Why Real Reform is Necessary--and Politically Possible.
First, congratulations to Jon. The reviews suggest that "Sick" is going to help legitimize discussions of radical national health reform. “Single-payer” is no longer a dirty word.
I understand why some believe that radical reform is politically impossible. But they remind me of those who said that we could never pass Medicare. Eventually, the pain became too great. Too many seniors could not afford care, and popular support trumped the then-powerful AMA. In 1962, Gallup polls showed public support at 69% and President Kennedy called for Medicare in front of crowd of 20,000 in Madison Square Garden.
Still, it wasn’t easy.
After Kennedy’s speech, the Medicare bill was defeated 52-48. This did not stop the Democrats—they understood what was at stake. They knew that the opposition would be fierce, but they also understood that this was like civil rights. It was not a time for caution. It was a time for politicians who cared about issues.
Ultimately, President Johnson succeeded by pulling doctors into his tent. This could be done today--polls show that roughly 50% of U.S. physicians favor national health insurance. But public support was key.
And today, public support is building, especially among aging baby-boomers.
If you are forty and healthy, you may not feel the change in the zeitgeist. But today, boomers over 50 are beginning to face serious health problems. They talk about healthcare with an intensity that they once reserved for real estate.
We never would have won Medicare incrementally, state by state. As for the current crop of state plans for health care reform, I defer to Matthew Holt who points out that “If instead [of genuine universal coverage] we try to do the kind of wraparound plans that are being pushed by Republicans, albeit liberal ones, in Massachusetts and California, then we will find that as employers retreat from providing insurance, the pool for everybody else will be regarded as welfare. And welfare payments in America are politically extremely vulnerable.”
In other words, we’ll wind up with a poor plan for the poor.
Half-way measures are dangerous because they could create the illusion of reform. On this point I was happy to read what Jon had to say about Safeway CEO Steve Burd (co-architect of Wyden's plan for reform) in his first post yesterday:
"Burd has become a vocal universal health care advocate - and he's trying to rally business to that option by warning them that, in the absence of such a compromise, single-payer will eventually become law. They, like he, don't want that.
"So that's why I think it's a mistake to settle on a compromise - at least for the moment."
Here Jon makes it clear that Burd (and Wyden, as well as others in the business world) are trying to hijack national health reform--to make sure that it is not real reform.
Wyden’s plan would simply pour more money into a broken system while giving consumers a “choice” between plans devised by insurers. (Here “choice” is Republican-speak for “pick the plan you can afford.”) Sure, the plans would be required to offer the same benefits Congressmen receive under FEHBP. But do a little research on FEHBP, and you find out that it’s not quite what it’s cracked up to be.
See this February 2007 white paper from the American Federation of Government Employees on spiraling co-pays, the effect of high-deductible plans on middle-class Federal Employees, etc.
By pumping more money into the system, Wyden’s plan would please the for-profit insurers, drug-makers, device-makers, specialists and hospitals who, today, are making exorbitant profits while covering and selling sometimes unnecessary, often overpriced goods and services. (For-profit insurers are no longer trying to tightly “manage” care. For a price, they’ll cover almost anything you see on TV, or hear about on the evening news, and then pass along the cost-- plus a profit--in the form of higher premiums.)
Meanwhile, patients watch their co-pays and deductibles climb.
The most honest physicians admit that in our system, over-treatment is driving healthcare inflation. Just today, I received an e-mail, out of the blue, from a physician who sits on the board of the American Society of Clinical Oncology. He wrote: “From where I sit, the problem is clearly one of perverse [financial] incentives which reward guys like me for giving folks lots of chemo--whether or not it will likely help them and whether or not they really understand the implications of their decision to have it.”
Here I disagree with those who suggest that private insurers are the “chief” problem in the system. (Though I absolutely agree that for-profit insurers are a serious problem---and ultimately we need to eliminate them, probably by forcing them to compete with Medicare on a level playing field. As others have said, this will take time. We cannot eliminate an entire industry in one fell swoop.)
But private insurers’ profits and administrative costs account for only 4.5% of our total health care bill—a sizable slice, to be sure, but eliminating them is not a long-term solution. It will not solve the ongoing problems of levitating costs and declining quality.
Probably most people in this discussion are aware of the medical research that has been done at Dartmouth over the past twenty-five years, revealing the waste in our health care system. In study after study, the Dartmouth team has shown that Medicare spends twice as much, per patient, in some regions of the country than in others--for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with medical science, the severity of the patient’s illness, or even his or her preferences.
What’s driving the higher costs? Supply.
“Build the beds and they will come.” In areas where there are more hospital beds and more specialists per capita, patients invariably receive more aggressive, more intensive, and more expensive care. They spend more days in the hospital. They undergo more diagnostic tests and minor surgeries. They see 10 or more specialists during the final months of life. And they are more likely to die in an intensive care unit.
What’s shocking is that outcomes are no better—they are worse. In a landmark study of chronically ill patients the researchers show that in the towns like Manhattan, L.A. and Miami, where patients receive the most intensive, aggressive care, mortality rates are higher and function following treatment is no better. This is true even at the most prestigious academic medical centers. I’ve written about this—and about how Dartmouth’s research may change the way Medicare does business -- in an article that came online yesterday.
Based on their research, the Dartmouth team estimates that one out of three of our health care dollars are squandered on redundant tests, unnecessary hospitalizations, unproven bleeding-edge procedures and over-priced new drugs and devices that are no better than the products that they have replaced.
This is why I, like Diane, believe that we need a “true public insurance system [which] offers things that you cannot expect from [for-profit ] insurers”—things like “negotiated and lower prices; a public accountability as to what is covered; the ability to set protocols based on best practices, reduce misuse and overuse of services and promote quality care.” The VA health care system (which is not in any way related to Walter Reed) serves as an excellent example of a public health care system that has done just that. See Phillip Longman’s excellent book: “Best Care Anywhere.”
If we are going to have sustainable universal healthcare, we have to rein in the waste and get health care inflation under control. Right now, health care costs are growing two to three times faster than GDP. This is not sustainable—even if we don’t try to offer care to everyone. It also is not inevitable. It can be fixed.
The good news is that the independent advisory panel that advises Congress on Medicare spending (MEDPAC) understands what needs to be done. In a March 1 report studded with references to the Dartmouth research, it makes numerous suggestions for eliminating over-treatment—including scrapping fee-for-service payments to physicians.
If Congress is not willing to give up fee-for-service, MedPac offers an alternative: Medicare could start paying physicians less per service in areas where patients receive the most aggressive care (like Manhattan and Miami) while paying doctors more in areas (like Minnesota and Iowa) where doctors practice more conservative medicine.
I don’t see Senator Hillary Clinton voting for this one. Like it or not, Medicare is going to have to move away from fee-for-service—another sign that major changes are coming.
The report also suggests that Medicare raise reimbursements for primary care physicians-- and consider paring reimbursements for some specialists. In addition, the report calls for more independent research on the “comparative effectiveness” of various drugs, devices and treatments, noting that today, when for-profit industry controls such studies, researchers tend to be biased. MedPac suggests that the government should play a greater role in head-to-head comparisons of products and services.. Read MedPac’s entire 236-page report here. Or get a summary of it in the Dartmouth Medicine article cited above.
If Medicare begins addressing the problem of waste over the next few years, that will make “Medicare for All” a much more plausible solution. To me, it seems the best, simplest solution. Everyone understands Medicare and almost everyone prefers Medicare to for-profit insurance.
Meanwhile, if Medicare insists on unbiased comparative-effectiveness data—and negotiates prices—it could become an honest broker for universal care.
But to build public support for reform, we have to let the public know what is driving health care inflation.
Most Americans still believe that more care, and more expensive care, is better care. When talking about reform we need to stress what is wrong with the system: people are selling overtreatment that is hazardous to your health.
Too many angioplasties, too many bypasses, too many Caesarians, too many newborns are put into neo-natal ICUs. . . . (See The New England Journal of Medicine, 16 May, 2002). We have to make it clear that we are not talking about rationing necessary care; we are talking about eliminating the profiteering, while making sure that “the right patient” gets “the right care” at “the right time.”
To build public support for radical health care reform we also need to train our sights on those on those who are making excessive profits in our money-driven health care system. A good campaign needs a good enemy—and the for-profit health care industry fits the bill perfectly.
Even Obama has suggested (however cautiously) that we should being to question the profitability of U.S. healthcare: “Another, more controversial area we need to look at is how much of our health care spending is going toward the record-breaking profits earned by the drug and health care industry,” he noted in January. “It’s perfectly understandable for a corporation to try and make a profit, but when those profits are soaring higher and higher each year while millions lose their coverage and premiums skyrocket, we have a responsibility to ask why."
That Obama would dare to make such a remark shows how the mood of the country is changing. A few years ago, it's hard to imagine any politician suggesting that "record-breaking profits" in virtually any American industry might be cause for concern. (Oil is the exception; but then we don’t tend to think of oil as an ‘American’ industry.) Yet, here, Obama--who has taken a lot of Wall Street money--is suggesting that one of the Street's most beloved industries may have become too greedy. (Wall Street likes healthcare for the same reason it likes tobacco: you have a gun to the customer's head. he'll pay whatever you ask.)
Of course challenging the for-profit industry will be “controversial.” As Matthew pointed out earlier in this discussion: “genuine universal coverage requires such substantial government intervention in the market that nobody in the current health care industry will be continuing to do business as usual.”
We are talking about massive change to a massive system.
But it can be done. Post-Enron, Americans are much less trusting about the motives of for-profit corporations. The public is not likely to be swayed by the private insurance industry the way it was when that industry defeated the Clinton plan. And as drug-makers and device-makers withdraw one product after another from the marketplace—while admitting that they didn’t tell patients and doctors the truth about risks and benefits—we are becoming more and more skeptical that they have our best interests at heart.
The health care industry’s lobbies will fight tooth and nail. We should not delude ourselves that we can persuade the industry’s stakeholders to willingly give up double-digit profits (or the executive compensation packages that come with those profits.)
Forget about enlisting their support. Forget about a liberal/conservative coalition. Some moderate Republicans will get on board if they see public support building. But the only way that we will win public support is if the public understands what’s wrong with the system—and demands change.
Here, baby-boomers could provide an important base. Those who say “We shouldn’t try to discuss what type of plan would work best because we don’t know what the political climate will be in 2009 or 2010” ignore what is baked into the cake: In 2010, baby-boomers will be three years older. And healthcare will be three years more expensive. (With costs rising 6% a year, it’s likely to be nearly 20% more expensive.) Meanwhile, there is every indication that the economy will be in worse shape. We’re going to have to pay for the economic follies of the Bush years. This means that Americans will be even more anxious about having a safety net.
Healthy, well-insured forty-year-olds may be harder to convince. Some may say “I like things the way they are—why change?” (At least they’ll say that until their employer slashes their benefits—or stops offering healthcare altogether.)
But boomers in their fifties are beginning to find out what their for-profit insurance does and doesn’t cover— just how much chemo costs—and just how crafty insurers can be when it comes time to pay up.
In other words, the boomers are not just worried about becoming UN-insured—they are anxious about being UNDER-insured. This is why so many of the Pepsi generation are counting the days until they become eligible for Medicare. To many of them, “Medicare for All” sounds like a splendid idea.
And remember, boomers like to march.












Comments (23)
Great (and not just cos I get quoted, although that does sway my opinion!)
BUT--if we need the boomers' demographics, is 2008 too soon? I think so, painful though that may be. But better to wait a bit and get it done, than take a false run in 2 years and have reform blown away for a another 15 years.
Matthew Holt The Health Care Blog
April 11, 2007 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
THANKS MAGGIE MAHAR. Bravo! for finally saying what needed to be said in this TPM Cafe Health Care reform coverage.
I'll be blunt by saying that many Americans have been duped by paternalistic organized U.S. medicine which keeps their patients infantilized and dependent. Right where they want them.
Nortin Hadler's writings emphasize the issue of efficacy of diagnostic and theraputic interventions many of which are surprisingly wasteful misadventures at best-harmful at worst.
American with good health care coverage must overcome the "more is always better" myth.
That will free up needed dollars for those who have no coverage or even basic care.
Thanks again,
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton, Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com
April 11, 2007 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a working link to
AFGE: 2007 Issue Paper Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FEHBP)
April 11, 2007 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great post. You've convinced this boomer.
April 11, 2007 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
On a side issue, apparently the Bush Administration has tasked the Office of Personnel Administration, the manager of the FEHBP, with the job of driving career federal employees out of government by steadily reducing their health benefits and year after year raising their insurance costs at twice the rate of increase of health care industry costs.
Apparently, when you're trying to destroy the competency and capability of government, there's more than one way to skin the cat.
April 12, 2007 12:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
The way to deal with the boomer problem, in terms of single payer, is to make an age related diminishing amount of coverage. Very much of the total cost of health care is incurred during the last couple weeks of life. If you want 2 more weeks of life, clean up your act. You will feel better too.
April 12, 2007 1:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great post, very thoughtful and informative.
I agree the Republican "choice" meme is a real sham.
Really the "choice" they advocate is a duopoly whereby large insurers fix rates to gouge consumers, making huge profits, and with huge bureaucracies to externalize costs that are ultimately borne by patients. They compete only in advertising and minor package tweaks, often to sell unneeded and sometimes harmful medical procedures and drugs.
Consumers are left to assume prices are fair because they're all pretty much the same, and competition supposedly ensures they're getting the best price.
If only they knew how bogus the "choice" and the competition really is, and how inherently inefficient for-profit insurers with redundant bureaucracies are.
April 12, 2007 3:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
“Really the "choice" they advocate is a duopoly whereby large insurers fix rates to gouge consumers, making huge profits, and with huge bureaucracies to externalize costs that are ultimately borne by patients.”
This statement appears to conflict with what Maggie Mahar wrote:
“But private insurers’ profits and administrative costs account for only 4.5%
of our total health care bill—a sizable slice, to be sure, but eliminating them is not a long-term solution. It will not solve the ongoing problems of levitating costs and declining quality.”
April 12, 2007 4:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Very helpful post. I appeciate the emphasis not on administrative costs alone, although no doubt those like Krugman who complain the system is using our money to screen us out have a point, but more importantly in paying for the most profitable services regardless of need.
I also especially like from the political perspective the point about easily winning the support of doctors. No one's going to run an attack ad about a fictitious elderly couple who don't get to choose their insurance company; it's about doctors. Getting doctors lined up to say this is how we can best respond to you is the best campaign possible.
I'm not so sure about rewarding practitioners based on geography rather than service. As a small point, it might raise constitutional issues of federal restraint of a certain kind of trade did not come with nationwide delivery of a good. On a moral issue, it might seem odd to deliver funds based on place and not on need. But on a practical level, it seems to apply a market solution where there's no free market: the patient as consumer can't freely relocate.
John
http://www.haberarts.com/
April 12, 2007 6:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if there won't be a backlash against attempts to rein in excessive use of health care. Just as the HMOs were demonized for denying access to some care.
April 12, 2007 7:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
We're all on the same page, essentially, but I'll disagree a bit here with both John and Maggie. Trying to win support for reform from all doctors as a bloc seems futile to me, since they tend to show greater solidarity than any guild or union ever did when they sense their collective income or status are threatened (e.g. Medicare, Clinton-care, and reform attempts by FDR, Truman, and Nixon). It will be too difficult to convince them all that such a massive change won't do that.
However . . .
There's a schism building between primary-care physicians and specialists. You see, even as the Bush years have favored the wealthiest, while the poor and the middle class have fallen behind, the same has happened among doctors. Specialist reimbursements have accellerated far faster than those of PCPs, which have stagnated, or even gone down, depending on how you measure it. It's resulted in significantly fewer med students and graduates willing to go into family medicine and primary care. The PCPs are quite resentful of the increasingly wealthy and cocky specialists.
That's a seam we can exploit with a divide-and-conquer strategy. Unfortunately, the poorer ones are going to be the ones we want on our side, if primary care is going to have greater emphasis in a post-reform healthcare system (and I think it should). So in a pure money fight, reform might fail or at least be grievously injured. Just something to consider in crafting reform strategy.
April 12, 2007 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for all the comments. I'd like to respond to just a couple of questions:
John-- First, yes there will be a backlash against attempts to rein in overtreatment--unless we do a good job of public education, making it clear that unncessary care isn't just expensive--it's
hazardous to your heatlh.
But mainstream publications like The Wall
Street Journal and The New York Times have already begun the process. Over the past four or five years they have published numerous stories about much-hyped treatments that proved riskier than advertised (from Vioxx to hormone replacement) as well as stories about doctors doing questionable spine surgery, unnecessary angioplasties, and diangostic testing that uncoveres "pseudodiseases,"--and leads to unnecessary treatments. And then there are those very pricey coated stents that are turning out to have all sorts of problems . . .
So consumers are becoming more aware that many in the health care industry are selling overtreatment--and selling hard.
At this point, we think we need more "round-up" stories on televison, on the blogs and in newspapers and magazines spotlighting just how overtreatment there is-- how much it costs, and how much harm it is doing. We also need to emphasize that when someone gets an unncessary MRI, we all pay for it--either in the form of higher insurance premiums, or higher Medicare premiums and taxes.
J Haber--I wasn't endorsing paying doctors less in high-treatment regions. it wouldn't be fair (because not all doctors in high-treatment regions are wasteful) and in any case, politically it's a non-starter. The states where treatment is most intensive are also the states that have the most representatives in Congress--a major reason why Congress doesn't like to talk about the variations in how much Medciare spends in various parts of the country.
But the Medicare Advisory Panel is urging Congress to think about paying physicians for outcomes and efficiency (using fewer resrouces why achieving excellent outcomes) rather than fee-for-servcie. They suggest using places like the Mayo Clinic as benchmarks for efficient care. (Medicare spents far less per patient at Mayo than at does on very similar patients at places like UCLA hospital. This is not because Mayo's prices are lower, but because Mayo practices more conservative care--fewer tests, surgeries, specialists etc,. yet outcomes are better, and both patient and doctor satisfaction are higher. If UCLA practiced medeicine the way Mayo does, research shows that UCLA would need 50% fewer physicians!
Finally, Rick you are right about the schism between primary care docs and specialists. Primary care docs and family physicians are underpaid. But there are other schisms to be exploited: for example, women doctors are much more inclined to favor national health insurance and single-payor than men. And there are certain specialities that are far more reform-minded than others. Finally, there are geographic differences: in what some call "Canada South" (which includes much of hte NorthWest and Northern New England) physicians tend to have a much more enlightened view of their professions. They're more willing to work together in teams, to practicce evidence-based medicine, and to work on salary (rather than fee-for-service) --as they do at Mayo.
April 12, 2007 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
“John-- First, yes there will be a backlash against attempts to rein in overtreatment--unless we do a good job of public education, making it clear that unncessary care isn't just expensive--it's
hazardous to your heatlh.
That’s fine, but a few sob stories of sympathetic patients denied treatment by “government bureaucrats” will overwhelm millions of words of logical education. Just as “Insurance clerks” swamped the HMOs.
April 12, 2007 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not exactly, those statements aren't equivocal.
What Mahar said is right, but a tip of the iceberg. What I said was right, specifically: "huge bureaucracies to externalize costs that are ultimately borne by patients."
Her 4.5% administrative costs refers to insurers internal admin apparatus. That leaves out a number of other bureaocracies which are created as a direct and virtually unavoidable consequence.
1) As Mahar mentioned, profit in pharmaceuticals and medical stocks are blockbuster, really out of control due to no-bid price and consumer marketing manipulations, and that's a big overhead borne by patients. In economics, if you're considering financing a program publicaly or privately, and weighing the cost/benefit to consumers, then one has to ask what value is added by the shareholders deducting profits. If their "job" is to efficiently allocate readily available capital for a known need and known technologies, that's an administrative task. Then it follows if you can get a not-for-profit agency to do the same job more cost efficiently, that's an administrative savings. Leaving profits aside, there are several others wasteful bureaucratic costs.
2) There is the additional bureaucracy doctors and hospitals must create to interface with the insurers bureaucracy. Hence they generate tons of unnecessary paperwork and even litigation, all to pass the bill. Every medical office has to have a large staff to deal just with the insurers. That's another big expense that is ultimately borne by patients.
3) Insurer's bureaucracy tries to avoid payment, and externalize costs onto the hospitals and doctors. Hospitals and doctors bureaucracy make up for this by folding some back into over-charges to insurers, writing some off at already inflated rates to seem less profitable and avoid taxes (making the taxpayer pay), and the remainder comes from massively overcharging the uninsured especially the poor in emergency rooms. Studies have shown the uninsured are often overcharged several fold. All of that cost is just wasteful bureaucracy, ultimately borne by patients.
4) The pharmaceutical bureaucracy, which spends more on marketing drugs than it spends on R&D or manufacturing drugs, is directly a consequence of for-profit insurers bureaucracy and insurers marketing people. The way it works is every pharmaceutical company wants to get their drugs covered, especially the most expensive newly patented ones, many of which have nominal value or may even be harmful. They know the marketing people and bureaucracy of for-profit insurers are the weakest gate keepers, so that's where they attack in two ways: marketing directly to them, and marketing to them indirectly through consumers. It's just marketers marketing to marketers. Bureaucracy on bureaucracy. And the costs of that are ultimately borne by patients.
When you add up all the waste of for-profit insurance, and compare it to medical care under various single payer systems, (every other major developed country has single payer) it's around 50%, or more. All of that waste stems from the bureocracy of for-profit insurers.
For-profit insurers:
They take some of the biggest and least risky profits on the market. They have their own bureaucratic costs. Their bureaucracy externalizes costs to doctors and hospitals creating other bureaucracies to pass the bill round and round. Some of that gets dropped on taxpayers, some on the insured, some on the uninsured, but for-profit insurers keep making those big profits at everyone else's expense. They're the weakest gatekeepers to waste and very vulnerable to marketing of expensive drugs and procedures with nominal value, and may even be harmful.
Bureaucracy on bureaucracy. Marketing to marketers. Overhead on overhead. For-profit thinking leading to snake-oil and bad medicine. It's all waste, waste, waste and harm, harm, harm.
That's why every other major developed nation has single payer health care. It's just fundamentally more efficient and gets more and better health care to more people for less costs.
April 12, 2007 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Her point was that ~50% of doctors, a quorum, already see the merits of single payer, and the momentum is towards single-payer. That's a perfectly reasonable argument to me.
Doctors in the 1960's are different from doctors today. Then we were fighting a cold war against communism and had black lists and McCarthyism.
Today, Medicare has been successful, doctors are sick of insurance companies bureaucracy, and doctors travel to european and Asian nations with very high quality of life and health care, and see efficient single payer systems. doctors today have a much more balanced and reasonable view, based from experience, not ideology.
In the 90's it wasn't doctors that killed Clinton's health care plan, it was insurers. Big difference.
April 12, 2007 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, I don't agree with that at all. Medical waste is borne by everybody, and it's to a point where it's totally un-affordable.
Want to talk about horror stories? Those wasteful medical costs and bloating are creating far, FAR, more tragic stories.
Just one example, GM's medical costs are totally out of control. As they famously made the point: they spend more on medicine than steel. It's really hurting their competitiveness becasue Japanese makers have far more efficient health care costs and better care! (Though GM has other problems too!) So think of all the tragic stories of GM layoffs, and people dying because they can no longer afford not only medical care, but heat int he winter because they're unemployed and broke, and can't afford a new GM car now either!
Medical waste is a vicious cycle that creates far, FAR more tragic stories than single payer.
On top of that, the biggest advocates for medical waste are for-profit enterprises, who are basically selling snake oil at enormous profits.
Once people are well informed, it's a done deal.
April 12, 2007 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, the image of a few sobbing women who were denied cutting edge treatment because it was too "wasteful" will outweigh all your financial arguments in a heartbeat.
April 12, 2007 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lol. You're so wrong you think you're right.
Yeah, that'll be a tragic picture, but a relatively tiny one. You want o compare tragic stories? Go ahead. That's a total loser for insurance companies.
On the other side are tens of millions, literally tens of millions, of more tragic stories.
For one example take the tens of thousands of people laid off from GM and such because health care costs are skyrocketing for Wall Street profits. Those people are going to suffer more and die earlier due to diseases they couldn't afford drugs for, heat they couldn't afford in winter, etc.
Take the millions of parents who are feeling the crunch of high health care costs, and who have to work multiple jobs and they and their children suffer, emotionally, developmentally, and medically as a result.
And there are tens of millions of such people. All suffering so Big Insurance execs and Wall Street can buy second mansions and yachts, for basically providing nothing but waste.
April 12, 2007 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suggest you research wnat a few sobbing women did to the HMOs a few years ago. All their arguments about cost containment fell on deaf ears, just as your claims of lost jobs will, right or wrong.
April 12, 2007 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yesterday's news. Things change. You're still reading an old playbook.
One can only hope Big Insurance is as naive, but all the evidence says even major executives are very afraid single payer is coming, because they know the high costs and low quality f the existing wasteful system, which incentivizes profit not care, is becoming very politically unpopular.
They're unpopular for a very simple reason, even though you alone seem determined not to see it, which makes your opinion the outlier.
High medical costs are causing massive suffering, resulting in a lack of medical care, and inferior medical care, filled with waste and even harmful drugs and procedures.
It's beyond the point where people can afford it, and you can never afford inferior care for a higher price.
People will not continue supporting increasing health care costs doubling inflation, for inferior care, to the point where it's putting people out of work and burdening the economy, creating more suffering and poverty, and yes, medical hardship.
You can either get on the bus or get under the wheels. But it's leaving soon.
April 12, 2007 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I was talking about what will happen when single payer is in place and the government tries to crack down on excessive use of healthcare, remember? One reason that I am somewhat skeptical that single payer will achieve the spectacular savings promised any time soon.
April 12, 2007 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you, Robert. Kozmik thinks that all you have to do to win hearts and minds is to be right and prove that you're right. That kind of thinking cost John Kerry the White House. Joe Lunchbucket doesn't care what you know, he wants to know that you care. Narrative trumps facts every time, so we need the best one we can lay our hands on.
April 13, 2007 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey! When did Joe Sixpack become Joe Lunchbucket? And anyway, I thought it was Office Park Dads that counted.
April 13, 2007 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink