The Plame affair has all the hallmarks of a dark comedy. Danny Divito as Scooter Libby. Rhea Perlman as Mary Matalin. Who would play Dick Cheney? Jason Alexander would have to stretch. What about Valerie Plame? Joe Wilson? Remember we have to pick good serious actors with comic chops.

Ron Byers

"Off the record, on the QT, and very hush-hush" is the quote.

How about "Oh, lookee here, the great jerk off case of 1953"?

Assuming Joe Wilson is going to be the good guy, I'd be OK with Tom Hanks. As for Valerie Plame, that's no problem ... the Hollywood machine stops sending scripts to actresses just about the time they have really mastered their craft because they are "too old to play the younger woman, too young to play her mother". There'll always be some great actresses available to play Plame.

the crazy old mean doctor from Scrubs was born to play Rumsfeld.

For Ms Plame... My first thoughts were Meryl Streep or Glenn Close, but maybe that's because I stopped seeing first run movies over ten years ago.
Laure Linney? Laura Dern?

IT's already been said that Harriet Harris--Frasier's agent BeBe--is an almost double of Judith Miller, but she's also got a nasal-voiced perma-sneer that would make her perfect to play Mary Matalin.

Nicholson can play Cheney. Bleach what's left of his hair, mess up his teeth,  and you're there.

Re ScooterLibby.com and the Libby Legal Defense Trust - When I first came across the site several months ago, I was taken aback to think that anyone would consider a character reference from Mary Matalin to be anything other than an indictment of one's integrity.

Libby and Matalin and the rest of the White House Iraq Group pushed a pack of lies on their fellow Americans to sell a bullshit war. Hello? Everyone remember "mushroom clouds"? That's the kind of crap generated by Libby and Matalin.

All Fitzgerald has to do to undermine Libby's credibility is describe what Libby did for a living between August 2002 and March 2003. The jury can take it from there.

Libby's defense to the charge of lying is that he didn't lie, but just forgot, which is an obvious lie. I would expect the jury to notice that small fact.

Correctamundo, Dave. And don't forget:  hair by Toro.  :D

Larry, you said, "...Scooter had no time to worry about the Wilson's exposing the Bush lies...".

How did the Wilson's (Plural) expose the Bush lies that Scooter would have been worried about at the time in question. Are you claiming that both Wilsons were actively exposing these so called lies? And most of all, what "lies" are you refering to, Larry?

This is like a copy machine, where you take a Lie by Wilson, then you put it in the "Drive by" medias copy machine and you make a copy of a copy of a copy until the original is so distorted, no one remembers that Wilson is the poster boy of a lying, partisan hatchet job for the Kerry campaign which is who he worked for.

Go ahead, repeat the lie over and over. Someone is bound to believe it, Larry.

Are you suggesting that Dick Cheney is not yet dead?

TJ KING said "no one remembers that Wilson is the poster boy of a lying, partisan hatchet job for the Kerry campaign which is who he worked for."

From CNN online today on former NYT reporter Judith Miller's testimony:
Judith Miller said that Libby brought identified Valerie Plame Wilson on June 23, 2003. Miller said she and Libby also discussed Plame on July 8, 2003.
Libby told investigators he learned her identity from "Meet the Press" moderator Tim Russert on July 10, 2003.
Plame's name and occupation were made public in a column by Robert Novak on July 14, 2003.

David Schuster on Hardball today verified to Chris Mathews that Judith Miller said she was told by Libby that VP Cheney made the inquiry about the yellowcake to the CIA.
So it seems that Libby didn't get Plame's name from Tim Russert, and that Wilson was correct in stating that Cheney was the initiator of the inquiry. The CIA later had the uranium line stripped from a State Of The Union address in 2002, because it was not factual.

your play

Saddam Hussein had sent officials to Niger and they had sought to acquire Yellow Cake. I don't know where you have been for the last few years. Even Joe Wilson's debriefing in his home with his wife present conveyed that he believed they had sought Yellow cake. To this day that has not been disputed. Wilson claimed at the time of the OP/ED that the documents refering to the British had been in his possession, when in actuality they had not even been created. When he was pressured later in an interview, which almost never happens, he grumbled and admitted that that was not a true statement.

Your statement that he had debunked the President, again, thats not true, because he had conveyed that they "had sought" yellowcake.

Furthermore, Larry's own timeline on these events are not in agreement with Wilson's lies. Wilson claims that Alan Foley was not her boss, and Larry portrays him as not only being boss, but requesting information about her husband. The denial that Mrs. Wilson and Foley even knew each other is just a lie.

Foley, Plame, McGovern, and Joe Wilson have all been exposed as partisan hacks. Your assertion that she lost her job is also false. She retired.

Virtually every one of the statements you made are false. Even your referring to grammar shows your is a misrepresentation. I was not referring to his use of the possessive, I was referring to the fact that he was mentioning "the Wilsons'" plural not for grammatical reasons, but for the fact that he is referring to them as a couple as debunking the president through his op-ed. This freudian slip shows what we all know, Wilson and Plame outted themselves.

If she played a part in debunking the President, she broke the law. He may as well have worn a rainbow afro and waved a banner int the endzone of RFK stadium. 3 months before his OP-ED he attended an anti-bush panel discussion with his wife constantly by his side introduced her as his wife and introduced her to Walter Pincus.

She listed her front company as her address on democratic political donations. Judith Miller, Andrea Mitchell, and a whole slew of others knew. The Wilsons did a lousy job of covering her identity and the ultimate joke is, if you want to keep a low profile, you don't put your self on frontpage news, full of lies directed at a president for a CIA mission, when it is obvious people are going to be asking why Mr. Mom went to Africa? That would be like Linda Tripp being married to Ken Starr and expecting the media not to find out.

Virtually all the reporters this week have admitted that all of Washington was scrambling to find out who he was and why he of all people would have gone and why he was capable of writing such a piece if he did or did not have a non disclosure statement. Most of these reporters have also been caught in lies as well. Judith Miller today was caught making statements that conflict with her Grand Jury testimony. That was the big news of today's testimony. Why isn't she being indicted for faulty memory like Libby? Speaking of Ken Starr, I remember the left repeating ad nauseum, that perjury is not really a crime any more, and its like jaywalking or a double parking, everyone does it.

If you think he is such a respectable diplomat, then I guess you also consider his recollection of April Glaspie's meeting with Saddam Hussein as "not a green light or even a yellow light" as a valid refutation of the left's longtime conspiracy theory that Bush 41 caused the invasion of Kuwait.

You just proved my original contention that you hear a lie, based on a rumor, based on a copy of a lie, and then you repeat it as the truth.

It amazes me that you are capable of producing a post where every sentence you typed is false. Them's just the facts, Chuckie!!

Bring 'Em On TJ!

Of course Bush never lies about nuthin'. No spin or politics either, 100% business. Look at all he has done for..... He is just a straight talkin' democracy spreadin' killer of evildoers.

Good thing we have such an honest guy like Bush as President and not Wilson. If we had listened to the likes of Wilson then we wouldn't have needed to start a $500 billion war and get 3,000 plus troops killed to find out Iraq did not any WMD or nuke programs. 

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You tell 'em! Wilson is the same guy who told everyone that the first President Bush wrote a nice letter to Saddam in 1990, giving Saddam the green light to invade Kuwait after Saddam met with April Glaspie.

Joe Wilson just can't keep his mouth shut!

I meant Fleischer's testimony.

If Libby can be tainted by his association with Marc Rich, then Judith Miller's credibility will be a hundred times more tainted when it is learned that her Attorney, Robert Bennett, defended the man that sprung Marc Rich from Jail,...Bill Clinton.

Washington is a small world made even smaller by the prevalence of lawyers.

It is true he can't keep his mouth shut to his own detriment, but I was referring to the fact that he attended the meeting with Glaspie and claimed as Tariq Aziz confirmed, that there was no green light. Wilson said there was not even a yellow light. Wilson says the meeting was a clear warning to Sadam delivered on behalf of Secretary Baker.

Thanks, can you please expand on that or link it.

Um...okay. Nice chatting with you.

At this point it is Isikoff reporting in Newsweek. The relevant para:

As Fleischer related the story to the jury, Libby told him: “The vice president did not send Mr. Wilson. Ambassador Wilson was sent by his wife. She works for the CIA.” Libby then told him which part of the CIA employed her. “He said his wife works at the Counter-Proliferation Division. I think he told me her name,” Fleischer testified. Libby added: “This is hush-hush, this is on the Q.T. Not very many people know about this.”

Isikoff also says the public NIE that was released implied there were no doubters about the Uranium. Libby told Miller that that classified NIE was even stronger than the public document. In truth, the classified NIE contained dissents about the uranium and Iraq amassing nuclear weapons from the Energy Dept, Air Force, and the State Dept that were not in the public version released prior to the Iraq War. Isikoff ends an audio report on the Newsweek website saying a question exists as to whether the administration suppressed information.
On the MSNBC website under Hardball, the segment in which Chris Mathews says to reporter David Shuster that he was shook to learn that Libby told Miller that it was VP Cheney's inquiry about Uranium led to Joe Wison's trip is available. Shuster verifies that this is what Miller said.

Thanks for the elaboration. Tariq Aziz said later, that Saddam understood that Glaspie's remarks were a threat to use force veiled in the Diplomatic speak that Wilson shows he and Aziz are both well aware of. Aziz goes on to say, that they expected the US would arrange a military response, but expected a light force and that their forces of 100s of thousands could withstand it long enough to sue for a diplomatic solution that over time they would bend to their benefit. Aziz was voicing the general perception of US foreign policy in the region to this day, even after sanctions, two wars separated by a simmering aerial blockade and Clinton's bombing campaigns. That perception is that American will can not last long, so hunker down and wait them out. Eventually they will cut and run.

Taking Mr. Aziz's perspective into consideration, Americans laughed at the time at the phrase "mother of all battles". No One is laughing now.

What are you some kind of a Junior high Grammar teacher? We already checkmated you over your litany of falsehoods and all you could fall back on was misplaced apostrophies or something.

It is clear when I say Wilson being one person and "others" we are refering to multiple people, class. When we say "have implied or stated openly", either one of these verbs can relate to multiple individuals in the group, class. Is that clear kids?

The first paragraph proves that you are aware of Wilson's deception and your last paragraph proves that you are also aware that if Wilson states that Cheney ordered the mission and Wolf Blitzer and every one else in America thinks he means ordered him to go on a trip to Africa and was aware of the trip and the return and the debriefing and so on, that for you to say a note in the margin of a report implies Cheney was following Wilson's every move is as much a smoke screen as Wilson's huge steaming pile.

If you can't handle a debate, keep your grammar lessons to yourself. It makes you look pretty sad.

I'm not sure what point you are making about your first statement. The quote that you pulled from my post has, in quotes, your words regarding Wilson. I should have noted the all caps for emphasis, but that is the part where you mention Wilson and is the part I was taking exception to. You said she proved Wilson was correct etc I was trying to say she did not prove he was correct and that I do not believe he is correct. Is that what you are referring to?

Your second paragraph makes sense but sounds like exculpatory remarks for Libby's defense, but its true, that it is up to the jury. We will see what they want to decide for their 15 minutes of fame. Ruling against a who's who of the mainstream media is quite intimidating I'm sure.

As always, thanks for your detailed links and response.

If you would read the previous posts that you swore you wouldn't read you would see an example and I can show you more. In response to Blitzer's previous question regarding whether it was Plame's office of CPD or the VP, "Who sent him?"

Here was Wilson's response:
"...
What they did, what the office of the vice president did, and, in fact, I believe now from Mr. Libby's statement, it was probably the vice president himself...
..."

This is just another example of his reckless remarks about Frog marching Rove out of the White House in hand cuffs. Unfortunate for him, the facts have later made him out to be a liar and a showboater that is conspicuous even by Washington's standards.

So there is the example you asked for. You want more?

And regarding your final paragraph, "...he said that Saddam Hussein had reconstituted nuclear weapons?.." Is this your misinterpretation of the 16 words again?

Again, if the restaurant manager asks the bartender why he's making the martini, and he says, "cause that guy at table six wants it", instead of "Marie the cocktail waitress asked me to make it", what's the fucking difference? The CIA sent Wilson to Niger in response to Cheney's request. You may be too thick to understand that, but few other people are. Valerie Plame had nothing to do with her husband's trip, other than the CIA asking her to ask him to come in for a meeting. Given Blitzer's clumsy framing of the question (in response to the weird Dick Cheney/ Chris Matthews attempts to frame this trip as a "junket") how else was Wilson supposed to respond?

As for Cheney's lies about Saddam's nuclear weapons, I was referring to Cheney's appearance on MTP, which, Iike Rice's nonsense about "the smoking gun being a mushroom cloud", the the "sixteen words", was a lot of dishonest hype meant to gin up sentiment for the war. We could also talk, in that regard, about Bush, Rice and Cheney's repeated assertions, as late as the fall of 2004 (you know, before the election) that Saddam was involved in 9/11.

Hello Hello!

Dear apologist for the scumbag.

The answer here may be provided, although that's BlueinColorado's call, once you reply to that which you asked for 2 hours earlier...

~OGD~

I posted a transcript of the 7/25/90 Saddam-Glaspie meeting here in the TPM Cafe. Following it is a 9/19/90 NYT story by Flora Lewis about the invasion of Kuwait that you might find interesting. I also posted a transcript of the 4/12/90 meeting between Saddam and Senators Dole, Simpson, McClure, Metzenbaum and Murkowski.

I don't see the "veiled threat" from Glaspie but Tariq Aziz knows better than I do what Saddam thought. I admit I don't have very much regard for James A. Baker so I am quite happy to believe that he set up Saddam on the invasion of Kuwait.

BTW, all Baker says in his recent bio about the invasion itself is that it is "difficult" to know why Saddam invaded Kuwait which is just so much baloney.

It is known that Cheney made several trips to the CIA to put pressure on for the answers he wanted about WMD. He asked to find out about the Yellow Cake, and the CIA sent Wilson. If Cheney didn't know contemporaneously that Wilson was there, what does that have to do with anything? It certainly doesn't make Wilson a liar.

I doubt very seriously that Cheney's daily agenda contains all the people and agencies that are on a mission to get information he has asked for. I'm sure he was disappointed to find out that Wilson refuted the Yellow Cake claims, but rather than listening to yet another voice which disagreed with the warpath he was on, he chose to shoot Wilson (via Valerie) in the face!

Jan Knaus

Simply ask who benefited from selecting Wilson? Given that he had both expertise and connections in the geographic area and previous Iraq experience he was a good choice, with other assets tied up by other WH directives. So his selection was to the good favor of the CIA and the OVP.

After he went publc, who benefited from his smearing was again the WH. We could, I suppose assume a right-wing conspiracy on the part of the reporters that were asking about him, and who persisted sufficiently to expose Plame. Since conservatives assume the opposite, so will I for now, therefore reporters are not conservative but liberal and would prefer to hurt the White House. In that case, why would they try to hurt Wilson?

Funny. The Vice President comes to CIA and Foley, McGovern and all these partisan Hacks cry, "He scares me!!", "He came here to intimidate us".

John Bolton who worked on a daily basis with Plame Boss, Alan Foley, is nominated to the UN, and the Main Stream Media crys out, "He intimidates people", "He scares people". Porter Goss nominated to CIA boss, "He is scaring us", "He came in and Diss'ed us".

What a bunch of crybaby wussies. Do you think Wild Bill Donovan or former CIA Director Bill Casey would cry like little school girls if the VP came to visit. This only bolsters the image that they view the Chief executive as meddling in their private club. Is it any wonder 911 intelligence gets botched and people die.

Your final paragraph is so wrong on so many levels. Wilson's report did not debunk anything. Wilson said that IRAQ HAD SOUGHT YELLOWCAKE.

The entire basis for his going public has been a total farce based on a lie.

But, but, but,but....Clinton!

Whenever I wonder how this administration manages to use its first biggest failure (911) as a tool to get its second biggest failure (Iraq war)under way, I must remember people like the kingtroll above who blames it on the CIA!

It would be funny if so many people weren't dead because of the sociopaths in the Bush administration, and their enablers.

Jan Knaus

Maybe you never actually read what Wilson said.  You know, when he debunked the YellowCake rumor.  I would love to put the whole thing in here, but this is probably enough:

The next morning, I met with Ambassador Owens-Kirkpatrick at the embassy. For reasons that are understandable, the embassy staff has always kept a close eye on Niger's uranium business. I was not surprised, then, when the ambassador told me that she knew about the allegations of uranium sales to Iraq — and that she felt she had already debunked them in her reports to Washington. Nevertheless, she and I agreed that my time would be best spent interviewing people who had been in government when the deal supposedly took place, which was before her arrival.

I spent the next eight days drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people: current government officials, former government officials, people associated with the country's uranium business. It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place.

 Here is a link.  You should read the whole thing, though, since it must be your first time.  Go educate yourself: 

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm

 After you read it, if you can repeat this:

Wilson's report did not debunk anything. Wilson said that IRAQ HAD SOUGHT YELLOWCAKE.

...then I guess you're just a liar. 

Jan Knaus

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." GWB SOTU 2003

Did you see the word "sought"? Yes,...OK good.

OK, Did you see the word "acquired? or "Sales" or "transaction"? No? OK, then we have established something here to start with regarding the 16 words.

I have read Wilson's Poseur on parade 15 minutes of masturbation. It is maybe the most laughable nugget of non-news ever trotted out by the left.

This might be hard for some to accept, but Wilson himself, has said that Iraq...Sought (that word the GWB used)...Yellowcake.

One more time. Wilson's own statement agrees with the 16 words. Iraq SOUGHT Yellowcake. The President did not state in the 16 words that Saddam is buying Yellowcake. Wilson did not believe Iraq bought Yellowcake, although he did believe they had WMDs. Wilson stated Iraq sought yellowcake.

Clifford May writes:

"...
The British have consistently stood by that conclusion. In September 2003, an independent British parliamentary committee looked into the matter and determined that the claim made by British intelligence was "reasonable" (the media forgot to cover that one too). Indeed, Britain's spies stand by their claim to this day. Interestingly, French intelligence also reported an Iraqi attempt to procure uranium from Niger..."

According to the FT:

"European intelligence officers have now revealed that three years before the fake documents became public, human and electronic intelligence sources from a number of countries picked up repeated discussion of an illicit trade in uranium from Niger. One of the customers discussed by the traders was Iraq."

Susan Schmidt of WAPO relates how the Wilson instigated Senate Intelligence Hearing report was clearly critical of Wilson's Misrepresentations(Lies):

"... The report also said Wilson provided misleading information to The Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because "the dates were wrong and the names were wrong."

"Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the 'dates were wrong and the names were wrong' when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports," the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have "misspoken" to reporters. The documents -- purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq -- were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger.

Wilson's reports to the CIA added to the evidence that Iraq may have tried to buy uranium in Niger, although officials at the State Department remained highly skeptical, the report said.

Wilson said that a former prime minister of Niger, Ibrahim Assane Mayaki, was unaware of any sales contract with Iraq, but said that in June 1999 a businessman approached him, insisting that he meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss "expanding commercial relations" between Niger and Iraq -- which Mayaki interpreted to mean they wanted to discuss yellowcake sales. A report CIA officials drafted after debriefing Wilson said that "although the meeting took place, Mayaki let the matter drop due to UN sanctions on Iraq."

According to the former Niger mining minister, Wilson told his CIA contacts, Iraq tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1998.

Still, it was the CIA that bore the brunt of the criticism of the Niger intelligence. The panel found that the CIA has not fully investigated possible efforts by Iraq to buy uranium in Niger to this day, citing reports from a foreign service and the U.S. Navy about uranium from Niger destined for Iraq and stored in a warehouse in Benin...."

But that's not all. The Butler report, yet another British government inquiry, also concluded that British intelligence was correct to say that Saddam sought uranium from Niger.

So He misled the Post. His Niger contacts say Wilson reported to the CIA an attempt to buy 400 tons. The CIA debriefers agree that Wilson told them about this effort by Iraq and put it in their summary report. The Senate Report goes on to criticize Plame's bosses for a botched mission, because incompetent Wilson failed to fully investigate other leads.

So what they are saying is Wilson, his wife and her boss are the ones that are taking preconceived partisan notions and trying to squeeze their intelligence to fit into it.

So Several British agencies, and the US government and even the French all agree with Nigerian minister Mayiki and the Sainted Joe Wilson, that Iraq sought Yellow cake.

....But...you, Jan? You still don't get it.

The President was right. Wilson was wrong. Bush told the Truth. Wilson lied. This whole Fitzmas charade has been a witch hunt and a fishing expedition and with the willing cooperation of your friends in the media, its been a well played pack of lies. But the game is over Jan. It can't be defended anymore by intelligent people.

Here is your final stab from the grave...

"...After you read it, if you can repeat this:

Wilson's report did not debunk anything. Wilson said that IRAQ HAD SOUGHT YELLOWCAKE.

...then I guess you're just a liar..."

OK, here goes, I'll repeat it...Wilson's report did not debunk anything. Wilson said that IRAQ HAD SOUGHT YELLOWCAKE.

There I said it. Those are the facts, Jan.

You would not recognize a fact if it came and bit you in the ass. That is a compliment, actually, because the only other possibility is that you are as big a liar as our "fearful leader."

I think your secret point is that Saddam lusted after yellow-cake but he didn't get any, so if he even sent an email seeking the stuff, Bush was right and everyone else was wrong. Even THAT is not what Wilson said, and if you had any honesty you would admit it, collect your troll salary for the week and go home.

Or is this your point:

To quote what the British actually did say when you know it is not true in order to justify a path to war, IS STILL LYING. Just because you can later say, "Well, the Brits DID say that," is a sophomoric way to try to get away with lying.

EG.

Parent to teenager: "Mr. Smith called and said he saw you smoking cigarettes behind the gas station!"

Teenager to parent: "No way! Mr. Science teacher wanted me to stay late after school to work on that experiment."

Parent to teenager: "Wow, what a relief!

Of course the teenager DID NOT stay after school, as asked, and DID smoke behind the gas station, but his actual statement was true because the teacher did ask him to stay:

Meet George Bush -- the never ending teenager, and TJ, you're right there with him. Congratulations. What an honor.

Jan Knaus

Given a sufficient amount of Defense cross-examination, there are no doubt lots of people who would be reluctant to say under oath that the sky is blue.

If I were on the Jury, I would give greater credence to what she had written at the time.

-Dave Adams-

Point?

Are you even aware what topic this is? Colin Powell was the first person to find out about the Leak from his assistant Armitage and he told him to keep his mouth shut, rather than tell his boss. The President's loyal soldier.

Tenet was the head of the CIA whose department's pranks had started the whole thing. I'm surprised he didn't say he wished he'd never been born at that point. This whole thing makes Foggy bottom look like the Symbianese liberation army meets Dean Wormer.

Why don't you put a quote in there from Armitage as well stating his opinion regarding the 16 words.

It is your position that Colin Powell, while Secretary of State, lied about the 16 words and that no one else in the White House contradicted him????

Directly from the lips of the apologist of the scumbags:

"....using weasel words and political speak to be ambiguous as possible on the matter to make it sound like whatever the person listening can draw their own conclusion."

Are you refering to Fleischer, the witness for the prosecution?

I am not here saying that every Republican is perfect. I am admitting that when this thing blew up, there were a lot of Reporters and moderate Republicans, like Powell, that were playing CYA not because the truth of the charge, but because of the campaign year Media storm that was coming their way regarding this issue.

You are making my point though. When they did cry foul, the Vice President's chief of staff was arrested for it. With that in mind, You are telling me there was no disincentive to go to the airwaves as opposed to offering to cooperate with the investigation and wait for it to be exposed as a fraud. I think that was a mistake to go along with Fitz, I think they should have told the WHOLE truth from the beginning and if they had followed protocol and had a non-disclosure statement from him they would have arrested Wilson and lock him in Supermax forever.

Finally, were you stating that the White house was admitting that the 16 words were bogus when they knew that they were not (which is factual, they were not bogus, we all know that now). Or are you alleging the false premise that they were admitting what you mistakenly believe to be true and that is that the 16 words are bogus?

I will answer your question the moment the CIA and I can decrypt it. It will probably take a while.

You are making my point though.

No, KJ is not making your point. No one can make your point because your point is absurd.

When they did cry foul, the Vice President's chief of staff was arrested for it.

Right. That is why Libby got arrested. Not for lying to an FBI agent who was investigating the purposeful outing of a covert CIA agent (who was working on WMD's, no less) because she was married to someone who blew the whistle on the lies that took us to war...and then lying again to the Grand Jury. Now, WHY did you say Libby was arrested? Because the administration called "foul?" No, it is more like because this administration IS foul, from top to bottom.

I know you don't agree that they lied; I guess you think Saddam really DID have WMD's and was ready to lob them our way (cue in mushroom cloud), and that the best way for our country to deal with that was to kick the MEN WHO WERE LOOKING FOR THE WEAPONS out of Iraq so we could start a "shock and awe war." Gee, what a convincing argument! Wonder why it isn't getting any traction here.

Jan Knaus