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An article in a Business Week series on credit cards and college students focuses on the marketing of credit cards to college students. It makes a number of good points about the almost unbelievable reality that credit card companies actively solicit unemployed students with little or no credit history or ability to repay to open up credit card accounts. Not surprisingly, the article describes the criticism that credit card companies do not adequately warn students of the serious, far-reaching consequences of credit card debt. In part, the industry responds by pointing to the brochures and websites it says it promotes on financial literacy as means of being the responsible party educating the student. This always strikes me as a bit laughable.  Some source of financial literacy should be better than none (assuming it is accurate).  But relying on credit card companies to promote financial literacy seems just as likely to reduce student credit card debt as relying on the tobacco industry's stop-smoking websites to reduce teenage smoking. Representative Louise Slaughter's proposal (described in the article) to cap credit card limits for students to $500 if their parents co-sign or 20% of the student's income sounds like a more promising solution.


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I also read the articles in Business Week .
It struck me as "funny" too that the CC Co's will educate anyone on the responsible use of CC'.
After all, aren't these the co's that are calling those who pay their balances off every month " deadbeats? " These are the co's that
are making big $$$$ from loan shark interest and outrageous "penalty" fees?
People who REALLY have the best interest of students need to flood the campuses, like the CC co's do, and give some real education and also some warnings about the stress of debt.
Kudo's to Robert Manning who is trying!

Bonnie
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I taught a class for Junior Achievement to my son's 2nd grade class a couple of years ago.  There was a lesson on what money is.  They included credit cards in the definition of money.  I modified that, and we had a class discussion on why credit cards are not money.  I did a little research and I found that Citibank is one of the large sponsors for Junior Achievement.  It looks like they influence the curriculum.  It makes me aware that we really need to watch what our children are being taught in school.  What is the agenda behind what they are being taught about economics, history, and science.  They are being taught values that we may not agree with, as proven fact,.  That infuriates me.  I have to re-educate my child on the fallacies of some of the things he is taught, and give him reasons why they are not proven facts, but conclusions drawn by certain people who have agendas to push a position of their own. 

Dave Ramsey has been working to get a program into schools to teach financial literacy and warns of the dangers of borrowing money and how to avoid borrowing money.  Our schools are pushing a secular humanism agenda, so if it isn't values taught by the state, it isn't welcome in public schools, so he has a tough task.  Secular Humanism is a set of beliefs and values that form a worldview that are used to interpret reality.  Though they claim it is not a religion, but it is. According to the Humanist Manifestos I & II: Humanism it is "a philosophical, religious, and moral point of view. (Paul Kurtz, in the preface to Humanist Manifestos I & II (Buffalo, NY: Prometheus Books, 1973), p. 3.)

 Students are prepped as early as first grade, from what I can see, to become "consumers" and that spending is more important than saving to create value in the economy, and saving is only for you if you happen to have anything left.  It isn't planned, or put aside before you spend.  So when they get to college they are prepped to go into debt while they are in college, thinking they are being responsible "consumers" and playing their proper role in society.  It is up to parents to monitor what their child learns, and teach them how to properly handle money before they go to college, and understand the problems with credit cards.  If you have taught them properly, they will not want to use credit cards, and will know how to avoid them.

Manning has documented multiple college students suicides due to excessive credit card debt, and their parents never knew about it until their suicides, or soon before.  College students may be legally adults, but they have been poorly educated on responsible financial practices, because our school system is teaching government propoganda, and turning them into economic tools to be manipulated to attempt to prop up a failing economic system. 

Jim Anderson

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Citibank is sneaky. Of course it's all just money on their side of the game! I'm glad you modified that, Jim, but how many who teach that do what you did?
I'm glad that Dave Ramsey is working to get programs in schools.
I'm not a big fan of his because I think listening to his show I have sometimes thought he should have told some people to consider personal bankruptcy and he just went on and on about eating beans and rice, selling on ebay etc.
I agree with Professor Warren that sometimes the fresh start of BK is called for.

But still Ramsey says alot of good things and I know he has helped many and will continue to do so.

Bonnie
http://pupart.1hwy.com/

I worry about imposing caps in this way, too, though. What about nontraditional students, who are trying to work and put themselves through school, or are going to school based on their own accumulated savings? If I were a single mom trying to build a better life for myself, I'd be seriously ticked off if enrolling in college meant that my credit limit was lowered to $500.

I worked my way through school without a credit card. It is a trap to use one. They should limit the balance severely, IMHO. It is too tempting to charge it up, especially for educational supplies. If you learn the financial aid system, and how to properly use it, you can get what you need. If you think you need more, you need to double check what you are spending money on that isn't necessary.
It is tight for students, but it is also a good lesson in living within your means.

Jim Anderson

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With all due respect, my point was not that nontraditional students can't get into credit trouble, but that they have become accustomed to living their lives like grown-ups, and it is inappropriate to apply these kinds of provisions to them. You don't really think that a 40-year-old mother of two who goes back to college should have to have her father co-sign for her to get a credit card, do you? What if she normally charges daycare and pays it off each month, and the credit card company abruptly drops her credit limit to $500 and then socks her with overlimit fees?

I haven't read the legislation, so I don't know whether it applies to nontraditional students. But not every undergraduate is a dewy-faced 18-year-old.

I would love it if Rep. Slaughter offered a simple anti-usury law that protects young people. It would simply limit the interest rate, fees (including, but not limited to late and over limit) or other charges charged by _any_ company that extends credit to those under 25 to a.p.r. of 15% plus one dollar per month. Whether it's credit card companies gouging college students or payday and car title credit companies, they are all taking advantage of both the bad luck and the impulsivity of younger adults. There is no reason to reward these vultures.

You're assuming credit cards are necessary. They aren't. If one comes to depend on them, you are already in trouble.

Jim Anderson

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