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I'll be brief. "The idea that is America" is obviously vulnerable to the interpretation of foreigners. In Dissent, Ms. Slaughter suggested the U.S. engage Iran:

"On nuclear weapons, the United States should be willing to offer Iran assurances that assuage its legitimate fears. These assurances might include a negative security assurance—a promise not to attack Iran except in response to Iranian military action or direct Iranian support of a terrorist attack against the United States, Europe, or Israel."

Now it wasn't so long ago that the U.S. attacked next-door Iraq with precisely this justification. Not long before that, the U.S. abetted Iraq in attacking Iran. Moreover, such acts are not anomalous in U.S. history. I would say they are routine. So who is she kidding? One suspects it is not the Iranians.

I keep seeing Madeleine Albright in the mug shot. It must be the scarf.


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Somebody had to say it.

...a promise not to attack Iran except in response to Iranian military action or direct Iranian support of a terrorist attack against the United States, Europe, or Israel.

And our word is historically worth what exactly? Not to mention that the burden of proof we hold our assumptions and accusations to could easily be described as suspect. It's just hard to imagine anyone in the world taking us seriously when we practice "do as I say, not as I do" and "because we said so" foreign policy.

It can be argued that when a country sits in the position of "most powerful" that there will always be a degree of resistance from those "beneath" that country. The very measurement as such creates alienation. You can also argue that simply holding that position gives said "most powerful" country the freedom to "do as it pleases" in many ways. In the most basic of sense this seems obvious. But it also runs polar opposite of the rosy list of idyllic values that Ms. Slaughter and others seem inclined to believe we historically have and continue to represent. However, you have to pick one people, you can't have it both ways.

If the Israelis attack Syria and/or Lebanon this summer, would AMS determine that a military response from either entity constitues a "terrorist" attack by Iran?

I was one of the first to jump on Slaughter's post, but this doesn't seem fair to me. Just because Bush took promises to respect other nations to mean that they're all in league with terrorists and must be killed doesn't necessarily mean that every promise is a declaration of war. Otherwise, by the same perverse logic, wouldn't that make Max into a hawk?

John

http://www.haberarts.com/

"So who is she kidding?"

I would join jhaber in defence of "Dean Slaughter" (although I shudder when someone is titled that way, it is hard to think that the role of deans is to be most creative and original denizens of academia).

I could structure a deal that Iran should find attractive: "Dear morons, nuclear weapons are actually good for nothings because politically they are impossible to use. Also, making decent nukes is not all that easy, you can spend a decade on futile effort. Instead, you can secure nuclear fuel supplies with a long-term contract with Russia, and you can see very well that Russia is not inclined to be bullied into suspending such deliveries for a flimsy reason. More importantly, you can get excellant retaliation capability by getting decent anti-ship rockets capable of sweeping from water anything that moves in the Persian gulf. Refrain from messing with nuclear fuel and we will drop all opposition to you acquiring such missile technology. Closing Persian Gulf for commercial and military traffic comes pretty closed to MAD, and it is politically feasible and reversible."

A person so close to actual politics and policies as Anne-Marie should not talk with such clarity. It is just not done, and with good reasons.

Piotr, isn't your ultimatum to Iran more hawkish by far than the one Slaughter's quoted as having given and that Max derides as a cover for what she really means? (Whether I'm defending her or not I'll leave off here.)

John 

http://www.haberarts.com/

Why wouldn't Hezbollah's attack on Israel last summer qualify as "direct Iranian support of a terrorist attack against the United States, Europe, or Israel."

piotr, you want to give the Iranian's missiles they can use to close the Persian gulf? Not a good idea. What if they decided to use them? How many American's would have to die to rectify the situation?

Once you've started everyone you don't like "terrorist", you already lost.

Iran needs a secure source of nuclear energy and technological know-how, not weapons - it has repeatedly said so & there's no evidence to the contrary. So the assumption that a security guarantee would resolve the issue is based on a false premise that Iran is building nuclear weapons. In fact Iran has repeatedly stated that nuclear weapons would NOT help its security.

And actually, the US has already made a Negative Security Assurance to not only Iran, but all the signatories of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. It was one of the many promises that the US made to convince everyone else to sign the NPT. The other promise was to work towards its own nuclear disarmament.

In both cases, the US has totally ignored and violated the promises.

Such promises to Iran would not be worth the paper their written on.

I don't pretend to be able to read anybody's mind. It is not too hard, however, to imagine how an Iranian might regard such a deal. There is a lot of mending to perform before such commitments could be expected to be taken seriously.

" . . . nuclear weapons are actually good for nothings because politically they are impossible to use. Also, making decent nukes is not all that easy, you can spend a decade on futile effort."

If this is so, why bust your chops trying to do a deal in the first place?

And another thing: the more the U.S. leans on Iran by "not taking anything off the table," it seems to me the more pressure they are under to develop nukes. If the U.S. said, just do what the hell you want, we could care less as long as you don't attack anybody, there is less reason for Iran to even get nukes in the first place.

Actually, nukes or not good for anyone, so it would be better to limit their proliferation.

To me, a good strategic weapon can be

(a) dangled like sword of Damocles

(b) introduced with excruciating slowness

(c) withdrawn as soon as an acceptable deal is in sight.

Nukes are good for making fake threats that can be rightfully diagnosed as fake by the adversaries. Even so, fake threats can lead to some all-to-real massacres, so it is worth to avoid it.

It is not an ultimatum but a proposal for a deal.

Iran desists from uranium enrichment, we stop pressuring China and Russia to limit the scope of military technology they provide to Iran.

Is it a good deal for Iran? I am pretty much convinced that it is? Is it a good deal for us? If "nukes in the hands of ayatollahs" are the largest existential threat to our civilization since Attilla the Hun, or something remotedly similar, then yes. Otherwise, hyperventilating and pontification is to politicians and political scientists what aerobic exercise is to us hoi polloi.

In general, I would theorize that an effective foreign policy should include structuting deals that leave us and our adversaries better off.

Russian or Chinese military technology won't resolve Iran's energy shortfall, which is the whole reason that the (link) US encouraged Iran to go nuclear in the first place(link)sound economic basis for Iran developing nuclear power, and Iran wants to be able to use its own uranium to make some of the nuclear fuel it will need, without being totally reliant on outside sources like Russia.

Analysts agree that the oil will not last forever, indeed, we may already have reached the point of peak oil. The developing world will bear the brunt of the imminent energy crunch. European countries already rely on nuclear power for a third to a half of their electricity needs, and both France and the US have invested in new enrichment plants. South Korea, China, Britain and the US have all recently announced plans for dramatic expansion of their nuclear power industries. Even Rice has conceded that developing countries will have to turn to nuclear energy.

Iran is no exception Despite its large oil and gas reserves, it already had a clear case for diversifying its energy resources into nuclear power by the 1970s. Since then its population has tripled, while its oil production has almost halved, and it now consumes about 40% of its oil domestically.


(Source: Le Monde Diplomatique)

The economic justification of nuclear power was confirmed by studies in both the US(pdf file):

[T]he oil export decline we project implies that Iran’s claim to need nuclear power to preserve exports is genuine. U.S. insistence that Iran’s nuclear technology program has no economic purpose has obscured the regime’s petroleum crisis, of which the nuclear power need is one symptom.

Studies in the UK also support Iran's economic case for nuclear power:

In the absence of a "smoking gun", Washington often says the fact Iran is the No. 2 producer in OPEC and sits on the second biggest natural gas reserves in the world is enough to make its atomic ambitions suspicious.

The Foreign Affairs Select Committee of Britain's parliament said last March that based on a study it commissioned: "It is clear ... that the arguments as to whether Iran has a genuine requirement for domestically produced nuclear electricity are not all, or even predominantly, on one side."

Some US arguments against Iran "were not supported by an analysis of the facts" the committee added, noting that much of the natural gas flared off by Iran - which US officials say could be harnessed instead of nuclear power - was not recoverable for energy use.

Paul Hughes, "Iran's Arguments for Nuclear Power Make Some Sense," Reuters News, 2 March 2005

We should not permit the assumption that Iran is building nuclear weapons to go unquestioned. There's no evidence of that. In speculating about how to get Iran to drop a nuclear weapons program, we're confusing a perfectly legal and economically justifiable nuclear energy program with a weapons program, and we're hop-skipping over that minor inconvenient fact that no weapons program has been found by the IAEA, just as we hop-skipped over the fact that the IAEA had found no WMDs in Iraq.

Those who claim that Iran lives in a dangerous neighbourhood and therefore must be seeking nuclear weapons as a deterrent are engaging in a logical fallacy known as "subverted support": they are attempting to explain a phenomenon when there is no evidence that the phenomenon exists in the first place.
(Source: Rhetoric of War: First Iraq, then Iran?)

I agree with you, but on the other hand, why it should be a priority for Iran to become independent from the import of nuclear fuel?

My private opinion is that they do it because it gives them a just cause to quarrel with USA. Indeed, the nonproliferation treaty gives them the right to do it, and we basically renege on the conditions of this agreement. I see a combination of two things:

(a) for the purpose of politics, a quarrel with USA is useful

(b) the legal soundness of their position matters a lot to Iranian leaders, we often forget that they are jurists by profession and faith

Conservative Iranians want to show the population at home and in "near-abroad" how rotten the West is, and one aspect of the rottenness is that we, the West, do not give a shit about what a law or a treaty really says, unlike the supreme Shia jurists who are damn careful about it. In other words, we are barbarians.

As far as actual energy needs are concerned, I think that they are a secondary consideration, because Iran could try to complete the nuclear plant first. By the same token, the hawkish part of our foreign policy elite wants to "contain" Iran for reasons totally independent from nuclear program.

Iran was scheduled to have 22 functioning nuclear reactors by 2000, that's why there's priority for Iran to become independent from the import of nuclear fuel. Iran's exports of oil will run out in less that 15 years by some accounts.

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