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Deniers, Anti-Deniers, and Politics

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What an odd phenomenon. Joseph Romm declares Shellenberger and Nordhaus (henceforth, S&N) are climate change deniers. His evidence for this outrageous charge seems to be that he disagrees with their energy investment proposals. It's sort of like saying I hate the Yankees because your dog is ugly.

Why would an obviously reasonable and accomplished gentleman make an argument like that? I believe the answer is a political one: advocates for addressing climate change have wagered every ounce of their credibility on a simple political logic that goes something like this: first, we scare the dickens out of as many people as possible. Then, having demonstrated our ability to frighten seemingly serious, sensible persons by the tens of thousands, we holler at the millions of people who actually matter in politics, screaming that the experts have spoken and, roughly, all you dummies better start listening to us, or you're going to roast in hell-on-earth!

And if someone disputes that political logic, the claim is that they are denying the reality of climate change.

Sometimes, this political approach works. A roughly similar approach has cigarette consumption heading downward fast in many communities in the U.S. and elsewhere. Another generally similar approach kept the Cold War going for years, until Mikhail Gorbachev simply decided not to play anymore. And now I'm running out of examples. Oh, yes, I just remembered another one: precisely that logic (with some help from real deniers) has so marginalized environmentalist claims that they now rank in importance somewhere in the general vicinity of pesticide manufacturers.

My reading of S&N is thoroughly political. Perhaps their best line - the one that gets attention every time I quote it - is that environmentalists have been giving an "I have a nightmare" speech when they should have been giving a "I have a dream" speech.

The problem isn't that carbon taxes, restrictions, and the like won't work; if you could get them implemented, I suppose they'd work. But they're a bad political strategy. S&N make a serious political proposal; that public investment has political potential that anti-pollution regulation lacks. They're right, but then almost anything (including waiting for Goofy to return from Pluto and wave Tinkerbelle's wand) would work better than what we've been doing. The main conclusion I draw from S&N is that we need a more serious discussion about political strategies.

So, briefly, let me take a turn. Energy independence has enormous potential as an issue that could be partnered with climate change, helping form and motivate a coalition that could really pass legislation. To be sure, the natural gas liquifiers won't be on board, but they don't have a veto. Moving the issue in this direction makes it a national security issue. And, as we've all been reminded with the recent Sputnik anniversary, public investment in previously untenable proposals (like serious science education in the sixties) can be motivated by a combination of national security, elite opinion, and economic power.

Besides, Clinton, Obama, or Edwards is going to need a positive foreign policy program when one of them gets into office, since nobody is going to instantly pull the troops out of Iraq, and for sure nobody will get them out of the Middle East for a long, long time. This is a political opening, even if it resembles the current political logic of climate change not one blue whit.


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Nice post, well said.

My reading of S&N is thoroughly political. Perhaps their best line - the one that gets attention every time I quote it - is that environmentalists have been giving an "I have a nightmare" speech when they should have been giving a "I have a dream" speech.

You got more attention from me with it, too.

And if someone disputes that political logic, the claim is that they are denying the reality of climate change.

Somehow this reminds me of Mssrs. Walt, Mearsheimer, and the anti-semitism thing.

p.s. I just now looked at your biography and I see you are probably working on this specific issue every day and have past expertise in political communication issues. Let me tell ya, it really shows in your post. You have won future name recognition from moi. :-)

Romm's objection to S&N isn't purely about politics, though. Romm is saying that there is no magic technology that can be bought for $30 billion or $300 billion that will solve the problem. Now you can disagree with him about that, but it's an argument over substance. Either there is a new technology fix to the problem or it's too late for that. We're debating science here, not rhetoric.

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Really, the more we hear about this book, the sillier it all gets. It's all a big exercise in marketing.

Is it just me, or does the pro S&N crowd sound strangely like the DLC?  Worrying about politics over substance. Or maybe it's just the very strong concern troll smell that's around...

I can't put my finger on it.

 

"Thank God George Bush is our president." -Rudy Giuliani

Ha, should have read your post before posting mine. You're getting close to putting your finger on the problem.

S&N make a serious political proposal; that public investment has political potential that anti-pollution regulation lacks.

Why can't the US do both?  I believe that both S&N (in other venues) and Romm (in this venue) have suggested that both things are important.  So what's the problem?

Sorry to undercut the premise of this entire post, but I did not declare that S&N are deniers. That said, I realize I could have been crystal clear on this point. Let me be so here.

S&N (and Lomborg) are delayers, not deniers. I have written this so many times, I forgot to be clearer in the first post. For a similar perspective, see here.

Thank you for the links. 

It would be interesting to know what specific policies you and S&N disagree on.  I see a mention of stricter fuel economy standards in the second link you provided; it would be interesting to hear some more details on that. 

And it would be interesting to know if there other "regulatory" policies that you would like to see, that S&N don't support -- as well as if there are other "investment" policies that S&N like, that you don't support.

Hmm, let me get this straight. Nothing's happening under Bush, which means the policy we'd love to see someone enact isn't working whereas the one you like would. Great logic. In any case, they may not be denying climate change, and they're just as likely as Lomborg to slip from "I fully believe in climate change but would rather counter its effects" to "the effects aren't so bad, which is why we can afford to deal with them." 

John

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