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As a followup to discussing why politicians need to appeal to a broad consensus, it's worth emphasizing that it's easier for them to do this when non-politician leaders and advocates are pushing for even bolder goals-- thereby allowing the politicians to position themsevles as "centrists" and consensus builders.

Which makes Dem leaders' positioning on the minimum wage, at least as detailed in this NY Times story a few days ago, look absolutely stupid. Apparently with the Dem leaders pushing a position of raising the minimum wage to $7.25 per hour, the Economic Policy Institute was pressured to drop a public recommendation for the rate to be raised to $8 per hour:

Trying to push the populist case, the Economic Policy Institute, a labor-oriented research center, posted a statement in late November calling for an increase in the minimum to $8 an hour in 2009 instead of the $7.25 proposed by the party leaders. That recommendation was quickly withdrawn, however, under pressure from the leadership. “Our friends on Capitol Hill said our statement would be heard as criticizing the Democrats,” said Ross Eisenbrey, the institute’s policy director.

Let's be clear-- many states have already raised the minimum wage above $7.25 per hour. Back in 1968, adjusted for inflation, the minimum wage had a value of $9.50 per hour. So the Economic Policy Institute was making a pretty basic progressive argument that $7.25 per hour was not adequate.

The Dem leadership should have just said that they recognized the need for greater wage increases for the working poor, but in the name of consensus, they were willing to compromise with the GOP at $7.25 per hour. But slapping down EPI means that the Dems have cut off their left flank and positioned themselves on the left of the debate, not in the middle-- a very stupid move.

In reality, Dems should welcome criticism from progressive organizations, since the stronger grassroots messaging for more ambitious social change, the more "moderate" the Dems can portray themselves as in pushing their more consensus positions. Especially when $7.25 per hour is so clearly a pathetic wage and far below the historic rate, Dems should be happy to have voices arguing that a higher rate is justified to make the inevitable GOP complaints look all the more pathetic and nasty.

So the Dems slapping down EPI is just bad message positioning by the Dem leadership.

 


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I agree. Perhaps the EPI needs to review their "friends" on the Hill to make sure they are contacting the right folks....that is, ones without their heads stuck firmly in the sand.

=== But slapping down EPI means that the Dems have cut off their left flank and positioned themselves on the left of the debate, not in the middle-- a very stupid move. ===

You have to trim your sails to avoid angering the Radicals. Otherwise you might be seen as partisan. Giving away your negotiating position at the open is a good centrist strategy that will please the DC media elite. Good bipartisan politics of compromise.

sPh

Hmm...well, it's this kind of thinking that has bluebell splitting her ticket with the Greens.

Let's look at the ship of fools. First, the Democrats are fools because they can't even execute a strategy of surrender. Second, the American people are supposedly fools because they are believed to be too stupid to notice the bottomless insincerity of the Democratic Party. Third, the left are supposedly fools because we are believed too stupid to figure out that the party wants us only in the role as Punch and Judy puppets to be bashed by the establishment for the greater glory of centrism.

And last, as always, are the poor fools the Democrats will not represent, the working poor or any poor or anyone with any need that requires representation all pawns in the surrender strategy. We won't represent you, but we might pretend to if it it suits us but don't count it because we reserve the right not to if it looks better on Fox News.

I was thinking that their heads were stuck firmly somewhere else.

Exactly. 

I never understood why no one on the left countered the right when they started calling inheritance taxes the Death Tax.  It would have been so easy to suggest that we follow God's example and make the death tax 100%.  It's good for a laugh or at least a conversation stopper.

 

Digby on this approach to politics, in the context of civil unions in NJ:

Some progressives and gay rights advocates in New Jersey made the decision to apply as much pressure as they could on the legislature to go for marriage, and in the process moved what was almost pre-ordained to be a civil union bill, to one that would cause some pain on any legislators who tried to mollify their right flank with an accompanying vote to take marriage completely off the table. It left the door open and that means that progressives won't have to reinvent the wheel when the time comes around to revisit the issue. This is smart politics.

The republicans have been doing this for a generation. They have these bat-shit crazy guys who want to lock up doctors who perform abortions, or want to eliminate Social Security. Then they position themselves as protectors against this extreme wing of the party.

Life is like a vast movie.  We all have a role to play.  Our role as activists, or as leftists, or as liberals, is to ask for what our fondest dreams would be.  So, we should be demanding fully funded, federally paid health care for all people who are in America.  And, that health care should be paid with a 90% tax on all incomes over $200,000 per year.  While we are at it, we should demand that no automobile be allowed to be registered in any state unless it gets 50 miles per gallon in highway driving.  Etc.  If we play our role well, we do exactly as Nathan stated - we provide cover for moderate Democrats to pass needed legislation to get us started along the road that might some day lead to accomplishment of those desires.

It is not our role to compromise on our demands.  We activists never compromise - we elect politicians to do that.  This isn't wrong, immoral, un-American, etc., it is just how the world works.  It works when you are in the Sierra Club, fighting for an end to logging in national forests.  It works if you are in MADD fighting to lock up any driver caught with any alcohol in his blood.  We need to learn and act our roles better.

Hoppy in Sacramento

Actually, life is like a vast load of crap.

This is all news to me. I'll see what I can find out and report back, though I'm a little out of pocket for a few days.

Max B. Sawicky

Or make the conservative argument that when you tax something you always get less of it.

No, life is like a day-glo purple watermelon spiked with Everclear, salt peter, and muscilage; but nobody knows why.

True fact. Umm-hmm.


If raising the minimum wage is good for the working poor, then why not $100.00 an hour?


The sons of the prophet are noble and bold,
and quite unaccustomed to fear.
But the bravest by far in the ranks of the Shah
was Abdul Abulbul Amir

Great argument!

Using the same argument: If ignoring the minimum wage is good for the economy, then why not eliminate it completely?

That way, we could go back to the Grapes of Wrath days when laborers could under-bid each other to do backbreaking, piecemeal work for pennies a day to enrich their greedy bosses.

That "50 miles/gallon" thing would play hell with poor people. How about a fed law, administered by states disallowing new cars that get less than 50/gallon being sold in the state. Detroit MIGHT sit up and take notice on that one.

That said, according to people who study these things, France has probably the best healthcare system. It's designed much like our SS System. In other words, everybody has to pay in. One of the problems with our non-system is that 18-30 year olds usually don't pay into any plan because they figure their odds of needing one are slight if at all, which appreciably increases our overall healthcare costs. And then there's that ridiculous situation that over 70% of healthcare dollars are spent on people who are TERMINALLY ill.

Most people who have serious diseases are terminally ill if not treated.  Such illnesses are the most serious we face, so they cost the most to combat.  I don't see a way to do a cost/benefit analysis when it comes to medical treatment.

But, you are right that the 18-30 yr olds don't usually buy health care insurance, and when they get gravely ill they use the emergency room system, which drives up the cost of medical care for everyone.  Or, they, like an aquaintance  of mine, use the welfare system to pay for their treatment, again driving up the cost for the rest of us.  That is why, as you noted, a SS type system where we all pay, is the only viable way to get universal health care.

Hoppy in Sacramento

Don't forget, Bush has two more years in office.  He has made a list, is checking it twice, better hope he overlooks this item on the list. 

Hoppy in Sacramento

A Dec 7 memo by the aforementioned Ross Eisenbrey and Jared Bernstein makes their position (EPI does not issue corporate positions as such) clear:

"And Republican House leaders say the minimum wage is “an issue ripe for compromise.” No it’s not. There is, in fact, no room to compromise on a minimum wage increase that has been delayed for nine years, to a level that will lift the earnings of less than half of the low-wage workforce. . . . Once they have passed the bill they have promised, the Democrats should come back quickly with the rest of what is needed. We suggest a raise to at least $8.00 an hour in mid-2009, with 50% of the national average wage for production, non-supervisory employees as the ultimate target to ensure that the wage floor never drops out from under working Americans again."

EPI does not delve much into legislative strategy. We do not lobby.  For insight on that front, Nathan might seek feedback from Congressional sponsors of the relevant legislation.

Max B. Sawicky

http://maxspeak.org/mt

max@maxspeak.org & The Economic Policy Institute

 

I think it's time for Dems to up the ante on the minimum wage. Earlier this week, President Bush said he'd agree to a $2.10 minimum wage hike, as long as it includes "tax and regulatory relief for small businesses."

"I don’t expect Democratic leaders to compromise on their principles, and they don’t expect me to compromise on mine," he said. "But the American people do expect us to compromise on legislation that will benefit the country."

Here's a thought: since Bush doesn't expect Democratic leaders to compromise on their principles ... they shouldn't. Instead, they should counter the President's gambit by upping the ante with a principled deal of their own—targeted economic-development assistance to small businesses in geographic areas that need it the most and, as EPI has suggested, an annual, automatic increase in the minimum wage that would boost the minimum to (and keep it at) 50 percent of the national average wage of a non-supervisory production worker. If Bush rejects that principled offer, then Dems and President can "compromise" on a bill that only raises the minimum to $7.25 ... for now.

Shawn Fremstad
www.inclusionist.org

Good thinking, Shawn! This is the way it is supposed to work. Democrats need to find the backbone to ask for or even demand what their basic principles say we should have. Compromising before the negotiations even begin is a losing strategy. It will do no one any good if, now that Democrats control the Congress, they just become Republicans with a slight leftward leaning.

Hoppy in Sacramento

I was thinking it was strange to have it packed with sand, but then again figured it might be a Washington thing.

Publically declare support that its only wealth inheritance that will be taxed ... if you figure out a way to take it with you, it should be tax free.

Max-  EPI's position is pretty clear from the NY Times story.  What's interesting (and sad) is that the Dems were obviously trying to downplay any public discussion of demands for higher wages beyond their proposal.

One of the major failures of the left side of the political spectrum lies in the attitude that the left has a "role to play". This isn't about playing a role. Your vote and my vote are every bit as important as any robotized, focus-grouped split the difference, message tested, faux everyman voter that the punditry keeps feeding up as the "moderate man".

Don't play a role. Expect to be represented. And don't vote for any candidate who refuses to represent YOU.

I'm engaged in a floating argument with other left-of-centerists about voting for third-party candidates when one finds neither of the majors acceptable.

It would seem that the prevailing policy on the left is that one has to vote for a Democrat; doing otherwise is the same as voting for the candidate from Wingnuttia. The classic argument on their side goes, "If Nader hadn't cost Gore the election in Florida, we could have avoided all suffering caused by the Bush Administration." This, of course, is wrong in many ways.

First, it is simply incorrect. Gore won the Florida 2000 electoral college vote. The Supreme Court stole it from him, bringing shame on themselves and disaster upon the country.

Second, this philosophy reduces us to voting only against something. This is not a particularly effective way to select the leaders of a representative democracy.

Third, as you say, if neither of the major party candidates represents you, then neither should get your vote. Vote for someone who does, even if it is yourself. Voting for an unacceptable candidate merely encourages the Democrats to repeat the mistake of nominating unacceptable candidates.

The source from which I got the statistic defined "terminally ill" as people whose illnesses were untreatable. To me that meant people who were on their death beds. According to what you said, neither do I see a way to do a cost/benefit analysis.

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