TPMCafe
« Richard Perle, Neo Chutzpah | Home | What If They Steal It? »

Honor Our Service: Vote

user-pic

Mike Krause served two full years in Iraq, plus a stint in Afghanistan, as a Sergeant in the US Army. This Election Day, he reminds us why there's no excuse for apathy this year, and no better way to honor the sacrifices of our men and women in uniform than to cast your vote and hold your elected officials accountable.

"In November 2004, more than 200 million people were eligible to vote in the presidential election... but almost 40% of them stayed home.

That nearly 80 million people didn't make it to the polls that day was a special punch in the gut to my friends and me, because we were watching the election results from deep within Iraq's Sunni Triangle. Some Americans heard political commentary that night- we heard mortar fire.

Just like in 2004, your vote today will affect the lives of every man and woman serving on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan. Your choices will
determine how long we fight in Iraq, what kind of equipment we have on the ground, and what treatment we receive when we get home.

This week, you can make your voice heard.

Our country is at war. A 60% voter turnout isn't good enough. Please vote today, and remind your friends and family to make it to the polls. To find your local polling place, click here."


20 Comments

| Leave a comment

I proudly cast my ballot this morning.  My question to my fellow TPMCafe denizens is...

Has everybody voted?  If not, get out and vote!!!  Knowing this group though, I am betting most already have or will do so later...

Mr. Reickhoff is right.  It does a disservice to everybody who has worn the uniform or are currently wearing the unform, who put their lives on the line for us and the many who have died, if we don't vote.  Voting isn't just our right it is our civic obligation!!! 

I proudly cast my ballot this morning.

Why did you bother? I'll warrant that in all the years you've voted, Libertine, your vote has never made the slightest difference in the outcome.

And if all the people who didn't vote because they thought their vote wouldn't count, voted as a group, their candidates would win every time Ellen.  They disenfranchise themselves...

I have voted in every election I've had a chance to since I became eligible to vote in 1980...and I will continue to keep that streak alive as long as I live.

It's more likely they'd simply cancel each other out?

Ellen says:

Why did you bother? I'll warrant that in all the years you've voted, Libertine, your vote has never made the slightest difference in the outcome.

I can't speak for Libertine...I rather think Libertine can speak eloquently in Libertine's own defense.  I can speak for myself, and explain why I'll be voting as soon as my workday is over.

Whether or not my vote has ever made the slightest difference in the outcome of the election, it has made a difference to me, and to my sense of self respect.  In this, my voting behavior isn't all that different from my other forms of behavior.  I do it under a sense of moral obligation, because I believe, as Churchill once said, that Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.  I do it as a civic duty...to record, at least for myself, my sense of what's right in this country, and what's wrong in this country.  I vote top of the ballot to bottom of the ballot.   I vote the referenda.  I vote the bond issues.  I'll vote for better accommodations for the bears at the zoo, I'll vote for low income housing, I'll vote against casino gambling, and I'll vote most, but not all the democratic ticket.  (I have a couple of local friends running as republicans for the town council).

I'd like my vote to tip the balance in favor of the persons and issues about which I'm passionate, but on the deepest level this is irrelevant to me.  It's the right thing to do, period.

As I said...this is a part of who I am.  I speak civilly because in my moral world it is right to speak civilly.  I try to be patient with silly or thoughtless people.  I say thanks to people who deserve thanks, and when asked what I think I say what I think.  Does any of this change anything?  Probably not.  But to NOT do any of these things would change me, and change me in ways which would diminish me.  

So thanks for voting, Libertine, regardless of whether the universe moves a little, one way or the other.  And thanks to everyone else, too, not because you think your side will win if you do or lose if you don't but because you testify to what your side is and the value you hold in it by making the effort. 

aMike

My three year old came along to pull the levers with me, and then again with his mom - he believes in voting early and often.

Myself, I believe that everyone should vote, unless maybe they shouldn't.   Honoring your service to us means taking the responsibility for making reasoned decisions seriously - if a citizen can't or won't do that, I'm not sure that voting anyway is the height of civic responsibility, and I'm not sure that policies that flow from an unreflective electorate are necessarily the best show of respect for the sacrifices made by you and your comrades in the armed forces.  

But maybe I'm being too contrarian.  We owe it to you to make informed choices, and I hope all my fellow citizens do. 

Ah; those warm and fuzzy self-congratulatory feelings we experience upon having done our duty -- and all to the better when the cost of doing so is so low.

Voting -- the last refuge of a scoundrel?

As always, Ellen, you sap my feeling that I've become jaded and cynical....

I tend to disagree.  I have no emperical data to back it up but I am fairly confident that most people who feel their vote doesn't count are generally either poorer, inner-city, and often minority voters who have been disenfranchised in the past.  And they tend to be more likely to vote democratic.

You think conservative voters feel disenfranchised Ellen?  I generally see them as a highly motivated group of voters...although this year might be an exception.  But even so this year their low turn-out won't be from a feeling of disenfranchisement, just disgust with their own party.

This reminds me of an episode of the SIMPSONS, Treehouse of Horror VII:

Kodos: It's true, we are aliens. But what are you going to do about it? It's a two-party system; you have to vote for one of us.
[murmurs]
Man1: He's right, this is a two-party system.
Man2: Well, I believe I'll vote for a third-party candidate.
Kang: Go ahead, throw your vote away.
[Kang and Kodos laugh out loud]
http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F02.html

Only by voting can we retain the right to complain.

I've never voted with levers -- what do they do?

In past years, I've used a stylus to punch little rectantular holes in a ballot.  Today I had a chance to fill in bubbles with a felt-tip pen -- not just make a check or X out the bubble.  It was a bit like a standardized test for registered voters.  In another time zone, my mom tried out a spiffy new electronic voting system, which she likened to an ATM machine.

Here, you pull this humongous lever to the right, then pull a bunch of little ones that leave an X by each name.  Then you pull the big one to the left and, so they say, you've voted. 

I miss the felt tip pens of my youth in Oregon (where you can now vote at home). But the huge, half-century-old knobs and levers system of New York City has a satisfying, crumbling urban stodginess to it. It almost makes you wonder if you shouldn't be able to sell your vote right then and there....

"I am fairly confident that most people who feel their vote doesn't count are generally either poorer, inner-city, and often minority voters who have been disenfranchised in the past."

Or they're the ones proudly sporting "A vet died to keep you free - vote Republican" stickers on their cars. Even though no vet in my lifetime has died to keep me free - and the ones dying now don't seem to be dying for any reason other than to give the Republicans a political issue with which to bash Democrats.

Why did you bother? I'll warrant that in all the years you've voted, Libertine, your vote has never made the slightest difference in the outcome.

Funny this reminds me of the time I asked Ellen over to help me move an armoire into my apartment. It was a pretty heavy armoire but two people working in concert could certainly have lifted it. Unfortunately as soon as I tried to hoist up my end, Ellen began lamenting how she wasn’t able to move the armoire by herself. And then as I strained and tried to hoist it up, and the beads of sweat started forming on my brow, Ellen just laughed in a somewhat condescending manner and asked me why I was wasting my time, since obviously I wasn’t strong enough to lift the armoire.

Ellen was of the opinion that since I couldn’t move the armoire by myself, and plainly she couldn’t move the armoire by herself we were each just wasting our time trying to move it. I was sure there was a flaw in her logic somewhere, but somehow I just couldn’t put my finger on it.

Anyway funnily enough that armoire is still sitting outside my apartment, and GW Bush has been president for six years.

So you think all the vets joined the service just so the GOP can have an electoral weapon to attack the dems with?  All those guys in WWII fought and often died standing up to the Nazis and Japanese did so just so the GOP could bash the dems?  I can see why some vets hate dems...

I condemn the GOP politicans for misuse of our military for partisan political gains, not the people who serve... 

I think Ellen is just playing Devil's Advocate.

Some people stay home as a way of voting. They can't bring themselves to vote outside their party and can't bring themselves to vote for the party candidate. Sometimes staying home is a good thing. Still, our voting system needs an overhaul to be sure it's fair and votes have a paper record. Thanks as always for your service, Paul.

Regardless of what one feels, not voting says you are content with all outcomes.

If you have a complaint you have to vote or your complaint is empty.

Apply the "What if everyone.." question and a win for the other guys becomes an overwhelming mandate. Alternatively, if a "high" turnout is 60%, there is still 40% available to overturn a plurality of a few percent. Admittedly a particular district can seem hopeless for the opposition, but consider Jean Schmitt's Ohio district, which nearly failed to elect her over Paul Hackett, and she may fail to win today.

There is no excuse for not voting, end of story.

I was talking about the war-mongering chickenhawks "fighting" the war here at home, not the soldiers.

And I do think that the soldiers who have died in combat in my lifetime (post-1961) have died in vain. We have had no business in either of the wars fought since then. I also believe in my bones that one of the most persuasive reasons to invade Iraq in Bush's mind was that it would bring him political success here at home.

My father is (an 87-y.o.) Pearl Harbor survivor. I am extremely proud of his, and all of our WWII veterans', service in that war. But, unlike Vietnam and now Iraq, that was truly a necessary war.

Leave a comment

Advertisement
Please disable your adblocker!
Ads are how we pay the bills!

Subscribe

The Coffee House
TPMCafe's regulars

House Brew
From Your Cafe Editor

Special Guests
Big names and big brains

Special Features
Pressing topics and trends

Table for One
An expert's week-long talk.

All Reader Posts
TPM readers discuss.

Advertise Liberally
Share
Close Social Web Email

"To" Email Address

Your Name

Your Email Address