Oh C'mon Reed... I'd LOVE for Gore to run for president.

But having a NYT bestselling book does NOT put a person above question.

These observations might be wrong, but they're legitimate.

Nobody did anything wrong here except pick on a guy that you like. Andc, Hell, I like him too. But when it comes to free expression, I don't care whose ox is gored.

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Well, let's see. The campaign consultant who pulled out of his/her rear-end the idea that Democrats don't want Gore to run was likely from among the usual suspects:

Dick Morris
Bob Shrum
James Carville
Joe Trippi (committed to Edwards)

Any other guesses?

If you had a party and a person was talking like Borger and Ifill my guess is that you would write them off as a loud mouth idiot. Why then would you voluntarily subject yourself to them and waste your precious time? I haven't watched a talking heads show in over a decade and I can assure you that I do not feel in the least deprived.

My hope is that Gore runs and tells the media that he is not going to have a media plane or give them free rides, but they are welcome to fly commercial to watch him give speeches. Then, when he gets elected, he shuts down the media room at the White House and blogs every day about what he is doing and why he is doing it.

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What do you expect? Gore says the media has no clothes and so of course they are ridiculing him. After all, that's easier than actually trying to be responsible and effective journalists.

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So what did you think of Gore's book? What do you think of his thesis?

Hello?

MSM is an echo chamber only a limited point of view is allowed. Joe Klein ca tell Joe Scarborough of MSNBC a story of man a at campaign rally who supported the war because Saddam Hussein took down the towers in NYC. Klein went on to say that the man believed this because "certain" individuals put out this false implication. Klein never addressed the role of MSM stenography. Scarborough will not counter Klein's message.
Pseudo-psychologist Bay Buchanan analyzes Sen Clinton. A reporter who left his pregnant wife for another woman writes a HRC tome. He is followed by another in his deconstruction of Hillary by two other reporters. One of the duo has had his reporting technique questioned. The past history of the Hillary Clinton books will never have their own pasts critiqued on the MSM shows where they hawk their wares.
Because of the echo-chamber nature of the news media, when reporters discuss information with each other, there is a reduction to the norm. The reporters come to believe and say the same things because their is no opposing point of view.
Mitt Romney has told obvious prevarications, but has not been tagged with the liar label that Gore carried. The media are trying to give the country another GOP POTUS.

By the way, how does Borger and Ifill differentiate between Gore's 'just selling books' and, oh.....other authors like
Walter Isaacson, Christopher Hitchens, or
Michael Beschloss and what they do?

Is this the same CBS that looked to burnish its News operation by hiring Katie Couric? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

Actually not, because anybody who's been paying attention to their 'highbrow' news magazine 60 Minutes can see this not-so-subtle editorial shift in their position--it's the difference between the treatment that Gore or Elizabeth Edwards gets, versus, say, Condoleeza Rice.

It's a sad decline for a once-proud news operation, like an aging burlesque dancer forced to go 'xxx' because the goods are no longer there...

Don't forget LONGTOM that Gore actually WON the first election, although I agree that he could have been a better campaigner....a little more type A.

I have watched Washington Week for years and mostly gotten pretty good information from it even though I am left of center. However, I was offended by Borger and even Gwen with their "inside the Beltway" snarks, head-nods and grins about some of the candidates especially Gore. It was unnecessary to paint him as a guy just selling books. He's probably not my candidate but he has contributed much to our country. All I need is some facts and a little well informed opinion from Washington Week. Tell me what about his book that makes you all so condescending, ladies!! Could it be about you?

If you are not the elephant, the scenery never changes.

In the long parade of the Washington, D.C. court of kings and entourage, the scribes and jesters do not lead. They follow.

Gloria Berger and her fellow scribes dutifully regurgitate according to the royal script.

Her output only serves to locate her position in this ridiculous constellation.

Filing Borger and friends under: Born under a foul sign.

Why do I increasingly get the feeling that these Washington journalists gin up empty controversies for their reports so they can finish quickly and get back to arranging their social calendar.

Gloria Borger is another reason why I like Mainstream Corporate Media (MCM) instead of MSM.

Came across this formulation years ago in a comment somewhere--wish I could give credit where it is due, but using MCM emphasizes the corporate aspect of so much of our media, including PBS and NPR, which must watch their p's and q's, as well as D's and R's. Amazingly, when discussing health care solutions recently, there was no one representing single payer! What's with that? Must not offend their corporate sponsors...?

Psssssst!  Gore won!

One day we may find out all the facts of voter supression, especially in Florida.  Even without suppression, Gore won.  You want me to show you a "certain loser?"  Meet George Bush, who has never done anything right in his whole life.  OK, he was appointed by the Supreme Court, but you really can't find a bigger loser than Dubya.

I take issue with you on this:

 He's a certain loser who has already waged the worst Democratic campaign for the presidency in a hundred years. He doen't deserve a chance at breaking his own record.

Leave out voter suppression.   Leave out the Supreme Court.  Do you deny he won the popular vote?  How does that compare to Jimmy Carter's second run?

Jan

LongTom says:

"None of this, however, makes Gore a viable candidate. A fine fellow, an excellent administrator, and a terrible politician. He's a certain loser who has already waged the worst Democratic campaign for the presidency in a hundred years."

Wait a minute....now, wait a minute....I thought Kerry "waged the worst Democratic campaign for the presidency in a hundred years."

for a sterling example of the rnc spin that finds voice in the wdc cocktail circuit, and how that has nothing to do with reality, there's nothing better than a segment on dan bartlett on friday's countdown.

richard wolfe from newsweek was the first rnc parrot up with the bromides about 'dan is the son chimpy never had' -- the same crap lil mikey allen spouted in his politico write-up. after a couple of minutes of lathering bartlett's tenure, wolfe was out and onscreen came james moore, author of 'bush's brain' and with an extensive knowledge of texas politics. needless to say, moore's take on bartlett was about 180 from the sally quinn party pal set.

c&l has the clip and it's definitely worth checking out.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/02/wanking-dan-bartlett/

oh, and re gloria borger. i'd cut her some slack -- it looks like the latest tightening around her eyes may have squeezed out some of her brain.

Pardon me, but in my opinion, they are NOT legitimate observations from prominent national "journalists" when:

1. Gore has over and over and over again made his position about running clear on tv, raido and in print for months and months--he isn't thinking about it at this time, doesn't see himself in the race in 2008.

and

2. The ostensible reason they were discussing him at all was because he does indeed have the #1 best seller right now and it is about an extremely important topic that they refuse to discuss because it involves criticism of they themselves, their employers and the very bedrock assumptions of their corporate business enterprise which masquerades as journalism. Talking about the substance of Gore's book would mean they might have to start acknowledging their crucial role in undermining the democratic foundations of our society.

I think Reed was rightly using this particular blather by Borger and Ifill, on WWIR, on PBS, to make a broader point about the state of journalism as a distributor of duplicity and thoughtlessness (as described in Gore’s book).

PBS, a public entity, with a recent history of a quasi-Republican takeover (ouster of Moyers), coinciding with six years of rampant Washington Insider-ism by the press and the right-wing influence across all media demands closer scrutiny. WWIR is a news roundup. It is supposed to be a fact based venture, not a bleating pundit show, but this is just another of the hopelessly blurred lines that surrounds the news/entertainment/advocacy/talk show commercial product.

Two recent documentaries that I could not bear to watch all the way through cast a light on the political slant of our national network. The "New anti-Semitism" documentary hosted by Judy Woodruff was disgraceful propaganda coming from the home of Frontline. This was followed by the America at the Crossroads series (some good), one of which was a straight Richard Perle apologia and another a creepy, AIPAC-style “expose” of the Arab Brotherhood by Mike Isikoff.

I think the general profit motivations to turn media into entertainment plays into the superficial reporting on politics, which helps Republicans. Has there ever been a valid reason for a legitimate journalist to breath the name Paris Hilton? There should not even be a question anymore that rightwing body snatchers have taken over, influenced or scared the press away from substantive truth-telling, attacking from many angles, all the while crying foul at the liberally-biased MSM.

He's not president is he? Doesn't that kind of define "winning?"

Gore lost an unloseable election. He made every mistake conceivable, and looked indecisive while doing it. Just awful.

You sure have a different definition of winning than I do. From where I sit, the winner gets to hold the office, the loser goes home.

One thing I'll never forgive Gore for is how eager he was to concede on election night. Then he had to call Bush back and retract his concession. What an idiot!

I said that? I must have meant "second-worst."

I read The Howler; Somerby names names and supplies quotes of the light weight "journalists" of the day.

Ha! That was pretty funny.

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I disagree with you completely, but I know you believe what you say. Do you at least accept that Gore actually WON in 2000?   If you won't admit that then I guess we have no common ground.

All that said, who do you think is worthy?  Who has not made mistakes?  And most important, who do you think can get moderate republicans who are worried about the futures of their children and grandchildren to vote for them?

Hillary?  They hate her!  They distrust her!  (and as a yellow dog democrat, I don't hate her, but I'd have to hold my nose to vote for her -- why would ANY republican do tha?)

Obama?  He was my great hope, and he let me down last night by not answering questions and being too careful.

Edwards?  Unfortunately he doesn't have a chance.

Kucinich?  The smartest guy at the debate, but too smart for the average voter.

Gore:  Our only answer.  If he waits until the right moment; when all seems to be lost, we will all rally to his side (Ihope)

Tom -- He was a wonderful candidate with a million faults in 2000.  He has grown up.  Give him a chance. 

He is our only hope.

(Just call me princess Leiah, OBWan Kanobi!)

Jan

But Gore was a slam dunk in 2000!
A way for the electorate to continue the prosperity of the Clinton years while washing their hands clean of the Clinton scandals. And Gore was running against a candidate about as formidable as Dan Quayle.

What happened? Sure, Gore got the shaft from the media, but what did he do about it? How did he counterattack? How did he neutralize the media's unfairness, or turn it to his advantage?

Gore is awful. Sure, he was treated unfairly, but why is THAT going to change? It won't, because the right controls the media.

And I would really have to leave the country while waiting for Gore to pick his NEXT running mate. After picking Lieberman, what would he do this time? Pick Newt Gingrich? Or how about Lieberman AGAIN?

The voters aren't looking for absolution. They want to move FORWARD. Gore and Hillary are too much aprt of the past.

Gloria Borger guest hosted CNN's STATE OF THE UNION this Sunday. The topic was the failed terrorist attack on the airline Sunday. One of her guests, was South Carolina's Senator Jeff DeMint, who has been holding up the appointment of the new head of the TSA and yet Borger failed to ask DeMint a single question on the subject. They did plenty of bashing of Janet Napolitano who as head of Homeland Security may be the top appointment for air traffic safely, but she is also in charge of all other national security issues including immigration. In order to do her job right, she needs good top managers, but apparently to Jim DeMint, politics comes before country as he refuses to allow the Senate a simple up or down vote Obama's nomination.

If you think Jim Demint should stop playing politics with our safety, let him know:

Senator Jim DeMint
340 Russell
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-6121
Fax: 202-228-5143
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