I'm sure it's Josh's job to sum up, and certainly not mine, but I just wanted to thank the other commentators--and our readers--for a truly fun and interesting discussion. To have a serious conversation on China, with people (both commentators and our readers) who have been there, really spent time observing it, and are thinking hard about the consequences of our and their actions, is an enormous pleasure. And to do so without the occasional vitriol that goes with blogging has been a joy.

I agree thoroughly both with those deeply worried about China's human rights and environmental record and the "free pass" they have been given (particularly given the golden olympic opportunity to ask for some changes)--and with those who argue that this is an ancient culture, a successful country, and deserves respect as such. I believe both can be true, and hope that China watchers such as those writing here will help us find a way to respectfully accomodate China's rise, while simultaneously encouraging the respect for the rights of their people and others.