school children. If all of you expect the American people to take you seriously it is time to grow up. As it is all you are accomplishing is giving ammunition to your detractors at Fox news.

Jack

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Also, the title of this post is pretty ironic -- Joe Romm started the "phony" and "inacurate" debate, and now he's calling for it to end.

Good. I hope it does. Romm's attacks on S&N are, at best, intellectually dishonest. I used to think fairly highly of him as an expert. But his factually challenged attacks are just plain weird.

Interestingly, just before he posted this, he reiterated his patently false assertion that S&N "originially" proposed a "technology-only approach" after I pointed out that he is knowingly mischaracterizing their position in a comment to a previous thread. This is after he says that they are pursuing the "exact same strategy" as George Bush on climate change, and after he said S&N propose a "technology-only strategy" yesterday.

Read the book, or at least the blurb above, and you'll see that his accusations are completely made up. They are, as the title suggests, both "phony" and "historically inacurate."

"Hey Pot, it's Kettle... I hate to break it to you..."

Because you don't know the history, you don't understand just how jaw-dropping S&N's position reversal is -- maybe close to Dylan going electric or more like Al Gore joining the Bush Administration.

If you had told me -- or anyone else in the environment or energy community -- a few months ago that S&N would embrace as many regulations, mandates, CAFE, etc as is in the Obama bill, we all would have laughed at you.

They built their career trashing those of us who argued those were necessary. They created a phony argument -- that only they believed in the positive message of clean technologies whereas the ignorant environmentalists were destroying their own movement by pursuing politically unattainable regulations.

Then I read the New Republic and Grist articles in which they spent most of the time still dissing regulations, and pushing the breakthrough technology nonsense, but did say you needed some regulations. Even then, I didn't believe they would embrace the Obama bill.

The Obama bill is everything the environmental community ever wanted -- it shows that there has been no Death of Environmentalism, that such a politically savvy politician would embrace such strict carbon controls and other mandates.

When S&N said they loved the Obama bill, I personally was stunned -- and I have spoken to more than one player in this area who is equally stunned.

I can appreciate how, for someone who doesn't follow this closely, this must looked like silly infighting -- all I can tell you is that for those of us who spilled blood because of S&N's repeated attacks on positions they now embrace wholeheartedly, it is a big deal.

Anyway, you can take their "side" if you want, but it is clear they have no "side" -- they agree with all the people they have spent years attacking, even though they refuse to admit we were right all along.

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As soon as I saw them refer to making a religion out of science, all my alarm bells went off: right wing hacks! right wing hack! right wing hacks! No need to read any more. These are buzz words that the brain dead fundamentalist will respond to but it also identifies who the authors audience is.

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But Joe, I do know the history; I've been involved with these issues since before you got your Ph.D. from MIT.

And I know that S&N are not anti-regulation; they have always called for a vision bigger than regulation, that includes regulation.

By the way, Joe, what were your three top accomplishments at DOE? For that matter, what are your top three career achievements? I ask only because it looks to me like you are acting out of jealousy.

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Why do you need an energy 'budget' at all?
You've got your oil companies, you've got coal,
nuclear, natural gas companies, all these
business entities are in the business of
providing things to the public which can
be burned to provide forward propulsion or
heat or electricity. There's more than one way
to skin a rat, so to speak, and there's a lot
to be said for encouraging private citizens
to work on more ways to get from monday to friday
without enriching the machine gun company or
the oil company or whatever. Yes, you can
live a life without an automobile, of course
if you go and do that, then the insurance company
gets mad at you, too. But, we are coming rapidly
to a time when people are going to have to make
better choices, use less energy, and pay less
money to these institutions in order to live
their daily lives. Example: a 4-cylinder car
will do all the actual 'work' you do with an 8-cylinder car. Same goes for a truck. A 40-watt
bulb will provide enough light, and MORE if
you trade to flourescents. A smaller fridge
will hold the same amount of food you now throw
in a bigger fridge. A 60 degree house will feel
as warm as a 70 degree house after you get used
to it.(Jacket is a one-time purchase, last you
for years). Same goes for summertime, you'll
get used to having it 10 degrees warmer. A little
common sense goes a long way toward keeping these
conglomerate people at bay, they'll still try
to drill into your wallet somehow, either through
tax revenue or rate increases, but the savvy
citizen can manage to hold onto their money
regardless. Sleep at night, when it's dark,
save lots of money on electricity...

Mr. Romm goes out of his way to reiterate, explain and prove.

The other guy is a hack though. Romm simply doesn't grasp the role of the media here. Why is a broadcast tower, printing press or satellite so expensive? So industry can outbid you and make the message a lot shorter, a lot more emotional and a lot less intellectually coherent.

This back-and-forth, or 'dialogue' as we'd say in the hyperintellectual reality-based-reality community, is superfluous. You're preaching to the choir here, and your comments give them another crack at the same soundbite: "This is a confusing issue, as illustrated by the extensive debate in the scientific community..."

They are the mud men. The entire book was written to deliver a short list of phrases. Syvanen touches on it. Vorkosigan1 attacks Romm and takes the half Romm said they said and omits the other half they said reversing the former half. Holding superficially contradictory views has been said to be the hallmark of mature thought, but this is zero-sum writing, not thought. The goal is to move the ball sideways.

How does this fit or not fit with your point?

Sidney Morning Herald

The sons of the prophet are noble and bold,
and quite unaccustomed to fear.
But the bravest by far in the ranks of the Shah
was Abdul Abulbul Amir

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Sure would have been nice if you'd given some reference to what "S & N" stood for before the end of your blog.

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