Meaningful UN Sanctions Would be Great, but...
I agree with everything Bruce says about Iran – strong UN sanctions would be ideal. What I disagree with is what is implicit: that we can still get UN sanctions that send a meaningful message.
Bruce writes that
Sanctions are as much if not more about political credibility by manifesting multilateral solidarity as economic impact. If the UN doesn’t act, no American and European sanctions can make up for it. The UNSC yet again will have made a threat, and yet again not delivered on it.
Absolutely. But the sorts of lowest common denominator sanctions we’re looking at won’t do much for UN credibility. (Russia now says that even travel bans are too harsh.) Strong US/EU sanctions can’t make up for strong UN ones, but the second alternative doesn’t seem to exist. The UNSC has already shown that it won’t deliver on its threat – the only question left is how far it will fall short, and how best the US and EU can preserve their credibility even if, on the Iranian nuclear program, the UN is unlikely to.
Let me end with a question for Ivo and Jim: How would the philosophy behind a Concert of Democracies guide us here?















What's "credibility" got to do with it?
It's one of those empty shibboleths hard-power believers constantly fall back on when their arguments fall short.
For three years now we've heard that the UN had lost all credibility, was irrelevant, etc. If so, then why is the US government begging the UNSC to come up with real sanctions? Condi Rice is the whiner-in-chief. And whining is pretty much all the US can do right now. Trouble is, you can't beg X and diss X at the same time.
The US has failed at every single foreign policy initiative in the last 3 years and has lost its superpower status through its own sheer stupidity. And you worry about the credibility of the... UN.
Straight out of a Borat skit.
December 12, 2006 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
you're absolutely right. the spread of nuclear technology is a threat to american security and only through aggressive non-proliferation policies can we make the country safe. we should hold pakistan accountable, no doubt.
December 13, 2006 8:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's play a game. It's called: think like a neocon. The point of the game is to figure out how to make the neocon dream become a reality.
Let's start with the neocon dream: "regime change in Iran", as described yesterday by our very own Josh Marshall:
How do we make this neocon dream a reality? Well, it's not as simple as installing a Shiite regime in Bahgdad. The neocons think they need to...apply some force to Iran to trigger the regime change they seek. How can they possibly justify such an attack? Answer: focus on the Iranian nuclear program. Seymour Hersh's article from April of this year:
Everyone agrees that bombing Iran as an exension of the Iraq war is "crazy," right? So bombing Iran as the reasonable and necessary antidote to Tehran's nuclear ambitions is, what? Less crazy? Even if the outcome is exactly the same?
I'm going to say this as politely as possible. The problem with serious "foreign policy experts" like Mr. Jentleson is their pre-Iraq mindset. They fail to recongize that the Bush Administration views the Security Counsel as an essential tool in building its case for war. The Administration used the Security Counsel to build legitimacy for the Iraq war, and by pushing for sanctions against Iran, they seek to do so again. When sanctions fail, they will bomb Iran.
By "pushing" for UN sanctions, people like Mr. Jentleson empower the Bush Administration directly. The Bush Administration needs people like Mr. Jentleson to call for sanctions, so that in case the Security Counsel fails to impose sanctions, the Administration can accuse the Security Counsel of not doing its job. This is an essential part of selling the war. The louder the call for sanctions from folks like Mr. Jentleson, the more reasonable it seems when the Bush Administration takes matters into its own hands in the face of Securety Counsel inaction.
The only reasonable, logical approach for left of center foreign policy experts to take is this: resist any attempt by the Bush Administration to engage in regime change in Iran. Regime change in Iran must be viewed in context with the War in Iraq, which takes precedence over concerns with Iran's nuclear ambitions. By pushing for regime change now, the Bush Administration is attempting to fundamentally change the Iraq War - to widen the war, appease our Sunni and Israeli allies, and destroy the Iranian leadership all at once. This is an insane course of action, which no doubt led to the Saudi Ambassador's abrupt retirement this week.
The calls for UN "credibility" ring hollow. Under a Democratic president, we all hope the Security Counsel will once again provide a mechanism for managing international conflicts. Under the Bush Administration, however, the Security Counsel is nothing more than a tool - a veil of legitimacy that cloaks the Administration's neoconservative plans. Those who care about the Security Counsel's legitimacy should not be arguing for it to give in to the White House's demands. Rather, the Security Counsel's legitimacy rests on its ability to resist the Bush White House...
God willing, in two years, we will return to the pre-Iraq minset in which the White House and Security Counsel work together. At that point, we can return to the issue of the effectiveness of sanctions and weigh the benefits of the collective use of force through the Security Counsel.
In the meantime, take a look at Hersh's latest, from November 20, 2006:
December 13, 2006 9:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
also, we shouldn't kowtow to countries that have ties to terrorists. i imagine your call for sanctions against saudi arabia will be forthcoming.
really, no one is buying your next war. (have i been redirected to the PNAC website? just wondering)
December 13, 2006 9:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Also, I'm curious. Does this matter?
December 13, 2006 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Michael
Do you have a sense if the Bush Administration wants sanctions to prevent both Iran and North Korea from developing nuclear weapons or are the sanctions a means to have regieme change? Listening to the various people in the Administration it is never clear what their bottomline is on these two countries>
Daniel A. Greenbaum
December 13, 2006 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Send a strong signal to the Iranians that .... the US and EU want to steal Iran's "inalienable right" to indepedent nuclear power? Yeah, that'll fly. Surely, the Iranians will just fall in line with that. I can just imagine Ahmadinejad going on TV to say "Dear Iranian people - we've been threatened with a travel ban, so we've decided to give up on the energy source of the future, and you lot can go eat grass for all we care."
Sure, that'll send a real strong message.
December 13, 2006 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
owenz, while I agree that sanctions against Iran would be counterproductive, I think you are grossly overstating their role as a pretext for the Iraq war. The UN sanctions against Iraq were over a decade old by the time of the invasion. The Bush pretext concerning the UN was the UNSC resolution, not the sanctions. It was a false pretense of course, it was obvious that Bush was gonna invade Iraq no matter what. But let's be clear on the history here: This country had fearful electorate and a cowtowed media and Democratic Party leadership that was a lot weaker than it would be today if Bush tried for military action on Iran. Also, Bush went in *despite* a lack of support from the UNSC and the international community as a whole. So I really don't think sanctions would do anything to help Bush build a case for "regime change".
December 13, 2006 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink