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Bush Foreign Policy – How Deep is the Failure?

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Bush’s war in Iraq has been repudiated, the midterm elections did this. There is now wide open intellectual space to debate America’s next foreign policy. Jackson Diehl made this point in his commentary on the Princeton Project in Monday’s Washington Post.

The debate now is really over how deeply flawed Bush foreign policy is. Is Bush failure primarily about Iraq or is it rooted more deeply in philosophy and grand strategy? And if the failure is about philosophy and grand strategy, is this an indictment only of neo-conservative ideas or of liberal internationalism itself?

Two groups are narrowing the critique. First, neo-conservatives are arguing that Bush failure is, well, because of Bush – incompetence and the failure to fully push their ideas. The debacle of today’s foreign policy does not discredit neo-conservatism – the ideas were never fully implemented. This is Bill Kristol's view, expressed last May: “Much of the U.S. government no longer believes in, and is no longer acting to enforce, the Bush doctrine. . . the United States of America is in retreat.” Soon it will be the weak-kneed Democratic congress that will also be implicated in Bush failure. Second, some liberal hawks who supported the war are also making a very limited critique. To be sure, the war itself is now seen as a mistake – certainly its conduct – but the general Bush orientation toward terrorism and the use of force is taken as essentially valid. Indeed, these liberals would say that the primary challenge for Democrats is to convince voters that they can “do national security” like Republicans can. This political imperative makes a thorough-going critique of Bush failure difficult -- and unwise.

But the flaws run deep.

Now is the time for an honest post mortem of Bush foreign policy. Bush foreign policy has failed not just because of incompetence or bad luck in Iraq. The entire intellectual edifice of Bush foreign policy – such as it is – is deeply flawed. And let’s be clear. The Bush administration’s grand strategy is not simply a variation on earlier postwar liberal internationalist grand strategies – as some conservatives and liberals suggest. It was a radical departure from America’s postwar liberal hegemonic orientation – and the world has bitten back.

Martin Wolf makes this point in a column in Wednesday’s Financial Times, drawing on the arguments that Charles Kupchan and I made in a 2004 article in The National Interest.

“The signal feature of this administration has not been merely its incompetence, but its rejection of the principles on which U.S. foreign policy was built after the Second World War. The administration's strategy has been based, instead, upon four ideas: the primacy of force; the preservation of a unipolar order; the unbridled exercise of U.S. power; and the right to initiate preventive war in the absence of immediate threats.

"The response to the terrorist outrage of September 11, 2001, reinforced the hold of all these principles. The notion of an indefinite and unlimited ‘war on terror’ became the fulcrum of U.S. foreign policy. It led to the idea of an "axis of evil" connecting Saddam Hussein's Iraq to theocratic Iran and Kim Jong-il's North Korea. It brought about the justified invasion of Afghanistan, but also the diversion into Iraq. Not least, the idea of the war on terror led to the indefinite imprisonment of alleged enemy combatants without judicial oversight, toleration of torture, "extraordinary rendition" of suspects, the extra-territorial prison at Guantánamo Bay, and, by indirect means, the abuses at Abu Ghraib. All this has been bad enough.

"It is made worse by what John Ikenberry of Princeton University and Charles Kupchan of Georgetown aptly describe as the ‘sloppy intelligence, faulty judgment, and ideological zealotry’ that marked implementation, above all in Iraq. Yet the poor implementation is not an accident. A belief in the primacy of the military naturally led to the transfer of responsibility to the Department of Defense; a belief in the efficacy of force created the conviction that victory meant peace and a swift transition to democracy; and disdain for allies guaranteed the absence of co-operation in postwar occupation.

"The U.S. must now start again. It must design a foreign policy for the current age. In doing so, it should discard almost everything the Bush administration has proclaimed.“

So as we debate what will replace Bush foreign policy, we also need to ask the prior question: how deep is your critique?


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Our foreign policy is an extension of our domestic policy. Our domestic policy is based upon consumerism and the continual growth of business. Not only the growth of business but an accelerating rate of growth. This type of growth can only be managed by consuming increasingly large amounts of resources, whether energy or raw materials.

But the days of seemingly unlimited supplies are drawing to a close. The world population is slated to go from 6.5 to 9 billion by mid-century. Backward countries like China and India are rapidly improving their standards of living and this, and the increased population, is making the strain on resources more severe.

The US (and the rest of the industrialized world) has had several hundred years as the ones who set the terms for how these resources are to be obtained and at what cost. They are now starting to lose this exclusive power. China, for example, is busy locking up oil deals in Africa and the middle east.

Our response to date has been to "send in the Marines", but this no longer works well. South America is now ignoring us and Iraq shows that control of the middle east is also doubtful. The neo-cons want to disguise our self-serving resource needs under a cover of "democratization". The neo-liberals want, instead, to use soft power through "negotiation" and spoon feed "democratization" rather than the force-fed variety.

What nobody wants to talk about is what is driving the demands - consumerism (or materialism, if you prefer). Attempts to continue to command 40% of the resources by 4% of the world population can only run into stiffer push back as time goes on. You can sugar coat it anyway you wish, but the situation can only get worse.

Instead of playing with relabeling our self-serving international demands, how about focusing on restructuring the way our economy is organized. There has been lots of work on developing a sustainable or steady-state economic model. One source I frequently cite is Herman Daly.

I've also got my 2 cents here. Daly focuses on the mathematical impossibility of continuing on our present path, I deal with the issues that capitalism which depends upon repaying investment via growth will no longer be viable under a steady-state economic system. I might just note that until the industrial revolution most societies were steady-state so this is not breaking new ground.

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John,

One of the debates I see emerging arose in the context of our discussion of the Princeton Project report a few weeks back. It is the debate between what I then called "global internationalism" and "democratic multinationalism".

Global internationalism calls for the US to reach out and engage more constructively and systematically with countries with whom we currently experience various degrees of conflict and tension - China, Russia and Iran predominantly - and to develop broad-based global tools for problem solving and governance in areas of universal concern. This approach to international affairs would consciously de-emphasize political ideology and emphasize practical global problem solving, methods of governance, economic development, conflict management, non-proliferation and counter-proliferation, and the preservation of peace. It is based on the insight that preserving the peace and promoting global economic and environmental progress require recognizing and working with the fundamental sources of power in the world as they exist, not as we would like them to exist. It calls for a serious recommitment to the vision of international order articulated in the UN charter, but also for an updating and extention of that vision.

An alternative to global internationalism is the democratic multinationalism you described in your concert of democracies proposal. This approach privileges the world's democracies, and envisions a coordinated and potent democratic bloc that the US will increasingly rely on as the lever for advancing US goals, for collective security and for activist intervention in failed or criminal states. It will have an expanded and re-energized NATO as its military arm, and working vigorously through the bloc to spread liberal democratic government, and thus the domain of concert itself, will be part of the agenda.

Some might argue that we can follow both of these approaches at the same time, but I do think we have to choose. If one emphasizes an energetic concert of democracies, one will unavoidably weaken and deemphasize the UN and what's left of the broader international community, and create new conflicts that will undemine attempts at broader-based international cooperation. If one chooses instead to emphasize and give priority to global compacts and commitments, and global plans for cooperation and governance, such commitments are bound to interfere with, and limit the scope for, special side-arrangements with democratic allies. My own view is that the concert of democracies proposal is inherently divisive, and that despite the best intentions of its backers will almost certainly lead to a new Cold War of sorts among incresingly competing and polarized power blocs.

I think it is also important to emphasize that foreign policy cannot become too complicated - especially in a democracy like the US. One popular reaction to the simple-mindedness and crudeness of the Bush administration's policies, and Bush himself, has been for Democrats to empasize the complexity of foreign policy, even to the point of making a sort of religion out of complexity, ambiguity and intellectual difficulty. Foreign policy presents us with a "Rubik's cube" of entangled issues, as the report states. Perhaps. But while a single bureaucrat or team of bureacratic experts can address a problem on a Rubik's cube order of difficulty, the US body politic as a whole cannot. A foreign policy that is sustainable in a democratic society must be based on a few very simple ideas, organized around one central, readily intelligible vision.

Global internationalism calls for a reaffirmation of the dominant vision embodied in the UN charter: global cooperation aimed at improving the condition of mankind and avoiding the scourge of war, through a mutual commitment to the pricnciple of sovereign equality. This is a hard principle to sustain, because it requires us to treat other nations as equals, even when we think that, frankly, they are not our equals either politically, morally or in terms of power. But this vision is a truly idealistic vision - even if it is not the same kind of idealism that is emphasized by democratic multinationalists.

Many liberals hope to strengthen the global capacity for intervention in hideous humanitarian crises like Darfur and rwanda. But if one hopes to allow for the possibility of effective intervention in humanitarian crises or in failed states that are incapable of fulfilling the responsibility to protect, those interventions must have the broadest conceivable base of support and cooperation to be successful. If such interventions become the province of NATO or some other instrument of the concert of democracies, they will get only get further tangled up in geostrategic power struggles, and become a source of conflict rather than a means to the resolution of conflict.

Right now, the possibility of resolution of the crisis in Darfur is held up by various factors. But once of them is the role of China on the Security Council. The fact is that the US and China are engaged in great power competition for influence in North Africa, and thus neither country can regard interventions there by the other as merely benign humanitarian missions. There are two approaches to cutting the knot: cut China out of the picture by empowering NATO, by de-emphasizing the UN security council as the main source of international legitimacy in the area of armed intervention, and by investing moral and political legitimacy in the will of the concert of democracies. This, as I see it, is the ultimate aim behind the concert of democracies proposal.

The other approach is to work with China to lessen the debilitating influence of US-China competition on global affairs. Along these lines I have argued for a treaty-based regime for global resource management, cooperative development and trade which I called an "Global Energy Transition Treaty". Only if China and the US, and other important energy consumers as well, begin to manage their competition and reduce the tensions and machiavellian scheming it provokes, and also work with supplier nations on a negotiated square deal for them, can we prevent Africa from becoming just another great power gang-war battleground in the 21st century.

Both global internationalism and democratic multinationalism are liberal policies, and can be thought of as elaborations of the liberal internationalist tradition. But they tend to emphasize different aspects of that tradition. Global internationalism emphasizes liberal tolerance of other ways of life and other political systems, even if some of those other sytems are not themselves as tolerant as a good liberal might like. It also emphasizes peace through commitment to global governance on fundamental matters, and the rule of law - again two traditional ideals in the liberal international law tradition.

Democratic multinationalism is based on the expansion of liberalism, as a political ideology, throughout the international sphere, both among and within nations. This is obviously a liberal ideal, but one which exists in some tension with the first ideal.

Any thoughtful analysis of Mr. Bush's Farce Upon terror needs to look at his hypocritical defense of democracy, most notably his unprincipled alliance with Pakistan, and its dictator Musharraf, as well as his Faustian pacts with the nepotic kleptocracies of the Central Asian Steppes. The several year alliance with Uzbekistan is especially obscene, given its leader, Islam Karimov, the Butcher of Andijon.

The effects of Bush's Central Asian Policies have been egregiously overlooked by most US analysts and tanks with the exception of The Jamestown Foundation. Because of US policies in Central Asia, Hizb ut-Tahrir has been able to acquire significant credence, and more activist radical Muslim organisations have been able to recruit there. Moreover, Bush's claim of a right to unilateral preemption against terrorists has provided cover for unjust acts committed by these central Asian states, as well as Russia, and China. A counterproductive miserable failure.

It was a radical departure from America’s postwar liberal hegemonic orientation – and the world has bitten back.

Any such claim must start with a recognition that US's postwar policy in the Middle East cannot be characterised as liberal internationalism. It has been a matter of replacing the British as the imperial power, deposing heads of government in the interests of rents from oil exploration and accommodating the demands of well-organised US groups for the Jewish colonisation of Palestine. The US has never treated the Arab countries like it treated the European/NATO members. The Bush strategy has been a variant on the US's pre-existing non-liberal hegemony in the Middle East.

 Currently, and for several decades, the US foreign policy has been focused on what makes the most money for US corporations.  That has to cease.  No successful foreign policy can be based on making money for the powerful, very rich upper class in this country.  Such a foreign  policy was workable, but immoral, when most of the world lived in total poverty compared to the US and Europe.  But, it will be completely unworkable when China, India, Vietnam, and other former poverty stricken countries move up economically.

A factor that has been totally ignored in the push for "free trade" is that really free trade must lower the standard of living in the very well off countries, such as ours, just as it raises the standard of living in the poorer countries.  When jobs and investments move to where there is more money to be made, our country must suffer.  Our new foreign policy needs to account for this and work with it instead of using devious methods to fight it.

Many of our citizens, and most of our politicians like to claim that we are a "Christian" nation.  But, in doing that, they prefer not to have to live up to that claim.  I don't buy that we are a "Christian" or any other type of religious nation.  But, application of the principles of Christianity to foreign policy would be a good foundation.  And, a first for our nation. 

Hoppy in Sacramento

.  .  .  how deep is your critique?

Is Ikenberry the fourth Bee Gee?  Inquiring minds want to know.  

 

My own view is that the concert of democracies proposal is inherently divisive, and that despite the best intentions of its backers will almost certainly lead to a new Cold War of sorts among increasingly competing and polarized power blocs.
This may well be true.

But one must also consider whether the thought partners of this Democratic Multinationalism really are interested in their assigned role. Australia and the European Union seem also be more for engaging constructively with problematic nations rather than to wait for them to become democracies.

Maybe many of them don't even think of America as sufficiently democratic to be a member of such a club, let alone to regard oneself as its "leader".

My own guess is that the door to such a Democratic Multinationalism already is closed. Its success would presume that the events from the impeachment of Clinton to the "re-definition" of torture would soon be forgotten.

Many supporters of the Democrat Party seem to believe that America is conceptually so pure and good that the only rehabilitation needed would be a 51%-49% victory in the next elections. They do not only forget those 49%, they also forget how very few of the Democrats that in the last years have voiced any audible opposition and appeared as house-trained advocates of Democracy and/or international peace.

Maybe it will be forgotten in America.
- But elsewhere? That can be seriously doubted.

Of course the Arab's have barely had countries unlike the Europeans. They have had a series of tyrants whether monarchs or military strongmen. The Jews did not colonize Palestine rather they returned to their ancestral home by purchase and U.N. action.

America did not really replace the British. Post WWI the British and the French replace the Turks and establish colonies and countries under their domination. The United States has thrown its weight around the Middle East but if it was so dominant the U.S. would never have allow the Saudis to raise oil prices in the 70's or the Iranians to violate internation law by invading the U.S. embassy and kidnapping American diplomats.

U.S. policy in the Middle Easwt was basically to keep the Soviets out and oil flowing and anything Arab leaders wanted to do to their people was tolerated.

Daniel A. Greenbaum

I'll only comment on one of your points:

...if it was so dominant the U.S. would never have allow the Saudis to raise oil prices in the 70's...

You are making an assumption that there is a common interest in the US. This is false. There are competing interests. Raising oil prices helped one sector (the oil majors and their owners - like the Bush family) while hurting another (the man in the street). One of the reasons for discontent in the US these days is that the group whose interests are being promoted has shrunk down to be primarily the top 1%. There is enough spillover to the top 20% that (so far) we haven't had riots in the streets, but don't assume that government policies are the result of the popular will.

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I evolved from ancestors who once swam in the world's oceans. That does not give me any legal or moral or ethical or economic "right" to "return" to them now, claiming these bodies of water as my own, exclusive preserve.

The Romans obliterated Jerusalem in 70 A.D. because they grew tired of all the ceaselss vexation caused there by obstreperous tribes "chosen" by themselves to "choose" whatever they wanted from whomever couldn't stop them from stealing it. It has now become abundantly obvious why the Romans thought and acted as they did.

The last group of land-hungry European religious zealots who tried to colonize the Levant succeeded by divide-and-conquer strategies for a time but left after about two hundred years when the enraged and exploited natives put aside their own differences and united to expel the unwanted invader. One can still see crumbling relics of Crusader castle walls on hilltops here and there throughout the area. The latest group of land-hungry European religious zealots have managed through divide-and-conquer strategies to get to the wall-building stage after about sixty years -- approximately 25% of the previous record. This they have managed only because the current Roman empire hasn't tired yet of lavishly subsidizing their aggressive aggrandizement but will do so when the Empire itself faces decline and fall if it doesn't take off the training wheels and let the indigent interlopers fish or cut bait by themselves.

And let us not insult the intelligence of every sentient carbon-based life form on planet earth by invoking U.N. "support" for an outlaw aparthied "entity" that regularly disregards U.N. resolutions, like Lewis Carroll's White Queen, six times before breakfast every morning. The Zionist Aparthied Entity (or ZAE, for short) has nothing sustaining it but the transient "might" to exist. This in no way translates, however, to any innate "right" to do so. That, as the saying goes after sixty years, remains a matter for negotiations -- or some fed-up, exaperated Empire -- to decide.

Interesting thoughts, Hoppy. Clearly, the failed neocon projects in Iraq and Afganistan demonstrate the limits of what can be achieved with military force in the Muslim world. So I think your instinct towards globalization is the right one.

Capitalism, for all its warts, has been the most transformative "movement" of the last 100 years. In particular, capitalism presents perhaps the best antidote to Islamic fundamentalist we have left. For all of its evils, capitalism forces modernity upon cultures. In the case of harmless native cultures, forced modernity can be unfortunate. I don't think anyone would argue, however, that transforming the economies of countries like Afganistan and Pakistan so they look more like those of Turkey and Malaysia would be bad for the world. Such a change would require these nations to invest in their workers. Education, training, technology, and some good old capitalistic greed would help drain the swamp of jihad and replace it with something more predictable and consistent with western values.

The tougher nuts to crack are oil-cursed countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia. There is no incentive for the leaders of these countries to turn their workers into individual GDP-factories a la China and India, since oil provides all the money they need. Globalization won't penetrate these cultures effectively as long as they have oil revenues to rely on.

Finally, there is the issue of the environment. How can we reform globalization so that it doesn't create the pollution backlashes we see in India and China all over the world? I think a strong argument can be made that global warming and/or peak oil present dangers equal to any conventional enemy. So your national strategy will need to address this as well.

At some point, oil independence has to come up. Our burning of fossil fuels facilitates both greenhouse gases and radical Islam, so oil independence must sit at the center of any national strategy. If you can ween the world off of oil, you can start to penetrate the Middle East with globalization to "infect" the Muslim world with modernity...all while saving the planet from environmental catastrophe.

Here's my question: can the US and Western Europe reform the existing international institutions (UN, IMF, WTO) to make them effective tools in a progressive foreign policy that stresses markets in the Islamic world and oil independence across the globe?

(Please note, I'm really not a free market guy. My argument is actually quite pessimistic. It basically boils down to: capitalism is the only tool we have left. And criticisms aside, no one can deny its raw power...)

rdf,

You may be right. But even if you are, I think the world needs an intermediate step before adopting something as radical as a steady-state economic system. Namely, the West needs to marshal all the forces of capitalism and globalization and make a true effort at oil independence under the current system. As you say, it's about resources. If the world is going to adopt a radically different approach to resource consumption, it needs to start some place. Right?

Think of it this way: if the nations of the world make a concerted effort to find alternatives to fossil fuels, they may fail for the reasons you cite. But at least it will identify the problem in realistic, stark terms - with the world realizing the old way doesn't work, despite our very best efforts.

So let's start with the assumption that capitalism and the market-based economy will be around for a while. If that's the case, what's the first step? I would argue that it involves using the tools of globalization (UN, WTO, IMF) to attack the issue of alternative fuels. Unite the world in pursuit of independence from fossil fuels. It might not work, but it's a first step.

"The administration's strategy has been based, instead, upon four ideas:

1. the primacy of force;

2. the preservation of a unipolar order;

3. the unbridled exercise of U.S. power;

4. the right to initiate preventive war in the absence of immediate threats."

I think what was clear to many of us outside of the official policy circles was that the US while much stronger than every other nation militarily, fitting in many instances into the profile of a hegemon; was not strong enough to dominate the entire world- or even unwilling remote parts of it.

Having the ability to "pull the plug", as we have since the 1960's does not translate to total control, for while we have enormous strength, the leadership structures of this society inherently limit the amount of intelligence that can be placed behind that strength.

Our failures in Iraq translate entirely to this lack of organizational intelligence which I and many others feel is an inherent limitation in authoritarian or quasi-dictatorial control structures. As I have pointed out in other places the strongest advocates for the war, organization wise, also were the strongest groups for destroying any efforts to plan or execute Phase IV successfully- a requirement for a "successful" outcome.

To truly see what first principles failed we must start by examining all of the forces behind the failure of Phase IV and work backward toward the advocacy and desire for the war itself. Those who wanted it got exactly what they wanted to almost precise specifications. That many branches of our internal governing structures could predict the scope of the failure if not is shape and size from the moment the executive branch made clear its intention, speaks more to the problems inherent in trying to lead by authoritarianism in the complex, directly connected, and widely educated modern era.

The true failures of the Bush policy were in its lack of organizational intelligence, this bodes ill for the long term health and relevance of the many corporate bodies and other organized interests that planned and backed this venture, looking at strength as a primacy, rather than the intelligence needed to guide it.

The 21st century will be not about stockpiling arms, but rather stockpiling minds and helping them to work together efficiently. That China has seen this 3 decades before the US and that even now in the face of the first demonstrations of the obvious limitations of our physical power the ruling class has still not learned the lesson, focusing rather on the empty tenets of religions that failed to bring their followers any lasting legacy. I speak of course about those Hegellian fantasies that were repackaged by the wars salesman to make the above 4 quoted tenets to appear to be more than empty tautologies.

For all the discussion about the US relationship with our two traditional Cold War nemeses, I’m surprised there isn’t much discussion about our weakened position vis-à-vis extreme leftism much closer to home. At a time when the US should be looking optimistically forward to a post-Castro Cuba, the tide that has turned the political landscape in Latin America is threatening to keep the Cubans adrift and outside our influence well after Fidel passes from this Earth. We can certainly blame the Bush Administration’s myopic foreign policy for this unfortunate situation.

This administration’s inability to keep more than one foreign policy ball in the air at a time has left us with diminished influence in the Western Hemisphere and, were it not for a fraudulent election and a hurried inauguration yesterday, Mexico would have been the starkest indicator of Bush’s negligence. At the very least, even the most hand-over-flame loyalist neocons should be fuming that Ortega is now the duly elected president of Nicaragua and that Chavez will likely win himself another term this weekend. I suppose that’s what happens when you short change the State Department in its role in shaping foreign relations, instead relying upon bullying tactics like those Ollie North employed in the run-up to the other November surprise in Managua. Whether in an official or unofficial capacity, Ollie’s little stunt gave Ortega the added push from spiteful protest voters he needed to avoid a run-off, which would have been a more difficult challenge than the multi-party election he won.

It’s sad to think that south of the Rio Grande, our only reliable allies are the governments of a Colombia still mired in civil war—er, sectarian violence—and a Mexico that is far closer to a breaking point than the media or the Bush administration wants to let on. Not since the height of the Zapatista rebellion has Mexico been so close to all out civil war and we can only imagine what a Mexico walled-off from the U.S. will look like after two more years of incompetent, neglectful diplomacy.

Oh, and then there is the other unwinnable war that the Bush administration has badly mismanaged and to which recent elections in Peru and Bolivia testify: the War Against Drugs. A fractured Mexican state will only make matters worse and all the intimidation this White House can muster won’t make a dent in that problem, should the “parallel” Obrador government of the left decide that complicity in the drug trade is the best chance for waging effective resistance. For that matter, should the right take on a shape closer to that found in Bogata, we could be seeing a shift in the Drug War that brings Colombia right to our doorstep—all while the Bush administration considers its highest (and only) priority to be parsing the words “sectarian violence” and “civil war.”

Perhaps we should have a separate discussion on alternative fuels, but if you are interested in the topic there have been many such discussion on the European Tribune blog. To oversimplify: wind, solar and tide will only provide a small fraction (say 20%) of energy needs. None provide liquid fuels either. That leaves nuclear and coal for electricity and the unproven coal to oil technology for liquid fuel.

A much more workable (and less polluting) approach is conservation. Notice that the US has done nothing about improving vehicle mileage. Using existing technology in place in Europe we can halve our automobile gasoline consumption.

Another thing that could be done without abandoning capitalism would be to change the laws that manage corporations. Rather than having maximizing profit for stockholders as the only goal, consideration of working conditions and pollution and resource use could be added. What the exact form this would take could make another good topic for discussion.

We are also responsible for the rapacious actions of corporations. We, as investors in mutual funds and 401k plans, want the highest returns. People think that 10-15% return per year is reasonable and punish firms which don't reach this level. Actual returns over the long term are more like 8% which means firms are being driven to act in unsustainable ways - maximizing returns now at the expense of what can be done later.

If we had a better retirement system people wouldn't be so desperate for high returns.

--- Policies not Politics
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Please include:

5: unilateral hegemony can be achieved by reducing taxes.

6. no one at Yale gets drafted.

The Myth of HyperPower

Sometimes it makes me wanna blow my top! Just because America has the most sophisticated, well-stocked arsenal of killing devices ever assembled on God's sorry-assed earth does not mean America is powerful, unless we look at power as simply the ability to kill adversaries.

Real power is the ability to get one's adversaries to negotiate mutually beneficial agreeements, something that will never happen through the blunt use of military force. Bush and the neocons use military force as a substitute for the tough gritty work of actually negotiating with disagreeable, fractious nations that nonetheless have some measure of power to affect us. The ultimate weakness of the neocon ideal (now foolishly adopted by much of the American public) is the playground bully approach to international affairs. If you don't agree to our terms, we'll beat you up.

The important lesson of the Iraq war, for all its failed noble objectives, is that our war leaves America in a much worse position than we were in before we went in. While Saddam may have been a terrible adversary, untrustworthy and unsavory, the challenge for the US was to find a way to negotiate with or around him. Now that we have cleared him out we find we are still faced with an almost impossible negotiating task, and under far worse circumstances than Saddam ever posed. There may well be a place where application of our military might would be effective, but this is not it.

Iraq is the wind that blows the curtain of OZ open, it exposes the myth of American hyperpower. With all our technical wizardry and our power to kill, we wish we could simply skip over the rough and tumble human aspect of power, operate the levers of power, charm the world into believing our power to be inviolable, have them simply bow down before us, throwing flowers and sweets. It is a childish wish. It is an utterly mistaken idea. While some might bow before us as our tanks rumble through their streets and our jets roar overhead and our shock and awe bombs crackle on the night sky, most will find a way to fight back. Eventually it always boils down to negotiation, finding a way to coexist amid competing interests.

Making war on Iraq has done nothing to resolve issues, it has merely rearranged conditions. And they are demonstrably worse as a direct result of making war.

War is the problem. Not Iraqi intransigence. Not failed strategies. Not bad intelligence. War. War waged by an American public intoxicated with the Myth of Hyperpower. What good is war?

Perhaps but it did not help the Carter Administration and it help drive the U.S. economy into stagflation. The latter wasn't really good for anyone including the oil companies. Among others things it led to the windfall profits tax.


I actually that government policy in the U.S. has far less to do with corporate intersts that popular will. Furthermore, corporate interests are just part of the public will.

Daniel A. Greenbaum

You said:

Furthermore, corporate interests are just part of the public will.

I think you will find many people who disagree with you on this point. People don't get to express their will on corporate behavior. The closest they come is the ability to sell the stock (if they own any) in a company which they don't like. We don't elect the managers of corporations. Even the boards are essentially self-perpetuating. The number of times a board is replaced by the stockholders can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

Corporations do get to buy politicians and then get them to put policies in place which provide direct benefit. Perhaps this latest election will lead to more people being elected without major corporate backing, but that still remains to be seen. As long as elections are as expensive as they are only big business will be able to fund them. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

Over 40% of workers polled say they would join a union if they were given the chance. How is this public will being expressed?

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Something that approximates steady-state is necessary in the short run, and must be permanent for Earth as a locale, if its resources are not to be exhausted. But the main input to economic activity is population, and without controlling that, Earth will be exhausted, sooner or later.

Humans will move off-planet, and economic activity will be open-ended, but Earth will be a landfill. I expect that a global consensus on preserving Earth will only occur after it is severely damaged, and only after a long time of exploitation of Solar System resources.

The only way to stop exhausting the Earth is to stop competition. Since that is deeply genetic, only an external threat will overcome internal competition. That likely will come from off-planet economies competing effectively, and possibly moving to take control of Earth. The latter would unify Earth's inhabitants.

The reasonable hope is to slow the exhaustion of Earth. I don't know if it is better to press for sustainability that won't be achieved, hoping for something close, or to aim for something directly achievable. My feeling is that the very techniques that yield cheap renewable energy and less waste (saving money) are the same that reduce overall resource use. It's actually fortunate that fusion is no magic bullet. As has been pointed out, too much cheap energy means easier exploitation of resources. Reality will force conservation and caution in resource exploitation, eventually, and the sooner we press incentives the better.

Excellent point, Hoppy:
"Many of our citizens, and most of our politicians like to claim that we are a "Christian" nation. But, in doing that, they prefer not to have to live up to that claim. I don't buy that we are a "Christian" or any other type of religious nation. But, application of the principles of Christianity to foreign policy would be a good foundation. And, a first for our nation."

As a poet, I'm reminded of what Joseph Campbell wrote back in 1949 in his classic, The Hero with a Thousand Faces. In the following quote, Campbell addresses this very point. He's discussing the effect of rites of initiation. He emphasizes the ingroup/outgroup dichotomy, with particular reference to Christianity. Upon the completion of the rite,

"....A new and larger paradise is thus established. But this paradise does not include the traditional enemy tribes, or races, against whom aggression is still systematically projected. All of the "good" father-mother content is saved for home, while the "bad" is flung abroad and about: 'for who is this uncircumcise'd Philistine, that he should defy the armies of the living God?' [ I Samuel, 17:26]. 'And slacken not in following up the enemy: if ye are suffering hardships, they are suffering similar hardships; but ye have hope from Allah, while they have none.' [Koran 4:104]

"Totem, tribal, racial, and aggressively missionizing cults represent only partial solutions of the psychological problem of sub¬duing hate by love; they only partially initiate. Ego is not annihilated in them; rather, it is enlarged; instead of thinking only of himself, the individual becomes dedicated to the whole of his society. The rest of the world meanwhile (that is to say, by far the greater portion of mankind) is left outside the sphere of his sympathy and protection because outside the sphere of the protection of his god. And there takes place, then, that dramatic divorce of the two principles of love and hate which the pages of history so bountifully illustrate. Instead of clearing his own heart the zealot tries to clear the world. The laws of the City of God are applied only to his in-group (tribe, church, nation, class, or what not) while the fire of a perpetual holy war is hurled (with good conscience, and indeed a sense of pious service) against whatever uncircumcised, barbarian, heathen, "native," or alien people happens to occupy the position of neighbor.['For hatred does not cease by hatred at any time: hatred ceases by love, this is an old rule' (from the Buddhist Dhammapada, 1:5; “Sacred Books of the East," Vol. X, Part I, p. 5; translation by Max Müller)].

"The world is full of the resultant mutually contending bands; totem-, flag-, and party-worshipers. Even the so-called Christian nations—-which are supposed to be following a "World" Redeemer-—are better known to history for their colonial and internecine strife than for any practical display of that unconditioned love, synonymous with the effective conquest of ego's world, and ego's tribal god, which was taught by their professed supreme Lord: 'I say unto you, Love your enemies; do good to them which hate you. Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you" [ Luke, 6:27-36]' (The Hero with a Thousand Faces, 2nd edition, pp. 156-157).

Wasn't it Fleischman, the doctor on the TV show Northern Exposure, who said, "C'mon, people! Have we forgotten our comparative mythology?" I'm afraid so.

As Campbell never tired of saying, a myth is not a lie, it's a metaphor: a vehicle for going from ignorance to understanding. The present dominant American myth, Manifest Destiny by name, would have us believe that the slave ships of old actually were pleasure cruises. The Bush Administration would have us believe that anyone who dares question them, like Helen Thomas, is in league with the terrorists, if not the devil himself.

I think the comic genius of Colbert and Stewart comes from their showing us that our leaders actually are grotesque parodies of the real thing. Stewart and Colbert are faithfully discharging the duty Campbell explicitly gave to artists of all kinds: to "render to us an experience of the transcendent in terms of the world in which we're living" [from the film Sukhavati: Place of Bliss]. Their comedy serves as a potent antidote to propaganda.

Oddly enough, physics and Christ's message have a lot in common. He was crucified for preaching that "I and the Father are one." Ever since Einstein's dramatic revelation of relativity, which spurred the claim that "God is dead," we've known that there really is no absolute, eternal divide one thing from another. So Divinity is not dead, only the mistaken belief that it is always 'out there,' never 'in here.'

But one reads every day of the calamitous effects of an adamant belief in this divide, e.g., the "chasm" between Shia and Sunni in Iraq, "cracks" in the system, gaps of all kinds we must somehow bridge. We believe in a fractured universe in which spurious divides actually exist. We see the universe as if looking through a windshield infinitely cracked.

Unity, not division, is the basis of existence, making compassion, not competition, the proper basis for human relations.

An insoluble belief that, somehow, somewhere, 'I' stop and 'you' start is at the root of all conflict. According to this belief, since 'I' am not 'you,' then 'your' pain is not 'mine.' Christ was crucified for denying this divide. In the 9th century, Halaj was crucified by Islam for saying the same thing. The poet Rumi most eloquently expresses the same insight.

Bush is described as being in a "bubble." So as a dutiful poet, I submit the following knock-knock joke in the effort to burst it:

KNOCK-KNOCK!
(who's there???)
DIVINITY!
(divinity who?)
KNOW! DIVINITY YOU!

I think you are far to pessimistic. If it is the best interests of other nations to forgive and firget the excesses of the Bush administration, then they will be forgiven and forgotten, just as the misdeeds of the various European powers, who within living memorty held vast areas of the planet in thrall, have been forgiven and forgotten.

It wouldn't be nice to rob you of your hope.

But consider what kind of purification those nations have gone through, and how long time it's still has taken to get forgiven - let alone be considered equally good.

The Germans are on their way. The Russians not so. The perception of the Italians remain that of an immature nation. And that despite them all, back then, being ruled by dictators.

France and Britain would be the counterexamples, but they did their purification, and they had the good taste to be nicer to culturally kindred nations.

I'm not sure I see your point. As the saying goes, nations have interests, not friends. The US has done some unpleasant things of late, though they are hardly our first sins (see: slavery, genocide against Native Americans, lots of Latin American stuff, Vietnam), but these are also pretty normal sins for large, powerful countries and one can find their like in the history of just about any major nation that is as old as the US.

My point may be that it's not the Bush-administration's sinns that will cause most long-term disadvantage on U.S. goodwill and standing in the world, but the spineless institutional and political opposition and the appearance that the American constitutional system didn't stand the test.

By the way:
States have interests, not friends.

Nations, on the other hand, have a collective memory.

I do not at all disagree with you with regard to other empires.

However, very few democratic nations, major or not, have a track record as bad, and the alienating aspect is exactly the steps away from the tradition of democracy.

"The U.S. must now start again. It must design a foreign policy for the current age. In doing so, it should discard almost everything the Bush administration has proclaimed.“

In some ways, there is nothing to discard.

The marketing for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq was based upon responding to states of emergencies. At the time these actions were being “discussed”, much scorn was heaped upon those who questioned whether what was being proposed would lead to a beneficial result. The administration dismissed the discussion because there was no time for it.

In retrospect, the hubris of those who were glossy with contempt for those who tried to imagine the rigors of reconstruction looks like a straightforward example of the blinkers of ideology counting unhatched chickens. But what handed the Bush administration the baton wasn’t the assurance that we would be greeted as liberators but that we didn’t have the luxury to wonder might happen.

So in the midst of declaring the prerogatives of being the last superpower standing, the need for the U.S. to defend the emerging global order, and trumpeting the benefits that multinational corporations can provide to backward peoples, the essential core of the Bush Doctrine is based upon an idea of powerlessness and surrender. The demands of the moment overrule everything. The presence of a clear and present danger means that over-thinking is irresponsible.

So going in a fundamentally different direction isn’t just about rejecting the excesses of a particular set of officials but creating a space for cognition and developing the advantges that only patience and prudence can provide.

Any new, successful, foreign policy will have to be based on acknowledging and working towards rectifying the legitimate grievances of those exploited and marginalized by past policy, whether intended, such as interventions supporting private capital ( Im thinking United Fruit throughout the Carribean,Phillipines, minerals in S America, oil development all over,you get the picture) or "liberal"in nature, such as development loans, or ideological like "democracy building" in Chile and Guatemala and Iraq and Nicaragua and present day Colombia.

Reparations must include elimination of all odious dept coupled with development grants paid for by a Tobin tax on all financial transactions and a return to a progressive tax code.We must normalize relations with Cuba and Iran and place primary emphasis on a just settlement and viable state for Palestinians. Next in importance would be nuclear disarmament,including Israel and India and then serious commitment to reducing CO2. Thats a start.

Taking the premise that "Our foreign policy is an extension of our domestic policy" for granted, it is indeed inward that we should look. There is a debate about the nature of our democracy and whether it has come to be secondary--if not even an extension--to our form of capitalism. In any case, few would deny that domestically we are driven by unbridled consumerism in the service of the business of business: larger and larger profits. Given that this state of affairs here in our country cannot be "spread throughout the world" because of the sheer physical impossibility of it (consider the resources that would be required) it is rather absurd to pretend that that's what we are up to. We will need to radically change our way of life here before we begin preaching to the world how things should be over there. Alternatively we can squarely admit that what we are up to is not some quasi-moral crusade, but an old-fashioned power grab, or, perhaps a sufficiently commodious place in the hierarchy of the future.

While on the subject of the Americas south of the USA, it is also relevant to ponder how an American President managed to be such a miserable failure in our own back-yard. A miserable failure indeed, for how else can one describe an administration so incompetent it lost, and continues to lose a class-based dialectic debate to a South American socialist politician in the Post-Soviet reality?

Mexico has been a BuShambles also. After Vincente Fox's won against the PRI, Bush started out well, engaging in a dialogue regarding cross border issues, including immigrant workers, but Post-911, he seemed to ignore Fox's overtures, and play pure pro politics, pandering to the prejudiced GOP base. It left Fox's hind-end waving in the breeze, and caused the Mexican citizenry to quickly become disenchanted with the first political party change in Mexico for 70 years. In Mexico, as in most of the Countries South of the USA, Bush's foreign policies have caused a heavy political shift to the hard left, as well as a great loss of esteem for America.

It is not hard to understand one of the main underlaying causes for the ill wind of political change: it is the Return of the Iran/Contra Racketeers, who just happen to also be NeoConnivers. Negroponte, and Abrams should have never been allowed to hold prominent positions in any US Administration again.

Another failure is policy towards Cuba, For the large majority of my life, America has caused great pain and suffering to the people of Cuba, because of Fidel Castro. I firmly believe that it is these counterproductive sanctions which has enabled Castro to remain in control. Any and all of Cuba's woes, are not the result of discredited ideologies, you see; but are instead the fault of the USA's imperialist policies. After the fall of the Soviet, we should have opened up free trade avenues with Cuba. Let them sell their Sugar and Rum, freely upon the open market, in a process antithetical to Communist Ideals. Let them receive a fair price in hard currencies for the exchange. When the Cuban people realise how little of this windfall had managed to trickle down into their pockets, their dissatisfaction would have begun to increase. Instead, Fidel approaches his death, and there looks to be an almost nil change of political regime change after it occurs.

Cheney has still yet to be publicly flogged for advancing the 'Salvador' option in Iraq during the '04 election:

"Twenty years ago we had a similar situation in El Salvador. We had -- guerrilla insurgency controlled roughly a third of the country, 75,000 people dead, and we held free elections. I was there as an observer on behalf of the Congress.

The human drive for freedom, the determination of these people to vote, was unbelievable. And the terrorists would come in and shoot up polling places; as soon as they left, the voters would come back and get in line and would not be denied the right to vote.

And today El Salvador is a whale of a lot better because we held free elections.

The power of that concept is enormous. And it will apply in Afghanistan, and it will apply as well in Iraq."

Dick Cheney, Vice Presidential Debate with John Edwards, October 5, 2004, Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio

This was a rather terrorising proposition, but very few pundits have pointed it out.

Throughout the Bush presidency, there has been another miserable failure in his policies to the South. Bush's unconscionable unitary focus on a singularity; the assuagement of his deep-seated Oedipal neurosis by waging War Upon Iraq, and deposing Saddam Hussein, the evidence notwithstanding, enabled China to waltz into S. America, and contract with many nations for the future production of natural resources, as well as many future agricultural products, mostly soy beans. This occurred during Bush's first term, when manufacturing in the US had slowed down, creating slack in the supply lines from S. America to the North. Hu Jintao walked onto our home field, and literally kicked our asses playing our own game by our own rules. It also gives China an advantageous place to dump their excess of US dollars, and puts South America in an even more precarious position, should the dollar ever tumble. All the while China whispers into their ears;

"Little Brothers,
we are much gentler than the USofA
when we pillage and rape...
now say Che, not Cheney."

Most Americans are still unaware, and when they are rudely awakened from their arrogant naivete, and discover that Hu owns you, me, and every thee in between, and then realise that All Our Credit Are Belong to the PRC, they're gonna be mighty pissed, but I can guarantee you that the NeoCons will have already renounced their past ties, and will be on the other side, pointing their fingers of blame.

After Mr. Bush's reelection, in an effort to provide hope to his supporters, he promoted the very administration member who should have been watching out for our economic interests, US Trade Representative, Robert Zoellick, to be Deputy Secretary of State. Contemporary Conservatives breathed a collective sigh of relief, as Mr. Bush once again proved to them with his promotions, that the Peter Principle is nothing but an urban myth...people can be, and will be promoted past their level of incompetence.

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"I'm the master of low expectations.
I think we accomplished
what I hoped we would accomplish,
but I don't think we necessarily exceeded expectations.
I think 'met expectations' is a better way to put it
."

GW Bush on Airforce One - 2003.06.04
quoted from:
"Bush Flying High in Air Force One"
LA Times - 2003.06.05


Re: the spineless institutional and political opposition and the appearance that the American constitutional system didn't stand the test.

Which explains why the GOP swept this year's selections, yes.
It's only been six years since George Bush took office. Corrections take time (slavery endured for decades after the nation was formed; "Jim Crow" for nearly a century) but it is now underway.

Re: However, very few democratic nations, major or not, have a track record as bad

Britain. The Netherlands. France. All three were democratic (ignoring ceremonial monarchies in the first two) and intensely imperialistic. British behavior in Ireland alone, from Drogheda to the Potato Famine, trumps anything the US has done lately.

Re: Ever since Einstein's dramatic revelation of relativity, which spurred the claim that "God is dead,"

"God is dead" was stated by Nietzsche well before the Theory of Relativity came along. Einstein's theory, which is much misunderstood by those lacking a background in such things, has no theological ramifactions that I know of

How deep is deep? Would it go too far to wonder whether anybody's "foreign policy" is ever a good idea, insofar as that language implies working by some generality and not treating each case strictly on its own merits?

Should we decide not to sink quite that far under the surface, it looks to me as if the Bushies have been so busy trying to justify and salvage their neo-Iraq with any claptrap that comes to hand that they've rather lost sight of their own (alleged) Fourfold Way. Similarly, when they talk about maybe attacking Iran, they never (that I've noticed) try to discuss nuclear nonproliferation in general terms

Why, then, should their critics do so either?

The question is a real one and not a rhetorical one, but I do admittedly cherish certain low nominalist doubts about the lofty Platonic Form of Policy.

Happy days.

Bush's unconscionable unitary focus on a singularity [...] enabled China to waltz into S. America, and contract with many nations for the future production of natural resources, as well as many future agricultural products, mostly soy beans. This occurred during Bush's first term, when manufacturing in the US had slowed down, creating slack in the supply lines from S. America to the North. Hu Jintao walked onto our home field, and literally kicked our asses playing our own game by our own rules.

This has been the blindspot in the media that only the foreign policy and foreign trade wonks seem to be aware of.This article from Political Affairs Magazinepointed out as early as February 2005 the many economic fronts on which the U.S. has lost ground to China in South America. It seems to me that the U.S., and especially the Bush Administration, have over-estimated the impact of the loss of the Soviet Union upon leftism, and under-estimated the ability of a power like China to resuscitate leftism by offering their own brand of socialist capitalism.

It's a shame that Bush 41 and Bush 43 don't have an open dialog about current policy issues; if there is a front where the current administration could use the former's counsel, it is in developing a consistent, unitary stance vis-a-vis Mexico. The senior Bush's experience as CIA director should give him the ability to soberly assess the inauspicious inauguration he attended in Mexico City a couple days ago. Even though entering the halls of Congress to take the oath of office is a largely ceremonial act, one would imagine that GHWB must have been struck by the circus like manoevering necessary to carry out this ceremony. It's hard to acknowledge victory for a party that has to rely upon trickery and a swift exit for the appearance of rule of law. Can anyone imagine a U.S. president being sneaked in and out of the inauguration ceremony? Even post 9/11?

Maybe the ultimate reason the Shrubbery refuses to pull out of Iraq is that our presence there keeps the media focused on that front. Once the foreign affairs spotlight pulls back and casts an angle wider than even Fahreed Zakaria's, we're going to see just how much weaker the U.S. stands in the world after Bush.

"The primacy of force; the preservation of a unipolar order; the unbridled exercise of U.S. power; and the right to initiate preventive war in the absence of immediate threats." I'd note two other assumptions. One is the assumption that threats come from states, often cited by administration critics as the reason that the threat was discounted before 9/11., that the focus shifted so quickly to Iraq, and that Bush even now keeps thinking of the insurgency as Al Qaeda. In effect, first Bush's had to ignore bin Laden because he wasn't Iraq; then they had to elevate Al Qaeda to something they recognized, a Mideast state power and the first of many dominos we could hope to topple; and now that abstract entity has to remain the enemy, even after Hussein is gone from power and so many others have taken up arms against so many factions that even wiser commentators can lose track.

The second is the unbridled executive power to declare and conduct war, with the identification of the president with America. If that takes a little secrecy, torture, and spying on American citizens, it's all in Yoo's and Gonzales's imagined Constitution. If that excuse doesn't hold up, the Constitution isn't everything. After all, rights are abstract, but threats are concrete. Think of how just this week the little outburst at that Muslim incoming member of Congress got put in those terms. Well after the debunking of the whole idea that anyone is sworn in on a book, I turned on the evening news to watch the idiot interviewer gently challenging the pundit on whether the poor fellow who didn't happen to be Christian had rights, too, with the response that rights is one thing but America is what has to be preserved. The response is bad enough; the frame that allows the response is just as scary. 

Of course, as others have noted, the line between abusive foreign and domestic policy thus gets a bit slippery in practice.

John

http://www.haberarts.com/

Jew-haters like Mr. Murray can drop dead.

Even figurative threats are not welcome.

I will point out the obvious, that hating Israel's actions is not equivalent to hating Jews. Mr. Murry could equally be called a Christian-hater, or a Roman- or American-hater.

Are you a non-Jew-hater? 

 

There are two relevant remarks that can be made to this.

1.
What do you consider as requirements for democracy?
When did Britain and the Netherlands become democratic nations?

The important point here is not that one view may be "right" or another "wrong," but that the answer may support Olofsson's initial statement that maybe many of them don't even think of America as sufficiently democratic to be a member of such a club, let alone to regard oneself as its "leader".

2.
The other point would be along the line of And why do you take note of the grain of dust in your brother's eye, but take no note of the bit of wood which is in your eye?

Any listing of comparable crimes against foreign nations would be long and bothersome, but it can hardly be imagined that democratic Britain, France or Holland comes anywhere close to the democratic United States in that disheartening competition.

What the Netherlands, France and Britain has done is dissassembling their colonial and/or imperial realms, and in my opinion not quite without honour.

The least honorable was probably France's Algerian War, and de Gaulle's Fifth Republic of France is if not exactly the kind of purification Olofsson refers to, an expression for the related state of commonly recognized need for radical change and re-focus.

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It's pretty obvious that heavyweights of the Democrat Party are not yet speaking in favor of any kind of purification that would come even close to the transition from France's Forth to Fifth Republics.

/Tuomas

L.J.Runstein

The answer in regards to a serious recommitment to the vision of international order articulated in the UN charter, but also for an updating and extension of that vision is this:

Global Internationalism would certainly be the way to go and would require a "new" UN Treaty, specifically a "Peoples Cultural Preservation Treaty".

The idea is to preserve the old (ancient cultures) while continuing with (economic progress) global modernization. This paralleled aspect suggests that 'Culture' oversees 'economic progress', while 'economic progress' respects and regards the established culture's laws it resides to support economically.

In this, opposites not only attract, but can help sustain global cooperation and peace. The message is clear, we will always need the old as well as the new, regardless of the ideals and beliefs that inhabit our world singularly or collectively.

The European Union do both!

Some people would find it hard to see a dichotomy between promoting democracy and working with problematic states. They would say it's exactly by engaging the less democratic countries, that the threats they present can be hoped to be defused. Promotion of democracy is not only by neoconservatives believed to be beneficial, but many others would stress it must be pursued delicately and indirectly rather than as a centerpiece of policy. [The aspiring members of the European Union may be seen as an exception, but it mustn't be forgotten that Democracy is only one of dozens of areas where new member states are required to harmonize with the community.]

It's promising if more and more American voices start to see democracy as a long process, not a state, concluding that many components are needed as a basis for sound democracy. Rule of Law and Equality before the law may be one of the most fundamental. Liberties, with regard to opinion, education, trade, and ownership are so too, and in many's opinion economic inequalities may be considered harmful for a democratic development.

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I can't comment on the Far East that, unfortunately, is off my radar.

/Tuomas

I'll forgo the crack regarding PA; generally I consider them to be less than a credible primary source, but this article was actually lifted from The Council on Hemispheric Affairs (COHA), which I consider to be fairly credible with analysis, and very credible when citing facts. Still, even this article was a little slow coming; a mite bit more than three months after the APEC meet in Chile. COHA offered a pretty decent analysis right after APEC, 2004 though:

"The Sizzle vs. the Steak: APEC Summit in Santiago Global Ties vs. Latin Connections Chile Struts its Stuff", Council of Hemispheric Affairs, Press Release, November 22, 2004

For that meeting, Hu Jintao showed up early and swept through South America picking up what he was able to. Bush, still aglow from his recent reelection showed up for one day of photo-ops, braggadocio, and an anti-Pyongyang agreement of nugatory worth.

The import wasn't missed by the People's Daily, even though they chose to spin it out as a win/win situation.

The White House website listing of November 20, 2004, offers a bit of illumination.

Bush: It was my honor to have spent some quality time with my friend, the leader of our strong ally, Japan. I enjoyed visiting with the Prime Minister. He's a man of clear vision and inner strength.

We covered a wide range of subjects, including the North Korean Peninsula and Iraq. I also explained to him that my nation is committed to a strong dollar, and I assured him that in my upcoming contacts in working with Congress, we'll work to reduce our short-term and long-term deficit.

It was a great conversation.

"President Bush's Remarks with Prime Minister Koizumi of Japan", Hyatt Regency Santiago, Santiago, Chile, November 20, 2004

I guess the subjects didn't range as wide as China's aggressive economic foray into the Western Hemisphere.

Bush: We also agreed to further strengthen our nation's export controls and to develop a new system to track and stop the travel of suspected terrorists using forged or stolen documents. Through the Proliferation Security Initiative, many nations are also fighting the trade in deadly weapons. And over the past years we've had notable successes -- most particularly, the disruption of the A.Q. Khan network and its willingness and capacity to spread deadly technology to nations that would like to inflict harm on the -- on -- to inflict harm on nations like APEC members.

Five APEC members are working to convince North Korea to abandon its pursuit of nuclear weapons, and I can report to you today, having visited with the other nations involved in that collaborative effort, that the will is strong, that the effort is united and the message is clear to Mr. Kim Jong-il: Get rid of your nuclear weapons programs.

"President's Remarks at CEO Summit Closing Session", Casa Piedra, November 20, 2004

The A.Q. Khan network reference is an outright deceit, as the Bush Admin had previously tried to pin Pakistan's retransfer of N. Korean tech to Libya, as solely the act of N. Korea, when the facts indicate that Pyongyang had been duped by Pakistan and were unaware that they intended to middleman the tech. Here, at his keynote at an Economic summit, Bush instead chose to toot his war horn. The best indication of Bush's miserable failure at the November, 2004 APEC summit is his photo op with Hu Jintao. Secret Service didn't leave him alone with Jintao, did they?

Bush: Mr. President, thank you for this very frank exchange. I told the President that I look forward to working with him over the next four years to continue our close work on keeping peace, peace on the Korean Peninsula and peace throughout the Pacific region, and to spread peace throughout the world. And I'm looking forward to working with him on those matters.

We also spent time talking about our economic relationships, about how we'll work over the next four years to continue to spread prosperity to both our people, to make sure the relationship is fair and equitable on both sides.

"President Bush's Remarks with Chinese President Hu Jintao", The Hyatt Regency Hotel, Santiago, Chile, November 20, 2004

The wonks and weasels were for the most part slow on acquiring their enlightenment:

  • Jamestown Foundation got it right off, but then nobody but Wonks Acutely Dependant on Sources (WADS) pay attention to them
  • It took Hoover Institution's paranoia a few months to bubble up through their their thick skulls
  • The House of Representatives began their long and winding road to cluefullnes in April, 2004
  • Bush's Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs Roger F. Noriega, started answering questions in April, 2004 too. Where had he been for 6 months? Was he even on the job?

Unless you are referring to some point of initiation in these studies, 2004 is a bit early. The House report carries the date April 6, 2005 and the Noriega statements come from that period as well. This all makes sense considering Hu Jintao's whirlwind tour of Latin America was November 2004. Chavez visited Beijing the next month.

I found this bit from Noriega's statment rather surprising:

China is not only importing more raw materials from the Western Hemisphere, but it is also making significant investments in the region. The Chinese Ministry of Commerce estimates the cumulative total of Chinese investment in Latin America as of the end of 2003 was US$4.62 billion, accounting for 14 percent of China's total cumulative realized outward investment. Preliminary Ministry figures estimate that 46 percent of China's 2004 foreign investment was in Latin America and the Caribbean, adding another $1.7 billion to the total.

For a really eye-opening piece of fluff, check out this interactive map from the BBCIn an interesting turn on the Red State/Blue State theme, South America is looking awfully pink. Save for some Florida-style ballot reporting, Mexico would be, too.

Thanks, I've seen the BBC map. Iwas actually angry about this real time in Nov. 2004. I may have been overly sarcastic posting, but much of what i wrote is sourced. Here's an interesting link, I haven't shared much:

Andre Gunder Frank, "MEET UNCLE SAM - WITHOUT CLOTHES - PARADING AROUND CHINA AND THE WORLD", January 6th 2005

It's a part of the RRojas database, largely the work of Dr. Róbinson Rojas PhD, and if the link new to you, I guessing you'll find a few items worth reading. A different perspective angle from most American economics and political analysis. I'm not saying I agree with even the majority of it, but it's a nice hole for datadiving now and again...

No harm done. I'll readily acknowledge my own dilletantism and wear it as a badge to further indict this administration's gross negligence in conducting foreign policy beyond a very narrow set of objectives. If all one had to go by was this White House, one would think that all American foreign relations go through Asia. Even then, as we've been discussing, at some point they should come back to the Western Hemisphere to realize they have more to be concerned about than an ill-defined war on terror.

The thing that pisses me off the most is that Bush and Condi have been given a golden opportunity to set the table for a post-Fidel thaw in Cuban-American relations. Yet, because we're so bogged down in the Middle East militarily and in the Far East economically, they don't have enough time to exploit it. Say what you want about Castro, but Clinton's handling of the Elian Gonzalez incident, in the end, was an opening into better dialog. By contrast, from the beginning this administration has been about rachetting up the tension and rolling back all good will with Cuba, as if that was all it took to win the Cold War and therefore should be employed everywhere.

They (Bush and Co.) bungled the diplomacy end of the coup against Chavez, they've been blind as South America turns left and away from Washington, and they were out to lunch as Ortega reclaimed power in Nicaragua. For a bunch that tried to do a gross mimcry of Reagan in foreign relations, they've managed to undo most of the security we thought we had won in 1990-1. Russia is again a growing threat, the new Asian economic bogeyman is more menacing than Japan ever was, and now Latin America finds China a more honest trading partner than the U.S. I don't think the reckoning has even begun for Bush as a foreign policy failure.

a minor point:

It's a mistake to believe that republics per definition have to be more democratic than monarchies. The crucial point is if the constitution has democratic legitimacy and whether it's upheld or not. Un-prosecuted breaches against the constitution have most recently been a feature of the United States.

People who consider Britain during the Potato Famine (where only males, and only those males with sufficiently large holdings, had suffrage) to have been a democracy have a lot lower requirements for democracies than anyone I have ever talked to.

For the rest, I agree very much with Laurila's earlier comment.

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