A Call from Robert DeNiro
Imagine my suprise when I got home tonight to hear a message on my answering machine from Robert DeNiro. Who wouldn't hope for such a thing? Of course, the message was pre-recorded-and as I heard his slight New York accent toned in my phone, I also heard the actor make a pre-done plea for my vote for Hillary Clinton for re-election to the Senate. Being a New Yorker, quite frankly, I could forego the general election, especially this year, as Hillary and everyone else is going to landslide their way into the victory they already earned in the Democratic primary, but nonetheless, my phone (and email) is stock full of pleas to vote. And I must say, that I was intrigued not only that DeNiro would be used as a gotv ploy-but moreso by his pitch, which was incredibly unconvincing--and depressing, even, if one is to consider how the Dems need to state their case--and especially that of the presidential frontrunner otherwise known as the junior senator from NY--
Indeed, what was Robert DeNiro's argument for voting for "his senator from NY?" The only specific point that DeNiro mentioned was that Hillary fought to stop Bush from allowing a foreign power to own our ports. Heavens-I had almost forgotten that fight, but thank goodness DeNiro reminded me! I mean, come on--is this why liberals and the left want to elect, re-elect or promote Hillary Clinton? Because she fought against foreign ownership of our ports? Couldn't the campaign come up with a better reason to motivate their base to come to the polls? (I am assuming that I'd be considered a baseline voter after all-prime voter, female, liberal, etc.)--If this is all there is, if this is the vision, if this is the motivation, if this is the issue that's being flagged, it's diffficult to imagine what comes on the day after this election, but it doesn't bode well for the Democrats. The Working Families Party (a New York State phenomenon) at least has Gloria Steinem sending me emails telling me to vote for Eliot Spitzer for Governor and other Dems on the WFP line to send a message to the Dems about support for working people. There's a reason to use the WFP line to push the Dems toward something resembling a program. (In NY, candidates take cross-endorsements). But if in the end, the Democratic frontrunner is going to hand a DeNiro such a nothing-script, where will we all be come 2008? I mean, this is beyond being cautious, it's simply ridiculous...and a terrible waste of a movie star.












Oh, just hush. And vote.
With "cheerleaders" like you, it's going to be closer than anyone thinks.
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October 31, 2006 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I mean, come on--is this why liberals and the left want to elect, re-elect or promote Hillary Clinton? Because she fought against foreign ownership of our ports?
No, but it may be a way of getting a few additional independents and disaffected Republicans to vote for Hillary - especially in New York where the terrorism issue remains a big motivator. Hence the use of noted movie tough guy Robert DeNiro. The base is going to vote for Clinton anyway - they don't need a lot of additional motivation.
I assume Clinton's campaign is all about increasing her margin at this point, so as to maintain her status as the party "frontrunner." There might also be an effort to experiment with certain messages to see how they play among swing voters or in particular districts in advance of 2008. Your phone number was probably just included in a larger sweep targetting more than just the base.
What's interesting is that you don't remember much about the phone message other than the point about the ports. But it's clear you also remember the most important message from the call: "Robert DeNiro is voting for Hillary."
October 31, 2006 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a smart move by Hillary.
It shows she is not taking anything for granted. She has a full frontal get out the vote operation in place.
If there is a high turnout for Hillary it will help other Democrats on the ticket.
Robert De Niro doesn't need to give a long list of reasons to vote for Hillary. She is not an unknown figure with an unknown record. People know who she is and what she stands for.
The call reminds people to vote. That is the reason for the call. It is smart.
October 31, 2006 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting post. My sister, who is an absentee New York State voter, has decided to skip the elections this year. Her lack of enthusiasm for Clinton because of her record on Iraq and because of Clinton's lack of leadership on any progressive issues (as well as the lack of any close battles in her districts) is prompting her to pass. I couldn't mount a reasonable argument against her stance. Somehow this call from deNiro would not have helped.
November 1, 2006 5:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a progressive NY voter & I'm going to vote for Hil despite my "lack of enthusiasm" for her MOR politics. I live upstate & a lot of my Republican neighbors are going to vote for her too. I could not imagine staying home on any election day, especially this one.
November 1, 2006 5:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent post, workerbee! Hillary is a wonderful candidate for us and she's going to be our next president! Remember The Progressive Motto: "JUST SHUT UP AND VOTE!"
November 1, 2006 5:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well said, jackrussell! It doesn't really matter what our team's candidates stand for. All that matters is we vote for them. Early and Often!
November 1, 2006 5:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
it's called the "new bosses replacing the old bosses but the business is the same." Unlike some of our Democratic friends, some of us want to change the direction this country is going, not simply change the leadership taking us over the cliff. It doesn't mean not voting, but it means at a minimum letting these centrists know enough of their tiptoeing in opposition to the right-wing, fascist-wannabees and not applauding every sellout as a "great political maneuver".
November 1, 2006 6:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
You can say whatever you want. Just make sure you vote for whoever has a "D" after their name! That's all that matters!
November 1, 2006 7:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
From New York Magazine's "Intelligencer" section in the Nov. 6 issue, in a piece on listing how New Yorkers could still help out either party if one was was interested, this brag in the GOP section was interesting on the GOTV matter:
Also related to GOTV, John Heileman's article in the same issue on the GOP's Pelosi gambit is very interesting and also frightening as to what he argues might be the possible results.
November 1, 2006 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hear! Hear! Without sarcasm, it doesn't really matter if the candidate satisfies 100% of what you stand for. Democracy is like that, you never get a perfect candidate. What does matter is that you go vote and express your choice.
Two reasons for not voting: 1. "There's no difference between the candidates." This is the realm of the alienated or the mentally impoverished. We heard it lots in 2000, Bush vs. Gore, no difference between those two turkeys.
2. "My party's candidate is wrong on ... (insert your favorite issue) ... and I won't vote to sent them a message." This elitist attitude is pretty common here at TPM.
Both of these reasons are primarily for Democrats. Republicans do always vote. Get used to it, perpetual rule by Republicans except when the Republicans really screw up (like in 2006).
I agree with Voltaire, The perfect is the enemy of the good.
November 1, 2006 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
The call I would have liked to receive from Robert DeNero:
aMike
November 1, 2006 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, let's ratchet up the hopelessness and spend time whining about the shortcomings of the Democratic Party. With any luck we'll attract the notice of right wing radio and encourage a few thousand voters to stay home.
The time to discuss this type of minutia is AFTER the election, not the week before.
Hey! Maybe NOW would be a good time to examine just what's GOOD about the Republican Party! Ya think?! Let's discuss John Kerry's inability to tell a joke, next.
After all, I'd hate to "shut up" anyone that is encouraging apathy and nonsense.
Fun, fun, fun!
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November 1, 2006 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't believe that the venom for Pelosi is just a fear and hatred of her being liberal, from SF or a Democrat. Likewise I don't think that the critique of Katharine Jefferts Schori soon to be installed as the head of the US Episcopal Church is just about her support of gays in the church.
I believe the unspoken issue of many is a woman in a major leadership role.
Pelosi has a retort that I think is great, and effective to counter the out of the mainstream picture: I am an Italian, Catholic mother of 5 and grandmother of 5 going on 6.
As to her skills as a leader she sounds tough when talking about how she will lead but I am looking to see how she handles the committee chairmanships. The tradeoffs for intelligence chair will say alot to me. Whatever issues she has with Jane Harman the alternative choices I've seen discussed are less credible as intellence experts and come with significant downsides.
November 2, 2006 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
You raise very interesting points, thanks.
For some reason, I like this, I think it's a good tactic to react to the attempt at labeling as "San Francisco latte liberal":
but perhaps that is because I understand well the culture/mindset she is addressing there, grew up in that milieu (tho not Italian, I have honorary much experience in that, too.) It's hard for me not to see it as savvy, but I may be judging on my own prejudices and understandings of the electorate.
The female issue you raise is, of course, a classic--women as having more "bleeding hearts" in general. If one is to be honest with oneself as a woman, it's a generalization that has basis in fact if you study male/female patterns of voting. (Mho, it's the cause of this--nature or nurture?--that should be the issue of debate, not the fact that the generalization has basis in fact.) It is one reason why, for instance, Hillary as Senator has played up the "tough guy" image.
November 2, 2006 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am interested in how Pelosi is trying to create a new leadership model that will work for her. She is smart to improve what she has but to stay close to what she is so that she does not have to try to be something in a job that is 7 days a week.
She is visually and from what I hear/read unlike the almost manly, asexual Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher and Indira Ghandi. Since she has neither their look nor the stature to try to carry off a pseudo male look she keeps her feminine look (color, hair, jewelry) but wears tailored suits.
In words and tone she is a leader in process. I read somewhere, and now cannot find, that she has been working with media type consultants to improve how she communicates ideas in interviews (eg Sunday talk shows) and speeches. From her recent tv interviews she is succinct and clear. I watch and listen to how uses tough language and exhibits authority along the lines of the matriarch. She subtly emphasizes it with the Italian mother/grandmother.
The most difficult for a leader who is a female is to be challenging and a fighter in ways that reduce the use of labels such as shrill, feisty, etc. Death to a woman in authority.
I recently finished former HP CEO Carly Fiorina's memoir. She highlights her belief in the importance of and her skill in dealing with people. Not a bleeding heart but someone who deals ith her own heart and considered those of the others in her realm. I don't believe she was booted for business failings of a kind that would have gotten a male fired. She had taken corporate risks, had business failing but the clincher was that she was a strong leader who was a woman. The performance standard is higher for those who don't fit in. If what she says is true that the Board never said to her face that she was fired (they sent a couple of attorneys) that says it all. She probably never had their respect. She did get their money, CEO experience and quite the public platform.
November 2, 2006 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yet another reason for your unabated enthusiasm from FOX23 News (Albany New York)today:
"The senator says that also means her Democratic colleague John Kerry -- in hot water for trying to criticize the Bush administration policy in Iraq by criticizing the men and women fighting the war.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton: “What Senator Kerry said was inappropriate and I believe we can't let it divert us from looking at the issues that are at stake in our country. We do need a new policy in Iraq.”
The people who came to listen to Senator Clinton -- most of them Democratic supporters -- agree with her thoughts on Kerry's comments. "
Of course, the perfect is the enemy of the good. Helpful also is the thought that you cannot end the war and occupation in Iraq if you continue to support it. You also cannot change the direction this country is heading if you do not speak out against the leadership taking us there.
November 2, 2006 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
A simplistic, condescending view of leadership male and female and Carly Fiorina:
Clueless. A CEO who is a woman should not follow a leadership model appropriate for a secretary.
November 2, 2006 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
More comprehensive and nuanced analysis of Fiorina and leadership
[for some reason I cannot lift passages without taking the whole article]
Interview w/ Fiorina has a moment that I cannot imagine in an interview with a former male CEO:
November 2, 2006 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Robert deNiro? Badda bing? At least you got a contender. The automated Senator Clinton call I got here in the suburbs of Albany came from Tony Bennett! "You may think I left my heart in San Francisco..." Who are these people kidding? I thought he was dead! Tony Bennett?
I like Senator Clinton's record and am voting for her but she doesn't need random old guys running interference. She definitely should fire the Madison Avenue fool that planned this one.
November 2, 2006 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink