New "Baker-Christopher Commission" to Probe Constitutional Power Allocations on War-Starting, War-Waging, and War-Ending
The University of Virginia's Miller Center of Public Affairs -- of which Philip Zelikow used to serve as Director before becoming Condi Rice's Counselor -- has announced the creation of a bipartisan commission that "will examine how the Constitution allocates the powers of beginning, conducting, and ending war."
Former Secretaries of State James A. Baker III and Warren Christopher will co-chair this enterprise.
Regarding non-traditional wars, the Miller Center announcement states:
When armed conflict is looming, debates about separation of powers and the uncertainty they often generate can impair relations among the branches of government, cast doubt on the legitimacy of government action, and prevent focused attention on policy. Armed conflicts with non-state actors and other non-traditional "wars," as well as the courts' involvement in war powers questions, make the Commission's work relevant.
It will be important for the Commission to deal squarely and up-front with non-traditional wars as well as the ability of the President to issue "findings" ordering covert military action, military actions that are not officially called wars but often seem worse, and conflict conducted through proxies armed, funded, and virtually commanded by the White House and Pentagon. This group, it it is to be taken seriously, needs to consider the "privatization of war" and the many players -- not just on the other side of conflict but on our own side -- that are mercenaries hired to perform military and security functions.
Traditional war is not something about which there should be much concern on the Constitutional front. What is worrisome in 21st century conflict and Constitutional legitimacy are all the gray areas that have emerged and which power centers are exploiting.
On the Commission will be:
Former Secretary of State James A. Baker III co-chairFormer Secretary of State Warren Christopher co-chair
Former U.S. Senator Slade Gorton
Former Member of Congress Lee Hamilton
Former US Trade Representative Carla Hills
Former Secretary of the Army John O. Marsh Jr.
Former US Attorney General Edwin Meese III
Former Chief Judge of the US Court of Appeals Abner Mikva
Former Commander-in-Chief of the US Atlantic Fleet J. Paul Reason
Former National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft
Woodrow Wilson School/Princeton University Dean Anne-Marie Slaughter
Brookings Institution President Strobe Talbott
Doris Kearns Goodwin will serve as "historical adviser" to the Baker-Christopher Commission, and Andrew Dubill, Juliana Bush, and W. Taylor Reveley IV will staff the project.
I had the pleasure of participating in a small dinner hosted by the Stanley Foundation on Monday evening with featured speaker Philip Zelikow, who offered a fascinating talk about the limits and opportunities of deployed force and power in today's world. I get the sense from his speech, which I may write about another time, that Zelikow is crafting a major article informed by his experience as one of the key players in the Bush administration's national security bureaucracy on what works and what doesn't when it comes to state-building, wars, and transnational institution building.
As a friendly nudge to the project, i think that the Baker-Christopher Commission is making a mistake by not inviting Zelikow to serve as one of its members. While I don't agree with all of his views, Zelikow is one of the few power players in this G.W. Bush era who has thought deeply about America's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and how these have seriously shaken and, in some cases, confused and bewildered legal experts whose frames were guided by experience with more normal, classic wars than we are engaged in today.
Two other good resources for the Commission would be the incumbent Legal Adviser to Condi Rice, John B. Bellinger III, and the previous occupant of his job, William Howard Taft IV, who have both had to struggle with the legal mess of these wars -- and who both did battle with Cheney's staff on everything from authorizations for war and the treatment (and potential torture) of prisoners.
-- Steve Clemons is Senior Fellow and Director of the American Strategy Program at the New America Foundation and publishes the popular political blog, The Washington Note















Is there a point to this group? I misread Baker and Christopher "will co-chair" as "will co-opt" the group. Actually this is probably more correct.
What credibility do any of these people have? They have participated in a misunderstanding of global dynamics for 50 years which has led to rising unrest in much of the world and the current winding down of the American Empire.
Perhaps they are planning to rewrite history so that their mismanagement won't be as obvious.
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Daily Landscape
February 28, 2007 6:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
So once again, GWBush refuses to listen to advisors, including his dad's best friend Baker...so now we have to have a commission to publically assert what Bush has been told in private and refused to yield to.
Incredible how stubborn this idiot is. His incompetence is creating a constitutional crisis and he doesn't give a shyt about anything other than his being the 'decider' and ain't nobody gone tell him to do anything.
What a travesty this has turned out to be for the nation domestically and globally. This man is undoing a century of diplomacy and America's reputation of goodwill in the world, he starts a war openly dismissive of the UN and now wants to not just continue waging a war but he is so bound and determined to take us into another war with Iran...that we are now having yet ANOTHER commission?
Not that it will do any good...he has already thumbed his nose at the advice, or we wouldn't need the commission. This is simply the way for 'saner minds' to go on record, historically, as opposing the ridiculous tyranny of GW Bush.
This commission is nothing but a MEGA RED LIGHT of all the different areas of government and military Bush refuses to listen to ...we have represented the Senate, Congress, Army, Navy as well as National Security and just about every darn tier of govenment expertise he ignored.
They are telling us that short of impeachment, no one has found a way to get through to this President...he is worse than NIxon.
History will reflect both this Commission and the Iraq Study Group as major rebuttals and strenuous disagreement with the constitutional execution of presidential power in conducting war, waging war and ending war.
Just astonishing.
February 28, 2007 6:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
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February 28, 2007 9:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree wholeheartdly with rdf's major point that there is absolutely no reason for this group with this membership, at least for anything that counts.
But I'd like to go a little bit further and say that its not just useless, farcical--there are all sorts of other great adjectives we could use--but that in fact, it is dangerous and only reinforces the whole corrupt system that government has become, at least since Reagan, if not before.
Not one of these people has ever seemingly noticed that this emporer not only has no clothes on, he's a drooling idiot! But its even worse, because Bushco is systematically subverting everything that is good about who we have always believed we are. Even the New York Times has started to at least talk about it on their editorial page.
We need a national commission all right, but it needs to be headed by Chalmers Johnson, Jonathan Turley or someone else who has demonstrated that they actually, first, understand who the founding fathers said we were as a people when they founded a democratic republic, and second, that they still believe in that.
Who are we, really?
Bushco delenda est
February 28, 2007 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sort of like a Constitutional Convention, except without any actual representation of the citizenry. Cool.
sPh
February 28, 2007 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
So they're going to decide how the Constitution allocates the powers of beginning, conducting and ending a war are they. Well, that's nice but they'd better begin by popping out the dictionary and looking up 'war' 'win' and 'lose'.
As Peter Pace said the other day about Iraq how do you fight in a country you're not at war with. Since WWII the so-called "wars" we've engaged in involved sending our military machine to foreign countries to kick out somebody or to keep somebody out or to settle internal strife. Were they wars? Would the Constitution even apply to them. A strict-constructionist would probably say when the framers referred to war they thought of it as between our country and a foreign country or countries, so what's been going on these last 60 years is not a "Constitutional" issue. Chances are the next 60 years will witness the same kinds of actions, not wars, and it's those we'd better figure out how to deal with. That would be the job of Congress.
(Speaking of the Constitution, Pedilla is now being granted a US trial because the Supremes challenged his status as an enemy combatant. The guy is now stark-raving mad thanks to his torturers and his lawyers intend to lay out in court just exactly how he was driven stark-raving crazy. What's really being put on trial are the methods US interrogators have used since 9/11 to break prisoners. Now that IS a Constitutional issue - given "cruel and unusual punishment.")
As stated, it's hard to see the justification for yet another Commission.
February 28, 2007 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pardon us for yawning, I know it's insulting, but that there is any question to be discussed insults the People.
I'll save the panel some time, and give them their conclusions, already packaged:
A war is whatever Congress decides is one. The funding for anything is only available if authorized by Congress. Without funding, an activity must stop (see Iran-Contra). If it does not stop, Congess can impeach. If the impeached executive ignores this, it is a coup, and all bets are off.
Short version--Congress is the final arbiter of every question, end of story.
February 28, 2007 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I can't wait to have Ed Meese speak for me - NOT!
Tom
February 28, 2007 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's really being put on trial are the methods US interrogators have used since 9/11 to break prisoners. Now that IS a Constitutional issue - given "cruel and unusual punishment.")
Absolutely shocking. What a travesty and miscarriage of justice. Who would have beleived that our country would detain a US citizen without charge, in solitary confinement, and torture them for 4 years. Just astonishing. Makes me want to puke, it is so frightening. If Guiliani wins, it will only get worse.
We need an executive in the WH with Constitutional Law expertise.
March 1, 2007 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Correction: The Congress is not the final arbiter of every question. The powers of Congress are defined and limited by the Constitution. Therefore, the Constitution is the final arbiter of every question, including which branch of government gets to be the specific arbiter in any given case.
There is one question that the committee should answer: Does the War Powers Resolution of 1973 sidestep the constitutional declaration of war, or become a substitute for it?
March 3, 2007 10:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very interesting. The youngest persons on this Commission are Anne-Marie Slaughter and Strobe Talbott, both boomers like me. Most of the rest are as old or older than my parents. Don't you think they could have included a couple of younger people? After all, it is the younger generations who will be the fighters and deciders of future wars.
March 3, 2007 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
"... the Constitution is the final arbiter of every question..." Unfortunately, this has not been true in Bushworld, so far.
Tom
March 4, 2007 5:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, but since authority of even Supreme Court justices is subject to Congressional impeachment, Congress could overrule anything it chose. Thus Gerry Ford could say an impeachable offense is whatever Congress decides is one. The two houses were considered closest to the public's sentiment, and are together the most powerful branch, if they choose to exercise that power.
This is tempered by the fact that if Congress goes too far, the executive branch, (meaning all its personnel, not just the elected officials), might not cooperate.
The Constitution is of course words, not people, and must be implemented by those people in office. That the Court decides the interpretation was not settled until Marbury, and it is irrelevant when another branch simply ignores it, as Jackson did. The executive can ignore Congress, but if Congress removes authority through impeachment or de-funding, the executive risks revolution if it does not cooperate.
Seems pretty obvious that Congress is the heart and soul of the government, when you see that the Constitution lists many Powers for it in the 1st Article, essentially no absolute Powers for the President, and only that of jurisdiction for the Court, for cases arising under the Constitution.
March 4, 2007 8:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why is it that none of these individuals named for the Miller Center Baker-Christopher commission appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee last month? Or at the very minimum placed their professional opinions in the record with the Senate Committee?
If they really wish to be heard, they could have contacted the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Russ Feingold, and gone on official record with their individual opinions in the Senate.
Take a little time and read through John Dean's article from FindLaw dated Feb. 09, 2007.
Dean writes about the recent Senate Judiciary Committee hearing chaired by Senator Russ Feingold: Exercising Congress’s Constitutional Power to End a War. The main thrust: "Not what Congress should do, but what can Congress do."
And Edward Kennedy's primary thrust on the committee deals with legal restrictions that might be placed on the president's going to war in Iran.
Here is Senator Fiengold's opening statement in full.
Here is Orrin Hatch's official statement.
Please note: The full written testimony of the following experts are linked through their names.Statements of Constitutional Experts
Again: Read John Deans article.~OGD~
March 5, 2007 7:32 AM | Reply | Permalink