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Rummy's Long Knives

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He's not even gone, and already Don Rumsfeld has his knives out for his soon-to-be former boss. First, he tells an interviewer that he was fired because of the "outcome of the election" even though Bush said the opposite. Then, he says that the phrase "'war on terror' is a problem for me." What's next? That Iraq was a mistake?


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Didn't Rummy try to start calling it the Struggle against violent political extremism a few years ago, and the Princeling shot it down, since being a "Struggle President" did not provide him with the desperately needed delusional comfort he got from being a "War President".

Rummy is sounding a little out of it lately. He certainly contradicts himself rather ridiculously on the second point. He comes across as very phony.

He may be right about the first point, though. I wouldn't be surprised if the President was lying on that one.

Yet another disgruntled former employee with an axe to grind. Just like Paul O'Neill, Richard Clarke, Gen. Zinni, David Kuo, John D'Iulio, Michael Brown... poor Georgie! why is everyone picking on him?

Funny thing about Rumsfeld is that if he hadn't been in office these past six years and somebody else had committed exactly the same mistakes, there would be an enormous push amongst Republicans, but also perhaps more widely, to give him the job now. This is chiefly b/c his rhetoric (adaptability, be prepared for the unexpected, etc.) is so far detatched from what he actually did. This seems like another example. But, he cannot run away from the fact that he is one of the very few Sec Def's to have lost a war.

Oof! Now maybe we know why Bush felt bound to keep him in that job at such bitter length. Maybe it wasn't about "loyalty"?

I can't help the sneaking suspicion that the ISG and all of the gruntleness since the election is designed to provide a huge left-hand barrier for Bush's policies located sufficiently on the right. Bush *has* to hand this mess off to the next administration, and he can't do that if ending the war in the next two years is still on the table. The only visible discourse on the war has been from ex-hawks coming out of the woodwork, "yearning to breathe free," but something about it just stinks. I think the fact that there is no visible Democratic rhetoric happening has something to do with it. The Right is once again controlling the dialog, the news cycle and the terms of engagement.

When we get to the "Iraq is a mistake" part, the appropriate visual aid is here.

Lately?

Tom

Rummy's probably telling the truth, though what happened probably went down like this:

  1. The Bush Sr. crew manages to get the Bush Jr. crew over a barrel somehow, and force them to say they'll dump Rummy.
  2. Junior and his buddies have their fingers crossed, but agree to listen anyways. They figure that if they walk away from the election still in control, they can tell Senior to go tale a hike.
  3. Junior gets killed in the election. Now, Junior has no leverage -- he has to dump Rummy.

We know they didn't really want to dump him, because if they wanted to do so, the best time for this would be before the election. Rummy is about as popular as the clap, so the loss of him could overcome the hit they have with the base for looking weak. Instead, they wait until after the election, so he drags them down AND they look weak.

Obviously, they were talking to Gates, and he's obviously Poppy's boy. (And Barbara is probably bragging about Gates's exploits and not even mentioning Junior's.) They probably figured that they'd make it through alright, maybe down a few seats, and not have to change a thing.

It's hardly surprising that Rumsfeld has come to see the light when he has finally been held accountable, something the Republican Congress failed to so even though the Constitution entrusts them with oversight responsibility.

I trust that now that the Democrats are finally in control of both houses of Congress that they won't make the same mistake.

Now that he's got one foot "off the reservation" it'll be interesting to see how they're going to keep him quiet. Too bad, because it would be nice to see more of the truth come out. I'm guessing he gets offered a slew of Directorships, as opposed to the William Casey treatment.

You know, we ought have a contest.
I'm picking Halliburton and the Carlysle Group...

-Dave Adams-

I hope so, but don't bet your house on it.

Tom

Oh my goodness gracious!

Is he an arrogant prick? Yes. Is he mortified by the perception that he was fired? Of course! Does he need all this aggravation? No. Does it rankle this modern Gulliver that so many Lilliputians regard him as the primary architect of our country's most unmitigated military failure? Obviously. Would he like to salvage his place in history? 10-4, good buddy! Isn't that a long shot at this point? Affirmative. Will he spend the rest of his life attempting to shirk responsibility for his innumerable, catastrophically wrong decisions as SecDef? Roger that! Is that proof of moral cowardice? Indubitably.

"If knowledge hangs around your neck like pearls instead of chains, you are a lucky man!"

Rummy's retirement won't be too comfortable. He will be doing a bit of testifying. He has those potential law suits to face as well as at least four congressional committees that are going to want an accounting. Not only do they want to flesh out Iraq, they also want to evaluate his military reforms. Other committees want to discuss Contracts and Contractors and procurement matters generally. If there are hearings about Gitmo, Military Commissions, detainment policy -- Rummy will be one of the star witnesses. And yea, they will swear him in and maybe threaten contempt if he does not straightforwardly answer questions.

What I find interesting is that now that Gates has been confirmed, why isn't he at the center of this policy re-evaluation? My guess is that Cheney has not totally let go yet and come to terms with the power shift. Afterall it is Cheney who placed the network all over the Departments and Agencies -- and it twas he who had all the paper pass his desk before it moved to the President if we are to believe some of the insider stories. If Gates, as rumored, gets rid of Pace at Joint Chiefs, and otherwise cleans house, and then minimizes Cheney's influence by demanding to see the President Alone, things could get interesting.

By the way there was an interesting conversation during the Gates Confirmation between Robert Byrd and Biden and Senator Warner: Byrd proposed a new Resolution regarding Presidential Authorities vis a vis Iraq, contending that the October 2002 resolution was now long outdated. Warner and Biden agreed to work with Byrd on this. Gates was then asked his opinion -- and he said he would have to reserve judgment till he had a chance to explore the details. Then Levin chimed in and said he too would be interested.

I am actually surprised there has not been more comment on this little conversation.

Or, is that to have lost two wars. I don't think we can put Afghanistan in the win column at this point and it is drifting further toward a clear loss every day. If the Taliban are back in power throughout most of the country at the end of 2008--which is not far fetched--he will be the first Defense Secretary in history to lose two wars.

--Ken Riley

 

Ivo,

You sent us to war in Kosovo based on false and misleading information and in doing so you were doing the bidding of Al Qaeda. Holbrook even admitted the pre war diplomacy was a smokescreen. YOU later admitted the war was a mistake. I will predict that there will be much less distance between Rumsfeld and his former boss than you showed with yours.

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