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Fed Bailouts and the Bubble Boys

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The whining from Wall Street is growing louder. Those brilliant high-flying hedge fund managers are now facing the prospect of financial ruin. It seems that they are holding hundreds of billions of dollars of mortgage debt, some of which is worthless, and much of which is worth considerably less than it was a few weeks ago. Since the hedge funds are heavily leveraged (they borrowed heavily to buy assets), many of them could be wiped out.

Given the gravity of the situation, the hedge fund crew is doing what all good capitalists do when things go badly: run to the government.

Specifically, they want the Federal Reserve Board to bail them out with lower interest rates. They hope that this will buy them the time needed to dump their mortgages on less well-informed investors.

The hedge fund folks say that this is the Fed’s job, that it must step in as the lender of last resort and restore order to the market. That ain’t necessarily so.

To understand the current picture, it’s necessary to distinguish between different types of financial meltdowns. The first is an irrational panic. In this case, investors simply flee for the doors for no obvious reason. The result can be an economic catastrophe driven by fear alone. This is essentially what happened in the East Asian financial crisis ten years ago. There was a massive capital flight from South Korea, Thailand, and Malaysia -- economies that were performing solidly by almost any measure – for no obvious reason.

If there had been an international lender of last resort at the time, it would have stepped in and provided capital and sought to assure investors these economies were fundamentally sound. As it was, all we had was the I.M.F. (that’s another story), so these economies had to go through the wringer, experiencing sharp recessions before bouncing back at the end of the decade.

The other sort of meltdown occurs when assets have genuinely lost much of their value as when a fraud is exposed. The best recent example of such a meltdown was the collapse of Enron in the fall of 2001. In this case, Enron had gone from a company with a market valuation of $70 billion, to being essentially worthless in a very short period of time.

There actually was an effort at a federal bailout of Enron. A former Treasury secretary, who had taken a top job at Citibank, called a Treasury staffer to see if he could stop the credit rating agencies from downgrading Enron’s debt. At the time Citibank held several hundred million dollars of Enron debt. While the staffer refused to intervene, if Citibank had gotten its wish, it would have had the opportunity to dump its Enron debt on less informed investors before the price collapsed.

These examples should frame the debate on a bailout. If the assets held by the hedge funds are sound, and it’s just an issue of stemming a momentary panic, then the Fed should step in as lender of last resort and try to stabilize the market. However, if the issue is just one of giving the hedge fund crew time to dump their bad debts, then the Fed has no business getting involved.

A quick look at the evidence strongly argues for scenario # 2. The problem is that homes are worth less than the value of the mortgages. This is the main fuel for the surge in defaults. This process will only get worse as house prices continue to decline. With the inventory of unsold new homes more than 50 percent above its previous peak, and the number of vacant ownership units nearly twice the previous record, there can be little doubt about the future direction of home prices.

One final point: the hedge fund crew may try to take the homeowners hostage, arguing that the only way to keep millions of low and moderate income homeowners from being thrown out on street is to bailout the hedge funds. This is not true. Congress can just pass legislation that allows homeowners who default to remain in their house as renters, as long as they pay the fair market rent (as determined by an independent appraisal) for their home.

We must be careful not to confuse the plight of distressed homeowners with the plight of the hedge fund crew. As we all know, you can never give in to hostage takers, especially if they run hedge funds.


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Well said!

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
The only socialists in America are the bankers. Their motto: socialism for bankers; capitalism for everyone else.

Dean, what does it mean that the Federal Reserve actually bought some mortgage backed securities and some related derivatives last week? Wasn't that a bail-out already? And isn't it highly unusual? I saw it reported, but without explanation as to what the Fed actually did and what the potential consequences are. Can you shed any light?

thosethingswesay.blogspot.com

Okay, this is embarassing because I'm a financial journalist in real life... via Atrios and from Kevin Drum, we find out that things might not be as unusual as I suggested.

I'd still like Dean's perspective, but I'm sorry if I oversold the story here.

thosethingswesay.blogspot.com

Thosethingswesay,

 

don't feel bad, a lot of good reporters got that story wrong. (I checked when someone passed it along to me and found out that the MBS were just collateral). Anyhow, the Fed is clearly very worried (what happened to the calm assurances that there was just a minor problem in the subprime market -- I guess they are inoperative). There are rumors circulated that the Fed might do an unusual between meetings rate cut. I have no inside sources on this one, but if that turns out to be right, that is some serious evidence of real fear. We shall see.

Can you answer my question, above? Enquiring minds want to know.

Talking about the fascinating banking crisis which began Thursday evening when the big city banks (?) started vacuuming up cash from the regionals (overnight interbank loans)?*

The interbank loan rate jumped to 6%, 75 basis points above the Fed funds rate. To protect its rate the Fed (FOMC?) stepped in Friday morning and late Friday for the weekend.

Can anyone explain why the banks were so desperate for cash.

N.B. Anyone who can't doesn't understand what's going on (fair disclosure; I can't).

*  Later:  Just noticed ICI reports that money market assets increased almost $50 billion in the week ending last Wednesday -- institutional investors added over $38 billion -- or 7 1/2 times the average rate over the prior three weeks.  Where'd that money go if not to the banks? 

I'll return to the question of a bail-out at the end, but there's a couple of points in Dean's post I would first address...

1. The idea that "many [hedge funds] could be wiped out" is flat wrong. Most hedge funds trade equities and other vanilla products; a handful of niche players are ABS specialists, some of whom have been shorting the ABS market since the start of the year.

So whilst it is true that some hedge funds will go under as a result of the subprime blow-out, I would suggest we are talking about a relatively small handful of thoroughly "unhedged" funds.

What all hedge funds are probably mindful of in the current environment is banks tightening their lending criteria. But even if these criteria are tightened, only the most highly geared funds will be effected, and the net impact at worst will be a limited sell-off of generally liquid assets.

2. I don't buy the idea that funds want to dump their ABS assets onto unsuspecting rubes. The actual issue is that the funds do not want to sell their assets, because at current market values they would realize significant, potentially terminal, losses.

I think what the ABS investor community wants is to ride out the turbulence, and revalue their portfolios when markets stabilize (btw, I think this is wishful thinking). Those that sell their assets will be those that are forced to do so, and if anything you can foresee them being picked off by opportunistic buyers.

3. The 1997 East Asian crisis was an "irrational panic"? Partly, IMO... The currencies of several of the Asian Tigers were pegged at unsustainable levels. Granted, there was a contagious regional panic when the capital flight began, but I'd hesitate to say the panic was wholly irrational. There were good reasons at the time - aside from IMF's (in)actions - to join the stampede.

4. The surge in defaults has been caused in the first place by the increased cost of servicing a mortgage - caused by both the Fed's tightening, and the abrupt resets of the teaser introductory rates. I don't disagree that the depressed housing market correlates with the increase in defaults, I'm just not sure you have nailed the causality.

In terms of your "meltdown" analysis, I would characterize the current crisis as of the #2(a) variety. There is panic in the market, stemming from the impact of increasing default rates, but fundamentally we have a problem because investors do not know how to factor this in and put a fair value on their ABS assets. The panic is because, as my old man is wont to say, folks are farming in the dark.

Fact is, the assets being held by ABS investors are impaired, but not Enron-esque junk. An ABS note, rated as BBB at issue (and bought by investors at face value, hoping for a yield of +200) is worth more than your standard recovery rate of 20 cents in the dollar. What the, eh, smart hedge fund people can't figure is whether the fair value now is 80 or 95 cents in the dollar. Or 70. (and then there are various second order structured credit products which are just as improbably difficult to value.)

This is all pretty unforgiveable, but it is what it is. A bunch of paper that no-one wants to buy, and no-one has an incentive to value. (Cue BNP Paribas to offer the equivalent of the Gallic shrug to the markets when it announced last week that it simply could not value the assets in its funds.)

The big question for me is whether we have a perfect storm in the real estate and institutional credit markets - two markets which are highly interdependent. On the real estate side, the specter of continued Fed tightening (anyone here think newbie Bernanke wants the inflation dove tag?), resetting mortgage rates and bulging inventories all feed the same narrative. Further, mortgage originators depend on being able to shift assets off balance sheet. If the buyside continues to wallow in an ABS cesspool, the market capacity for new loan origination is critically diminished.

On the institutional side, ABS note-holders have one source of income - mortgage repayments - and their assets are ultimately secured against real estate. So it ain't a pretty picture.

Still, the question is what to do, and whether opening the Federal spigot will have the desired effect. I think it would be a solution if this were simply a liquidity crunch (and if Dubya's fundamentals were indeed sound as sound as he believes).

But I see what the Fed has done as the equivalent as giving pain-killers to a patient with a brain tumor. Someone has to go in and force asset managers to mark down their portfolios - because that is the tumor, that is the painful operation that has to be undertaken.

I'd like to believe that the market would take care of this sort of thing - something really as intrinsically basic as marking to market - but the market is unwilling to do so. Worse, the market appears to be hoping for divine intervention or some miraculous new type of antibody to make the tumor go away, and thereby avoid going through the painful surgery and prolonged recovery.

However, there's no point Bernanke and Paulson playing GP at this moment. They need the patient in the operating theater run by the SEC. The alternative - leaving an unwell patient to his own panaceas - will result in an even sicker patient several months down the line, and a heck of a lot of wasted aspirin.

I can't see a bail-out option here; no amount of fresh liquidity is going to clear up the mess. It seems the choice is pain now or more pain later... though I would add your rental proposal seems like a sane way to deal with the human tragedies that will accompany the impending - and, erm, tragic - hedge fund losses.

Do you find a lot of Hedge Fund managers whining? From what I can tell lots of people on Wall Street are suggesting some of them and even some sizable institutions should be punished for their stupidity. What I am mainly hearing is conern for the many who have the subprime, and perhaps the jumbo loans who are about to default.

Daniel A. Greenbaum

I enjoyed the article in the Times today attributing much of the hedge fund losses to herd mentality and following the same models. While not stated in the article, it would seem to follow that much of their past success would have the same cause, each purchase pushing up the value for the other purchases. So much for superstar wisdom. Glad they earned their special tax rates.

John

http://www.haberarts.com/

Because the banks and other financial institutions don't know what their real exposure is to subprime mortgages. These mortgages were purchased either as part of funds, or in secondary markets, both of which "package" many loans into one instrument. The banks and financial institutions are scrambling to understand how much of their holdings are subprime mortgages.

This is mostly a manual process so it is tim consuming. So, in the meantime, they are loath to release their cash for overnight loans since they cannot be certain what their cash position needs are. This constrains the amount of available cash in the market, which is why the Fed has stepped in by making more cash available for overnight loans.

This also increases the value of cash in the marketplace--supply and demand--which is why we're seeing rates rise for short term loans.

As for the increase in money markets, this is precisely where the money went. Since banks are not loaning cash to eachother, they are putting their daily cash surplus in money markets. Look, the deal here is that cash has not gone away. It's just not available since banks are hording it. Any bank that has lots of available cash is keeping it. Banks that are short on cash are having a hard time finding it in the marlketplace (they need it to cover their positions/exposures), so the Fed is stepping in to backfill the hording.

/c

In the blogosphere every one is an expert, so no one is an expert.

Seeing more whining from the banks, some of whom put together loan portfolios they thought they could sell and now can't, and from stock investors who assume that some bailout of the lenders in this case will either stop the market volatility or stop the bleeding.

On the hedge fund side, some people are losing their jobs and some funds are closing. But a lot of mortgage-backed buyers who haven't been hurt are bragging about their superior analytic abilities. It think there's the sense that even if a fund is highly levered that time's have changed so one big failure can't bring down the whole system any more, as Long Term Capital once did. That Amranth happened without a lot of collateral damage has made people confident.

thosethingswesay.blogspot.com

I can't. But if I come up with something reasonable, I'll post it here.

thosethingswesay.blogspot.com

It's a fair brag, and it is superior analytics. These guys are usually the big broker/dealers who have lots of money to invest in risk management. Good risk management (i.e. credit risk) flag risk in the portfolio and allow the bank to balance their risk--i.e. buy safer instruments/portfolios. To be clear here, big broker/dealers are required by law to manage their risk and incented to do so since it frees up capital which they can use for short term investment: loans to other banks, or money markets when there is a scare in the market.

I've used this analogy many times on this site, but think of a bank as a casino. By law, Casino's have to keep a certain amount of cash on hand; the amount is determined by the statistical odds of the greatest jackpot payouts. Likewise banks must keep a certain amount of cash on hand which is determined by the statistical odds of their greatest exposure. Like a casino, any cash above and beyond that payout/exposure can be used by the bank/casino to loan to other banks, or invest in short term instruments. So both banks and casinos hire really smart mathameticains to number crunch their risk. The more sophisticated the math, the better accuracy of the risk. This usually frees up cash, which is an incentive to invest in risk management since it leaves more cash for investment.

Hedge Funds, for all their money, invest little in risk management. Remember, they are unregulated. Hedge Funds buy services from the big broker dealers (it's called Prime Brokerage services), but mostly the services include order processes and payment. They don't normally buy risk management.

So my prediction is that the credit crisis and bad subprime loans will be bourne mostly by the hedge funds. The bigger players (Citibank, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Saxe, Lehman Bros) are likely in a safe position oweing to their risk management practices.

/c

In the blogosphere every one is an expert, so no one is an expert.

Not sure I agree with everything in the post, but damned insightful nonetheless. I'll look it over later today when I have some time and see if there is anything I can add or challenge.

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Okay, it's later, and I am on a horrifically boring conf call…

I agree completely with your three points. Your analysis of these is spot on. As for the predictions/comments towards the bottom, I think you are right that a revaluation is the right thing to do. It's like ripping the band aid off quickly, which is less painful than a slow peel wherein you feel every hair on your arm as it is pulled out by the root.

That said, with band aids, it’s usually a good idea to leave them on a few days so that the wound can seal up. My guess is that the Fed is just waiting for the markets to cool down by buying time and showing the markets that they care. Let’s face it, a revaluation in two weeks time may be less jarring than on a day when the Dow is down 5%.

I think the Fed’s approach to freeing up cash is an okay short term response. The follow-ups really belong, as you pointed out, to the SEC. Give it a few days and then let it rip. As you pointed out above, the damage may not be as terrible as everyone fears. And as I pointed out above, the damage is hard to assess and unknown at this time. The only thing Wall Street has to fear is fear itself.

Wall Street is afraid.

/c

In the blogosphere every one is an expert, so no one is an expert.

Agree with both commenters' remarks except --- the eat-your-spinnach remedy.

Marking-to-market during a panic when there isn't a market to mark to smacks of a certain degree of self-righteousness. 

Thanks for the response... I hear you on the band-aid theory, and I can see perhaps how the Fed is trying to bring the industry in line when the Dow is on an even keel, or at least delay the inevitable till after the summer holidays.

But I still worry... These ABS markets aren't ordinary markets. The assets - especially the really crappy ones - don't often trade, and right now are barely trading at all. When they do, with all the forced sellers taken behind the woodshed, all hell will break loose. That's one reason for the fear.

There remains a possibility the fall-out is going to be widespread enough to do some systemic damage, though you'd think many hedge funds will likely weather the storm better than most. A few will however end up as the Bear Sterns funds have, and maybe the question is how many of these wrecks can be sustained.

A steady drumbeat of failures over a period of time, even if it represents a small fraction of the whole, could be devastating. A mentor of mine once asked what the difference was between a correction and a collapse. The answer wasn't about the size of the correction, but the reaction of the market. Other than that, there was no difference.

If we're spooked we'll see every sign pointing south. The Fed may be pushing off the inevitable in order to calm Wall Street's neurosis. As you pointed out, August is a bad month since the bulls are out in the Hamptons leaving the bears at the helm.

What would I do if I were the Fed Chairman? Probably free up some cash, think about a rate reduction pending a few weeks of trend analysis, and then consult with the Whitehouse and Congress about new regulations governing risk in secondary markets. I wouldn’t want to use the SEC card until some new regs were in place. Washington also buys some time and headlines to give Wall Street some air. In a more deiscrete manner, I might also talk to other central bankers about regulations in the EU and Far East. This will act as a back door should Washington get all tied up in politics (premise being that it doesn’t matter where the regs originate from in order to get them in place).

At this point there are two problems: the real and perceived. Unfortunately, it probably takes a fix to perception in order to address the real.

/c

In the blogosphere every one is an expert, so no one is an expert.

"Marking-to-market during a panic when there isn't a market to mark to smacks of a certain degree of self-righteousness."

Ah yes, the trader's lament. Too hard to mark my book. Strange thing is this problem never comes up in a bull market.

Believe me, if you knew how these assets had been treated up until the fit hit the shan, you'd know what flaming hypocrites these managers are who now can't find a mark. This isn't a very liquid market, so there's has always been an element of guesswork, but the sudden onset of blindness at some of these outfits is a joke.

Our VERSUS musical political parody website's Parody of the Week addresses the turmoil in "BEARISH" (to the Terry Kirkman song "Cherish"). "BEARISH" is on VERSUS at http://versusplus.com, and on YouTube at http://youtube.com/watch?v=37pal-PYTUQ.

I sympathize with Baker's dislike of hypocrisy, but his monetary policy advice is horrible. There is no reason to believe that the Fed should enquire into the appropriateness of a financial shock before reacting to it. If it is sufficiently contractionary, then the Fed needs to ease to protect the ECONOMY. The Fed's job is not to settle political scores or decide who needs to get punished. It has bigger fish to fry.

We must be careful not to confuse the plight of distressed homeowners with the plight of the hedge fund crew. Dean Baker

--- or don't substitute anecdotes that tug at the heartstrings for rational judgment.

Recognizing spin in economics reporting has always been Baker's forte. I used to look forward to his weekly analysis which might have been called "How have the NYT and WaPo misrepresented the economic facts this week? Let me count the ways!"

You're right, of course, but where would be without a populist angle ;)

/c

In the blogosphere every one is an expert, so no one is an expert.

Actually, the Fed better have some idea of what's causing an economic disruption before it responds. For example, it would be pretty incredible if it responds to an increase in the inflation rate that is attributable to a fall in the dollar in the same way that it responds to an increase in the rate of inflation that is attributable to a slower trend rate of productivity growth, then it would be making a very bad policy mistake.

 

In the same vein, if it rushes to lower interest rates to prevent the hedge fund boys from taking a beating, then we need some new people at the Fed. If the underlying economy is as strong as Bernanke and the rest claimed in their statement last week (it actually isn't), then there is no reason for them to be lowering rates.  


A more humane solution would be to subsidize the subprime debtors so they wouldn't have to lose their homes in the first place. The bankers would still get their money.

I certainly agree the Fed shouldn't be in the business of settling scores. That is the Congress's job.

The political score should be settled by taking away the special privileges of lenders who got to lend (and create money) like a bank without following the rules and regulations that real bankers must. Now that the loans are going bad, the money these amateur, wannabe bankers created is disappearing. So the Fed must create more money to replace it.

Stock traders and speculators should've never been allowed to dabble in mortgages to begin with.

Not sure that the big houses are the ones abusing the credit ratings of lendees. The lists I've seen look like the traditional lenders. Trading and speculation is happening on the back end; i.e. not the folks giving out loans, but the folks who trade the paper after the loan is made.


/c

In the blogosphere every one is an expert, so no one is an expert.

Another possible answer (speculation?).

There's close to $2.7 trillion invested in U.S. based money market accounts. A great deal of that money is loaned to banks at various short-term maturities, some as short-term as overnight.

The banks have been using these funds to invest in various risky and very untransparent and now, illiquid investments -- so-called structured finance.

Did the money market mutual fund managers suddenly become cautious and hesitant to roll over these short term loans? Is that why the banks began running out of money Thursday evening?

The bubble I'm worried about is the US securities investments by the world. The US is viewed by much of the world as the most secure place to stash extra cash. This means we have a great supply of money to borrow at reasonable rates but when the bubble bursts money is going to be more scarce and expensive for all of us

Jack

I'm not sure how humane that would be. Besides, I'm not in favor of depriving people of a proper education. There is nothing like getting your butt caught in a crack to concentrate the mind and facilitate learning. I ought to know, been there more than once. The other problem is I and others still have to borrow in that market for construction loans and the like. If you interfere with the process then investors will send their money to some safer place and I can't rehab that next house. This will happen all through my working class neighborhood. Making all of of us, renters and property owners, poorer.

That does give the do gooding types something to do but most days we would rather do it ourselves.

Jack

Did you catch Jim Cramer's appearance on The Colbert Report? Sorry, but I didn't buy his crocodile tears for all of the distressed homeowners in Detroit, Cleveland, and the South Side of Chicago.

Let's face it, the Big Money Boys on Wall Street play take-away 24/7. If you are a hardscrabble tradesman working sixty hours a week scrambling to make ends meet for your wife and kids, the Wall Street Crews are hustling double time off-shoring jobs, slashing domestic payrolls and benefits,and union busting the service jobs they can't export.

Furthermore, a portion of the money they extracted from the tradesmen bought a favored tax and regulatory authority. Then they compounded the misery of the workers by offering easy payment short term mortgages (for a price!) that depended on a never ending housing bubble spiral--and all of this marvelous Wall Street Wonderwork had the blessing of the Great Maestro of the Fed, Mr. G. Himself.

What was true during the Age of Jackson holds true today.

"In all ages, in all countries, capital has been used as a never-failing means of obtaining power, and the opression and impoverishment of the productive classes are the certain consequences of such a combination."

"The history of the world is but a history of the wrongs practiced by privileged wealth upon oppressed poverty. Even in this country, this boasted land of liberty, has the omnipotence of wealth...rendered the condition of the labourer little better than that of the slave."--William English, July 4, 1835

If it is sufficiently contractionary, then the Fed needs to ease to protect the ECONOMY. The Fed's job is not to settle political scores or decide who needs to get punished. It has bigger fish to fry.

I wish I could believe that the Fed would measure "sufficiently contractionary" by a truly impartial standard.  I'm not sure that one exists.  I expect few Americans really understand the Federal Reserve System, even pretty well educated types.  The mythology of impartiality and an even playing field is too well embedded, and the idea that the Fed isolates pristine-pure economics from nasty-old-politics is too well believed.

So I'm afraid that "sufficiently contractionary" will be defined by the guys at the clubhouse or whatever its equivalent is.  Some of this is purely human, and maybe not a bad thing.  After all, we notice when our friends are hurting and think "hmm, something's wrong".  But the Fed needs to broaden its circle of friends, MHO.

As for punishment and score-settling.  Occasionally doing the right thing accomplishes these as by-products.  Lots of fish to fry.  A very big grill. <grin></grin>

aMike

=== 'm not sure how humane that would be. Besides, I'm not in favor of depriving people of a proper education. There is nothing like getting your butt caught in a crack to concentrate the mind and facilitate learning ===
Sort of like the principals of Long-Term(sic) Capital Management who refused to participate in the bailout until they received a guarantee that their previous bonuses would not be clawed back? How exactly do these big-dollar financial dudes "get their butt caught in a crack" if they are bailed out by the Fed (recently; Congress in past) when things go far wrong?
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sPh

The qualifier "sufficiently" alone indicates a subjective standard for Fed action. While any number of observable and objective analytic tools can be employed to measure the economy and the markets, decisions still remain subjective. Greenspan, the myth, and the man, was credited and criticized for his direction in the 1990's when Asian markets started to panic. Some say his lowering of key rates softened the blow, others argue that it set up a bubble. Which was it? Measure all you like, the determination still comes down to (1) a fiscal philosophy, (2) the formative experience of the chairman and the board, and (3) dumb luck since one or two elements of the economy does not the economy make.

The explosion of finanacial instruments and globalized markets make the current financial world unchartered territory. We hope that Mr. Bernake's above referenced 1-2-3 pay out--especially his number 3. Can the Fed Chairman play politics and settle scores? Ask Mr. Greenspan about his about face re tax cuts. Mr. Bernake is no less exposed or protected as Mr. Greenspan was. Fed Chairmen are not hatched. They come to their jobs from other roles, firms and schools--all of which are formative on their views, both political and monetary.

We're not dealing with a cartesian god of pure rationality. More likely the greek model of irrational gods that mirror men.


/c

In the blogosphere every one is an expert, so no one is an expert.

I kinda thought this.  <grin></grin>.  Thanks for confirming it for me.  I like dumb luck.  I hope my share is well guarded.  For that matter, the gods may be those of Terry Pratchett.  I revert to him when I get too depressed by unvarnished reality.

Thanks for enlightening me.

aMike

Sentinel, a money market company, has been unable to rollover their commericial paper and now have frozen redemptions from their fund.

Daniel A. Greenbaum

The problem is separating the sheep from the goats. A still undetermined fraction (but I suspect pretty high) of subprime loans were not taken out by unsophisticated homeowners who got suckered. A lot of it was taken out by investors and speculators who knew exactly what they were doing.

The key is that most categories of home loans are restricted to owner-occupied, and in any event the rates are lower. If a borrower tells a loan originator they intend to occupy the home, and the originator tells the lender they are going to occupy the home, and the lender tells the bank, and the bank tells the end investor and everyone all along the line does enough blinking then the loan gets funded. It really doesn't matter that several of the links in the chain know full well that borrower has no intention of moving into that home. Maybe because he is an investor who has taken out a whole series of loans on other houses in that same market or who happens to already live in a million dollar house already.

Its mortgage fraud, but in a rising market nobody loses so nobody cared. The market proved to be almost defenseless against even a small turndown. But the fact is that there is a group of people out there who are not going to be losing 'homes', they are going to be walking away from the last in a series of investments during which they made fabulous amounts of money.

People got rich flipping houses during the boom, there is no reason to bail them out because their last deal didn't pan out. That is the risk in risk/reward. But there is no easy way to separate out the paper, instead the sharks at both ends simply want to use people who really are at risk of losing homes to supply cover for their bailout. If this sounds familiar it should. It is exactly how the S&L bailout went down.

As I've earlier said, before we can know whether there is, in fact, a liquidity crisis, we've got to understand what caused the big banks to run around like chickens with their heads cut off searching high and low for cash last Thursday evening. And here's another explanation.

It may have been nothing more than the effects of the prior weeks' market volatility upon the answer given by the "value at risk" mathematical models the banks use to determine the cash "sound management doctrine" requires them to hold. In other words the "liquidity crisis" may have been nothing more than an artifact of the equations all those overpaid Wall Street M.I.T. quants have put in place.

Maybe, instead of dumping cash on the banks Bernanke should have said, "Change your models, morons!"

Re: we've got to understand what caused the big banks to run around like chickens with their heads cut off searching high and low for cash last Thursday evening.

There was absolutely nothing unusual about the various banks looking to borrow money from each other. This is normal and it happens all the time. The banks were not "desperate" for cash. The difference is that Thursday many found that the collteral they were offering (their loan portfolios) was not being accepted due to questions as to its worth. So the Fed stepped in and accepted the collateral for its stated value (which is in fact vetted by third party agencies; the banks cannot simply make up a number out of thin air) and provided the loans. There's really less here than there seems to be. Just an old-fashioned financial panic which the Fed stemmed by providing liquidity. This is one of the main reasons we have a Fed.

The banks were not "desperate" for cash.

Right! That's why they were willing to pay 75 basis points over the Fed funds rate?  They were just being generous?

Not sure I agree with your depiction. What third party provides current mark to market valuation for an overnight?

I agree that portfolios are not being accepted as colateral, but the cash crunch has more to do with the banks not being able to identify their true exposure, and so not lending their available cash to other banks.

I've seen the term credit crisis in these threads (I may have errantly used it--but I'm on a berry and don't want to look back) and just want to clarify that what we are in is a liquidity crisis. The credit crisis is what the Fed is trying to stem.

The liquidity crisis is why they're paying X bps/Fed rate. Supply and demand. Remember, they need to cover their exposures with cash.

/c

In the blogosphere every one is an expert, so no one is an expert.

Right you are, Ellen, they ARE desperate for cash and their friends aren't loaning it. Enter the Fed (actually the EU central bank stepped in first). They must keep enough cash on hand to cover short term exposure; it's the law. So cash now comes at a premium,as you noted.

Not generosity; neccesity.
/c

In the blogosphere every one is an expert, so no one is an expert.

Who marks security offered for overnight loans to market?

Do you have to when you're the one who designed the asset-backed securities in the first place, know how toxic they are, and have a pretty good idea what they're worth?

I've read some place (?) that Wall Street banks refused to loan overnight funds to European banks. Presumably, European banks which are used to collateralizing short term borrowings with asset backed commercial paper (ABCP) offered Wall Street designed securities they held as collateral.

Query: The U.S. banks who conspired(?) with the ratings agencies to put these questionable packages together and then, to sell them to Europe may well envision a bit of legal liability. I wonder if they're worried that money loaned to Europe might not be coming back for a while.

I work in this industry so I have firsthand knowledge of what I am talking about. There is a lot of misformation and half-baked speculation floating around this thread.
Every day the Wall Street bank for which I work pledges its mortgage portfolio as collateral. Overnight Deutsche Bank (one of many banks to offer this service) goes through the proferred collateral with a fine tooth comb to verify that A) We own it B) The balance owed on the loans is what we say it is and C) the mortgages are not entailed by factors that make them unpledgeable (foreclosure, looming sale, incoming payoff etc.). Anything that that they disapprove of we have to make good on (or prove that they are wrong)
What I saw last week was a good old-fashioned panic: people behaving irrationally based on rumors, speculation and plain old paranoia. The Fed stepped in and threw cold water on the panic, which is one of the main reasons we have the Fed (see: Panic of 1907). There's less here than meets the eye, just a human version of a cattle stampede which was headed off by quick action from the Fed.

It's not uncommon for the Fed to accept Agency Mortgage Backed Securities as collateral, On the other hand it would be unusual if these were private MBS. Seems that, in the fine print, one of the determining options for Fed acceptance has to do with federal guarantee that, strictly speaking, Agency MBS do not have and still less so private MBS.
So, desperate to use your private instruments for collateral, you might be sufficiently creative to 'insure' these with government agency credit default swaps so provide the luster of federal guarantee.
Or something like that...

More or less same vein, David Marshall in an October 2000 FRB of Chicago paper, Historical Origins of the Use of Treasury Debt in Open Market Operations: 1914 – 1933, in it's Lessons for the Present section noted:

"...there are a number of parallels between the System's experiences in its first two decades of existence and the policy choices that the System may face over the next few years. Most obviously, there is a clear precedent for open market purchases of privately issued securities."

IOW, certainty in re. which type of collateral was used may not be warranted.

. . . a good old-fashioned panic: people behaving irrationally based on rumors, speculation and plain old paranoia.

And who were those people? Why, they were the Wall Street bankers themselves, my dear -- exactly the sort of "people" who would be in a position to know why they should be panicking.

And since those bankers are, of their own accord, unlikely to tell us, your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to determine why they were panicking.

I suspect there has been a whole lot of quality learning over at Bear Sterns(sp?)right now

I would call the Long term Capital Management deal closer to a buy out rather than a bailout.

So far the fed has not done any bail out. With luck this will all work its way through the system.
I do suspect money will be a bit tighter the next time I get a construction loan.

There are major problems that need to be addressed in the industry. It is obvious from what I see in my neighborhood and from talking to real estate agents, selling bank owned properties, that some of these loans should never have been made. This isn't an expensive real estate neighborhood. In fact when I look at the cost of houses in California or DC, the east side of Kansas City seems like a third world country.
I bought the house I getting ready to sell for 15,000, yes, thats fifteen thousand it's a 1000sq ft story and a half in a quiet working class neighborhood on a deadend street. Even when houses were at the highest It was still way cheaper to own than rent. Yet on my block I know of 2 houses where the owner walked away from what was = to cheap rent.

Jack

Re: Why, they were the Wall Street bankers themselves, my dear -- exactly the sort of "people" who would be in a position to know why they should be panicking.


You are attributing superior intelligence or at least superior rationality to these folks. However, irrationality (AKA: Folly) is a generic human trait, and anyone is liable to it. The assumption that Those In Charge know what they are doing has lead many a people down the road to ruin. Barbara Tuchman even wrote a whole book about the phenomenon, The March of Folly (she died before the latest manifestation, the Bush administration foreign policy). Don't assume that Wall Street knows something you don't. It may not know as much, or, indeeed, may know too much of the wrong thing and thus be unable to see the forest for the trees. My take is that a whole lot of self-importantly silly people suddenly rediscovered something anyone with common sense already knows: there's no sure thing in life. And having rediscovered Risk when they thought they were living with God's own sworn word that they should know only Profit, they are acting like a mix of Chicken Littles and spoiled brats just finally told No.

So ---

If the scramble for cash was folly -- and they were willing to pay 6, 7, 8% to ease their irrational anxiety -- why didn't Bernanke let them pay it, especially when the madness -- if that's what it was -- would subside in a few days. 

I may do a separate reader-blog post, but here is a neat piece by Martin Wolf of the Financial Times of what we are witnessing.

I think it bears out two key points that we've been debating here:

1. The role of the Fed (and other central banks) is not to save "specific institutions, but the market itself. It must advance money freely, at a penal rate, on good security." ["freely, at a penal rate" appears to be an oxymoron, but I think the meaning is that the Fed should be releasing funds at a premium, but without limit.]

This seems to clearly support Ellen's thinking around the recent OMOs.

2. The fundamental diagnosis offered is as follows: "Trust in counterparties and financial instruments has fled. The likelihood is a period of recognising losses, tightening credit conditions and deleveraging."

I'd agree with this, particularly the impliciation that loss recognition is critical to enable us to move on from the current crisis.

The whole article is worth a read - both for some general commentary on market panics, and the challenges central banks now face.

The Fed's job is to prevent the market from going off the rails. And there is certainly no gaurantee that panics are self-correcting and so can be safely ignored. Previous history suggests quite the opposite.

If the funds don't want to sell their bad debts to unsuspecting rubes, then I will find some bad debts to sell to them. I never thought that people on Wall Street were all that brilliant, but they also can't be entirely clueless. Surely some of them realize that the value of their MBS are not coming back. They are going to take a big hit and the hit will be bigger the longer they sit on them. 

 

If they still haven't paid attention to the underlying value of their assets that back up their assets (the houses), then it would be truly icnredible.  

Good read. Especially, "These markets must regulate themselves. The only thing likely to persuade them to do so is the certainty that the players will be allowed to go bust", otherwise, "... capitalism is for poor people and socialism is for capitalists. This view is not just offensive. It is catastrophic." Which I think was the first comment in this thread.

Aug. 16 (Bloomberg) -- William Poole, president of the St. Louis Federal Reserve Bank, said the subprime mortgage rout doesn't threaten U.S. economic growth, and only a "calamity'' would justify an interest-rate cut now.

Guys with beards don't prevaricate, right? Right.

JPF311

I am not a professional, but having wasted too many years of my life trying to write a computer program that would do technical analysis of the markets, I completely agree with your assessment of market psychology. As far as I can tell, there is no consistent "mind of the market." Patterns may appear for a short time, but by the time they are recognizable, the market has gotten interested in other issues. For example, when speculative technology funds are getting volatile, investors may move to healthcare funds as a defensive move. Then the healthcare funds become overbought, and at some unpredicatable moment they crash.

Marty Zweig was able to call major market turning points with some accuracy for quite a few years, based on interest rates. But his model was based on a period of time when fighting inflation was a high priority. In the late 90s, some people were beginning to worry about deflation, and the linkage between interest rates and stock prices weakened. (Based on the historical relationship between bond yields and stock dividends, it was clear that the stock market was overvalued for several years. Soros called the end of the bull market one or two years too early.) I remember watching a TV show where they inteviewed a commodities trader who was trying to warn people about that. The self-important commentators dismissed his advice, and told the audience that everybody knows that stock prices are determined by interest rates.

Just before the latest correction it was apparent that there was some problem, but it was difficult (for me, at least) to know exactly what to do about it. Utility funds started doing badly, but computer funds started doing well, for the first time in years. Also, energy funds were doing well, which might suggest a concern about rising inflation. From a technical standpoint, market breadth was poor. This was a rough indication that the market was getting too speculative -- that it was a late-market bull.

As a technical analyst (so-called) I do not believe in predicting the market. I only try to observe what it is doing at any given moment. If I had more confidence in my predictive ability, I probably would have gotten out of the market sooner. My confidence had been sapped, however, by the never-ending "irrational exhuberance" of the 90s.

I would suggest that the housing crisis is not the only issue that is concerning the stock market. For a while, the market appeared to be torn between those who were concerned about interest rates and those who were looking for opportunities in stocks that were not so interest-rate sensitive. Suddenly, a group decision was made that interest rates were paramount. The issue is not that the interest rate concerns were not forseen. The issue is that the market as a whole did not seem to know how to evaluate the interest rate concerns. Someone else will know more about this than I do, but the concern about the housing market probably has to be understood in terms of a background of concern about oil prices, too. The breaking point may have been determined by some interaction between these concerns that I, as an outsider, know nothing about.

The problem for me, and I suspect, even to some extent for market professionals, is that in making decisions you have to choose between dueling cliches. Is it the case that the stock market was showing the typical speculative froth of an overripe bull market that was ready to fall, or was it the case that "the stock market climbs a wall of worry"? You can find evidence to support both propositions, which is why they are viable cliches.

It is a legendary belief of technical analysts that the stock market is usually up in a year preceding a presidential election.

Aug. 17 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve lowered the interest rate it charges banks . . . .

"Guys! Guys! I was referring to the funds rate, not the discount rate."

 

The government should take the 700 billion and start their own new lending institution.

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