Big Lie: The Dems Didn't Win, The GOP Lost
By now everyone has heard the mantra. The Democrats did not get a positive mandate last week. The voters didn't vote FOR them; they voted against Republicans.
What a load of crap.
Every major shift in American political history has been kicked off by a vote AGAINST the in party rather than for the OUTS.
The Democrats imploded in 1860 over slavery enabling the Republicans to win and stay in power for most of the next 72 years.
Republican ascendancy ended when FDR and the Democrats won in 1932. FDR was an unknown quantity (who pretty much stood for nothing in '32) but he and the Dems were the alternative to Hoover and the GOP. He used that "negative" mandate to remake America.
Democratic hegemony lasted for 20 years until Eisenhower came in (Truman's popularity was at 23% which defeated would-be Dem successor, Adlai Stevenson). "Had Enough, Vote Republican," was the slogan and a winning one.
In 1968, the new Republican majority emerged due to disgust with LBJ, the Viet war and a giant racist backlash that turned the solid Dem south to the solid GOP south. Nothing positive about that shift!
Then there was 1992 when Bill Clinton won because of the massive vote against the first Bush which split between Clinton and Perot. That election was all about Bush. Clinton won 43%. 57% voted against Bush.
And so on.
The big GOP victory in 1994 was not pro-Republican. It was anti-Clinton, especially anti-Hillary (following months of GOP lying about her health care plan).
Then there is '06.
Our mandate is no different than every other
massive shift in American politics throughoutr our history. I can think of no watershed election that was positive rather than negative.
Bottom line. The Dems won a landslide as solid as any in our history. Get used to it.
















Low standards are easy to meet.
Max B. Sawicky
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November 13, 2006 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it is an understatement to proclaim the Republicans have screwed up enough to cause a backlash. As an American, I am ashamed at how many voters stayed the course.
November 13, 2006 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Things have changed below the surface, for example in NY-25 (Syracuse) it was R=92% D=9% in 2004, this time it was R=51% D=49%. That's a pretty big swing in a region that has been Republican for decades.
If the Dems had expected to win they could have devoted more effort to races like this. The same thing may be true on the state level. The pols in NY have had a split the graft deal for decades, the Republicans control the state senate and the Dems the house. However if the NY Dem party had been willing to do some leg work they might have turned things around riding on Spitzer's tailcoat.
Another thing to consider is that the house chairmen will be those who have been around the longest, that is old time progressive Dems like Charlie Rangel. These are the people who will set the tone for the new congress. Freshman don't get much say in any case.
The Republicans have a vested interest in minimizing the degree of shift in voter sentiment. The same is true for the conservative or centrist Dems. We will see what happens when the horses are saddled up.
--- Policies not Politics
Daily Landscape
November 13, 2006 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm in the Onion camp--
"Republicans Blame Election Losses on Democrats"
November 13, 2006 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
While I do believe the Democrats won, even against the odds of jerrymandering and voter suppression in some areas, how do you call what we have a MANDATE?
That word is over-used to the point of absurdiity these days. Bush used it when he LOST the popular vote, and again when he squeaked out a questionable win in 2004.
Be realistic. A mandate is when you win by a landslide. We won. We should be very happy about that, but a mandate? No.
Jan Knaus
November 13, 2006 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
the exact same evidence yields the exact opposite conclusion, if you choose to look at it that way.... like you said, what a load of crap.
November 13, 2006 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe we have a mandate, maybe we do not. What was clear though was that Americans are sick of the course in Iraq, I among them. However I did not vote for a timed withdrawl of the troops. I voted for a change and what is best for the peace and stability of the world. Getting out of Iraq without bringing peace and stability to the people is not the solution. Nor was staying the course. We need more troops for the short term. Secure the peace, then leave. Nobody is talking about what is best for the people. We do not need to have another Vietnam. If that is the case, the Democrats will wasted a well earned victory and will be returned to the minority in a hurry in 08.
November 13, 2006 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Danielus writes; "the exact same evidence yields the exact opposite conclusion, if you choose to look at it that way...."
You are right, Daniel, but only if you know don't know American history. But go ahead, make the case.
November 13, 2006 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
We got 55% of the House votes in the country after the whole country was gerrymandered against us. In that context, it was a landslide.
Can't Dems just be happy for a week?
November 13, 2006 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mandate is as mandate does.
November 13, 2006 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
MJ
The voters did vote AGAINST the Republicans. Nobody is denying that the Democrats might provide the nation with a fresh perspective and get things turned around. If they can do that, great; we'd all be better for it.
But when so many Republican incumbents are defeated by 'new' politicians, many of whom were virtually unknown to the general public six months ago, you simply cannot spin this to appear as if Americans have turned to the Democrats for salvation.
They have turned to the Democrats because they are tired of corrupt and inept Republican leadership.
November 13, 2006 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've heard a strange sentiment from a few Republicans, who - although they voted a straight Republican ticket - weren't sorry Republicans lost. This may reflect a tendency to align with winners, but in at least two cases, where I know the people fairly well, it was a genuine acknowledgement that Republicans have really messed things up. One has a relative in peril in Iraq, another realized that the much-touted economic gains aren't benefiting anyone he knows.
November 13, 2006 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Low standards are easy to meet."
LOL. That's pretty funny! When I tell people I voted "straight D," no pun intended, I did so because I didn't want to encourage Bush.
November 13, 2006 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is pretty hard to be happy for a week when you can't remember any similar experience to guide you. For some reason the election results have been a depressing experience for me, not a joyous one. A month before the election I would have bet that if such a victory were to be achieved I would spend the next month celebrating, but.......how does one do that??? I can joke about it, but the down feeling is certainly real. Maybe we liberals just haven't had enough practice at this yet.
Hoppy in Sacramento
November 13, 2006 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point, I guess. Perhaps we shouldn't leave Iraq until we cure cancer and develop a truly portable, and long lasting artificial heart. We might as well stay there until we develop thermonuclear power too, or at least find a way to make all automobiles get 200 miles per gallon. But, just for me personally, I don't want us to leave Iraq until I have my retirement income doubled - I suppose that puts me on the side of the Halliburton execs.
Hoppy in Sacramento
November 13, 2006 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
THE NEW NARRATIVE...GOP GOT SHUT OUT!
I'm going to be charitable. It's possible the drawn out reporting of election returns made the media skittish about using superlatives to describe the Democratic victory. It wasn't until Allen conceded on Thursday that the media finally acknowledged, "Dems took both the House and Senate."
In other words, the time delay stole some of the thunder from the real story, which is this: Republicans did not pick up a single new seat in the Senate, House, or Governor's mansions ANYWHERE!
Adding insult to injury, gay marriage bans were on the ballot in 8 states and passed in 7. That means Republicans are less popular than gay marriage! That's gotta hurt....
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A recent FBI search warrant reveals Republicans refer to themselves as the Corrupt Bastards Club
November 13, 2006 10:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is a mandate by the American people that the D's can't be any worse the the R's...and in that regard they are correct.
But other than saying "stay the course" is no longer an option and sending the message of "we don't like corrupt politicians"...what did the voters "mandate"?
November 13, 2006 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
at least one newbie Democratic rep seems to disagree:
from
New York Times, November 12
Incoming Democrats Put Populism Before Ideology
That sort of puts you in the funny position of saying that one of the winners you are so excited about is pushing a "load of crap." :-)
November 13, 2006 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
You nailed it. Superb job except for this quibble:
Hillary's Frankenstein monster that would have fed the monsters instead of destroying them was killed by the lesser monsters.
After Hillary, a majority of Democrats were against the "single-payer" plan that had been the platform standard since it was proposed by Harry Truman. Nevermind that most health care expense is now shouldered by the government and our massive bureaucracy eats up a huge chunk of revenues in order to maintain high living for insurance company executives.
Hillary Clinton has the patented Republican touch of converting a festering problem into a malignancy. How long will it be before she proposes privatizing Social Security?
Best, Terry
November 13, 2006 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You would be surprised.
November 13, 2006 11:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the mandate is this:
transparency
oversight (as in watch over, not overlook)
rule of law
out of Iraq
control spending
A recent FBI search warrant reveals Republicans refer to themselves as the Corrupt Bastards Club!
November 13, 2006 11:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am obviously not as well informed as you are.
November 14, 2006 4:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'll make the case:
In American history there have also been quite a few "false dawns" i.e. when one party wins convincingly but doesn't last that long in power. I'm thinking of the GOP congress of the early 1950's as an example. They were voted in as a repudiation of the Democrats in 1952 but then voted out again in four years later. They were a blip in the long-term trend of Democratic control. You could argue that the same was true of the 1986 election, which saw Democrats regain the Senate after six years of Republican dominance. That mandate didn't last too long either.
Time will tell if the 2006 election is truly a watershed year or a temporary aberration in a period of conservative dominance. MJR pretends he knows the answer to this, but in truth nobody knows.
November 14, 2006 4:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice try.
The overall Democratic share of the vote had to overcome many obstacles, but gerrymandering isn't one of them. The share of the total vote is not affected by gerrymandering, only the total number of seats that that vote translates into.
But let's look at that as well. Dems got 55% of the total vote (I'll assume that's accurate - haven't verified it). If they remain at 232 seats in the House, that is around 53% of the seats. So there's a clear gerrymander factor at work in terms of seats, but it's not that significant.
November 14, 2006 5:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe you are depressed because you realize just how hard cleaning up the mess is going to be? Or maybe you are depressed because you realize we can't depend on our representatives to do the right thing for us regular citizens unless we stay right on top of them.
I think such an attitude is healthy. The election isn't the end of anything. It is the beginning of a lot of hard work.
Ron Byers
November 14, 2006 7:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's face it the American people gave Democrats a mandate--drain the swamp, clean up the mess. What are we doing? We are electing Steny Hoyer (or John Murpha) Majority Leader.
Question, in the eyes of K-Street what is the fundamental difference between Steny Hoyer and John Boehner? One is a Democrat and the other is a Republican. They both play ball.
I think it is going to be hard to drain the swamp with an allegator like Steny Hoyer (or an earmark champion like John Murpha for that matter) as Majority Leader.
Ron Byers
November 14, 2006 7:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
All I know is that a WIN is a WIN the republicans need to get over it
November 14, 2006 8:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Question, in the eyes of K-Street what is the fundamental difference between Steny Hoyer and John Boehner?
Hmnmm. Isn't Hoyer part of the DLC which is the corporate interest wing of the Dem party? Seems that would be a big distinction to K street.
November 14, 2006 8:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
The irony here, of course, is that the Democrats have picked their two worst candidates to lead the Congress.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are no improvement over Hastert and Frist. I'm confident that Congress, as a whole, will become more responsible and progressive over the next two years, but it is a shame that the Democrats stooped so low in annointing their Congressional leaders.
November 14, 2006 8:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
I tend to agree with M.J., in that the election was clearly a win for Democrats however you look at the numbers. If you only look at the numbers.
However, I also agree with Walz, at least to the extent that much of what the voters--especially independents--used the election to express was a disgust with the general tone of narrow, ideological, partisan, petty and mean-sprited bickering --fueled from the shadows by infusions of waaaaaay too much under-the-table-but-legal cash from radicals and special interests--that has characterized so much of the past decade. A majority of the blame can be laid at the feet of the radical fundamentalists (and I mean that in both the ecnomic/social and religious senses) in the GOP who not only had an agenda that ran counter to the central themes of the past 70 years or more, but proved amazingly inept in executing their own radical agenda. It was that ineptitude that finally did them in, in other words, not necessarily the agenda itself, since most Americans really don't pay all that much attention to the wonkish details.
There are some Democratic plans that are popular: raising the minimum wage, reforming lobbying and (I hope) campaign finance, instituting fiscal responsibility, starting with negotiating a better price for drug purchases, and so forth.
But beyond that, I think the great mass of Americans hate losers and stumblebums, and came to see Bush & Co. as long on talk, short on performance. All hat and no cattle. Democrats run the same risk if they fail to take to heart the very serious and sour and angry mood of the electorate, start preening themselves about "mandates" and and start feeding the same old coalition special interests again. That would be truly stupid. Fatally stupid.
It just happens that I'm reading Doris Goodwin's bio of Lincoln, the first Republican president. The concluding paragraph if his first inaugural jumped out at me as having application in today's context, as pertinent today in understanding the stakes and the way Americans want things run, as it was 146 years ago:
We're in one hell of a mess, but not nearly as deadly a crisis as what the country faced when Lincoln wrote those words. We've got two years to show what we can do to fix things, working to find reasonable people of all stripes with whom solutions can be negotiated and cemented by ratification of the voters. If not, the voters will start looking for someone other than Republicans or Democrats, just as they did in the 1850s.
As for me, I'm waiting and listening to hear which of the candidates who put themselves foward have the same hopes and vision I hear in those words on the eve of the Civil War. Who is capable of calling forth "the better angels of our nature?"
November 14, 2006 8:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
If the Republicans won the electins of 2000 and 2004 then Democrats won this election. There is a tendency of partisans for both sides to deny their closely held views were rejected. Bush being the worst president in our history no doubt helped the Democratic victory. However, so did the feeling that Working and Middle Class people have been ignored.
Part of the problem is the American keeping voting for politics and keep pretending that Washington can be run without politics. It would be a really good thing if on a host of issues someone would speak to the sovereigns of America, the People, some of the hard truths. Politicians work for us and "us" disagree over fundamental things.
If the Democrats can enact legislation that makes lives better and work with Bush enough as to get credit for things that go right they will be in a good position to win more seats and the presidency in 2008. However 1964 did not obliderate the Republcans so It is unlikely that this year did either.
Daniel A. Greenbaum
November 14, 2006 8:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
The mantra could as well be "bandaborol dem rep dirlizum".
Sounds OK (to some, at least), but does it MEAN anything? "Mandate" is "the commission to act as a representative". Constitutionally, a Congressional majority clearly has "the commission", morally, given that GOP were "repudiated", the mantra would mean that no mandate whatsoever exists so no one in the government should do anything until the voters will deign to give the mandate.
On the level of empyria, politicians can endavour to enact changes that are popular or unpopular, and it is really policy (or presentation) specific thing rather than some abstract "mandate".
November 14, 2006 9:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Care to support that assertion?
Reid is automatically an improvement over Frist by being an overtly rational actor, while Frist was overtly irrational about Terry Schiavo, for starters. Frist was the water-carrier for the "constitutional" option, too.
Pelosi automatically is lacking Hastert's baggage.
Both have Democratic policy positions, by default.
So how are they no improvement?
November 14, 2006 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, Ron, particularly about the healthiness of the attitude! The Dems have done an extraordinary job of beating back real corruption and nasty political machinery. Having so done, the Democrats are now in a position to win and go on winning. To assume that we've "won" already is to risk losing the wariness and energy -- and cohesion -- which got us the twin majorities.
And by the way, I think we risk overlooking the importance of Howard Dean's work which has set the party up for continuing success in the states where, after all, the main battles are won or lost.
I live in a state where the Dems did poorly. I'm with "tpmmal" and others who are chagrined by the large numbers who still, after every damn thing the Republican leadership has been responsible for, voted for the b*stards again. It's in the states where we need to demonstrate that Democrats represent a solid alternative to Republican corruption, cynicism, and corporatism. Then we'll have won! And we're in a great position to do so before 2008.
November 14, 2006 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that the agenda will, thankfully, be more progressive Gettysburg. But my main worry is that the way they run the Congress will be more "business as usual". Both Murtha and Hoyer, for example, have been very comfortable dealing with K Street in the past. Which is very problematic in terms of the voter's "mandate" of "we don't like corrupt politicians". Not that dealing with K Street in and of itself is "corrupt" but it certainly does increase the chances that the D's might go down the same path that the R's did.
As far as the "drama" of the D's working out how their hierarchy will be set-up, it is a non-issue for me right now. The only thing that will matter is how they will govern after it is all sorted out. But if the governing part of it goes wrong we can all look at who is leading the dems at that point and talk about the D's squandering their "mandate"...and seriously damaging their prospects for being "the majority party" for the long term.
November 14, 2006 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know where it's coming from but it's out there. Congressional Repubs were not inept, did not screw up (were no more corrupt than Dems) - in fact, their problems for the entire time of their majorities were all due to Dems who were determined to kill everything they wanted to do.
Of course specifics remain to be revealed -and never will be. It is absolutely amazing how these shibboleths get thrown out here, believed and quickly morph into fact.
We can expect to be deluged with them from now on - think "Harry and Louise" which may have done more to kill Hillary's health care proposal, not that it was a good one, than any other one thing.
They will have to be dealt with, either by drowning them out with our own shibboleths or immediately exposing their falseness. And I mean immediately because they spread like locusts on speed.
November 14, 2006 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree for the most part. I think most everything you state is either covered by "not staying the course" and "corrupt politicians are unacceptable".
I did forget to mention, and it was a glaring omission, that the "mandate" was one against "governmental ineptitude". Because in the voter's collective consciousness on election day were the images of NOLA drowning as our republican led government did nothing...
November 14, 2006 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you really nail it here:
Hence the reluctance of some of the other commenters on this thread to join with M.J. Rosenberg in singing "Happy days are here again"?
A lot of your other points are great, too, such as the GOP being seen as hostage to the right wing Christian set and how the dems could be seen the same way if they let certain contingents get their way too often.
BTW, I personally really enjoyed you sharing your related thoughts from your recent history reading.
November 14, 2006 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I just wish that after the elections we could become Americans again. It seems to be so senseless and unpatriotic to keep up all this partisianship when we need to get on with the governance of the country. It just seems so utterly useless to keep up all this squabbling between parties when all the American public wants is for their elected officials to govern based on the recognized powers of each branch of government.
Can't we just be Americans and look out for the interest of America?
This partisan bickering is old and accomplishes nothing.
November 14, 2006 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is maybe the Dems' biggest challenge -- withstanding the inevitable right-spun "conventional wisdom" about everything they try to do. And Harry and Louise are more applicable here than you've even indicated.
I've always maintained that the '94 loss could be laid at the feet of the Dem Congress at least as much as the Clintonistas, at both ends of our coalition. The traditional liberals (my people) became so ossified in power, and so disconnected from FDR's impulse to constantly examine how things were working, that they refused to acknowledge the need for even the smallest adjustment in, say, the welfare program (Clinton's own original proposal was quite modest, sensible and humane). That gave the Republicans just enough of a target that they could point to that they could claim, illegitimately but effectively, that "big government" was a failure and that Democrats couldn't fix it, so it had to be dismantled and the Dems swept away. At the other end of our spectrum, as soon as the Republicans started attacking Clinton's "liberal" (!) health-care plan, the "moderates," who reflexively run from the latest thing being labeled with the dreaded L word, quickly ran from the proposal, and from Clinton. You can't defend territory you're running from. Then of course there were the inevitable excesses of those who'd been in power for decades (they were pikers next to this crowd, but nevertheless).
The very early signs this time round, regarding the leadership and the new Congressional class, have me hopeful (wary, but hopeful) that they'll have the strength and wisdom they'll need to make the most of their new position, and of the public's renewed receptiveness to what we stand for. And historically speaking, we're clearly in a much better position now: arguing against the "conservative governing philosophy" is much easier once it's been put into practice and proven to be every bit the oxymoron that those who actually believe in government have said it was, and then some...
November 14, 2006 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
We can wish for total agreement. We can also hope that it will never, ever happen again. We've seen what a one-sided Congress can bring us when they also are in total agreement with the President. When we think about our wishes, we realize how much of a nightmare, not a fantasy, they are.
Your wishes are mine also, but I believe that we both need to be more rational than our wishes. In a democracy (or a republic as we actually are, not a complete democracy) there should be and will be disagreements. There will be splits and diversity. That's what we all just voted about - along the lines of our own beliefs while our neighbors voted along the lines of theirs.
A Congress that at least attempts to work with everyone who will work well with most is all I would ever ask. The Congress which is thankfully leaving us has been a one-sided, no agreements ever sadness and has been non-inclusive. Our new Congress will do better. This have we been promised. This do we expect and will be watching for.
November 14, 2006 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
This week a New York Times poll said 55% of Americans wanted more troops sent to Iraq to help stabilize the situation.
November 14, 2006 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reid certainly appears to be much more corrupt than Frist.
http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2003-06/8306315.pdf
November 14, 2006 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL...gimme a break. If I remember right the good doctor pushed through legislation that directly benefitted companies he was invested in, he is no Altar Boy...I am not saying there aren't questions surrounding Reid, but Frist was as bad if not worse.
November 14, 2006 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Then there's the work he and his sons did at Coyote Springs
He'll be rooting out that culture of corruption
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One of the most inhospitable places in the country, Coyote Springs Valley is so barren that, until recently, its best use was thought to be as a weapons test range.
Yet the valley — an hour northeast of Las Vegas — is on its way to becoming a real estate development of historic proportions, with as many as 159,000 homes, 16 golf courses and a full complement of stores and service facilities. At nearly 43,000 acres, Coyote Springs covers almost twice as much space as the next-largest development in a state famous for outsized building projects. ...
Over the last four years, Reid has used his influence in Washington to help the developer, Nevada super-lobbyist [Harvey] Whittemore, clear obstacles from Coyote Springs' path.
At one point, Reid proposed opening the way for Whittemore to develop part of the site for free — something for which the developer later agreed to pay the government $10 million.
As the project advanced, Reid received tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Whittemore. The contributions not only went to Reid's Senate campaigns, but also to his leadership fund, which he used to help bankroll the campaigns of Democratic colleagues.
Whittemore also helped advance the legal careers of two of Reid's four sons. One of the two, Leif Reid, who is Whittemore's personal lawyer, has represented the developer throughout the Coyote Springs project, including in negotiations with federal officials.
The story of Coyote Springs sounds like a Horatio Alger story. The land Whittemore bought in 1998 from a defense contractor who intended on using it for target practice had a number of restrictions on its use. A quarter of it was subject to a federal power-line right of way. Another quarter had federal protection for the desert tortoise, an endangered species that also is Nevada's official state reptile. The land had a fragile series of streams and washes that required special permission on which to build without ruining the desert's ecosystem.
None of these obstacles proved too difficult for Whittemore, at least not while he had his friend Harry Reid running interference in Congress. Interior refused to relocate the tortoises for over five years, until the Bureau of Land Management agreed to swap the land for another parcel abutting a federal preserve elsewhere. No one ever did an analysis to determine whether the deal was fair to either party, nor did the BLM go to Congress for approval on the changes to a project that Congress had explicitly legislated.
In 2002, Reid worked on the power corridor. He inserted obscure provisions into a land management bill that relocated the power corridor, freeing Whittemore to build on the 10,500 acres that Congress had previously held -- which means that someone else now had to lose property value for Whittemore's benefit, and for no cost whatsoever. That bald move caused raised eyebrows at the BLM and the Senate's Energy and Natural Resources Committee, and Reid backed away -- for the moment. Less than two years later, Reid tried again to give Whittemore the land for a song ($160,000), but Congress balked again. He finally settled for freeing the land for development and allowing Whittemore to buy it at a fair market rate, and forcing the government to relocate the power corridor.
In 2005, Reid and fellow Nevada Senator John Ensign conducted a series of interventions with the EPA to eliminate the final obstacle -- the environmental impact on the fragile ecosystem in Coyote Springs Valley. When the agency blocked Whittemore's efforts, Reid and Ensign held several meetings with EPA officials to pressure them into submission. Whittemore used another Reid son, Lief, to lobby his father's office for assistance. In the end, the pressure paid off, as the EPA backed down from its opposition after winning a few concessions on the development plan.
What did Reid get in exchange for all of this support? According to the Times, Whittemore contributed $45,000 to Reid and his PACs since 2000. He also gave the DSCC $20,000 in 2000, when it pushed Reid as a leader for the party in the Senate. Reid's son Josh got $5,000 for his unsuccessful campaign for a city council seat; his other sone Rory got $5,000 for his successful effort to win a spot on the Clark County Board of Commissioners.
November 14, 2006 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
There will be all manner of ridiculous nonsense for the next 2 years. The response to all of it needs to be some variant or other of "GOP, STFU."
-- "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." (John Kenneth Galbraith)
November 14, 2006 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a bunch of good info. Reid should be under spotlight.
Let's remember, though, that the previous majority is the one that established the K St. Project. While Reid was exploiting his connections the ruling majority was giving him cover.
My beef with the GOP includes corruption only as a sour to offset the saccharine-sweet moralizing of the self-styled social conservatives of the GOP. My main beef is the wrong-headed legislative program, the mindless support for Bush, and the absolute lack of oversight.
I don't care a whole lot about Frist enriching his family, but to talk about burdensome taxes while doing so burns me up. Any hypocrisy by the Democratic leadership is dwarfed by the incompetence and sleaziness of the Republicans in Congress.
November 14, 2006 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Partisanship is a good thing. It provides us with a choice among ideas. The election of November 7 was all about that choice. Sterile nonpartisanship is the hallmark of failed societies, not successful ones.
November 14, 2006 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
This week a New York Times poll said 55% of Americans wanted more troops sent to Iraq to help stabilize the situation.
Well, not exactly.
Question 62: From what you have seen or heard about the situation in Iraq, what should the United States do NOW -- should the U.S. increase the number of U.S. troops in Iraq, keep the same number of U.S. troops in Iraq as there are now, decrease the number of U.S. troops in Iraq, or remove all its troops from Iraq?
Increase - 16%
Keep same - 27%
Decrease - 26%
Remove all - 24%
DK/NA - 6%
Question 66: Would you favor or oppose sending more U.S. troops to Iraq, if that would help the U.S. to gain control of the Iraqi capital of Bagdad and stabilize the country?
Favor - 55%
Oppose - 37%
DK/NA - 7%
That's a very big "IF" in Q66. Q62 is the "what do you think we should do" question, while Q66 gets at the reasoning behind people's opinions about what troop levels should be.
November 14, 2006 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, that is a rather large distinction.
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November 14, 2006 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is the source for this information? I know that Reid banned family members from lobbying his office, so I'm not sure that anything else here is accurate. I do know that the GOP has gone to extrordinary length's to smear Reid, and they have not been successful. The latest being that he "tipped" workers in his building from campaign funds at Christmas time for the extra work they had to do while he was campaignig. It was a few hundred dollars.
Yeah, next to Frist that sort of thing looks so....
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November 14, 2006 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
The big GOP victory in 1994 was not pro-Republican. It was anti-Clinton, especially anti-Hillary (following months of GOP lying about her health care plan).
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I can think of no watershed election that was positive rather than negative.
Wrong. And your ignorance is showing.
The Contract with America was an entirely positive document. "Vote for us and we will do these things." And the Republicans did them. Everything that was completely within their control was accomplished. Everything that required Democrat support to accomplish was, as promised, at a minimum brought to a vote.
If the Democrats could have found 10, or even six, things that 80% of them agreed on, and that polled well with a majority of Americans, they would have had a "Contract" this year. They didn't, because the only things the Democrats stand for aren't very popular.
So, you enjoy lying to yourself, and anyone else who wants to believe, but the truth of the matter is that this year the Republicans lost, and in 1994 the Republicans won.
Having been given power, the Democrats are going to have to do something with it. And while I hate to see you get the power, I'm going to really enjoy watching what happens to you when you try to use it.
Of course, you don't have to do anything with it. You can spend the next two years doing nothing other than investigating Bush. As a libertarian who favors smaller government, that would be a "win" in my book. :-)
November 15, 2006 8:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
gregd24: "If the Democrats could have found 10, or even six, things that 80% of them agreed on, and that polled well with a majority of Americans, they would have had a "Contract" this year. They didn't, because the only things the Democrats stand for aren't very popular."
Gee, guess you didn't hear about the "Six in '06". Here's Rahm Emanuel on a June "Journal Editorial Report", for just one of countless times it was discussed during the campaign:
And I guess you don't remember all the Dem-Congressperson-X-morphing-into-Clinton ads in '94, or the fact that polls showed most people pretty ignorant of the Contract (unlike today, actually, where the support for Democrats' positions is polling pretty much as high as the aversion to continued Republican control).
November 15, 2006 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Re: The Contract with America was an entirely positive document.
Actually, polls at the time showed that only 1/3 of the voters had even heard of the Contract with America
Re: "Vote for us and we will do these things." And the Republicans did them.
Um, no they didn;t. As soon ast hey got their hands on power the Contract was shoved in a back file cabinet and the GOP got down to the serious business of enriching themselves and their cronies-- one big reason the voters gave them tehir pink slips last week.
November 16, 2006 5:28 AM | Reply | Permalink