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End of the Bush Era? Political Blinders on the Left

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Josh Marshall posits that the Bush Era has quickly unraveled and come to naught; that the president is radioactive and unloved by leaders in his own party.

Marshall has then asked some of TPMCafe's coffee house addicts how this precipitous decline in Bush-brand conservatism occurred.

First of all, it hasn't -- or not to the degree implied in Marshall's comments.

Despite losing both Houses of Congress, and losing on social security reform, stem cell research, and John Bolton, this president continues to be one of the strongest-placed and strongest-willed presidents in American history.

Marshall is correct that many Republicans didn't want the President hanging out with them in the final days of the election -- and today Republicans in Congress (like John Thune) may be more motivated to get American soldiers out of Iraq than either the White House or Democrats.

Joe Biden will want to use the line, "Mr. President, this is your war," over and over again.

If Americans left Iraq tomorrow, leading Dems would lose their best punching bag. However, Bush is not out of the game and should not be underestimated. The biggest factor in Bush finally stumbling politically was the fall of Tom DeLay and the muting of the harrassment and demonization of Republican moderates who DeLay held ruthlessly in line.

It was in part the Republican Party's disregard for its own moderates that weakened them in so many places in the country and gave space for Dems to charge forward, slicing through the Republican majority by wiping out the middle -- a middle that DeLay despised anyway.

Despite the chastening of the Bush-Cheney-DeLay political machine at the polls and the fall of DeLay who was a modern day Boss Tweed, Bush's power still impresses this blogger -- mostly because his biggest threat comes from his own bad decisions and not from alternative political leadership in either party.

I salute Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, and Wesley Clark for at least articulating some real policy differences with the President. Murtha was galvanizing, but his impact and the memory of it is quickly evaporating in America's collective consciousness.

But the leading pretenders to the throne -- Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama -- thus far, are not tacking too far from White House military prescriptions for Iraq and the Middle East.

Essentially, however, there is no real leader in the Democratic Party today and no one setting a bold agenda. Yes, Nancy Pelosi has her 100 hour action plan -- but most of the items on her very good roster are easy wins.

Leading Dems will not want to homogenize too much their views in order to challenge Bush. They will want to differentiate themselves in a crowded political marketplace -- and this gives Bush the gift of continued influence and leadership across a broad swath of policy matters.

Until Dems forge a compelling alternative and sell that to the nation, Bush will remain powerful by default. Bush will also find ways to divide and conquer.

The President's advocacy of increasing the overall size of the U.S. military -- beyond our Iraq needs -- will be exactly the kind of issue that divides the Democratic caucus. No Dems that I have heard are out there asking the President what a larger military would do for the nation -- particulalry when it is clearer than ever that the solution to America's problems in the Middle East are political and diplomatic -- not military.

No Dems are out there demanding to know from the President whether he plans to roll back his tax cuts to pay for this bigger military.

Even before the next Congress has rolled into town, the President has already laid a political trap to divide Democrats -- and they will divide.

Remember former Congressman Tim Roemer's New York Times piece that Dems should just run on a "Had Enough?" campaign? When the President of the Center for National Policy is not out pushing hard on a new policy course, Republicans aren't being challenged and Dems can't take much credit for their downfall.

Bush may not be one of the smartest presidents this country has had -- but he is one of the boldest, and he loves being the "decider."

Bad decisions, boldly pursued need to be met by a campaign of better choices and ideas just as strongly propelled into the political theatre.

Until that happens -- despite Iraq, the fall of DeLay, and the President's apparent radioactivity to other Republican hopefuls -- the Bush era will last longer than many too triumphal Democratic observers now believe.

-- Steve Clemons is Senior Fellow and Director of the American Strategy Program at the New America Foundation and publishes the popular political blog, The Washington Note


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Thank you, Steve, for interjecting a note of reason into this march of triumphalism.

I don't see anything that leads me to believe the age of radical conservatism is over. In fact, the undead remain with us -- Bill Bennett, Newt Gingrich, even Tom Delay are being resurrected.

We should never forget that many of the prime movers of the mess we're in have been there, done that before. And were pardoned, rehabilitated and put back in power.

How many times has the beast been put down? The defeat of Goldwater. The impeachment of Nixon. The defeat of Bush I which brought the Reagan-Bush era to a close. Now the defeat of the Republican Congress.

Somewhere still it is stirring, "slouching toward Bethlehem..."

The gist of your argument, Steve, seems to be that Bush is more powerful than one would think despite his recent losses. But where does that power stem from? We the people are giving him that power, but why?

I think we are still fearful, not (only) of the threats of terrorists and "islamofascism", but more subconsciously of what we know is inevitably coming: the decline of the US as the sole world power. The probable "defeat" of our military in Iraq. The ascension of China as the world's dominant financial and industrial power. Peak oil and the end of the hydrocarbon based economy. Global warming. Global turmoil due to water wars.

Bush tells us what we want to hear: that it will all be OK. His MO is to undermine central government, drowning it in the bathtub, but trying to ensure that the presidency is the last of the three branches to go. He is accumulating power at the expense of the other branches: grabbing directly from the legislative branch and subsuming the judiciary by encouraging such things as mandatory sentences, and packing the courts with ideologues who themselves are opposed to "activist judges" (even as they pursue activist agendae).

His aim is to leave all three branches of government weakened, accelerating the very decline that he is reassuring us will not come. And it is exactly what we want to believe.

i don't deny for a moment that bush is still a powerful figure in many respects: that's how the american system is designed.

but i am tired of reading observers as sharp as steve write pieces that essentially assume that just because delay ran a parliamentary system for a few years, we now have parliamentary style parties.

it has never been true that the opposition party in the absence of a presidential candidate can itself forcefully articulate an opposition policy; the most that can happen is that individuals in the opposition party can do the spadework to prepare for the moment when there is a presidential candidate.

the test, in short, of the continuing power of the right wing and/or the dems ability to do something about it will not be whether the dems can somehow collectively come up with an alternative policy: it will be the presidential election of 2008.

and i think when we look ahead to that election, i'd rather be the dem candidate than the gop candidate.

now, will individual dems do enough spadework to marginalize right-wing opinion as we know it today? that's a fair question to which i don't begin to have an answer. but since republicans are asking it themselves (not all republicans, after all, are jumping up and down with joy at the escalation in iraq), i think we have some indication.

republicans weren't asking questions about supporting bush for fear of being marginalized in 2003, after all....

Steve's argument is that Bush has a firm, clear position--he's not leaving, because that means losing. If winning means increasing the force level, well, that's what has to be done.

The Democrats, for various reasons, will not develop a coherent position that can be contrasted with Bush's position. Reid's inability to simply say that he opposes an escalation is an illustration. The successful introduction of the "surge" narrative, even to the point that Frederick Kagan talks about a "surge" that lasts for a year or two is an illustration of how well the Republicans can control narrative.

There are going to be forces pulling in both directions. Hillary wants to appear sober and committed to American security, and decides the way to do this is to not express opposition. There are political arguments to do as Reid did--if the president wants to embrace this particular tar baby, then let him do so. There are also political arguments for staking out a strong anti-war position. After the escalation fails, the elected official will be able to take a moral high ground position. But there is no way that the Democrats are going to come together on a single approach.

That does give Bush a certain kind of advantage; he can pretty much implement any policy he wants without having to fear effective opposition. The fact that he just tossed the ISG report aside illustrates this.

However, this is trumped by the deep unpopularity of the war. From inside the beltway, where people end up when calculating the right triangulation, is not going to matter, ultimately. Whether the democratic politician seeks to implicitly support the war or seeks to define himself as strongly opposing the war, it is still Bush's war.

From my perspective, I think the Democrats can unify around one message--this is a Republican war enabled by a rubberstamp congress. Whether it was a good idea or not, it has clearly been botched, and by neglecting their oversight role, the Republicans own every corrupt, bloody aspect of this war. Whether you think that the US has to remain to fix what it broke, or you think that the US presence is making it more broken, you can agree that this is a republican war, republican execution, and republican failure.

So I'd encourage the Democratic leadership to urge everyone to include that one talking point--that we are all trying to find a way to minimize the damage caused by this misbegotten and incompetently executed Republican war.

Emphasizing this point has the added value of advancing the possibility of withdrawal. Democrats can't apply this pressure on the president. Republicans, especially the 21 senators who are up in 08, can be a source of pressure for withdrawal. If we can just hammer the "disastrous Republican war" talking point, the details of any particular candidate's approach doesn't much matter.

I'll agree that Bush still is the center of power that has to be dealt with, and that at the moment, there is no Democratic - or for that matter, Republican, leader ready and capable of doing that. Also, both parties have an open Presidential nomination for 2008, so right now instead of trying to lead their party, the main contenders in each party are trying to differentiate themselves from their intra-party competition.

It seems to me that that intra-party differentiation will delay the rise of any real opposition to Bush until it is resolved. Because of the extreme messiness of the Iraq situation, there are no good resolutions to be presented that can be used by candidates as significant differentiating ideas. "Stay the course" is clearly not working, setting a timetable for withdrawal has a lot of our Middle Eastern allies extremely concerned for their own welfare, and no expansion or change of strategy or focus of our military has any prospect of success other than holding off total collapse of the Iraqi government.

Whatever does finally get us out will have to come from diplomacy, which is beyond the capability of the Bush administration and is anyway too murky and unclear to be used to galvanize an intra-party leadership campaign for the Presidential nomination.

Right now the potential nominees in both parties seem to be holding their fingers to the wind and searching for indicators of which way the electorate might go so that they can get in front and simulate leadership. Unless something out of the blue happens, that will last until the primaries start in 2008. In 2007 all the potential candidates will be trying to gather money and set up organizations, and the minor candidates will not have to start dropping out until it gets too expensive for them.

In the meantime, Bush has the Presidency with the power to act on foreign policy and military matters, and he has the bully pulpit, which allows him to strongly effect the national news agenda. This is going to leave all his potential competitors looking like midgets in comparison.

Barring some form of lightning strike in 2007, that's going to be the status quo for 2007. Congressional Democrats will get a bit of notice here and there, but you are quite correct to say that for the next year at least, Bush will still dominate the game.

At least, that's how it looks to me this morning. Yuk!

In terms of international relations Steve is right. The President calls the shots - period. And the buraucracy (including the Pentagon) will bend to his will no matter how maniacal. In American foreign relations the Furherprincip has always governed. Right back to Washington and certainly clarified by Lincoln as to where other branches of government be they Cogressional or State stood in relation to military power and foreign relations. The Presidency rules, for better or for worse.

What is interesting is how the Democratic Party has re-emerged as a movement and a real party. This movement is filling in and growing in all areas that are not the Presidency. State and local government, City government, Judgeships, Congressional seats and Senate seats. Powered by the DNC and the 50 state strategy the Democratic Party is waging a long term guerilla war against the Republican Party and pro Republican Party institutions. The Republican "cities" are the Presidency, the large media, the think tanks, and the national chamber of commerce. The Democrats are overwhelming and occupying all the countryside around these "cities" in all the non Presidential forms of government authority as well as unions, local media and universities.

When the Democratic Party wins the Presidency of the United States it will seem to occur under the radar because the Democratic Party strength lies outside of the "cities" of power the Republicans dominate and which receive so much media attention. But when the Democrats launch their assults on these Republican 'cities' they will be doing it with much more depth and power because all the empty spaces in the nation will have been filled with Democratic Party power and influence.

The Democratic Party's foreign policy direction for America will reflect the values and priorities of the areas it is strong in, all non presidential areas of political power. I think this will lead to a much more mature and nuanced foreign poilicy direction for America. The swashbuckling era will be over for now. Some Democratic Presidential candidates are playing in the republican "city of imperial President" instead of listening to the Democratic countryside, but I am confident that this will change. Hillary coming out against escalation in Iraq is a hint of things to come. As are McCain's sagging numbers a reflection of Democratic strength in Americans hearts and minds.

Bush is not bold. He is not thoughtful. As a result he takes actions that are obviously idiotic (invading Iraq) without realizing the consequences. I don't think words like "strong" and "bold" should be used in describing his actions. "Stupid", "moronic", "dangerous", "stubborn", "poorly informed", "subservient to the military-industrial complex" - these are words and phrases that describe Bush.

Tom

I think we are still fearful, not (only) of the threats of terrorists and "islamofascism", but more subconsciously of what we know is inevitably coming: the decline of the US as the sole world power.
This decline of the U.S. as the "sole superpower" has been clearly occurring since the 1960's with the rise of Germany and Japan is clear economic competitors. More recently South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore have been added to the mix of effective international competitors, and the European Union adopted the Euro specifically to compete as an international currency against the Dollar and the Yen.

The conservative movement is built on fear of loss. They know it is happening, and loss today is always easier to see than the gains that often replace the losses. What the conservatives feel are first the loss of the rural farming way of life as America industrialized and urbanized. Then to that they added fear of Communism and the USSR. (interestingly this was fear of loss of control of industrial society which had replaced the lost rural farm life.) Since the 60's the loss of superpower status economically has caused this fear, and this only sped up after the USSR collapsed. Integration, Feminism, and the movement towards diversity all threaten loss of their social status. Conservatives see all these losses and fear their own loss of social status as a result of each of those threats.

Then 9/11 played into every single fear the conservatives had.

But conservatives are about more than fear. They also have a single, instinctive reaction to that fear. They are control freaks.

They want more laws, more police, more military and more prisons. They want every sign of those things they fear destroyed, imprisoned, shouted down in public and kept from the public eye. They'd rather pay for cops and prisons than for schools because schools don't control the "bad elements." They still don't like Blacks because most Blacks do not trust Whites much even yet. (Properly so, in my opinion.)

Conservatives are scared to death of Muslims since they found out those people can really perform large terrorist actions like 9/11, so they really buy that line "Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here." That's why they'd prefer to send more troops into a lost war in Iraq - because they are fighting and killing "ragheads" or "Haj's" over there and away from their homes and famlies. That's the basis of Goode's diatribe against Ellison and the Koran. That's the basis of the anti-immigrant movement.

So in a nutshell, the conservative movement is and always has been motivated by fear of loss, and it's most common reactions are to try to control or destroy those people they fear.

I salute Steve for noting that some leading Democrats are failing to lead, but somehow he seems to draw the wrong lesson after all, as in his title, that liberals are fools. He and the America Abroad crowd should really have a forum called "Beltway Bandits." Even when they see Washington insiders acting too much like, well, Washington insiders, they blame it on everyone else.

John

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Good essay, and well worth thinking about. However, you seem to be assuming that no further disasters will befall the Bush Administration (not to mention the Nation) over the next two years; no additional Katrinas, Schaivos, etc. Mistakes and failures tend to create pressure that leads to more mistakes and failures - particularly when one's philosophy of governing is to destroy the mechanism of government. So I suspect we will seem some addtional major failures by Bush, Rove, Norquist & Co. fairly soon.

sPh

Bush still has the authority to make (bureaucratic) decisions, and if the past is any guide, they will be bad decisions. But that's different from having power, unless it's the power to make things worse.

But the power to influence events? That's a different matter. The remainder of Bush's term will be a preoccupation with Iraq, where his power to influence events is shrinking rapidly and irreversibly.

Just because the Democrats are likely to remain ineffectual does not mean Bush will have power. It means that there is a power vacuum.

From my perspective, I think the Democrats can unify around one message--this is a Republican war enabled by a rubberstamp congress. Whether it was a good idea or not, it has clearly been botched, and by neglecting their oversight role, the Republicans own every corrupt, bloody aspect of this war. Whether you think that the US has to remain to fix what it broke, or you think that the US presence is making it more broken, you can agree that this is a republican war, republican execution, and republican failure.

So I'd encourage the Democratic leadership to urge everyone to include that one talking point--that we are all trying to find a way to minimize the damage caused by this misbegotten and incompetently executed Republican war.

Jay, with all respect, the sentiments expressed in these two paragraphs seem grossly at odds to me.

According to the first paragraph the Democratic messsage is: "The war is Bush's war. It is a Republican war enabled by a rubber-stamp Republican Congress". The image here is that as Republicans drive the car off the cliff, we stand aside and say: "Hey it's their car, and the impending crash is their crash - I'm not driving!"

But the problem is that we are all in the fucking car, and we are all headed off the cliff. We have no real choice but to try to grab the steering wheel.

The message in the second paragraph is "We are earnestly trying to find a way to minimize the damage caused by the Republican war." But there is no way to do that without getting in the car and driving it ourselves. Otherwise the damage just keeps happening. We need to take risks, and take responsibility - not just run a permanent political campaign of blame, passivity and buck-passing.

As painful as this seems to be for many Democrats to recognize and accept, they have just been handed one of the two elected branches of the federal government - a branch that was given by the founders just as much inherent power over the foreign affairs of the country as the executive branch, despite popular legends to the contrary. Democrats asked for this branch of the government, and they got it from the voters. So the war is now our war too, whether we like it or not. We have to accept the responsibility that has been thrust upon us.

Of course, if we never actually do anything, we can't be blamed if things done go wrong. But "not my fault" is not a leader's motto. It is the refrain of cowards and passive bystanders. So how about a bolder and more confident message such as "Have no fear Americans! Democrats are in charge of the Congress now. We're taking control of this country's screwed-up foreign policy and turning it around!"

Many Democrats have talked themselves into believing that Bush's power is magically impervious to assault. They also sometimes suggest that the executive branch is omnipotent in the area of foreign policy. This is bunk. Power is fluid - it flows toward those who want it, and who inspire loyalty from those who seek leaders to follow. Americans are poised for a change. They are desperately waiting for new leadership to rise up and take control of the situation.

Bush has power because he made a play to seize it, and in their fear Americans granted it to him. Democrats must now make a play to seize it back on behalf of their party, the Congress and the American people. They can do it, but not if they follow the passive strategy of playing it safe, avoiding risk, and repeating "not my fault" over and over.

I tried to give this comment a four.

"No Dems are out there demanding to know from the President whether he plans to roll back his tax cuts to pay for this bigger military."

Politicians demand to know what the opposition will do, when they themselves are out of power.

Democrats don't have to ask Bush's permission to roll back his tax cuts to pay for this bigger military. Just send him his Iraq appropriation with appropriate taxes attached. Paying for Iraq with a tax on oil profits makes a lot of sense to me. Just do it.

My high school civics teacher summed up the U.S. Constitution, thus: "The President proposes, the Congress disposes."

But the problem is that we are all in the fucking car, and we are all headed off the cliff. We have no real choice but to try to grab the steering wheel.

Yes, I agree completely. But I do not see a mechanism for grabbing the steering wheel that does not involve significant support and cooperation from Republicans, especially senators.

Democrats must now make a play to seize it back on behalf of their party, the Congress and the American people.

Same point. They cannot exercise the power of the purse. The president will veto bills like Kucinich's, even if passed. And the veto will be sustained unless members of the senate realize that they are going to lose their lose their seats. That's why I think the centerpiece of the message should be to associate Republicans, not Bush, with this war.

Believe me, if you could think of a way a 49-49-2 senate could get us out of this, I'd be first in line. In the end, I don't care about the politics. Just end the madness.

It seems to me that that intra-party differentiation will delay the rise of any real opposition to Bush until it is resolved.

I disagree. At least among the Democratic Presidential candidates, there is going to be tremendous pressure to take a strong stand against virtually everything Bush proposes during the next year if they are going to be competitive in the primaries. (retail politiking in Iowa and New Hampshire notwithstanding).

John Edwards has gotten off the best line so far, calling the "surge" the "McCain Doctrine of Escalation". This was brilliant political jujitsu -- it makes Bush look weak, ties McCain to Bush, and re-frames the debate from a "surge" to an "escalation". Hillary and Obama are going to have to come out strongly against "escalation" as well if they want to keep Edwards from acquiring the mantle of "progressive grassroots favorite".

Democrats have the power to give the GOP just enough rope to hang themselves. They need to use it.

That beast has a lot of money behind it which is used to deceive many of the American people.

Tom

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Tom

Mr. Clemons writes:

Bush may not be one of the smartest presidents this country has had -- but he is one of the boldest, and he loves being the "decider."

There's no debating the first statement up to the hyphen, except to point out that, as stated, it may mis-overestimate the man. 

I'm not quite sure the post-hyphen half is accurate now, if it ever was accurate.   Bush loved to appear the bold decider, and clung to that script as others cling to life-jackets.  But was he ever truly bold?  Boldness and bullheadedness/impulsiveness are not quite the same thing.  And bold men and women generally don't hide behind walls of secrecy, or surround themselves with sycophants the way George Bush has done.  Decisive individuals accept responsibility for their decisions, and don't pass the buck to "advice from generals" or any other convenient scapegoats.  They don't blame reverses on "trifectas" of fate, either.  Decisive and bold "deciders" change course and move on when circumstances merit.  And self-confident, bold, and incisive decision-makers don't, in the eleventh hour, make public show of the kinds of consultations they should have been making as a matter of perpetual practice:  thus delaying the announcement of a new policy in humiliating and embarrassing ways.

I think Mr. Clemons is right to warn about overconfidence, however.  One of the reasons we got Reagan was a feeling that "our side won" when the Vietnam war concluded and Nixon departed in ignominy.  We relaxed and let down our guard, tired after a decade of protest and agitation.  We wound up with Reagan six years later, but not on the basis of "bold agendas" and "action plans".  Those may have worked with Gingrich's "Contract with America," perhaps.  With Reagan, it was more a matter of a compelling narrative, I think.  And to the degree that this is what Mr. C. means by a compelling "alternative,"  I'm in agreement with him.  "Had Enough?" can be part of that narrative:  so can "The Audacity of Hope".  Story--"The vision thing"--is what seems to be so terribly important now. 

The greatest American Presidents could articulate a compelling vision:  the very greatest of them could draw the vision out of the culture and give it voice.  That's the kind of candidate for whom I'll be looking.

aMike

I worry the situation is even worse then Steve believes. It doesn't matter how aggressive the new Congress gets; Bush simply will not listen. The Decider has decided the war will go on (and into Iran, I'm afraid), and so it will go on. Even if Congress defunds the war Bush will find that his unity executive powers now include the ability to levy revenue outside Constitutional procedures. I don't know what that way might be, but you can bet it would be blatantly unconstitutional and gut the seperation of powers for once and for all.
That might be the real reason Democrats tripped all over themselves to promise not to defund the war. They're afraid of provoking a political crisis that would end the American Experiment. Of course, it is slowly dying before our eyes already. As the damage grows, the Deomocrats may find they have no choice, out of simple survival if nothing else.

Yes, I agree completely. But I do not see a mechanism for grabbing the steering wheel that does not involve significant support and cooperation from Republicans, especially senators.

We're going to get a lot of that. Republicans who are running for President in 2008, or even just reelection, are not about to let Bush drag their party down the tubes, and take them with him. Bush is leaving office, but they have to run again on his record, and live with the damage he creates. If he fails to heed which way the political winds are blowing and does not alter his course of action, they will send party leaders to make it clear to him that he is isolated and no longer has their support, and they will work with democrats to scuttle his initiatives.

The President can veto a bill that passes the Congress, but cannot implement a bill that doesn't pass. The Congress exercises the power of the purse both by appropriating moneies, and by refusing to pass requests for appropriations. When it does appropriate money, it can say a lot about how the money is to be spent. In the area of foreign policy, we need more earmarking - not less.

How would you ever get the idea that Congress can't exercise the power of the purse? It's power in that realm is awesome. But the key is the public. Ultimately the winner of these conflicts is the one that has public support. That support is now moving toward Congress and away from the President, and if Congress plays its cards right, and delivers popular results, the trend will continue.

Even in the case of authorizing expenditures and budgets, if the Congress gets on the side of the public, they can avoid the threat of veto. Let Bush go ahead and veto bills that have majority support. Go ahead G.W. - make my day. See how long Bush's Republican allies in Congress will stand for that political assisted suicide.

The Congress can call high-profile hearings on a huge variety of topics. As the political pressure mounts on all those involved in administration wrongdoing and incompetence over the past few years, they will begin giving each other up and pointing fingers to avoid damage to their own reputations, or even prison time. They will begin to write tell-all books to provide a nest egg for the lean times to come, and give themselves soft landings into a new career. All of this will weaken the President further.

Congress can subvert White House plans by delving into executive branch secrecy, and laying bare plans before they come to fruition. It is all a question of how aggressive they choose to be. If the laws they pass are obstructed by members of the executive branch, they can haul those people before Congress and make them account for themselves with camaras flashing. Once again, if they are on the side of public opinion, they win these political dramas.

The members of Congress can hold press conferences. And the caucus can work in a coordinated and disciplined way to elevate top leaders whose voices come to rival the President's in national deliberations. The press will go where the story is. Let Edwards, Biden, Hillary and Obama perform a daily rotation of Democratic foreign policy mssages. Aside from the inherent interest in the statemaents, the press will be obsessed with the 2008 race and the political one-upmanship among our top leaders. Bush is a lame duck, and will come to seem increasingly irrelevat. The more irrelevant he becomes, the more people tune him out, and the less power he has to mobilize public support to get anything done.

He may of course seek to reassert his power with wag-the-dog actions, in which case Democrats can point out "the President is attempting to ressurect his vanishing power by wagging the dog."

Members of Congress can go on high-profile "fact-finding" missions to foreign capitals. They should do everything they can to convey the message that foreign leaders recognize Bush is a lame duck, and that these leaders are now more interested in talking to the people who will still be around post 2008 than they are interested in talking to Bush. And by doing so they will help spread the news that no foreign cooperation will be forthcoming for Bush initiatives, but must wait until there is a new administration in place.

The possibilities are limited only by imagination and timidity. The president might not like some of the things Congress tries, and might claim Congress is stepping on his prerogatives. Fine. Let him take Congress to court and bury himself deeper.

The Congress can also reassert lost or neglected Constitutional authorities. It can force court challenges that bring Presidential usurpations to light. And it can educate Americans on the proper role of the Congress in our Constitutional system.

The Bush era will end on January 20th of 2009, inevitably. Until then he is our President, in spite of all of the fear that arouses, and in spite of his obvious inability to actually perform the duties of his office.

We Democrats need to be working to end the Republican era in 2008, not the Bush era. That's why the proposal to tie the past 6 years around the neck of every single Republican in the world is a good idea. We can't let the Republicans abandon Bush - tie the knots so tight and so thoroughly no escape is possible.

Hoppy in Sacramento

I think Steve's post is a good one and boils down to one cogent point - the chimperor is still a very dangerous beast. As long as he and Che Ney hold the power to use our military, the world is a powderkeg. They itch for whatever justification or excuse possible to blow away Iran. If they are allowed to do that all the King's men will not put this globe back together again.

Many Dems, indeed, many Repubs and military men understand the insanity of an attack on Iran and are opposing it, as well as the equally ludicrous "surge". It may be that there is just enough margin of opposition to block the War Party. There certainly is more organized and vocal opposition to them than at any time in the last 6 years. I am still not sanguine that the forces arrayed against them are sufficient to block, let alone flank, this administration. There are tactical moves being made in opposition, but not a strategic understanding of what we are up against. Or if there is, there is little or no organizing around a strategic alternative.

The overriding reality that few grasp and fewer are willing to discuss in public, is that we sit on the precipice of a blow-out of the world's financial system. It is very close to happening and only an orientation to solve this crises can avert the 100 Years War the neocons have planned.

I copy from my post from last September:

What I ache to see is a return to first principles, or at least those that built the party into one of a longstanding majority – FDR’s commitment to the “forgotten man” and the general welfare. Let’s make a stark moral and policy differentiation between ourselves the Repugnicans right now, and leading into 2006.

-Repudiate this rotten, immoral and illegal war in Iraq. First, apologize to the world for our hubristic arrogance and monumental error in invading. Then, our policy should be to withdraw our troops from the Iraqi urban areas and commence regional talks aimed at garnering true sovereignty and security for Iraq and its neighbors. We have crushed the Iraqi state and it remains to be seen whether it can ever be made whole again. This will take many years to resolve itself. In the meantime, withdraw from the obvious role as occupier and enforcer. Just as important, withdraw Halliburton and Bectel, the private armies, the cronies sucking down the filthy lucre and give the work to the Iraqis. Strongly commit to no permanent military bases and to the sovereignty of the Iraqi oil resources and whatever government they themselves decide upon.

-Repudiate the Bush Doctrine and restate our commitment to the ideals of the Atlantic Charter. Namely, non-interference in the affairs of other states, their right of self -determination, to say nothing of our (now) supremely arrogant presumption to the right to effect regime change. Stop at all costs a new war on Iran.

-Overturn Globalization/Free Trade Imperialism. This is the key area where the Dems have gone so terribly wrong. Are we going to continue to be GOP-Lite? How do you gain the support of the forgotten man when you stab him in the back by exporting his job, destroy skill levels and wage rates, de-industrialize the country and reduce living standards? Yes, the GOP is and has been driving this agenda, but the Dems share some of the blame. From Nixon scuttling FDR’s Bretton Woods system, the de-regulation of transportation and energy systems, the dis-investment in infrastructure, the slow dismantling of collective bargaining rights, NAFTA and CAFTA – we have disemboweled practically the entirety of FDR’s reforms that got us out of the depression, defeated fascism and built the greatest agro-industrial economy ever seen. Dems should have been up on their hind legs to defeat this suicidal shift in our national economic philosophy. They should be up on them now to reverse these policies, just as they (finally) got the gumption to defeat Bush’s plan to loot Social Security.

-US and world TVA style Marshall Plan. The Katrina fiasco has brought into sharp relief that the shift from an industrial to a consumerist, “service” economy has bankrupted our country and leave us in danger of becoming a third world banana republic in short order. We need to make massive investments in infrastructure to begin to make up for the dis-investment of the last 35 years. Investments in rebuilding our dams, locks, levees, ports, railroads, invest in Maglev, bridges, hospitals, water sanitation, etc. These investments will create millions of new high-paying jobs and millions of new Democrats. Lefty Dems have got to get on board with nuclear power. It’s the only way to build a bridge to the future nuclear fusion and hydrogen economy. Sorry, but windmills, ethanol and solar by themselves won’t do anything but further reduce living standards. It’s a sin to just keep burning petroleum-based products as fuel. This resource is need for so many other uses. And it’s a sin to continue to fight wars and waste blood and treasure to keep the oil coming.

If we make this investment today in rebuilding our economy, make a promise of non-interference and actively work for treaties and trade deals to bring more and more of the world into a new anti-imperial and pro-development world order of sovereign states committed to the general welfare of ALL peoples, we’ll have more allies than we can shake a stick at. We’ll be much better prepared to the defeat the back-to-the-Forteenth century crowd, whether they be feudalistic bankers, or Islamic or Christian fundies.

UA

"Just send him his Iraq appropriation with appropriate taxes attached."

This is exactly correct. Support the troops -- with a 5% surcharge on the upper tax brackets, say. Superglue it to the "emergency" appropriations bill. If it is veto-ed, Bush is a flip-flopper like Kerry -- supported the bill before he was against it.

Every request from the President that gets passed by Congress should have something in it his base will have trouble swallowing, but that is also at least semi-popular -- be it tax hikes, minimum wage increases, pollution regulation, rollback of some executive over-reaching, ...

Now you've just said that Dodd, Biden and Clark have all articulated ideas in opposition to Bush.

But what I see you doing, is complaining that the two mainstream candidates that the media has shoved on us --- Hillary and Obama --- haven't done the same.

So you appear to be using this platform to exhort them to "change their spots." To become something different from what, perhaps, they are.

Is that really the best way to get the kind of candidate that you want? To ask a celebrity candidate to embrace your ideas?

Here's my suggestion:

We refuse to let the mainstream media pick who our candidates will be 2 years before the election and instead find those who already do embody our values and get behind them.

If we do that, by the time the general election rolls around, we genuinely will have a Democratic message and candidate to be proud of.

Dan K,

Many Democrats have talked themselves into believing that Bush's power is magically impervious to assault.

You make many many excellent points.  But the flipside of the above single sentence is Jay Ackroyd's comment about the Republicans' ability to control the narrative.  The problem for liberals and Democrats is not so much the difficulty in crafting an argument to Bush-Cheney, but the domination of movement conservatism over the means of communication.  Without fair access to public discourse, and so long as it remains in the hands of a comfortably deregulated news business, all arguments are moot.  So let's lean on the new blood in Congress to support HR 3302, the Media Ownership Reform Act of 2005.

This decline of the U.S. as the "sole superpower" has been clearly occurring since the 1960's with the rise of Germany and Japan is clear economic competitors.

Except the US wasn't the sole superpower even before the rise of Germany and Japan. There was this little thing called the USSR. When were you born, 1991?

The problem for liberals and Democrats is not so much the difficulty in crafting an argument to Bush-Cheney, but the domination of movement conservatism over the means of communication.  Without fair access to public discourse, and so long as it remains in the hands of a comfortably deregulated news business, all arguments are moot. 

I have never really understood the argument, which you hear all the time on the left, that the ownership of the media plays such a huge role in our political discourse.  I don't get it.

Of the major outlets for "movement" conservative thought, you can count Fox News, The Wall Street Journal editorial page, a bunch of magazines and a variety of regional newspapers.  But by far the most effective medium for that stuff is talk radio, which broadcasts across the nation on radio stations large and small, some independent and some part of big communications companies. 

On the flip side, the three major networks plus CNN plus the other national newspapers all have their faults, and on any given day can appear biased one way or another, but they are hardly consistent outlets for movement conservatism.  And of course on the Internet, there are all sorts of voices of all political stripes.

Isn't the real issue not the ownership of the media but the discipline (or lack thereof) with which the two sides put their message across?  Aren't conservatives just more consistent in their positioning themselves?  Low taxes, strong defense, traditional values, economic growth.  What could be simpler?  Democrats always find themselves in the position of "yes, but..." when countering these ideas.  That's what needs to end.

I consider this post -- as well as the many excellent comments upon it -- a good beginning-of-the-end of our current national nightmare. Still, we should not lose sight of two important dynamics that need to change. (1) Commentators should get over the bad practice of labeling Deputy Dubya Bush as "bold" and "resolute" when the words "reckless" and "woodenheaded" so much better capture the vanishingly small "essence" of Sheriff Dick Cheney's propaganda-catapulter. (2) Democrats need to remember with pride the mid-1970s instead of haplessly buying into the Republican Party meme (or "narrative") -- developed assiduously and successfully over the past thirty years -- that snatched a revisionist reactionary "victory" (in the form of the misnomer "syndrome") from the very real defeat in Southeast Asia of the Nixon-Kissinger Fig Leaf Contingent in which I served and have never forgotten. These regrettable and reprehensible dynamics show themselves nowhere more glaringly than in the following recent comments by Democratic Party Senator Joseph Biden:

"We should not exaggerate the ability of the United States Foreign Relations Committee or the Congress to get a president to act in a manner in which the Congress thinks is more rational or more appropriate. There's nothing the United States Congress can do by a piece of legislation to alter the conduct of a war that a president decides to pursue.

"This is President Bush's war."

Absolutely false. Only the Congress has the constitutional authority to declare war and the previous Republican Congresses -- now turned out of office -- "sort of" did "something" "almost" the "equivalent" of that. The President of the United States has no "enumerated" power to declare war and so relies in fact on Congressional willingness to fund war regardless of what "resolutions" Congress may have passed for or against war. The President has only the delegated authority to direct the armed forces to achieve such political objectives through war as the Congress directs he shall pursue, no more no less. Senator Biden seems blissfully unaware of this Constitutional truth.

Specifically in the present instance, the Congress can (1) revisit and revoke the so-called "authorization of force" (i.e., "Gulf of Tonkin II") resolution against Iraq, now clearly and universally recognized as obtained by President George W. Bush through concerted, fraudulent, and consciously duplicitous mendacity. Congress can also (2) agree to fund only the withdrawal of American military forces from the territory and airspace of Iraq, refusing to fund any other military operations in Iraq that obviously endanger the troops and which in any event accomplish no recognizable political goal consistent with the true interests of the United States. Failing co-operation by the Executive branch in carrying out these Congressional mandates -- the Law of our Land -- Congress can impeach and remove from office the Vice President and President who refuse to "faithfully execute" those laws of our land that Congress has written. So, Senator Biden's ridiculous misunderstanding of the American Constitution to the contrary, Congress can most certainly do all three of these things, as Congress did to its eternal credit in the mid-1970s. In fact, Congress must do these three things. As Alexander Hamilton said: Congress "is not at liberty" to divest itself of its enumerated powers vis-a-vis the other two branches of government.

The United States of America has a carefully crafted tri-partite system of government where each branch has adequate and effective means at its disposal to protect its own sources of political power as well as thwart the overreaching excesses of the other two branches. In short, and despite Senator Biden's blubber-mouth pandering to the so-called "imperial presidency," Congress has all the means necessary to compel an end to George W. Bush's private vendetta war in Iraq: a needless conflict absolutely contrary to the best interests of the United States. That Senator Biden ostentatiously proposes to hold hearings while simultaneously pronouncing their effective value negligible begs the question of why America even has a Congress in the first place if it won't do the job of NOT DECIDING ON WAR WHEN APPROPRIATE that the framers of our Constitution envisioned. Letting a single man decide to have his own war to squander our nation's blood and treasure purely in the political interests of himself and his party may appeal to Senator Biden, but such a dejected and defeatist attitude on the part of a member of Congress hardly befits the office he holds -- obviously an impotent one by his own estimation.

The Democrats need to (1) understand that a "Credibility Chasm" has opened between the propaganda catapulter and his citizen targets. No one cares anymore what Deputy Dubya inanely repeats of what Sheriff Dick whispers in his ear after performing voodoo sacrifices before his bunker/crypt shrine to Richard Nixon. America has tuned out the Cheney/Bush co-presidency and will not tune back in. America now wants somebody else and better to manage the nation's affairs. And finally, (2) Senators like Joseph Biden need to stop imagining themselves as the next "commander in briefs" and just do their jobs as Congressmen first: protecting and exercising the enumerated powers of their own co-equal branch of government.

I am not prepared to say ownership is the issue, although in some cases it would seem to be (Fox, Sinclair, CNN).  But the idea that the big news outlets are either unbiased or liberally biased is clearly wrong.

For anyone who was working hard to get as much information as could be had, it was obvious  that the run up to the Iraq war was a put up from long before March 2003.  Yet the public got the message that there was a balanced consideration and the evidence weighed in favor of a war.  The news media carried the water for Bush and his war.  The news media carried the water for Bush and his tax breaks for the wealthy (the general public still doesn't understand that THEY are paying more so that the rich can pay less).  The news media treat preposterous Bush administration assertions as truth and protect "confidential sources" who are not telling them important secrets but are merely using the media as a way to smear their opponents.

If the FCC were doing its job, it would be fining all those stations that carry Rush Limbaugh's blatant lies (there is no free speech protection of blatant lies) rather than those that accidentally show a pastie covered nipple for 5 seconds.

I strongly disagree. Americans are dying every day in Iraq for absolutely nothing.
This isn't about message, it's about life and death.

Isn't it something to see Gerald Ford in death way ahead of Hillary on this war? No way I'm going to forget that in 2008.

You're right that all the Democrats will be piling on Bush, but they will try to do it in different ways. Agreeing with your competition won't get the nomination for you.

Want to know how the press will spin that? First they are going to blame the Democrats for piling on a sitting President and not showing respect for his office. They will be blamed for "Bush bashing." Second, the comentariat will laughlingly point out that even going after Bush the Democrats can't agree with each other. Remember the "Seven Dwarves" comment from 2004?

You are quite right that Edwards has a good sound byte there. I still like Joe Biden's - "This is YOUR war, Mr. Bush."

Bush is leaving office, but they have to run again on his record, and live with the damage he creates.

My point is that we have to tie them to his record. Don't let them distance themselves, especially the 21 senators who are up in 08. This is not Bush's war. It's a Republican war.

How would you ever get the idea that Congress can't exercise the power of the purse?

My point is that THIS Congress cannot use the purse to control this president. Any veto will be sustained.

The Congress exercises the power of the purse both by appropriating moneies, and by refusing to pass requests for appropriations.

As any number of Democratic elected officials have made clear, they will not vote to defund the troops. Kucinich's approach is a good one. His bill is essentially an up or down vote on withdrawal, and doesn't require any new expenditures. It will be an interesting test of the House leadership to see whether that bill makes it to the floor.

The use of the funding resolutions is made more complicated by the gutting of the legislative process by the Republican majority, and their leaving so much unfinished business.

So, sure, in principle, Congress could do something. In practice, it will take broad support among the Republicans. I agree that defections are likely to increase. We've already got Sen. Smith (R-OR) and more will follow. My point is that we should make it as uncomfortable as possible for the supporters of this Republican war.

Oh, and one other thing. If we do successfully establish (the entirely accurate) narrative that this is a republican war, it will be more difficult to implement the stab in the back rhetoric that followed Vietnam. The goal is to have the neo-cons direct that rhetoric to Republicans who caved, rather than Democrats who were powerless.

People like to repeat that Bush is 'bold, and resolute' as if they are descriptive of good characteristics in him. I have stated often, that these are really character flaws in him, developed from his family history of bailing him out at every turn in his life, up to and including his Presidency. School, military service, and business fiascos, are all replete with examples of cases where he fouled up, only to be bailed out by his father or his father's associates, to his benefit, if not to the benefit of those others involved with him in his ventures. That has given him a mindset that many have described as resolute and determined, but is really a wait for the bailout. His mishandling of so many things in this Presidency may have finally reached a level that no bailout is possible, no matter the connections.

I'd say that in 1945 America WAS the sole superpower, and the first real threat to that position was when the Soviets blew first the A-bomb and then the H-bomb. I'll skip over the Berlin blockade and the North Korean invasion of South Korea as those were just local threats.

While true, the above is an after the fact justification of what I wrote. You read the original post the way I was thinking when I wrote it, although I put the phrase "sole superpower" in quotation marks to show that it wasn't completely correct. I just didn't take the time to correct it. You properly caught my laziness.

Steve's argument reminds me of those movies where the godawful villain, who has just murdered people right and left, is finally brained by the mom wielding a baseball bat. Whew! There he is, at the bottom of the staircase, bloody and dead. Or is he? Mom gets to the bottom step. A horrible, bloody hand grabs her ankle, and...

I'm with Red Planet -- and Steve to the extent that he might concede Bush isn't as much the problem as the forces in our culture which create and elect people like Bush. So yeah, the beast is still slouching towards Bethlehem and/or grabbing Mom's ankle. But he doesn't necessarily have the face of George W. Bush. Bush, after all, is at some risk thanks to Congressional investigations What is bugging us all is the weakness of the Democrats. Maybe that will change?

FYI , as a result of the election democrats now hold a 16% lead in state representatives (returning to the approximate split after the the Bush/Gore election).

The absolute numbers are dems: 3989; GOP: 3426
dem lead of 563. (they also gained governors and lead there as well)

In comparison they were tied in state representatives after 2004 when they actually made a little noticed 60 seat pick up while Kerry was losing the nationwide popular vote.

In the 2002 "security election" the GOP gained approximately 500 seats when the national dems were losing in both senate and house.

The current 563 dem edge clearly reflects a more liberal coloration than 2000's similar alignment since that included a much more sizeable "dixiecrat" element. So it is reasonable to conclude this 2006 result reflects a more liberal underlying sentiment than when
Gore was achieving his 500K nationwide lead in the popular vote . A guess which is reinforced by the 2006 vote for the "Pelosi House" as opposed to 2000's vote for what can best be called the Delay one.

Put another way , the dems now have what is almost certainly their strongest support since Monica.

Which probably says something about how we
should deal with Steve's questions but that's above my grade of pay..

I will admit to some confusion in my interpretations of this essay.

First, the proposed "surge" or "escalation" in Iraq is not coupled to increasing the size of the Army and Marines. The "surge" will be manned by current force levels--just as current recruitment goals are to maintain current force levels. It is expected to take up to 10 years to fulfill the proposed increase in the military. Democratic Ike Skelton will lead the committee in the new Congress and approves the increase. The reason? New strategies are needed to deal with new realities in the 21st century--failed states and the possible need to root out bad actors and then properly occupy the area.

Second, my understanding was that the new Congress has requested that any budgets be submitted "in full" which would eliminate a separate supplemental bill for Iraq and Afghanistan. This puts Iraq and Afghanistan under the full budget and under the budgetary rules.

Third, if new expenditures are requested, then to balance the budget new revenues must be found or existing programs will have to have funding slashed. If the Army and Marines are to be increased, then the money to fund that will have to be found in the existing budget or through new revenues. The Democratic leadership has insisted on a return to "pay as you go".

Fourth, there seems to be an assumption that Americans want immediate and complete withdrawal from Iraq. The reality, paraphrasing Obama who opposed the Iraq War before becoming a Senator, is that our options are bad and worse. I think Americans understand that. And Bush is CIC of the military....there is little Congress can do to effect an immediate military decision since the CIC will make that decision. There is withholding of military funds (that will impact American men and women in Iraq) and impeachment. We are very far from having public support for either option.

I also agree with others who disagree that Bush's decisions are "bold". I view the ones he makes as stubborn and refusal to face reality.

This essay just leaves me puzzled.

So describe a path that will end the war that does not involve shifting the narrative, and forcing republicans to confront the political consequences of leaving Americans to die every day in Iraq.

As I said above, if you can do that, I'll be first in line.

The question is, will we leave now with only our shame, or will we leave like this?

 

I assume from your screen name that you are from Missouri. Do you work for Ike Skelton? Because your account is filled with typical beltway bullcrap.

Americans might not want "immediate and complete" withdrawal. But they are fed up with this war, and want the Congress to get to work on getting us out of Iraq. That's what they voted for, and that's what polls continue to show.

As much as you try to weasel out of it with your doubletalk about the surge being "manned by current force levels", the fact is that this surge will require some soldiers to be deployed earlier than originally planned, and others to stay longer than orinally planned. Some guys who would otherwise have avoided getting killed are going to get killed as a result. Ike Skelton is trying to weasel out of his campaign position on this issue, since during that campaign he called for decreasing troop levels. But no matter how creative you are in juggling the books, a surge is not a decrease.

Pay as you go!? Who came up with this latest politician's dodge? Americans want Congress to start working on ending the war. Paying the bills for the war is an important but secondary matter. Here's an idea: less war = smaller bills! Are Congressional Democrats planning on leading on national security, or do they only aspire to lead the national accounting department? Perhaps the gamble is that Bush will not have the nerve to ask for increased revenues, and so Congressional Dems can force him to back out of Iraq wihout having to take any responsibility themselves for ending the war? Highly doubtful. Or is the idea that we can use the war to squeeze some additional revenues out of the public for other things? Hey, maybe we can provide school lunches by serving up the ground-up bodies of our soldiers!

I can't wait to see the campaign slogans in 2008: "Vote for Joe Democrat! Did nothing to end the war, but balanced the war ledgers!"

Democratic Ike Skelton will lead the committee in the new Congress and approves the increase. The reason? New strategies are needed to deal with new realities in the 21st century--failed states and the possible need to root out bad actors and then properly occupy the area.

Bunk. The United States has more than sufficient manpower and hardware to meet our legitimate defensive needs, so long as we stay out of asinine and militarily unnecessary adventures like the Iraq War. Soldiers are like tax revenues to a politician. Give them the revenues and they will spend them. Give them the soldiers and they will kill them. There will never be enough soldiers for all the Washington defense strategists and defense industry pimps and go-betweens, because they will never tire of dreaming up fanatic projects for America's military. As long as there is someone, somewhere, who has not been Americanized, they will say we need more weapons and more soldiers. Well, it is time for the public to start starving the beast, because that is the only way to get fanatics to stop. No to force level increases!

Politically, these increased manpower targets are all about giving politicians some sort of cover to look "tough" and "pro-military". Or maybe if in the end they have to yank the war-related spending away from DoD, they can at the same time raise throw some money their way for recruiting purposes. It's a scam. America does not need a bigger military!

Some guys who would otherwise have avoided getting killed are going to get killed as a result.

Not to advocate a surge , but it doesn't necessarily follow that having more troops in Iraq =s more deaths.

Theoretically we might take exactly the same actions but just have more troops resting in camp which would result in exactly the same casualty level.

Or there  could even be fewer deaths if we  took exactly  the same  actions but with  extra soldiers  than in dangerously undermanned exercises.

It depends on how we intend to alter the mission.

I wouldn't bet my life (or anybody else's life ) on that.

Tom

Brad the Dad,

On the flip side, the three major networks plus CNN plus the other national newspapers all have their faults, and on any given day can appear biased one way or another, but they are hardly consistent outlets for movement conservatism. 

It is not necessary that the mainstream networks be outlets for movement conservatism for its narrative to dominate the perspectives of their news desks.  MSNBC cancelled Phil Donahue's program in 2003, it's highest rated program at the time, because it presented an antiwar forum.  The Reagan movie was too controversial to run on CBS while the pseudohistorical "Path to 9/11" was thrust upon ABC's audience.  Not a single broadcast/cable news department failed to characterize social security privatization by the administration's preferred rhetoric.  Mainstream news media from the Washington Post to CNN portrayed the recent glut of Abramoff-related congressional scandals unanimously as "bi-partisan" in nature.  Imagine if Holocaust revisionism were approached with the same "balance" that the news business affords dispute of the scientific community's concensus regarding the industrial effects on global warming.

There is simply no room for any respect for the public sphere in the movement conservative ethic - public lands, public education, public health; even the military is increasingly dependent upon private security contractors - and it shows up most conspicuously in the battle over the public airwaves.

Are you counting the Iraqi deaths?

Brad the Dad,

Isn't the real issue not the ownership of the media but the discipline (or lack thereof) with which the two sides put their message across?  Aren't conservatives just more consistent in their positioning themselves?  Low taxes, strong defense, traditional values, economic growth.  What could be simpler?  Democrats always find themselves in the position of "yes, but..." when countering these ideas.  That's what needs to end.

What kind of message discipline do conservatives really display when they call for low taxes even as they call for strong defense and an escalation of troop levels in Iraq, a conflict that is already draining the budget of trillions of dollars?  The idea that this is regarded as a consistent set of principles by someone as sharp and articulate as yourself certainly doesn't weaken my argument.

As long as Bush is CIC our soldiers will die in
Iraq whatever the size of the force . And in greater numbers than under a competent CIC.

Bush blew the opportunity to implement a low casualty mission -which would have required overwhelming force a la Powell or Shinseki- when he opted for a macho go-it-alone strategy . That foreclosed any possibility of attracting allies in sufficient numbers to assemble a force of the required size- say 500,000 troops . We simply don't have that many ourselves.

(BTW this is not an after the fact rationalization- I marched against the war
in Feb 03.)

My point , admittedly hair splitting , is that the surge per se is not the issue , it's the mission which will follow.

My guess is that Bush embraces the surge
since he's been told that's the only way to attack the Mahdi Army . In which unfortunately he'll now be encouraged by the success of Ethiopia vs the Islamic Courts .

For all I know it may work: defeat Sadr and put someone- Maliki , Sciri , whoever- in firmer control. Temporarily. But it will certainly be a blood bath and therefore you and DanK are right that a surge which facilitates that reckless mission will kill many of our guys.

At a deeper level the underlying problem is not
the particular mission . It's that it will not be a rationally chosen strategy but rather will reflect the frivolous whim of an inadequate individual , desperate to avoid going into the history books as a failed president , and consequently willing to gamble countless lives in the vain hope of avoiding that . Sick.

I hate to agree with Brad on most anything, but the deal is APPEARANCE.  The right blusters through and makes everything appear simple and straight forward.  They don't admit complications or contradictions.  And there message is packaged to please.  The left needs to learn from this.

No. Of course I should , but I didn't.

4 A Merica,

I hate to agree with Brad on most anything, but the deal is APPEARANCE. The right blusters through and makes everything appear simple and straight forward.

And I agree with you both (and in neither case is it hateful).  However, the simplistic straight forward narrative of the right will prevail so long as it remains unchallenged.  And as long as the idea of public airwaves is up for dubious debate - as opposed to formally enshrined as it once was in the equal time provision of the fairness doctrine and ownership and licensing regulations - then the news business will remain serving its shareholders at the expense of the public interest.

I now have a better understanding of what Steve was trying to accomplish.

The election of Democrats in 2006 was just the FIRST STEP in ending the Iraq misadventure. Even though Michael Murray wants to believe that Congress can stop things because they have the "power to declare war", that didn't stop Vietnam or Korea or Clinton's Balkan efforts. It will not stop Bush in Iraq.

Right now, pressure is being applied on Bush to end Iraq. The Iraq Study Group applied pressure. The midterm election results applied pressure. Public opinion polls applied pressure. The budgetary maneuvers and a return to "pay as you go" apply pressure as the costs of the Iraq War are made clear to the public. Massive public protests can apply pressure--although it didn't work with Nixon and didn't work with Bush prior to the Iraq War starting.

Bush is CIC. The military follows his orders and not the orders of Congress. The only real way to stop Bush and the GOP is removal from office--along with Cheney unless one has decided that Cheney is a dove on Iraq.

You, Dave, are trying to convince me that Congress can actually stop Bush and that somehow this has morphed into a Democratic War. It is not. It is Bush's war. It is the GOP war. There were Democratic enablers who may pay a price in the future--Senator Clinton is one who may pay the price.

Steve is right that some of you are expecting miracles from a solidly Democratic House and a knife-edge lead in the Senate. Won't happen. Bush has to be swayed by the pressure he's getting. If he's not and insists on continuing even if he ends up with only Laura and Barney supporting him, then our only constitutionally sanctioned option is impeachment.

Until Dems forge a compelling alternative and sell that to the nation, Bush will remain powerful by default. Bush will also find ways to divide and conquer.

Steve -- in reality it is not about the Democrats. Practically they can't stop him, nor do we want a country with 2 centers of foreign policy (leg and exec.) decision-making and execution.

The only check on Bush are Republican leaders and conservative pundits who choose to "counsel" him, initially in private. If after their counselling he continues to stay the course by surging then they have to go public. They counsel, they warn and they carry through if he ignores them.  They will only succeed if he believes he needs them to govern, and he may not believe he does. Now as to who they are I start with Sen John Warner but aren't sure where to go next to find the most powerful voices.

Practically, the Democrats can stop Bush by funding only the safe departure of our troops from Iraq. Depending on John Warner is a recipe for 25 more months of death and destruction.

Tom

Mr. Clemons.... I'm chiming in late because I'm not a TPM addict. I viewed Josh's "posit" as one of those nice holiday puzzles I used to get in my stocking as a kid. Obviously, your interpretation was from a political insider's view. Mine, on the other hand, was from outside the Beltway -- Pennsylvania's GOP Bible Belt to be precise. First, I believe DeLay was pushed, he didn't fall. Second, how you could meander into 2008 Democratic presidential politics was a bit confusing to me. I thought the puzzle was about where Bush lost the country. And that seems to be where you miss the point. The country, no longer trusts, respects, or listens to Bush. He is not the power by default. He is the power at fault. If he is the best the GOP has to offer and speaks for the party, Republicans should be very worried. The loudest voices I heard on Election Day where the moderate Republicans who regretted putting him back in office. Also, I think you may be hasty in your evaluations of "the decider" being "the divider". Let the Democrats come to power and use it --- I predict C-Span's hearing coverage will push its ratings through the roof --- before you begin to criticize that party's inability to cohere. Lastly, I welcome your comments on this homogenized Web site. Keep them coming in the new year.

Congress doesn't even try to reign in the president.  They claim to be big boys, but they are always playing with the tinker toys (earmarks).

Step one.  Defund OMB.

Step two. Defund the OFFICE OF the Vice President.

Step three. Forbid the President and the Vice President to "Borrow" staff from agencies.

Step four. Defund all staff positions in the White House.

Step five. Invite the president over to negotiate. 

You just gave me an idea that is a variation of yours. Could it be done and would it have any policy impact?

What if Congress funded both the Administration's program for Iraq and an alternative Democratic plan. Would the existence of funding for the elements of a Democratic/oppostion plan give the Democrats any more oversight power?

Could the Democrats then use their programmatic funding to tell the country that the money is there to do what the country wanted in the election?

A couple of observations:

First, I'm just struck by the fact that conservatives complain about the same things in "liberal" papers like the NYT. The point is that most people seem to think that objectivity means telling the story from their side and any narrative that deviates from that is "biased".

Second, these failures, if they are failures, are errors in news judgment and have very little to do with ownership structure.

Third, many of the issues you cite are a result of what I was talking about before.  Conservatives are more disciplined about their message.  They have also been so loud and consistent about how the media is "biased" that they have to some degree intimidated the editors of some publications.  The LA Times, most famously, has explicitly told its journalists to be on the lookout for biased writing.

As Colbert has reminded us, "Reality has a well-known liberal bias." This is a problem for today's main-stream media, including public broadcasting, whose policy seems to dictate airing both (or all) sides of controversial issues with equal emphasis and without comment, regardless of how ludicrous, internally inconsistent, or factually challenged one of the arguments may be. Doing otherwise leaves them open to charges of bias from the right.

Defound the Office of Management and Budget?

An outsider may consider debates over if this occupation is "Bush's war" or "the Democrats' war" as rather astonishing.

America is one single nation, isn't it? It's the nation that has gone to war, and it's the nation that will carry the consequences.

Bush or Democrat Congressmen are instruments, not autocrats.

Yes, OMB's essential role is to provide analytic service to the President. The government functioned for 130 years without it. If Congress wants to play tough, it takes the President's toys away.

A single, two-party nation.

With respect to this war, we are a single nation in the sense that we are all responsible for the actions of our country, whether we thought the invasion was justified or not.

With respect to how we go forward from here, Republicans and Democrats differ. The debate over "Bush's War" vs. "Democrat's War" is important because it moves public opinion which will determine which party's philosophy will dominate the next phase of our involvement in the Middle East.

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