Same Old GOP Song and Dance
Between the fifth anniversary of the September 11th terrorist attacks and plans to make this month 'Security September,' Congressional Republicans are going to work overtime the next few weeks to paint Democrats as soft on national security. President Bush and his Administration will join in the chorus through a series of speeches that are certain to be full of the same 'stay-the-course' rhetoric and attacks on Democratic resolve.
The fact is Democratic presidents have led our country in defeating tyranny and defending freedom for the last century. We continue that tradition today by pushing the Bush Administration to take a new direction in Iraq and to adopt better strategies in the war on terror.
Democrats believe that there must be a significant transition in Iraq this year. We want to implement the recommendations of the bipartisan 9/11 Commission, including improving the security of our ports and borders. We want to increase the resources dedicated to securing loose nukes. We want to redouble our efforts to find Osama Bin Laden, the true architect of the September 11th terrorist attacks, and ensure that Afghanistan becomes a stable, free nation. Finally, we want to strengthen our military, which has been dangerously overstretched the past five years.
In Washington over the next four weeks, and around the country in the weeks before the election, Democrats will not let Republicans get away with their campaign to smear Democrats and scare the American people. We will fight back and ensure that the American people know that Democrats are putting forward policies to make America safer and stronger."














Personally, I think it would be great if more Democrats stood up for me when Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney/Hannity/etc. call me a terrorist sympathizer or compare me to Nazi sympathizers for disagreeing with them, or when Katherine Harris implies I'd like to vote to legislate sin. This has been going on for five years and I'm pretty tired of it!
September 1, 2006 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
An online ad: “CNN has decided to mark the fifth anniversary of 9/11 by rerunning its news coverage of that day on its CNN Pipeline service, Yahoo! reports. The blow-by-blow account, running from 8.30 am until midnight ....” If you plan to watch this, even the first couple of hours during which time the twin towers came down, I recommend that you first search and read physics professor Stephen Jones’ article (by using just his name or www.physics.byu.edu/research) on his well-documented theory that the twin towers (and tower # 7) were brought down by explosives in a controlled demolition by chemicals that caused the buildings to implode. Then, if you now believe that there are questions that have not been answered, indeed that investigations have been stonewalled, you might want to investigate further. Scholars for 9-11 Truth and 9/11truth.org are, in my opinion, good places to start. Or just search 9/11 truth for a list of many Sites.
September 1, 2006 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you support Murtha's plan for a withdrawal "over the horizon"?
If not, what is the mission that US troops are now trying to accomplish? When will we know it has been accomplished? What are the benchmarks, and the deadlines, for achieving those results? Or do you envisage an open-ended commitmentment of US troops to Iraq, similar to deployment of US troops in Europe throughout the Cold War? If so, how do you propose to fund that ongoing commitment, and how will you pay for the expansion of the military that will be necessary to sustain it? Given that polls show that a majority of Americans are in favor of withdrawing from Iraq in the next year, how would you plan to change people's minds on this topic?
Do you support permanent US bases in Iraq?
We learn today that Jim Webb is seeing his son off to fight in Iraq. Do you have any family members stationed in Iraq?
Do you believe that the threat of Iran obtaining nukes is sufficiently immediate that we should consider bombing their nuclear sites in the next 6-12 months? Given the difficulties with locating Iranian bunkers well enough for conventional weapons, do you support the use of nuclear bunker busters? Are you worried about nuclear fallout from such weapons e.g. in Tehran. If you support bombing, how do you propose to protect the supply lines from Kuwait to US troops in Iraq that go through the Shiite south of Iraq?
I could go on, but you get the idea. If you can't answer these questions for me, what will you do when Wolf starts reading off the questions that Ken mailed to him?
September 1, 2006 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Democrats believe that there must be a significant transition in Iraq this year.
Bold!
Now I'm no Nostradamus, but I confidently predict there will be numerous transitions in Iraq this year; and with equal confidence I predict that several of these transitions will be be significant.
But way to get out in front of the pack and lead, Representative Hoyer!
September 1, 2006 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...take a new direction in Iraq and to adopt better strategies in the war on terror."
The direction to take in Iraq is the one leading out the door. If that is hard to understand, we need to begin a withdrawal of US forces in Iraq, and complete it in a few months. Iraq is embroiled in a civil war between the clans or religious factions there. Our country has no part to play in another nation's civil war. Our role should be to stand by and be ready to help the winner rebuild the country, since we started the whole mess, and did most of the damage.
The "better strategies in the war on terror" have to start with recognizing that there is no war on terror. The "global war on terror" is a political gimmick aimed at keeping the Bush regime in power, and it has succeeded. Now is the time to find something worthwhile to do, such as rebuilding the damage from Hurricane Katrina, beefing up ocean shipping terminal security, finding a way to regain our economic strength by distributing more of our wealth away from the extremely wealthy, ending the domination of Congress by lobbyests, eliminating the use of redistricting of congressional districts to keep one party in power, providing national health insurance so no one is without health care, and on and on.
Leave the nonsense about wars and terrorism to the Republicans.
Hoppy in Sacramento
September 1, 2006 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
"If you support bombing, how do you propose to protect the supply lines from Kuwait to US troops in Iraq that go through the Shiite south of Iraq?"
Or, if during the bombings of Iran, she learns the Turks have allowed Israel and US to make use of Turkish airspace, can you guarantee that the essential hub of Incirlik will remain unscathed?
Have all 90 of those old nukes that were stored there finally been removed just in case?
September 1, 2006 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
What was sold by Bush et al. as a $10 billion war that would make us safer is now a $1 trillion war, when hidden costs are counted, that has made the whole world incalculably less safe, creating a national debt that will be used to push national health insurance and alternative energy technology development out of the picture for decades to come.
September 1, 2006 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Give Iraq back to Saddam and send boy George back to Texas!
I know what you're thinking - and you're wrong. Texan's would take him back.
September 1, 2006 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't recall Bush, Rumfeld or Cheney calling you (or any Dem politician) a terrorist sympathizer. Please stick with facts.
Hannity is a blow hard.
Katherine Harris is a kook.
I believe those are facts we can both agree on.
September 1, 2006 10:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rep. Hoyer -- with all due respect, the idea that Democrats can "push" the Bush Administration into taking a new direction in Iraq is simply foolish. And that wish list -- securing nukes, finding Osama bin Laden? You might as well add a pony or a unicorn to that.
Bush has made himself quite clear -- we are not leaving Iraq under his watch. Rumsfeld offered his resignation twice -- Bush refused. Permanent bases are being built.
Nothing will change while Bush is in office.
This post is filled with the same old mushy Democratic lines that inspire no one. If you want to lead, then lead. But Democrats have to stop talking about how they are going to lead, and actually do it:
Call for Rumsfeld's resignation. Bring up an amendment like Boxer will do in the Senate next week. Back Murtha's plan. Have every Congressional Dem go on TV and explain to people there is a civil war in Iraq, and we are caught in the middle. Call for an investigation into the WMD intel that came from Cheney's office. Let people know that when they vote Democratic in November, there will be accountability for all the Republican incompetency.
But, please, stop saying you're going to push the Bush Administration anywhere. You are not.
If you want a change in Iraq, you need to REMOVE the Bush Administration first.
Dissent Protects Democracy.
September 2, 2006 5:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't recall Bush, Rumfeld or Cheney calling you (or any Dem politician) a terrorist sympathizer.
May I humbly suggest that you read, or re-read Cheney's speeches (especially the most recent) when he talks about those who want to leave Iraq giving comfort to "AlQaeda types." And to Rummy's last speech where he refers to those who haven't learned from history about appeasement -- drawing a line from dot to dot, joining those who think the war is wrong with those who allowed Hitler to gain strength. The message is loud and clear that those who disagree with the Bush cabal are friends of AlQaeda, and would roll over for Hitler.
Now, Bush is the "good cop" lately. He says with a disgusting smirk (because he knows he is lying, and he knows the reporter he is lying to knows he is lying, and he also knows that NO ONE will challenge him when he lies) that his speeches are not political; that he understands that some people disagree with him, and that (because he is The Decider, and has all this hard work to do) if people don't like him, that's OK.
Please stick with facts.
Them's the facts. Like it or not!
Jan Knaus
September 2, 2006 5:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even Texas is too good for Bush --> send him to the Hague to answer for his crimes.
Jan Knaus
September 2, 2006 5:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
In 2004 Kerry tried running to the right of Bush on Iraq. Another mistake.
Iraq is the defining political issue of our time. It is very relevant to domestic issues: money that could be spent e.g. on domestic infrastructure (such as levees) is instead bleeding into the Iraqi sand. Voters know it. Anybody who tries to ignore Iraq is not serious.
But what position do the Democrats take on Iran? I mean, they have thought about it, right?
September 2, 2006 6:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Any transition?
Would a transition to a full-fledged civil war qualify?
If not, what transition might we be talking about?
New direction in Iraq?? What direction? East toward Iran? Or West back to the US? You need to tell us those things, because we just don't know.
September 2, 2006 7:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
And don't forget corners turned!!
Whatever you think of Iraq, this kind of mealy-mouthed DLC triangulation crap won't work politically anymore, and it never had any value substantively. Don't say we need a new direction, say clearly what goddam direction you want to go in. Don't say Democrats need to show leadership, show some damn leadership. (this could apply to just about every centrist timid-toe-in-the-water spotlight junkie in both Dem Caucuses, from Biden to Obama to HR Clinton).
That said, I'll give Rep. Hoyer credit for bringing up the recommendations of the 9/11 commission. That's serious stuff, and a good place to start talking about security, even if, unfortunately, it won't fit on a bumber sticker or in between screeches on the Tweety Show. I only wish he'd mentioned those NJ chemical plants along with ports and borders. That's some scary stuff.
September 2, 2006 8:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't recall Bush, Rumfeld or Cheney calling you (or any Dem politician) a terrorist sympathizer.
Obviously, then, you need to pay more attention to current events.
Dissent Protects Democracy.
September 2, 2006 8:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
...and Bush never said there was a connection between Saddam and 9/11. And George Allen isn't a racist. And Joe Lieberman is a good Democrat. And Joe Wilson was the one who outed his wife. And Rudy Giuliani's adultery was totally different that Bill Clinton's. And John McCain is a straight-shooting, stand up guy. And no could have anticipated all the things that people told Condi Rice and Michael Chertoff were going to happen.
Any other "facts" you'd like to trot out? Even though I kind of think you don't really know what a "fact" is. It's not something Bill O'Reilly says on the "Factor".
September 2, 2006 8:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
The thinking of Iraq war diehards is if America pulls out of Iraq, America's credibility will be irreparably damaged - which of course it was when we invaded Iraq under false pretenses. Mr. Bush insists on keeping his military in a country where a civil war is raging so now the world judges America's president to be a fool. So here we are - we've lost our credibility as a nation and we're ruled by a fool. And apparently we the people are willing to maintain this miserable status quo until our Constitution demands we hold a presidential election. Is this called apathy or stupidity?
September 2, 2006 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Democrats believe....
Well, I've been a Democrat since my parents took me to see JFK when I was 9 and since I followed McCarthy's kids, cast my first vote for George McGovern and supported every Minnesota Democrat through Paul Wellstone.
BUT -- I will NOT vote for Hoyer's agenda and for the first time this year I will NOT vote for the Democrat running for the Senate in Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar, because she has taken these same phony tough, mire ourselves in Iraq, throw money at the military and health care be damned positions.
Fortunately, we have an Independent candidate who sounds a lot more sensible than the Greens, he's to my right on economic policy (but so is the DLC so what difference does that make) and he is for getting out of Iraq NOW. He will get my vote.
So win without me, Hoyer. You've gone so far to the right, I can find even center-right parties to your left.
Americans see through this mush. If they vote against Republicans, they are voting against Republicans not for this unbelieveable stand for nothing, no ideas but ones we can steal from somebody else excuse for an agenda. Could you tell me what you are going to do about Iraq, please? Just give me a clue? What is in the secret case? Am I buying the $1 trillion war suitcase or am I buying the $10 health care budget suitcase or just what is your secret plan for the American people?
What we've got is an election between chickenhawks and chickenhearts.
The real third way has got to be a third party.
September 2, 2006 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
All you have to do these days is be a Congressional Democrat exposing yourself to Democrats and progressives "out here" to suffer a blizzard of rotten tomatoes. Trouble is, they're deserved.
I agree with the third party idea -- can't see a way out of it at this point -- but I'm sorry to see the Democrats walking so limply away from the big issues. I'm sorry they're taking the good name of the Party with them.
I don't think all Democratic representatives are sad sacks. What I'd like to hear from Rep. Hoyer is something of the truth of why Democrats in the House have been proven unable to fight effectively. Yes, they are in the minority, but not that small a minority! Nearly six years of staggering around looking pathetic! Maybe it's difficult to stand up straight on that slippery right-leaning slope they've chosen! Yikes!
September 2, 2006 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Forget Iraq! A Democratic win this year will have little to do with setting a new foreign policy.
What it will do is provide 18 months of investigations of Bush incompetence and Republican corruption and convince the American people that electing a Democrat to the Presidency in 2008 is the only answer for a country headed in the wrong direction.
September 2, 2006 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
We cannot afford to forget the American double standard.
1)The U.S. is "evil" and "oppressive" if it unjustly employs its military for broad economic gains.
2)The U.S. is "evil" and "conceited" if it minds its own business because the "world" needs American aid to fight poverty, AIDS, and fascism.
When Bush and the Neocons leave office it will be paramount that OUR government formulates the new "direction" without letting the jaded international community have its way.
September 2, 2006 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's see. Democrats get their microphones shut off during committee hearings by the GOP chairman. Every time the Dems call a press conference, Bush calls one and says nothing new but takes away press coverage. Little if any Dem sponsored legislation makes it to the floor. Votes are held open many, many hours to bully or bribe moderate GOP (see e.g. DeLay). Compromise in the Senate is essentially thrown away during committee.
Yes, its very easy to "fight" in this environment--the House was called a "plantation" for a reason. Pay attention and you may see more going on than you give credit for.
September 2, 2006 11:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
But "Gore is just like Bush"...
September 2, 2006 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
And while you're paying attention -- per gqmartinez's advice -- take a look at Off-Center.
September 2, 2006 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
All 18 months of investigations would do is even more thoroughly convince Americans that Democrats haven't had an idea of their own in the last 30 years.
September 2, 2006 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heard recently that the Iraq War is costing more than the entire world spends on AIDS. We'd do better electing Bill Gates. He is actually competent and he even gives a damn about the poor. We don't have a major party that can claim either.
September 2, 2006 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gettysburg.
Your 'logic' as usual stands out on the blog, fitting the topic like a square peg in a round hole.
Economic gains for who? The American middle class?
Too bad the 'jaded international community', ex Britain and the Coalition of the Billing, did not 'have it's way' before George's misunderestimated invasion and bloodbath in Iraq. Seems like George set his own pre-emptive course. Lots of foreigners think many Americans are 'jaded' for supporting a clearly incompetent administration and President and his fiasco of a war.
September 2, 2006 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bronto
I specifically mentioned that the U.S. government AFTER the Bush administration must be sure to formulate its own agenda based on the interests of Americans, not the international community (which will likely demand some sort of pennance on the part of the U.S. for the sins of the past 8 years).
We cannot let that happen. Do we need to rethink our strategies to ensure that self-serving administrations never again impose their will so manifestly? Absolutely. Should we cave to international pressure by completely their checklist of Things To Do? Absolutely not.
Our own actions, if rooted in just just causes and peace loving desires, will do plenty to expunge our past evils.
September 2, 2006 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jan, you rock!
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September 2, 2006 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you. I don't think we can or should ignore it.
Polls (from what I have seen posted here) claim the American people are starting to trust the democrats more then the repugs for handling terrorism/security issues. I think the dems should stress going after "real" terrorists and stop trying to use "terrorism" and wars of agression waged against other sovereign nations to further our country's global-economic power. Not every regime in the ME we don't get along with are terrorists.
September 2, 2006 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
They need to talk to John Edwards. He's got decent, doable plans for health care and getting folks to work for fair wages.
It's time to concentrate on domestic issues--bigtime. I think as long as democrats stress that going after the real terrorists will take international cooperation and good police work, (evident in Europe), that they'll get the vote. It's also incredibly CHEAPER to do it that way.
It's true populism isn't a new idea, but it's cetainly a new direction, a direction that's been derailed between the DLC and the repubs. America works better when we have a strong, viable middle class.
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September 2, 2006 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, we have no comments here from Rep. Hoyer. Let's at least hope one of his staffers prints them and and he reads them.
It would be good to hear what the little people are saying in reponse, no?
Dissent Protects Democracy.
September 3, 2006 5:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Very difficult in that environment, but certainly not impossible, not beyond the capabilities of a serious politician or for someone who really cares about the country. Worst of all, watch how Democratic Reps slip and slide around constituents' questions when they are in their home district; study individual public statements. Few, if any, visible profiles in courage.
Both parties have disgraced themselves during this period -- the Republicans take the cake when it comes to disgraceful governance, but it's embarrassing to watch Democrats rushing to pick up their crumbs.
September 3, 2006 5:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I see Casey takes the Hoyer position on MTP this morning. He would have voted for the war knowing what he knew then (apparently he didn't know much then) and he can't be pinned down on whether he'd vote for the war now knowing what he knows now (not that you can tell what he knows now). He's not for staying the course, but he is for staying put. He's for more military spending and more saber rattling at Iran.
Health? Education? Environment? Didn't hear word one.
If you want fear and war and more fear and more war and more fear and more war after that (pro-life wars, of course) we've got two parties for you here in America.
If you want a clean, healthy, peaceful, educated environment in which to raise your children, try Canada, Europe, or Australia.
September 3, 2006 8:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I'm glad he got to say exactly where he stands on the important issues of the day! I'll sleep better at night now!
Jan Knaus
September 3, 2006 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a real test for Dems, particularly in Congress, with respect to pressuring their colleagues and the Administration to let the public know the content of the latest National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq before the elections. It was pressure from Senate Dems which brought about the latest NIE and now it's a matter of making sure voters know about it before November.
September 3, 2006 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink