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The three years I spent working on In China's Shadow, along with my colleague Elizabeth Cavanagh, led me to conclusions that surprised me and I hope interest you. Here's the outline:

  • China's non-democratic, state-supported, mostly unplanned, and voracious capitalism will not only create a consumption market as big as the United States's, but also will foster millions of firms, of which tens of thousands will compete by way of export into the United States.
  • If most American firms do not defeat their Chinese rivals in the American market, their American employees will be worse off. Some number of defeats in competition can benefit the United States by intensifying competitiveness, lowering prices, and enhancing productivity -- but for the United States citizens to be better off in general and on average because of China-led global competition, American firms have to win more marketplace battles than they lose. Another way to say this is: with 5% of the global workforce making 20% of the world's product, American workers have more to lose than to win in global competition.
  • The Chinese market is so large that American firms that make tradable products must enter that market. They will do so by investing in China and hiring in China more than by exporting into China, because of the appeal of low wages and the pressure of Chinese government to open markets only in return for investment.
  • If American firms invest more in China than in the United States, and if American firms lose more than they win in competition in the American market, then American citizens will have suffered a double whammy, lowering national income.
  • Income inequality in the United States is at record levels and is increasing. If national income goes down at the same time that inequality increases, the United States will over time cease to think of itself as a middle class nation. It will be riven by class conflict. Few will continue to believe in the American Dream. Wise political decisions will be hard to come by. Free trade will be at risk; and if the American reaction to these developments is to erect tariff barriers or to use war to try to assure export markets, then national income will decline even faster and internal conflict will worsen.
  • The right response lies not in income redistribution, trade barriers, the projection of military power, or even a national strategic policy.
  • The right response is found in the lessons of the Golden 90's: open markets to entrepreneurship, to start-up's, to experiment, chaos, collaboration, confusion, and creative destruction. That's what America did in information industries in the 90's and the result was huge wealth creation as well as income improvement for virtually every American family.
  • Energy and health care are the two big sectors that should be opened by law to competition from new entrants and responsive entrepreneurship from incumbents. We need a Telcom Act of 96 to be written for those industries in 2008.
  • American workers ought to be supported by reliable public benefits as they create start-up's, move to new jobs in new firms, and intensify their personal commitment to entrepreneurship. They should have very cheap access to college educations, easy credit for starting firms, portable and individualized savings accounts, cheap and universal broadband communications.
  • Americans win when large firms emerge into existence from the firestorm of creative destruction and hire lots of Americans -- think Google in this decade, and Yahoo!, AOL, Netscape and hundreds of others in the 90's. Small firms are not the end state of job creation: they are where big firms come from and it's the success of new big firms in new global markets that will determine the opportunities of American workers and the future of the American Dream.
  • There's nothing harder than passing and implementing laws that open closed, incumbent-dominated, change-resistant markets. But the architectures of law, technology, and leadership all have to be redesigned so as to be biased toward open entry, access, and competition. The result should be an enhanced culture of entrepreneurship, personified in the 90's by Marc Andreessen and Steve Case, whose interviews are in this book.
  • The Internet is the medium for firm creation and entrepreneurship in the 00's and future decades. It encourages the formation of groups and collaborative activities that can manifest and strengthen the culture of entrepreneurship. Not government but people acting together on the Web is the secret of survival for the American Dream
You can download a PowerPoint presentation of the book's argument here.

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Yes; it would be nice if any of us here -- or even your average economists -- knew how a developed economy works. Do we? Do they?

For example, the 1990s of full employment -- actually, 1996 to 2001 -- are presented as an exemplar. But the cause of the success remains little understood. From this near point in time it seems that it was based on the world of foreign export earnings looking for a safe haven and returning our money to us. And what did we do with it?

Our financial intermediationists put the returned funds into "dark fiber" and "internet eyeballs," and it all crashed in 2002. But the money kept returning, and over the past four years those same financial wizards have been putting the money into residential building with asset inflation being the result. Some await the next crash.

What we've been doing for the past ten years isn't to be referred to as entrepreneurship but as taking-in-each-other's-washing -- a successful economic strategy for as long as the world floods us with money -- but no longer than that.

Reid,
I agree that competitive challenges from China pose a huge threat. And I certainly agree that the economic challenge of the next 50 years is to move workers "around the corner" to jobs that persist in a thoroughly automated world. Nonetheless, I find these two comments hard to follow.

The right response lies not in income redistribution, trade barriers, the projection of military power, or even a national strategic policy.
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American workers ought to be supported by reliable public benefits as they create start-up's, move to new jobs in new firms, and intensify their personal commitment to entrepreneurship. They should have very cheap access to college educations, easy credit for starting firms, portable and individualized savings accounts, cheap and universal broadband communications.

The first of these quotes is at odds with the second: you can't pay for the second without a solid bit of taxation and government spending. Call it what you like, this is moving wealth from richer people to poorer people. You seem to be proposing a different delivery mechanism, but I'd ask this: excepting welfare/EITC because of its relatively small proportion of government expenses, when has our the government has wholesale engaged in giving money to people? So what we're talking about here is still about having the government deliver or pay for the delivery of critical public services to strengthen the "commons" and the middle class. In general, I believe exploring different ways to deliver that redistribution is an excellent idea, and something that progressives of all stripes should agree on. But let's not fool ourselves that it's not a commitment to government as an agent of redistribution. Also, you left a critical public service out: healthcare. The entrepreneurial climate you describe is profoundly stymied by the financial risks associated with health problems. Few things would liberate workers from their current jobs like universal and portable health care - this is far more important than college or access to credit. If you want a nation of entrepreneurs, keep em healthy.

I also take issue with this:

Small firms are not the end state of job creation: they are where big firms come from and it's the success of new big firms in new global markets that will determine the opportunities of American workers and the future of the American Dream.

On the subject of large firms versus small firms, a statistic I've never seen, but would find very interesting is this: what fraction of growth in large enterprises is organic/internal vs. via acquisition. My instinct is that it's much more acquisition-driven than strictly organic. Innovation really happens in SMB's. Second, the economies of scale inherent in an industrial economy are not nearly as clear in information and technology-driven economy. Large firms' standout advantage in this context is around raising money and assuming risks. And who's to say that American SMB's will not be acquired by large foreign (including Chinese) enterprises? I think an absolute dedication to free trade needs to be offset by consideration of the very real economic and security risks of not allowing businesses or even entire industries to be taken out the country. Self-sufficiency is often enough of an economic goal to merit whatever wealth sacrifices come from trade barriers.

Isn't the zero sum game analogy mistaken? Most businesses form alliances and other combinations with businesses they also compete with. Additionally successful companies locate not just near their home countries but in the home of their biggest consumers. Thus Toyota and Nissan manufacture cars in the United States. There are outsourcing relationships with countries all over the world.

If U.S. businesses really stop being able to hire Americans who would benefit? The oil producers who count on America's use of oil or China and Japan or Europe who depend on American consumers to buy their products and to provide captial for their expansion?

Wouldn't it be better to leave the nationalistic jingoism behind and look at ways to expand global consumerism and capital?

Daniel A. Greenbaum

So your model for future US economic development is the Telecom Act of 1996 and the stock bubble?

According to Common Cause, the results of that legislation have been vastly increased media concentration, a 50% increase in cable rates between 1996 and 2003, a 20% increase in local phone rates (not to mention a tremendous reduction in telecom services to poor urban and rural communities) and giving away for free $70 billion worth of digital TV licenses to broadcasters for free.

And you want to do this for health care and energy?

And the result of the stock bubble and its decline was a huge misallocation of capital to firms that never had a hope of making a profit, enormous wealth destruction when the bubble burst, with huge increases in insecurity for families whose jobs and retirement savings went down the toilet.

Do you really believe your own rhetoric? "Not government but people acting together on the Web is the secret of survival for the American Dream." Really? Wow, that's just so profound. Did you make that up yourself or just read from a Heritage foundation policy brief? I mean, who do you think is going to provide the "reliable public benefits" and economic security to allow more people to become entrepreneurs? Google?

people acting together on the Web is the secret of survival for the American Dream

You're bad! You should stop being mean to Reed, just because of facts and things like that.

Don't you know that it people act together on the web, and I don't know, sing 'kumbaya' or something, then the American dream will survive? Follow Reed.

And oh yeah, remember to clap your hands and say you believe in fairies, or Tinkerbelle gets it!

people acting together on the Web is the secret of survival for the American Dream

That, and a pony.

There really is a different standard for white men, isn't there.

Basically, if you're a white guy, with a clean shirt, a necktie and good haircut... that's all thats needed.

Amazing.

I see it over and over, but it's still amazing every time.

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China's... state-supported, mostly unplanned...

So its 'accidentally' state supported? The chinese government was walking along, tripped and it turned out there were corporations under it? Or something? It strikes me that 'unplanned state support' is something of a miracle, sort of like a two headed calf, but one of those heads being an aardvarks.

If most American firms do not defeat their Chinese rivals in the American market, their American employees will be worse off.

And if the sun does not shine, it gets dark. There's lots more of this kind of thing from Mistah Reed.

The right response lies not in income redistribution, trade barriers, the projection of military power, or even a national strategic policy.

A national strategic policy is Baaaaaad!

Energy and health care are the two big sectors that should be opened by law to competition from new entrants and responsive entrepreneurship from incumbents. We need a Telcom Act of 96 to be written for those industries in 2008.

Except, apparently, when it isn't.

Speaking of Energy didn't we already deregulate Energy back in the 80's and 90's. Isn't that where Enron came from? Rolling blackouts? The big power failure of 2004?

Methinks our Mistah Reed is prescribing a cure which has already cause considerable suffering to the patient.

As for Health Care, at its current level of consuming 15% of the GDP, whereas most eurosocialist nations are at 5 to 10%, I can only assume that our hero is advocating either socialized one party medicine, or to privatize and deregulate the system even further... Can America stand a partial and selective health care system that consumes 20 or 25% of the GDP? Yikes.

But wait...

There's nothing harder than passing and implementing laws that open closed, incumbent-dominated, change-resistant markets. But the architectures of law, technology, and leadership all have to be redesigned so as to be biased toward open entry, access, and competition.

But that's not a national strategic policy. No sir!

Ah well. But one thing we can say is that income redistribution is a bad thing. Or at least, income redistribution is not the way to go!

American workers ought to be supported by reliable public benefits as they create start-up's, move to new jobs in new firms, and intensify their personal commitment to entrepreneurship. They should have very cheap access to college educations, easy credit for starting firms, portable and individualized savings accounts, cheap and universal broadband communications.

Or maybe not.

Perhaps Mistah Reed is thinking of some form of reliable public benefits, cheap education, start up credit, and communications subsidies that do not amount to a redistribution of wealth.

Perhaps these things will be delivered by the Easter Bunny at no cost. You never know.

Seriously.

The Internet is the medium for firm creation and entrepreneurship in the 00's and future decades. It encourages the formation of groups and collaborative activities that can manifest and strengthen the culture of entrepreneurship.

Mistah Reed also says 'save your polyester Disco clothes, because flared pants are going to make a comeback, too!'

Not government but people acting together on the Web is the secret of survival for the American Dream.

Right on, Bro! After all, government can't do anything, its people power! Well, not people power cause that sounds vaguely communist, but you know what he means. The point is that its that Australian pluck and determination, and a few cans of 'Roo-Away' that will pull this country through (SCTV reference, don't worry about it) that will pull this country through. It's all about the Libertarianism man, Randy Weaver is the future.

But the point is that Government is completely useless, except for supporting American workers by providing reliable public benefits as they create start-up's, move to new jobs in new firms, and intensify their personal commitment to entrepreneurship, and for providing very cheap access to college educations, easy credit for starting firms, portable and individualized savings accounts, cheap and universal broadband communications, and of course passing and implementing laws that open closed, incumbent-dominated, change-resistant markets so that the architectures of law, technology, and leadership are all redesigned so as to be biased toward open entry, access, and competition, including opening markets to entrepreneurship, to start-up's, to experiment, chaos, collaboration, confusion, and creative destruction, specifically opening by law energy and health care to competition from new entrants and responsive entrepreneurship from incumbents... while at the same time avoiding income redistribution and a national strategic policy.

Hmmm... maybe that should be 'mostly useless', or 'somewhat useless', or 'useless if you squint with ideological goggles and have a concussion.'

But you know, apart from those minor things, Government has no role. It's just individual pluck and determination.

Uh huh.

Right.

I see.

I should note that these conclusions came as a surprise to Mistah Reed. They were a mighty big shock and awe you might say. He was surely bamfoozled and conflabbergasted. Yessah, it surely was a surprise to him.

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Okay, let me be as fair as possible to read. Quite often, in making complex arguments, it is necessary to start by making very simple and clear observations which border upon being trite and obvious... as Reed seems to be doing here. Carefully setting out first principles, even obvious first principles, is a sound way to proceed. So, I guess I shouldn't really fault him for that.

And the world is a very complex place, so quite often phenomena feature concepts that contain apparent contradictions - 'Jumbo Shrimp' 'Little Big Horn' 'Military Intelligence' and 'Unplanned State Support.' The cognitive dissonance may be arresting, but there may be an underlying coherence.

Likewise the cognitive dissonance of Reed's calling for massive state intervention in and direction of the economy, a national strategic policy and large scale income redistribution... while at the same time claiming that these things are not the answer, may be explainable and coherent in the framework of a larger and more systematic thesis. Or may simply amount to Reed defining different things differently.

The emphasis on internet telecommunications, energy and health care may not be a sign of looking forward to the past and being hopelessly out of touch, but perhaps a recognition of untapped evolutionary potential in these fields, and the need and opportunities to solve the systemic problems therein.

If nothing else convinces you, it strikes me that nobody could spend three years working on a book and not have something useful to contribute.

So I'm prepared to give Reed some benefit of the doubt. So don't let this stop you from buying his book. In fact, I'd encourage you to buy his book.

All that said, its good to be a white guy.

Exactarifficamently!!!

Let's both get shovels and start digging. I bet there's a pony in there somewhere.

I'm a free trader but am surprised myself at seeing Reed so fully embrace market solutions. I thought that the whole idea of free trade involved government policy in other areas to regulate markets, to sustain competetiveness, and support those individuals who lose along the way.

And knocking incomes policies in this context is simply gratuitous, since growing inequality in America is a serious issue in its own right, as well as not one due exclusively to foreign competition, any more than we can always conflate the national debt with the trade deficit. (Hint: guess which one the Bush tax cuts for his wealthy cronies ran up soonest.) 

John 

http://www.haberarts.com/

I should add that I mean it when I say I was surprised. Wasn't Reed concerned about Bush free market policies that led to concentration in the media, an area in which he's direct government experience?

John 

http://www.haberarts.com/

The critiques of the details of what Reed proposes are legitimate ones.

But... 

Reed is right on the money on this point...

Income inequality in the United States is at record levels and is increasing. If national income goes down at the same time that inequality increases, the United States will over time cease to think of itself as a middle class nation. It will be riven by class conflict. Few will continue to believe in the American Dream. Wise political decisions will be hard to come by. Free trade will be at risk; and if the American reaction to these developments is to erect tariff barriers or to use war to try to assure export markets, then national income will decline even faster and internal conflict will worsen.

Unions are being "sacrificed" at the altar of the almighty "free market".  Our employers are not giving us health benefits and covering prescription costs in order to remain "globally competitive".  And eveything in our economy is costing more even though it costs less to make in quasi-slave labor countries like China.  We end up paying more while making less.  I am no economist but it is obvious in my mind that something needs to be done or we (the American people) are going to be in deep do-do...but there is no "shared burden", the rich get what they want and for everybody else it is "everybody for themselves".  Eat or be eaten...the dialogue needs to begin to figure out what to do before it is too late.

Two questions. How do you control technicalogical change, as opposed to the free market? The computer, the robot, the internet far more than the markets have hurt labor and given capital more power.

Secondly, how do you limit the freemarket without limiting people's freedom? Shouldn't the more important focus be on policies that recognize that China's, India's and other countries rise and technology changes that reduce the need for labor are going to produce losers? The hardship of those losers need to be mitigated by social insurnace programs. Afterall who knows who will be a loser so all should pay in and all should benefit if needed.

Daniel A. Greenbaum

Very true, and even a broken clock is right twice a day.

But the fact that Mr. Hundt has been courageous enough (and that's not sarcastic, he is giving voice to an issue that is often hidden or avoided) to acknowledge the problem does not in itself mean that his 'off the shelf' solutions are meaningful.

Indeed, indications are that many of his solutions helped to create that problem.

Perhaps the true value of Mr. Reed's post is not in its solutions, but in its 'wake up' call.

I do want to reiterate I did say that the critiques of Reed's specifics were warranted. ;-)

 

But it is about the wake-up call and what Reed is speaking of is very important.  Americans are being crushed under the wheel of the global economy.  And before too long we we will ground into "grist" unless we do something.  Bottom line is prices have to come down, wages/benefits have to increase or both...

I agree with most of what you have to say Daniel...

I think (gasp) that we need more socialism in our culture.  Free Markets and Capitalism is amoral.  It is all about making money and the notion of the "public good" doesn't jive with the tenets of capitalism.  Part of the problem is our government has slanted the rules in favor of the US corporations.  Let's say in the global economy there are pharmacuetical companies that can provide drugs to the American consumer at a much lower cost then the US companies are willing to supply those drugs.  Will our markets be open to that competition?  Or will the domestic companies be allowed to continue to reap the windfall off the American people, while supplying drugs to the rest of the world at more competitive prices?

I am all for freedom, including in the marketplace.  But we don't have freedom in our marketplace.  Right now we are just looking for capital access for our corporations to other markets when the term "free markets" is used. 

We do have a problem with India and China.  It would be less of a problem if those benefits are passed on to the American consumers...but in terms of our policies it isn't about benefit to the American people but only to American corporations...that ain't the freedom of a "global economy".  The markets are far from free from what I see.

That is my take...but again I am not an economist.

You sure have a love for entrepreneurship. Nothing wrong with that, but as soon as American firms start making a new product, which becomes popular, the Chinese simply respond by making it cheaper while ignoring patents & copyrights.

That's not free-market competition. It's state-supported robbery.

Another example of why we are losing in the global economy...insurance companies.

I used to work in "the industry" at GenRe (Warren Buffet's General Reinsurance).  The insurance industry screams about needing tort reform...but they love the big verdicts that go against their insureds.  It gives them license to jack up premiums to astronomical levels, legalized extortion.  They love when disasters strike because their insureds can be charged more because of "increased risk" they allegedly pose.  When one of their insured hospitals or doctors get hit with a big malpractice verdict they jack up med malpractice premiums on doctors, then they jack up premiums on individuals for their medical insurance.  They moan and bitch, but they make money no matter what.  There is a joke in the insurance industry that "Insurance" is just as good as making book because the insurers never lose money, just like the bookies.  And the beauty of it is that it is all legal.  The only way to make health care affordable is to take the insurance companies out of the picture or the costs will continue to sky rocket...which is a large drag on the average American's economic health and our national economy.

 

My point being that threats to our economy are just as much internal as they are "external"...

The slides are a lot more informative and interesting than this post.

The tired anti-government rhetoric is even more puzzling when you think about the range of gov't policy changes the author is proposing: additional public investment in R&D and telecom, upgrade science and math education, cheap credit for small businesses, sector-specific policies for telecom, energy, health care, new social policies like portable pension plans, guaranteed health care, free education, wage insurance, reform of intellectual property law (did I miss anything).

Sounds fine to me, but you're not going to get there with CATO-style arguments.

Why not instead emphasize the importance of open, democratic government under the rule of law as a crucial institutional support to free individuals to pursue their dreams, while rebuilding the American economy at the same time?

One of the major problems we face is insurance companies.  In order to sell largely useless insurance policies those companies pay very high sales commissions to people who sell their policies.  By that I mean as much as 50% of what you pay for a Medicare Part D policy can end up in the pockets of intermediaries, salesmen.  That is not the road to a good economy in our country.  (A good salesman can fairly easily make $200,000+ per year selling insurance, and the renewals which the salesman may never lift a finger to get, keep on paying big bucks for years.)

Another point:  Remember when the Northeast was the center of industy in this country?  What happened?  The South, primarily, was willing to accept far lower wages and benefits for workers, so the industry left the Northeast and went south.  Today the same is happening worldwide.  Nations whose workers demand the wages they are accustomed to lose jobs as industry goes seeking workers willing to work for far less.  I see no answer to that problem.  And, we cannot sustain an economy by sitting, as I am, at a computer, typing.  I haven't seen a viable solution yet.

Of course I am ignoring the solution that is working in Europe.  It is Socialism.  If the basics of life are guaranteed, by being provided by our taxes, and taxes are progressive enough to prevent huge wealth accumulation, then it is possible, perhaps, to maintain acceptable living standards even though most manufacturing is done elsewhere.  But, I wouldn't dare propose such a solution - can't be exposed to being called a Commie, you know. 

Hoppy in Sacramento

Damn you nailed it Hoppy...

 

I live in the northeast and all our manufacturing jobs have gone south...literally and figuratively.  But now even the jobs that were moved south are being sent overseas.  All that matters is that the shareholders and other investors make money.  But what is happening to that money they are making?  Is it being reinvested back into our economy like we were told it would?  Hell no.

 

Ironically CT used to be the center of the insurance universe but even those jobs are being exported to other parts of the country.  Your points about the insurance industry are right on the money.  There are agents/brokers...primary companies...reinsurers...retrocessionaires...etc, etc, etc who all get a cut.  And what are they producing in terms of economic good?  They are just syphoning off more and more money from the economy for their shareholders while producing nothing for the economy.

 

The energy industry is another example too.  The companies who supply our power are given monopolistic control of markets basically setting rates however they see fit.  And then they look for rate hikes to improve their infrastructure instead of investing in infrastructure with their own capital.  Gas and Oil are the same way.  In fact their lobbyists have opposed CAFE standards and exploration of cheaper fuel sources, more effective engines that will improve milage vehicles get and even mass transit in the past.  They have good lobbyists...

 

But when all these examples are woven into a tapestry the picture becomes very clear what the problem with our economy is.  And the reason China/India is a threat to our economy is because our corporations are making money in these countries...so I think blaming China or India for the state of our economy is building a strawman.

 

I think a good healthy dose of socialism is just what this country needs but alas your "commie" comment is right on the money too.  But there needs to be balance between corporate profits and the public good...

I totally agree with you that Markets and Capitalism are amoral. It is a good thing that they are. They leave room for individuals to estabilish their own morality and be free. I do not want to give the government too much, not none, control over people's lives.

It has always puzzled me that William Bennett and Bill O'Reilly are such big proponents of freemarkets and traditional values. Especially O'Reilly' "death of Christmas" crusades. Nothing overturns tradition more than capitalism.

I run my own company. I have raised money from investors. Money talks louder than work. People do not have to part with their capital. If companies, and countries need capital for all manner of things they can try taxing their population until work is unprofitable or they can make conditions attractive for those with capital.

I am not sure what you mean about the "benefits being passed on to American consumers." Isn't that why Walmart is the largest retailer in America? Americans are the ultimate consumers.

Daniel A. Greenbaum

I am not sure what you mean about the "benefits being passed on to American consumers." Isn't that why Walmart is the largest retailer in America? Americans are the ultimate consumers.

 

Sure Walmart is giving the American consumer products at a lower price.  Or are they?  The stuff they are peddling is being made at a fraction of the cost that it used to cost but the retail prices do not fully reflect that.  They have basically a monopoly on retail in the US which is anti-competitive.  And the cost of all the under-insured and un-insured Americans is being passed on to all of us in terms of our taxes having to be used to subsidize those people and in higher medical insurance costs.  So I am not sure that there are savings for the American consumer courtesy of Wal-Mart...

A problem here is that I think I understand what you mean by "socialism", but many would think of it in the classic definition where the government owns the means of production.

The approach that seems to work, especially in Scandinavia, needs a different name to be understood in a US context. "Social democracy" seems fairly common usage in Europe and Canada [Note 1], but we really don't have a "USAian" phrase that conveys a safety net. Such a safety net, as others have suggested, may well be an economic boost, as more people create SMBs without the huge load of health insurance.

I don't mind if someone earns immense wealth. While I don't know British tax structure, Richard Branson seems to have done very well under it, and created thousands of jobs. While I might argue at times with their technical and business strategies, I have to say that Bill Gates and Steve Jobs have earned their fortunes.


[Note 1] In the social context, I find Canada more like a European country than the USA.

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Howard

*equal opportunity offense to both extremes*

Whatever the question, neoliberalism is the answer. Duh.

The American working class is fucked. The Democrats won't even try to help.

Neoliberalism. A solution desperately in search of a problem.

Not government but people acting together on the Web is the secret of survival for the American Dream

"Secret survival for the American Dream" is some over the top rhetoric, but I do think it's a fair point to make that Web 2.0/social computing and the economics of "The Long Tail" are opening up new business models for the future. 

The real question I have from this post is the notion that we need a "Telecom Act" for the energy and health care industries. That law resulted in an even greater concentration of ownership within the media industries, and helped turn news departments from public servants to profit centers. I don't see overall how it has served our interests.

News Corp. made out well, though.

Dissent Protects Democrac

Corvid

Neoliberalism got us into this ungodly mess with China, and the solution is more neoliberalism? Doubt it.
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China is nothing new. China has been THE objective of all trading nations for many generations. It's why the British were in Burma, the French were in Indochina and we were in the Philippines--all were parts of the world that didn't matter in themselves and never would amount to much alone but did afford access or a gateway into China.
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Note Mr. Hundt's apparent horror at the notion that, if we don't deal somehow with the threats posed by growing exposure to China, we might endanger "free trade" itself, the assumption being that free trade is some holy of holies that we dare not compromise in any way for whatever reason. But the solutions he proposes, while benign, will not and cannot, in any combination, amount to a hill of beans in the face of the avalanche of cheap Chinese labor and the challenges of the developing Chinese market.
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For many years, including most of the Cold War years, the United States had a policy of nurturing and fostering a variety of industries by combining free trade with flexible protectionist policies. It wasn't always practiced wisely, mistakes were made, but the economy grew, the middle class expanded and Americans at large had a sense that we were making progress and there was a bright future.
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That's gone. And we have zero chance of getting it back if 1) we don't first acknowledge and talk openly about the fact that the people who run this country are, under various guises, bound and determined to carry forward with this old and dangerous obsession with China, and 2) if we continue to hold up "free trade" as some great good in and of itself. It isn't. It's just one means toward an end (kind of like terrorism), can often be counterproductive and must be supplemented by wisely applied doses of protectionism. Of course, wisdom is always a scarce commodity, but that's why we're supposed to have a democracy, to sort these things out.

On point. The telecom act was a nearly unmitigated disaster for the general American public, in that it led to concentration and actually detroyed competition in the industry, with little or no government oversight. As a side effect rational discourse and public interest in newcasting has almost completely disappeared. Same with energy deregulation which gave us a fake energy crisis in California and Enron. Taking this approach to health care is exactly what we do not need.

The problems we are facing do not come from too much government interference, but rather a lack of rational regulation and tax and social policies that do nothing to foster and protect a middle class, which is fast disappearing. The solution for these problems lies in, among other things, reinstating a fair tax structure wherein marketplace distortions can be ameliorated by redistribution and things that the market has proven it is not a very good vehicle for providing, such as health care, can be handled by non profit motivated governmental organizations.

So called free markets are the new feudalism, and we are all on the way to becoming serfs. Globalization is not the answer to anything except increased corporate profits which do not filter down to the average worker. Corporate profit should not be the goal of society, rather the welfare of its citizens should.

What mess exactly are we in? In the 1980s we are looking at the "Pacifi Century" but the leader was going to be Japan rather than China. The Baby Tigers Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore and Taiwan were all growing at enormous rates. India is on its way to perhaps over taking China in growth.

The United States coming out of WWII was the dominant economic power. Things are now balancing out. Countries that were woefully poor are striving to broaden their middle clases. Technology means that insurance companies can send their paper work to Ireland and Dell can have their service done in India and Urguay. This also means that Walmart, Target, Kmart and Sears can offer Americans who do not sneer at consumer goos those good at lower prices.

Either Americans stop cowering in fear the left of globalism and the rigths of terrorism and compete or America will be overtaken and the dollar will cease being the reserve currency and things won't be so comfortable for Americans.

This is less a terrible problem with China but what happens when technology and other people make competition hard.

Daniel A. Greenbaum

Corvid

It's not a matter of "cowering" but rather of playing the game with some smarts and concern to avoid hollowing out our economic and technological base. Most indicators point to widening income disparities in this country, with those who benefit from globalization running off with the bank while the most of rest of us watch our household incomes and security go slowly, slowly down the hole. But we're supposed to be happy because we can buy jeans and electronic gadgets in greater bulk than we could otherwise?
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Japan and China are both very smart and aggressive players. I don't begrudge them this. And it's not that we're stupid. No one (including the Japanese) now beats Americans at finance and logistics--extending the supply lines as far, as cost effectively and creatively as possible. This is the very reason that globalization is accelerating so smoothly. But should we be so eagerly flinging away our ability to function as a coherent political and economic entity? Is it really such a hot idea to concentrate so much of a nation's talent and wealth in the impressive but narrow task of aggregating the brute labor and technological prowess of unstable, illiberal countries directly to the detriment of our own manufacturing and technological base (albeit to the short-term benefit of consumers)?
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Other people are indeed making competition hard. And we need to compete harder, no disagreement there. To do that, though, we can't just conjure up the scientists and engineers we need unless 1) we do something about schools and 2) provide a place for the newly minted scientists and engineers to be gainfully employed when they finish they're fabulously expensive educations. And you can't do that when you're outsourcing tasks and functions and importing brains and products.
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In the end, my interests are narrower than yours, I suppose. I first want to see a restored, vibrant United States and a thriving Western world that neither exploits nor burdens nor depends on others. Then I'd like to see the seeds of democracy and prosperity dispersed to those places without them that would like to duplicate what we've accomplished. I am a partisan of Western Civilization but bear no hostility toward others.

The Miserable Failure and the Beltway Intelligence Briefs

Gw Bush has failed to address China squarely on economic terms. He did his share of sabre rattling in April, 2001, after a US EP-3E Spyplane collided with a Chinese fighter, and landed on a Chinese Airbase. This assuredly created a tremendous amount of noise for Intelligence analysts to sift through, just 5 months prior to September 11, 2001. Bush has ignored China's global economic press since September 11, 2001 also.

China beat us at our own game in our own back yard in November 2004. To add insult to injury, the Bush first term appointee who should have been watching out for US interests, Robert Bruce Zoellick, US Trade Representative, was kicked upstairs to 2nd in command at State, early in 2005.

"When President Bush arrives here Friday for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Forum, he's likely to be met by student protesters already in the streets chanting against "globalization," "colonialism," and the US occupation of Iraq.

But China's President Hu Jintao is getting quite a different reception. For two weeks now, he's been cutting ribbons at new factories in Argentina, enjoying beef barbecues in Brazil, addressing congresses, and announcing investment projects as he and 150 Chinese businessmen make their way across South America and on to Cuba.

As in Asia and Africa, China is rapidly expanding its economic and diplomatic presence in Latin America. Frustration in this region over what is perceived as Washington's preoccupation with the war on terror, and US trade pacts that never quite get signed, coincides with a surge in exports and new trade deals with China.

'It is telling that Hu is spending more time in South America over this fortnight than Bush has in the past four years," says William Ratliff, a fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution. "Hu will come over as much more interested in Latin American people," he suggests. "His sweet, soft-power vibes leave Bush sounding like a foghorn.'

Danna Harman, "China eyes new turf: S. America", Christian Science Monitor, November 19, 2004

Bush showed up on November 20, 2004, for three inconsequential photo-ops,Chinese President Hu Jintao, Prime Minister Koizumi of Japan, and Canadian Prime Minister Martin, and then flew back home

This should have come as no surprise to the wonks, Hu Jintao, had been to South America late 2000. For the most part, the policy tanks remained quiet about China's locking up future resource production from South American for over six months. One that noticed offered a paranoid, protectionist, antimarket analysis:

"Chinese President Hu Jintao has spent more time in Latin America than George W. Bush. What are the Chinese up to?"

William Ratliff, "China Goes South of the Border", Hoover Digest 2005/1, February 10, 2005

Hu wasn't up to anything other than straight up capitalist manueuvering, and he kicked our butts.

In early 2005, China National Offshore Oil Corporation (CNOOC), made a bid to buy UNOCAL, and the beltway intelligence failures went anti-market wacko and started spouted nonsensical paranoid conspiracy theories about China's intent, which should have only been viewed as them looking to invest some of their trade surplus dollars in a viable business. What was really a shame about it is that if CNOOC had bought UNOCAL, no jobs would have been lost, as was the case in the eventual merger which took place.

Leon Hadar's articles published at Antiwar dot com are instructive:

Market protectionists Lindsey Graham and Charles Schumer aligned with red-scared Duncan Hunter and Richard Pombo. They were even able to pull 'free market' centrists Susan Collins and Evan Bayh into the fray on their side.

China has a tremendous surplus of dollars, if they get upset and dump them, the US economy will go into a tailspin. This would be painful to China as well, but keep giving them opportunities to make cost/benefit analysis like this one, and we may find that they've decided it is better to take the pain now, rather than later. If instead, they were invested in American infrastructure, they would have even greater incentive not to hurt us economically.

There is very little of the econmic situation between the US and China that is truly free, and i feel that your analysis blaming free markets for Americas' woes is wrong.

 First and foremost, there can be no free market if labour is restrained by international borders, but capital is not,  This is largely the cause of capital flight to cheaper labour markets.  Almost as important as a cause of non-free capitalism are international corporations whose sales are greater than the majority of countries'  GNP, and the fact that these NGO entities, are largely dealt with as one person in courts of law.  A market can never be free with non human entities wielding this much influence over them.  This leads to the present state of crony capitalism.

I don't have solutions, but just blaming 'free markets' for the woes is disingenuous. 

Corvid

But how would lifting the restraints on labor to move across borders provide any significant relief? Labor--for a host of reasons, among them cultural reasons, attachment of heart to home and the inconvenient fact that human beings are not automatons--could never be anywhere near as mobile as capital. This is sheer fantasy.
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And I'll just have to disagree with you about blaming free trade. First of all, that is not quite what I was attempting to say. Free trade between two similar nations--nations that share many cultural values, basic assumptions about the rights of human beings, about what constitutes a decent life, etc.--would be fine. Now, if the entire planet were in harmony on such matters, then global free trade would be wonderful. But this has to be a PREREQUISITE for constructive and universally beneficial free trade, not an afterthought.
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The free-trade fetishists would have us believe that we'll benefit from unrestrained trade even if all these other factors are out of whack. Or that, by degrees, we can nudge the cultural factors into alignment if we trade freely first. However, all the evidence so far points in the other direction, especially in China. And on the economic front, we see the cramdown that's happening in the United States, Europe and Japan. Whatever happened to the simple notion that progress should bring actual, evident improvements in the lives of all?
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In sum, I believe that--short of first establishing a global civil society (something far more benign than what we currently have here in the United States, so good luck) and swift and severe enforcement mechanisms--free trade in its very essence MUST include the flaws you describe and can only spread and magnify these flaws, entrenching "non-human entities" ever more deeply.
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Beyond that, global free trade is the banner cause of the growing financialization of our economy and our society--accompanied by accelerating deindustrialization, degraded public education, growing insecurity, widening income gaps and a money-driven political monoculture that smothers attempts to address these issues in any effective way. I don't see much to be cheery about.

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