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I'd always thought that only worked when there was lots of volcanic activity in the area, as in Iceland. According to Malcolm Gladwell and his dad, however, it just takes a hole in the ground and some pipes and can be done anyplace you have the space to dig the necessary trenches.


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I'm getting tired of these motherfucking snakes in this motherfucking geothermal trench!

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The system described, with heat exchange loops laid in shallow trenches, isn't the only one available. I have a largish pond in my backyard, and an excellent well, so I have open to me two other options not mentioned: The loops can be laid in the bottom of the pond, or the system can simply run off well water.

I'm planing on investing in that latter version, as the payback time vs my current propane heat is about a year. Which is darned close to printing money!

Once correction, though, to the Gladwell's description, in case they've scared anyone unnecessarilly about combustion furnaces: They *do* burn oxygen, but the air that's had it's oxygen consumed goes out visa this system called a "chimney", rather than being breathed by the house's occupants.

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Geothermal and wind power indeed have potential. Has anyone considered, however, quantifying and harnessing the hot air produced and blown at high speed by a session of Congress? Of course, the density and level of waste energy is probably substantially higher at a Presidential press conference.

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*equal opportunity offense to both extremes*

This system has been around for a long time. In France, it's known as a puit provençal (Provence well), used in the South East of the country to cool houses during the summer. The underground piping used to be made of terracotta, which had the additional benefit of balancing the hygrometry of the cooled air.

Gladwell version is a bit more sophisticated but is pretty much in the same vein.

PS: Oh, yeah. I forgot. Watch out for radon in regions with basalt or granite bedrocks. Inproperly designed, those underground exchangers can transform themselves in radon collectors.

No, you can't have your own facts!

Add shale, dirty quartz sedimentary rocks, and phosphate deposits as other sources of radon.

A friend of mine built a new house in central Illinois, where it tends to get a bit hot in the summer. His air conditioning bills with a ground-coupled heat exchanger were about 20% of similar convetionally-AC'd houses in the area. He figured a 4 year payback.

Admittedly he also had 5 acres to work with.

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=== Inproperly designed, those underground exchangers can transform themselves in radon collectors.===

So the radon makes its way through the walls of one set of pipes (buried in the ground), through the fluid in the primary heat exchanger, through the walls of a second set of pipes, and then through the walls of a 2nd heat exchanger (in your air handling unit)? Color me a bit skeptical on that one.

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Sorry about the formatting on that one; the Edit button wouldn't let me fix it.

sPh

=== Has anyone considered, however, quantifying and harnessing the hot air produced and blown at high speed by a session of Congress? ===

In US history? I think Poor Richard was the first to propose it, but I doubt the idea was original with him. The Babylonians probably had the same thought.

sPh

Ah, no. The system he's talking about involves simply drawing air into the house through buried pipes. No heat pump, fluid, or heat exchanger.

Brett Bellmore has an environmentally sound backyard? What is the world coming to.

Yup, sixteen acres of enviromentally sound pond, brush, and woods. Can't hunt and fish in a parking lot, after all. ;)

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