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The Mile High Convention
Well, thank Howard Dean, and I bet Senator Clinton, for making sure we didn't mess up that convention venue issue. Our nominee will be celebrated in Mountain Time and we will have a strategy focussed on Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, and even (watch out John) Arizona. My land, this will be grand: call us America's party!
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Why do you say Clinton?
This, from the Daily News, via Gothamist:
I'm curious if anyone has seen something different?
Dissent Protects Democracy.
January 12, 2007 5:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't imagine that Hillary would support the convention being held in a fly-over state.
January 12, 2007 6:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seeing as she has to win those states to be President, that seems highly doubtful.
January 12, 2007 8:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I would have thought that she might favor NYC. Of course, then all we would hear about would be the '92 convention all over again, since it was also in NYC and nominated Bill.
January 12, 2007 8:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Will they actually go through with it? Demver was awarded the 1972 Winter Olympics but pulled out later.
January 12, 2007 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Denver seems like a good choice: it's in a state that has shown blue-ish trends in a part of the the country that is growing rapidly and is increasingly critical to Presidential politics and it IS flyover country (Democrats care about more of the U.S. than Hollywood and NYC). Plus John and Teresa can always be banished to Aspen to keep them from mucking things up. A winner all-around.
January 12, 2007 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
As an avid hiker, I can only applaud (not that there is anything wrong with Catskills).
The show of pushing into Mountain states will be probably well received everywhere: everybody likes the images of open ranges, big sky etc., as opposed to villification of coastal liberals or southern rednecks (however unjustified they may be).
I can also picture Democratic nominee (especially if female) hauling to Denver a carcass of some big game animal from a fresh kill in some nearby forest, and making a trial run (however brief) in a rodeo.
On edit: about the carcass --- perhaps some big fish will do.
January 12, 2007 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no articles to share, but in my opinion, this is a win-win for Clinton. She pushed for it and will get kudos for that. And Dean was very gracious to NYC, so he didn't offend anyone. Also, NYC just had a nat'l convention so they can't feel too slighted, and conventions in NYC can be a nightmare.
I think Denver is an excellent choice. Our semi-red relatives in CO are seriously sick of the GOP. This will give the mountain states some sense of inclusion in metropolitan politics, and I think environmental issues could take a big front seat as well.
And August in NYC vs. August in Denver? No contest.
Not to show my complete prejudice, but I think Howard Dean is brilliant.
January 12, 2007 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a life-long Dem living in northern NY state, this feels right to me. As for Senator Clinton, she doesn't need to worry about carrying NY & the Northeast in general, should she be nominated (& I'm not saying she should be). I think the choice of Denver sends the right political message to follow on re3cent gains by Dems in the mountain West.
January 12, 2007 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The visuals of the Mile High city and gorgeous surroundings will also be beneficial. Denver represents the modern urban West and her history is a part of a national mythology that is uniquely American and progressive.
Enough already with the tired East Coast and CA, which Truman Capote accurately described as "west of the West".
January 12, 2007 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a New York senator, she has to "push" for the convention, but I didn't sense any kind of urgency or threat on her part. New York doesn't provide any political advantage, the dramatic backdrop of the Rockies will be much better for the voters she's trying to court, and if a big NYC Democrat has a few dollars burning a hole in his pocket, she'd prefer that they go to her rather than to pay for streamers and security at Madison Square Garden.
For that matter, I don't even think New York City fought tooth and nail for it. The city feels obligated to make a run at every convention, just as the Yankees try to win the World Series every year. Once a decade is enough and the GOP was here in 2004.
It takes a tremendous amount of private fundraising to mount a convention, and, at this point, Bloomberg would also rather hit those donors up for other things. New York hotels are full during the summer anyway, and without all of the security and logistics headaches.
January 13, 2007 7:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I guess there's no ruggedness or individualism in California, and certainly no cutting edge policies.
January 13, 2007 9:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's another reason why Denver makes a good choice. The city has undertaken a series of initiatives which, properly highlighted by those planning the Convention, would serve demonstration of issues which the Democratic Party should emphasize in its campaign. For example, Denver is undertaking major environmental initiatives.
Additionally, Denver governmental agencies working in partnership with the Homebuilders Association are promoting a green building campaign.
And one last example: The Denver Regional Transit District is investing heavily in a variety of transit projects which should both reduce congestion and make a contribution to reducing dependency on foreign oil.
There will be many photo opportunities to highlight these and other local initiatives which represent the difference between Democratic action and Republican inaction.
aMike
January 13, 2007 9:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a native of CA and live in a "rugged" area. It's all about the negative image.
January 13, 2007 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just make sure your "grand strategy" doesn't forget Florida, Missouri, Iowa and Arkansas. (The rest of the South -- including West Virginia -- can go fly a kite. That's even if Edwards gets nominated -- he could make a token effort in North Carolina for pure appearance's sake, but he has no hope of carrying it and he doesn't need it.)
January 13, 2007 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd reckon more than a token and less than an all out push in NC/VA, just to force the Republicans to defend all the edges of their base. But OH/KY would be a massive step to victory right there ... after all, they have broken together in every election since 1960, and no Republican has ever been elected without Ohio.
January 13, 2007 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
ummm. NO. Denver awarded the 1976 Olympics. The 1972 Olympics were always meant for Sapporo Japan. In 1972 the voters in the Denver area got to vote on whether or not Denver should actually host the Olympics and they voted "NO" because of feared damage to the environment that would be caused by building many of the facilities needed for the Olympics. The IOC then awarded the 1976 Olympics to Innsbruck, which had hosted the Olympics in 1964 and already had the facilities in place.
As there is little chance of lasting environmental damage to the Denver area from hosting a convention, I think your fears of Denver pulling out are pretty unrealistic. There's a huge difference between an Olympics and a convention.
January 13, 2007 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Understood, but why perpetuate it? California may be more developed than, say, Colorado, but it's been a staunch member of "the West" since Americans salivated over settling here in the 19th century.
January 13, 2007 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
CSCS,
I am sure Reed was being sarcastic about HRC. Do you think all the DLC'ers want to go out to Denver? Dean is in charge of building the party. It was the right decision. The Dems can confine the Repubs to the South if they play their cards right.
January 13, 2007 10:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a realist and the prospect of having to deal with endless media/pundits/political strategists/Republicans snickering about how Democrats are such a perfect fit with LA/SF/?/CA is loathsome.
Denver it is and you just know that the delegates and especially the MSM will be happy campers in the Rockies in the summertime.
January 13, 2007 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm starting to come around to the view that Florida is a lost cause in terms of big picture electoral votes. To me the northern part is fast becoming like Georgia or South Carolina except with islands.
Don't give up on Florida, but we need long term plans there like we have in other southern states.
January 14, 2007 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
The northern part has pretty much always been like southern GA ... the three way split between "suthun" northern FL, central FL and "Caribbean" southern FL isn't changing anytime soon.
January 14, 2007 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, but it seems the northern part's influence is spreading southward with each election.
January 15, 2007 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink