A Present for Sally Quinn
Bloomberg has a long and fascinating piece on who "Obama's people" (on economics, anyway) are:
Obama's economic brain trust -- a blend of up-and-coming academics and former officials in President Bill Clinton's administration -- displays a fondness for backing innovative solutions to the nation's problems. [...]
Three academics -- Austan Goolsbee, 37, a University of Chicago professor and columnist for The New York Times, Jeffrey Liebman, 39, a pension and poverty expert at Harvard University, in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and David Cutler, 41, a Harvard health economist -- form the core of Obama's economic team.
The article goes on to list issues in which this group of young wonks and Obama's policy team more broadly are trying to build non-traditional solutions on the auto industry (see Monday's speech in Detroit), trade and health care. If Clinton was trying to find a creative middle ground between Right and Left, these folks look to be trying to find a creative middle ground between Left and Center. The Fourth Way, you might say.
I won't claim half the wonkishness necessary to analyze these policies on an individual basis, but on the broad strokes I'm heartened. They seem to be trying to build off of the older neoliberal willingness to stray from labor-left orthodox on solutions (i.e. markets can work for some things) without altogether giving up the goals (universal health care, more than a passing concern for those destabilized by globalization, etc.).
None of this strikes me as particularly surprising, of course. Obama has been making these sounds for a few years now, just not on the stump for President. The challenge, politically, will be whether splitting the difference between the Party's constituencies will leave him without a natural base or will allow him to take a little from everywhere.















Clinton may have been "trying to find a creative middle ground between Right and Left", but he usually ended up finding middle ground between Right and Center.
May 10, 2007 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Really depends on where you put the center, of course.
May 10, 2007 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not so sure it will work, and tend to think this "fourth way" approach isn't all that effective, and may just muddy things even more around the question of "Who is Obama."
But, hell, no one's voting for Obama because of his "people." It's his ability to stir people, to make people think there's some possibility out there beyond Bush, and beyond "typical" politics.
Just like Clinton's win had nothing to do with his policies. It was that he played sax on Arsenio and he could feel our pain.
May 10, 2007 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
David Cutler, Obama's health care expert, is, I'm afaid, not left-of-center, but right of center.
I've read his book and interviewed him. And while he's a perfectly nice person (as is Obama, no doubt), for a long time Cutler's positions have supported the for-profit corporate interests that are making billions on our current health system--and that don't want to see change that would, in any way, cut into those profits. "Universal access" is okay if it would bring them more customers. But they don't want to see reform that calls for higher quality at lower prices.
Culter argues that our sprailing health care costs aren't such a big problem. (In other words, drug-makers don't charge too much. Device-makers don't charge too much.) We're getting good value for our dollar, he says. He ignores the waste in the system--the fact that according to other healthcare eeconomists, $1 out of $3 of our healthcare dollars is wasted on unncessary tests and procedures, unproven treatments, ineffective, sometimes riksy drugs and devices that have been "fast-tracked" through the FDA.
Matthew Holt, of thehealthcareblog.com, sums up how Cutler's writings support the medical-industrial complex:
"industry is totally happy to use Cutler's arguments -- very much out of context -- to praise ex-post all manner of technologies, procedures and services that they’ve foisted on the American patient and taxpayer. The ink was barely dry on the editions of the New England Journal [where Cutler published an article saying that we're getting great value for our health care dollars], when Advamed, an umbrella group for all kinds of medical technology companies, was out with its press release. Its chief lackey, one Stephen J. Ubi, was certainly not looking this gift horse in the mouth:
"When health care dollars go toward procedures and products that make a difference, that's when our health care system is at its most effective," Ubl said." etc. etc.
I'd add this to what Holt says: The NEJMM article that Cutler co-authored argued that if you look at spending and health trends from 1960 to 2000 we've been getting a real bang for our buck. That's true --if you go back to 1960. We had huge medical breakthroughs in thesixties, the seventies, and even the eighties.
The problem is that if you look at say, 1996 to 2006--you find that in recent years, we've reached a point of diminishing returns in many, many areas.
One of Cutler's big examples is how much progress we've made in treating heart disease. But recent research shows that in recent years, we've been doing way too many anigioplasties (using over-priced coated stents that have been hyped by the device industry, with help from the main-stream media). Many patients would have been better off with less agressive, less expensive treatment. We're actually hurting patients by over-treating them. This is true in many other areas as well--prostate cancer, for example.
Holt concludes: "But given that Cutler won’t call a spade a spade, on the “value” issue, the overall ramification of the work he is doing . . . is that the real debate about how to fix our financing system and deliver some type of cost-effective medical care in this country is getting pushed to the sidelines. That of course is just how the industry wants it."
Cutler knows this, of course. I'm not at all clear as to why he ignores the waste. But it may be his sense as a centrist economist that what's good for American business. is more business. Growth is always good.
But what's good for America's health is not always more healthcare. While some people in this country (the uninsured, the underinsured and many on Medicaid), get too little care others (the well-insured and many on Medicare) are getting too much care in the form of all of those pricey, not fully-tested, drugs, treatments and devices.
May 10, 2007 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
MM: "David Cutler, Obama's health care expert, is, I'm afaid, not left-of-center, but right of center." That's very interesting and helpful. Thank you. Do you think it has to do with why Obama's been relatively slow in putting forward a proposal in this area? I realize that I don't myself demand too much in the way of policy details this soon.
John
http://www.haberarts.com/
May 10, 2007 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
No Democratic President is going to be able to get "his" health care program, or just about any other program thru Congress intact. Democrats just don't do things that way. For that reason I don't expect or want Obama to develop a complete health care policy package and campaign on it. What I do want is assurance that he understands the importance of changing how we deliver health care in our country, and assurance that he will work to make the necessary changes. I have received those assurances.
Getting from here to there, where we have a single payer health care system will require a substantial majority in Congress to buy into the need and the importance of filling the need, plus a president who is not in the pocket of the health insurance and drug industries. Obama will be that president.
Hoppy in Sacramento
May 10, 2007 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh please, nobody wants to know how many and what kind of pointy-headed interleckshuals advise Obama!
What we really need to know is when they stopped (if they ever did) being Black Panthers, Black Extremists, Black Nationalists and how many white women they've raped to come up with their economic policies!
Sally Quinn needs to know! I mean, Obama is only a light tan, but we know there are Negroes in that woodpile, and we've got to get them exposed.
May 10, 2007 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
John--
I would like to think--and hope--that Obama has been relatively slow to put forward a proposal because he is thoughtful and realizes just how complicated health care reform is.
I'm not sure I want him to put forward a 55-page, 302 point plan. But I would like to see him begin a thoughtful national discussion about what is wrong what our health care system--and what needs to be fixed.
It's not just that we lack univeral access--costs are too high, and quality is not high enough.
It would be great if Obama could help people begin to understand that quality and lower costs go hand-in-hand. An efficient health care system that provides the right care to the right patient at the right time is less expensive than a profit-driven system that over-medicates and over-treats well-insured patients. The waste in our health care system isn't just a waste of money--it's "hazardous waste" that threatens our health.
If you're interested, here's a link to an article that I've written about this problem http://dartmed.dartmouth.edu/spring07/html/atlas.php.
May 10, 2007 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, Mooser,
I think,in the future, you'd better add something like: /snark (end snark) to your comments. It looks like not everyone here has your sense of humour.
May 10, 2007 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
" If you're interested, here's a link to an article that I've written about this problem." Good article. It boils down to a sentence about fee per service. And it's just the sort of thing that a naive person would assume an insurer would curtail to maximize profits. Sometimes I think anti-libertarians should carry a rubber stamp that says in red caps "market failure" and use it liberally.
John
http://www.haberarts.com/
May 10, 2007 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not a zero. Political commentary.
May 10, 2007 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
A zero it is. It wasn't political commentary at all. It was a post intended only to enflame the reader and detract from any discussions. In other words a pure troll post, whether or not the author is a troll. The only alternative explanation is that the poster actually believes that Obama's supporters are all Black Panthers and similar people, which is again a trollish attitude totally out of place in a discussion about a serious subject - the presidency of the United States. I stand by the zero.
Hoppy in Sacramento
May 10, 2007 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course it was political commentary, hoppy.
It was mocking the viewpoint of Sally Quinn, who, in a recent article, demanded to know what kind of "people" were working for Obama.
That's where the racism lies -- not in someone who was making a comment on Quinn's article.
That's the title of this post -- "A Present for Sally Quinn."
So now we're just zeroing posts for using icky words?
Either way (and I know you did not do this), there's absolutely no reason to give ME a zero for my comment.
Our obligation is to define the liberty of all, not to mandate our own moral code. -- SCOTUS that was...
May 11, 2007 5:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Your comment in no way deserved a zero. I have been thinking about the one I gave a zero to. I'm willing to accept that it was intended as satire, even though the satire was so subtle as to be nearly indetectable. I think when we do a comment like that, intending it as satire, we need to add something that makes it obvious that satire was the intent. I shall change my zero rating.
Hoppy in Sacramento
May 11, 2007 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
To those who gave this comment a zerp: you cannot troll rate someone for explaining a rating you disagree with. That is not trolling.
May 11, 2007 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I do agree, a text-based medium certainly makes the nuance often needed for communication a difficult thing.
May 11, 2007 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Andrew I have never given any comment a "zerp" rating, nor will I ever do so. Now that I think of it though, maybe yours should be the recipient of that honor.
Hoppy in Sacramento
May 11, 2007 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
:-)
Sadly it is beginning to look like they may all be reformed rightwing turncoat DLC'ers interested mainly in protecting privilege, wealth and power for elites, e.g. suffering middle class, now.
Thanks for the laughs.
Edwards is looking better and better. Maybe it's those expensive haircuts.
Best, Terry
May 12, 2007 7:18 AM | Reply | Permalink