Question of the Day

Do you expect the rate of terror alerts and 'foiled plot' arrests to spike in the run-up to the November election as they did in the lead up to the 2004 presidential?

I'm writing a column on this question. And there's just no getting around the fact that there were terror alerts galore for a year or so before November 2004 and more or less nuthin' for about a year and a half after.

What do you think is coming down the pike in the next four months?


Comments (118)

Yes, very similar in design to how talk of "the deficit," "abortion," and "gay marriage" are only discussed every two years. Coincidence? I think not.

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They've tried that, but they've cried "wolf!" so many times it just won't have much effect.

That won't stop them from trying again, though.

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The terror alerts were pretty obviously intended to sway public opinion so they had to be retired for a while. Foiled terror plots are the new terror alerts.

My guess is that the number of "foiled plots" that get trumpeted will drop off until October. An orange alert or two in the mean time will keep the fear primed. Also, since it worked last time, I wouldn't be surprised if bin Laden releases a new tape at the beginning of November.

J. McCutchen "JmacSF"

San Francisco. CA

 

I'd be careful if I were RoveBush. If you saw the newsconference announcing the Playboy Terrorist "plot", the FBI spokesperson was clearly upset over the leak. Instant commentary from well-conditioned terrorism experts told us that this was evidence of media irresponsibility, the agent's pique had to be over damage to on-going investigations.

Well, he was pissed because he had to stand up there in Bush's election year dog and pony show.

Who knows? The Republicans are pretty desperate - maybe they'll pick Khalid Sheik Mohamed's brain or dig up some more anthrax.

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I certainly think it would be prudent to avoid Indiana. The state is a virtual cornucopia, a huge neon lit target for evildoers. See Josh on the TPM main page. I would defer to the intellect of Brittany Spears, and FOX News pundits, trust Bush. The man is such a straight shooter. He has done such a good job so far keeping the body count down to only 25,000 or so dead or wounded Americans, and maybe half a million others in his GWT. And he takes his instructions from Rove, a true American genius. Has any carnival or snake oil show has ever had such talent?

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Unfortunately - in every sense of the word - yesterday's bombings in India will undoubtedly skew your data upwards...

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Need you ask, Josh?

The real question should be: is Bush going to attack Iran in the next four months?

Y'all know my opinion on that one. The only reason he WON'T attack is if the Dems are so lame that they couldn't win the election even WITHOUT fraud vote...

But if the vote fraud is sufficient, maybe he won't attack Iran in the next four months. But he WILL attack Iran sometime in the next two and a half years. That much I'm pretty certain about.

Meanwhile, Josh, why don't you try to be the ONE DEMOCRAT who will respond to Josh Bolton's statement, "The Dems will lose over Iran."

So far, NO other Democrat has responded.

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Duh !!! ... ?? Or is this a trick question?

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Personally, as a New Yorker, and a relatively close follower of terrorism-related stories since the 93 WTC bombing (yes, including all things Tim McVeigh & Eric Rudolph) I get disturbed when this theme gets stoked too heavily without nuance by bloggers left of center, to the point where every defensive measure starts getting dissed by the "followers" as "the Bushies" trying to make political hay or impinge on our civil liberties.

All of a sudden everyone seems to completely forget about things like the 9/11 commission testimony by Richard Clarke that they once were fans of, and all terrorist alerts are a crock meant to frighten "the people." Forgetting that once "the Bushies" fought the idea of consolidating and improving "homeland defense," argued the neo-con position that police work was not the key to fighting terrorism, that taking it international and nation-state was the answer, and were only forced to do something by their political adversaries.

I don't buy that the majority cowers in fear thinking that terrorism is going to hit them directly. I think that rather, correctly, they see it as important because it threatens civilization and economies worldwide, and is meant to de-stabilize. Mho, that is the main reason that dissing every terror alert or news piece as a political move is hurtful to the idea of dems as strong on defense. (It was the same with the crime issue in the 80's--GOP wins by making a message about cracking down on crime, whether actually effective at it or not, dems lose by stressing the brutality of police and trying to understand the problems that make someone criminal.)

Certainly, I agree that we seem to have no better F.B.I. now than we did before 9/11. What I think would help, then, is if more bloggers stressed the actual facts of each case and the incompetence or competence therein, not always doing a knee-jerk reaction, dismissing as if it is a politically motivated alert; it may be, but it also may be an excellent example of how our defenses have not improved. This is one topic where "we can do better" is really a slogan that will work. (It's a twofer in that it intersects with protection of borders. For one example, look at the mass public reaction to the Dubai ports thing.)

To all of the knee-jerk dissers of practical terrorism defense measures, I have one thing to say about Mumbai: wonder how many care there today care about the supposed civil liberties issues of something like having their bags randomly checked before getting on public transport--bet they wish they had enough police to do it.

BTW, I have no issues with how you have covered this type of thing in the past, and have noted how you carefully don't jump to conclusions about each case. If you do end up doing a piece on it, I hope you continue with that kind of nuance.

P.S. One I always watch for commentary on this is Bill Clinton. He knows what it is to go through the warnings in the Pdb, still knows who many of the players are, knows the problems hindsight 20/20 of the quality of intel, and knows what it is like to have to try to actually do something about a threat even though opponents are crying that it's a politically-motivated distraction. If he's dissing the alert, then I'll go along with it being bogus bullshit. Right now, though, I just saw his wife on "NY1" (local news) with a sound bite about the Bush administration using Homeland Security as a pork program rather than a defense one. How much you want to bet that that's the poll-tested approach, that that's what concerns most Americans, not false alerts. When there's a false "Amber Alert" in California, do you see a lot of public outrage?

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Yes, Josh, I fear there will be crisis after crisis.

I've been wondering why the Republicans have been jumping on every hot button issue they can lately. Why are they trying to whip up their base into a frenzy now? Because they know those people will vote no matter what. Republicans are banking on low turn-outs. Between now and November, the rest of the general public will be steadily exhausted by each new crisis and the True Believers will be the majority showing up to cast ballots.

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You and I aren't affected. But look at the media and the right-wing apologists: the Republican base is being told now to get ready to show up in November.

Is It Orange Alert Time Yet?

Independent Illinois Grassroots: IllinoisDemNet.com

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This might provoke a great big, "Well, duh!" but do you think the reason Democrats who've been elected to something are such weak responders to Republicans is because so many of them have Presidential or Vice Presidential asperations for 2008? All things considered, this might be why Democrats aren't taking off here in 2006. The "leaders" are thinking too much about 2008.

That's why the Lieberman/Lamont fight is healthy for Democrats. The Party needs a good fight to release the tension and spark some emotional (instead of just intellectual) responses to issues.

It seems predictable. In fact, so predictable that it's simple, tired and unlikely.

I see a pattern in its earliest stage. It's all the latest "Bush the Multilateralist" news and the well-publicized meetings with foreign officials that aren't all about Iraq. I think the president will try to recast himself as someone leaders around the world look up to in matters of fighting terrorism. People have settled on how they feel about the president when it comes to his lack of diplomacy. This news will challenge their perception on the issue, which may cause them to ask, 'What else about the president am I wrong about?'

That seems like a much better strategy than rolling out the orange alerts and extra rolls of duct tape.

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Do you believe that terrorism can be completely eliminated through increased security measures?

The greatest danger of terrorism is that it evokes a visceral reaction in many people and utterly prevents them from rationally analyzing the threat level (which is of course why terrorism is effective). People need to realize that security and utility/convenience are at odds. As an example, reducing the speed limit on highways to 10mph would no doubt practically eliminate accidents, but it would also render cars useless. A compromise needs to be found, and if transport is to be useful, certain risks need to be accepted.

Terrorism is no different. Security can be jacked up and a cop could stand on every corner. The trouble is that the returns are diminishing so rapidly that it's not even funny. Naturally this is part of the terrorism calculus - the terrorists want to damage the target by raising its security costs (in terms of money, time, loss of liberty, etc.).

I strongly believe that just making terrorism the #1 topic of discussion means giving in to terrorists and playing on their terms.

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I think you illustrate why a politicized terror alert system is such an abuse of power. You rightly indicate that our major cities remain targets and that alerts need to be taken seriously. My sense is that there are threats against multiple targets within the United States everyday and that it is up to those in control of the system to exercise good and objective judgment as to when to trigger the system. The problem is that a Karl Rove alert system based on swings in the political campaign cycle (remember the alerts just after the Democratic convention in 2004?) makes everyone, not just left-wing bloggers, more cynical and less likely to do the things individuals and agencies are expected to do during times of actual peril.

When Josh writes his much-needed article, I assume it will not be to score political points about Republican shenanigans, but to call attention to an abuse of power that dampens our vigilance and makes the actual threats more dangerous.

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Well put (much better version of my comment :-))

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perspective refreshers:

1) U.N. Speech, September, 1998, not covered much as it was the height of his not answering questions on Monica.

2) Interview January 1999
(This may be a free link for non-subscribers, it may not, I can't tell because I am a subscriber)
an obvious attempt at distracting attention from impeachment (sarcasm intended):
Clinton Describes Terrorism Threat For 21st Century.
Excerpts:

....in an interview in the Oval Office late in the day, Mr. Clinton said he had been persuaded by intelligence reports that the United States needs to bolster its defenses.

''I want to raise public awareness of this,'' the President said in the 45-minute interview, ''without throwing people into an unnecessary panic.''

He said he wanted Americans ''not to be afraid or asleep. I think that's the trick.'....

He made the assertions as the White House disclosed that the Administration planned to ask Congress for $2.8 billion in the next budget year to fight terrorists armed with such unconventional weapons as deadly germs, chemicals and electronic devices. Mr. Clinton insisted during the interview that his drive to expand the budget for these programs was rooted in the growing danger of such threats.

Elaborating on some of the initiatives he intends to unveil on Friday, Mr. Clinton said he is weighing a proposal from the Defense Department to establish a commander in chief for the defense of the continental United States, a step that civil liberties groups strongly resist....

In the interview, Mr. Clinton said he hoped that a major legacy of his Presidency would be to stave off unconventional attacks. He said he would be delighted if, decades later, Americans looked back on any such threat as ''the dog that didn't bark.''....

With his Presidency under fire, it is unclear how much of the proposed $2.8 billion in military funds and programs Mr. Clinton will be able to get through the Republican-dominated Congress. But lawmakers have usually supported White House efforts to fight terrorism.

Mr. Clinton said that of all the new threats, the one that ''keeps me awake at night'' is the possibility of germ attack. ''A chemical attack would be horrible, but it would be finite,'' he said, adding that it would not spread. But a biological attack could spread, he added, ''kind of like the gift that keeps on giving.''

Mr. Clinton said he had begun worrying about biological terrorism and other unconventional threats six years ago, in February 1993, after Islamic radicals exploded a bomb under the World Trade Center in New York. The bombing one month after he came into office killed six people and injured more than a thousand.

He said his concerns about the danger of germ or chemical attack were deepened by the Oklahoma City bombing, terrorist attacks in the Middle East and Africa on American embassies and facilities, and reports that Iraq had retained chemical weapons it claimed to have destroyed. Mr. Clinton said he was also troubled by the activities of a Japanese cult, Aum Shinrikyo, which attacked the Tokyo subway system in 1995 with a nerve agent, killing 12 and injuring 5,000.

He said today that terrorists were probably a greater danger than rogue states, which would be afraid to openly attack American targets for fear of retaliation.

He noted that Osama bin Laden, a Saudi fugitive who is accused of masterminding the United States Embassy bombings in Africa in August, has ''made an effort to get chemical weapons'' and ''may have'' tried to get germ weapons. ''We don't know that they have them,'' Mr. Clinton said.....

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Sadly, I would not be surprised if an actual attack occurred just in time for the elections. *sigh*

The escalating alerts were done to death and were starting to work against them. If Bush is such a manly protector figure, why the escalating terror?

So now we have foiled plots. But I don't think these are working out too well. People seem to realize that the "plots' are largely pipe dreams (as opposed to pipe bombs . . .). To me, it reeks of desperation.

If the American people aren't buying the foiled plots and the terror alerts, then it's time for drastic action. The quickest way to shock us back into line is for an attack to occur.

God help us.

So, to answer your question . . . yes, I expect increased terror alerts and foiled plots as we approach the election.

"Us and Them
And after all we're only ordinary men
Me, and you
God only knows it's not what we would choose to do"
Us and Them
Pink Floyd
Dark Side of the Moon

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Don't know, not being a Democrat myself. I suppose it's possible. Seems to me that if most of the Dems have VP aspirations, there needs to be some weeding out - tell the ones who aren't serious to start paying attention to the present jobs.

All I know is that when nominees are made for President and Vice President, it usually turns out to be people I never heard of or at least never knew were being considered.

Certainly there seems to be more fighting over Hillary's chances for Prez in 2008 than anything going on in 2006, except, as you note, this nut Lieberman and his "independent party" nonsense.

Those lyrics are especially poignant on the day that the news of Syd Barrett's death became public.

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If the extremists have benefited from GOP leadership - wouldn't they want to keep the same in power?

A terror attack in the US would be the rallying cry to trot out the flag and support our leaders

So wouldn't it make sense the extremists would make more attempts to do an attack. Even if they are only creating an alert in the US they are still helping. Either way helping the current leadership helps their cause

"In uncertain times like this, we don't need people getting on the job training. We need experienced leadership - re-elect me".

Only in Spain where the ruling party were seen boldy lying on national t.v. did it hurt the "Daddy" party.

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Remember how Chancellor Sutler came to power...

"I want EVERYONE to remember why they NEED US!"

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Here's a fun article: "Spy Nation", which asks the question:
"Does the vast, immensely expensive, and largely unaccountable centralized intelligence system created by the Bush administration really make us safer?"

Money Quotes:

"Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, a radical Islamic cleric residing in Milan, was on his way to the mosque for noon prayers when he was seized by several men and stuffed into a van. From there he was taken to the U.S. Air Force Base in Aviano, and flown to Egypt, where he was imprisoned for more than a year and tortured at the hands of interrogators who have distinguished themselves - even in the Middle East - for their pitiless brutality. Eventually released to house arrest after the questioning yielded nothing of value, the imam was able to make a phone call describing his experience to his wife.

Nasr, who is also known as Abu Omar, is a veteran of mujahideen training camps in Bosnia. At the time of his abduction from Milan in February 2003, Nasr was under surveillance by Italian authorities, who were trying to learn of contacts between the radical imam - an Egyptian who had been given refugee status in Italy - and terrorist cells in Europe. Nasr's disappearance wrecked the Italian terrorist investigation.

There was little mystery about the identity of those who had seized Nasr. The abductors - a team of up to 22 CIA operatives - were about as stealthy as a homecoming parade. According to the Washington Post, the snatch squad conducted most of its communications via nonsecure cellphones, permitting the Italians to re-trace all of their movements.

They also left behind a thick paper trail of "hotel registries, car rental receipts, electronic highway toll passes and other documents" that were used to identify the Americans, at least one of whom was positively identified as a CIA officer. The operatives spent extravagant sums at some of Milan's most luxurious hotels, such as the Principe di Savoia, "where a single room costs $588 a night, a club sandwich goes for $28.75 and a Diet Coke adds another $9.35," noted the Chicago Tribune. "The CIA's bill at the Principe for seven operatives came to $39,995, not counting meals, parking and other hotel services. Another group of seven operatives spent $40,098 on room charges at the Westin Palace, a five-star hotel across the Piazza della Repupplica from the Principe.""

""Appointed to lead the agency in the midst of a heated presidential campaign, Goss's primary mission … was to yank Langley onto President Bush's political team," reported the November 10, 2005 American Prospect (citing dozens of sources from the CIA, State Department, and other agencies). Within a year he had presided over the resignation of as many as 90 senior officials, driven agency morale to unprecedented lows, and "decimated" the agency's Near East Division, which plays a critical role in collecting and analyzing intelligence from the Muslim world.

"[Goss's] immediate goal in 2004 was to block what had been, until then, a stream of damaging leaks of information about CIA intelligence reports that ran contrary to the White House's rosy optimism about Iraq and U.S. anti-terrorism efforts," reported American Prospect. "More broadly, the Goss team clamped down on dissenting views and radically politicized the CIA's leadership. Even worse, say former agency officials, Goss has acquiesced in the dismantling of the CIA itself, which has bowed too easily to the supremacy of the new director of national intelligence, John Negroponte, the former U.S. ambassador to Iraq, who spent his days in Baghdad contradicting the CIA's clear-eyed battle reports."

Specifically, while in Baghdad Negroponte consistently downplayed the potential threat to U.S. forces posed by the Iraqi insurgency, while the CIA consistently warned that the insurrection would grow stronger and more violent. A suitable illustration of the Bush administration's priorities is found in the fact that it demoted the CIA for providing reliable, albeit politically unpalatable, intelligence about Iraq, while elevating the unreliable Negroponte to be our nation's first "Intelligence Czar.""

"President Bush granted DNI Negroponte another extravagant grant of power through a May 5 executive order assigning to him "the function of the President under section 13 (b)(3)(A) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended." That seemingly innocuous decree, pointed out the May 23 issue of Business Week, permits Negroponte "to excuse publicly traded companies from their usual accounting and securities-disclosure obligations.""

Your tax dollars at work.

The CIA hotel bills remind me of the scene in the Bruce Willis movie, "Hudson Hawk", where James Coburn reminisces about the days of the Cold War, when as a CIA agent, "I got respect! And I got laid every night!"

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And conversely, if GOP leadership has benefited from terrorism, wouldn't they want to keep a few terrorists around?

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Josh, here's how it will work. It's a slight variation on time-tested fascist encroachment principles.

First, the government foments some racial incident the size of the Rodney King riots. This requires the placement of National Guard Units on the ground.

Agents provocateurs will be used to ruffle feathers in adjoining neighborhoods, likely gentrifying ones with artists living in the lofts usually available in places like that. LA is the likely test battleground, propensity to riot, lots of area commanders who have remained absolutely silent on the provisioning of arms to the opposition in the absence of any organized hierarchy ready to help move the untrained that resistance will call for. Look for it to start in LA, though. Almost a certainty. Good TV coverage, media in the pocket in many places. Good defenses for very well-equipped armories, easy lay of the urban land to assault and hold without making it look like much more than a few roadblocks. And remember that here news gathering is done from choppers. Sorry, no press choppers during TFR'd military action. That's standard since 9/11.

The National Guard is taunted, reviled by enraged locals. More are called for as tensions rise. And tensions rise as the races eventually recognize that they are not each other's enemy (something good to come out of this).

Sooner or later someone takes a shot. Which side, is immaterial.

The big development is that it gives the POTUS the much-neded excuse to bring the troops home. And when they come home they'll be in primo shape for kicking a few doors down here too and feeling a little more sure about themselves around American teenagers who look like the girls back in their malls in Nebraska and Missouri. Don't look for too many Californiz boys to be deployed back here.

This is an abbreviated sequence, from one that will be much more nuanced, but the skeleton of a few maneuvers I've seen before, though, admittedly in SE Asia. It was all the same, and at the end of the day there were guys with new uniforms on the TV reading curfew sheets. And people in large basements trying to find local armory commanders who might be sympathetic. That will probably be a little too late (hint to readers - -this is something that should be considered NOW).

And the artists who hang brightly painted banners, witty ones, even, will find out what a light tank round does to the interior of a loft building.

I'll try to add a little, but this is the general plan.

I guess what I'm saying is yeah, count on terror alerts. But just understanbd how much more they may portend.

Homless Bound

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We've got to expect the occasional terror alert as long as there are people in Lebanon willing to tunnel under the Mediterranean and the Atlantic to deliver their bombs to Manhattan.

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Unfortunately, it's quite likely that just as the jaded public wakes up to the naked opportunism of the pre-election "terrorism alerts"..... we have a real large-scale terrorist incident.

Bush and Al Qaeda need each other.

If it happens, will people hold Bush responsible for the failure of Homeland Security?

Probably not, they'll be too busy wetting their pants and crying for their mommy.

Things will get ugly. The RW noise machine will be turned to full volume, it'll be their last chance to avoid electoral oblivion, and these guys do not have limits.

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At some point, the value of continued terrorism threats will diminish for Bush and the Republicans. Their lack of competence and/or interest can only be compensated for to a limited extent by PR barrages.

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I saw some CNN yesterday, and was reminded just how good terror attacks are for ratings. Blitzer's take on the Mumbai bombing was what that meant for OUR safety. These thwarted "attacks" also make for good ratings. The media shares the administration's interest in pumping up fear.

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The Republican base is not, by itself, sufficient to win elections. Check out Bush's approval ratings.

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What do you think is coming down the pike in the next four months?

Another Bin Laden tape - video possibly.

And yes, more foiled plots. The arrests will all be accompanied by assertions that the intelligence that pierced the plot came from surveillance of financial transactions and overseas telephone calls and confessions by Gitmo detainees.

Can we get Altman or Coppola to film this? I'm semi-serious (though I'm open to suggestions about the directors and writers of the screenplay). Perhaps the best way to inoculate against this happening is to predict its happening in the popular culture. Mike

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Maybe, as a reality check, somebody can point us to a plot of alerts as function of time in the past. Wouldn't it be interesting to see where and how pronounced the spikes are. By updating the plot regularly we might be able see new spikes develop as November approaches.

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I think this is a given. The administration has to retain both houses of congress to avoid finding itself in some serious trouble. They'll do whatever is necessary to that end. They haven't let laws, ethics, patriotism or their conscience inhibit their conduct before now. They'll bet the house between now and November. Count on it.


thepeoplechoose

What interests me about this article (thanks for directing me to it) is where it was published. I can't say that I know a lot about The New American (nothing, to be honest), but I gather from the advertising and links on the page (John Birch Society, Youth Meets Truth), that this is not an organization of what could be called the left.

If this represents the level of disenchantment on the right with Bush and his cronies it has to be good news for the left, come the next election cycle.

Mike

Just make sure to move

aspirational to the top of your Words I've Come to Know and Roll My Eyes Over list.


Mike

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On the heels of the Miami "terrorists" I'm sure some Boy Scout troop somewhere will be busted as a militia group hell bent on overthrowing the US government. Or maybe they'll pay a foreign government/ally - how about Pakistan - to say they foiled a terrorist plot to blow up US interests abroad or foil assassinations. I mean those governments can just cover up the "evidence" from public view or round up some unfaithfuls to be the fall guys.

12/27/05 - AP via Newsday

"MILAN - The trick is known to just about every small-time crook in the cellular age: If you don't want police to know where you are, take the battery out of your cell phone when you're not using it.

Had that trick been taught at the CIA's rural Virginia training school for covert operatives, the Bush administration might have avoided much of the crisis in Europe over the practice the CIA calls "rendition."

When CIA operatives assembled here nearly three years ago to abduct an Egyptian-born Muslim preacher named Osama Moustafa Hassan Nasr, also known as Abu Omar, and "render" him to Cairo, they left their cell phone batteries in.

Even when not in use, a cell phone sends a periodic signal, enabling the worldwide cellular network to know where to look for it in case of an incoming call.

Those signals allowed Italian police investigating Abu Omar's disappearance to construct an almost minute-by-minute record of his abduction in February 2003, and to identify nearly two dozen people as his abductors.

CIA director Porter Goss, "horrified" at the sloppiness of the Milan rendition, has ordered a "top-down" review of the agency's "tradecraft," the nuts and bolts of the spy business.

Amateur time

So amateurish was the rendition that the Italian lawyer for Robert Seldon Lady, whom prosecutors identify as the former CIA chief in Milan, says Lady's primary defense will be that he was too good a spy to have been involved in anything so badly planned and carried out.

Lady, 51, who retired from the CIA two years ago, is believed to be living in Florida. If he or any of the 21 other CIA operatives charged in Abu Omar's abduction set foot in the European Union they are subject to arrest and extradition to Italy for trial.

Prosecutors say there is little doubt Lady was a key player in Abu Omar's kidnapping and his rendition to Egypt, where he claims to have been tortured.

Evidence seized by police last summer from Lady's Italian villa includes a surveillance photograph of Abu Omar walking from his apartment to a nearby mosque, at the precise spot where he was later seized and thrown into a van.

Although Abu Omar is not an Italian citizen, he obtained political asylum in 2001. In ordering further probes, Milan judge Chiara Nobili said it was necessary "to identify which agency is responsible for such a severe violation of international law as kidnapping a person legitimately living in Italy."

Should the CIA decide to teach its trainees how not to conduct a covert operation, it could find few better examples than the Milan rendition.

The list of mistakes made here begins with the operatives' indiscriminate use of their cell phones. One of the CIA's operatives made at least four calls to what appear to be friends and family in Texas, court records show. Another made a personal call to Greece. A man whose passport claims he was born in Tennessee made nine apparently personal calls, including one to a stockbroker in Kentucky.

Leaving tracks

Although the Milan operatives frequently changed hotels, the changes only made it easier for the police to identify them.

Officials involved with the case said police searched for the numbers of cell phones that had been close to the scene of the abduction at the moment it occurred. They found 19. Then they discovered that many of those phones had been in communication with one another, in most cases for short calls.

The phones turned up in Milan in the weeks before the abduction but stopped transmitting shortly after it was over, making it a good bet that they belonged to the kidnappers.

Police also noticed that each night, based on their positioning signals, the suspect phones had come to rest in particular Milan hotels. Dozens of Americans had been registered at those hotels, but after a few days or weeks at one hotel, many of the phones had moved to another hotel.

Checking registration records for guests who had changed hotels on the same days produced the names of Americans who had listed U.S. post office boxes as their addresses and nonexistent companies as their employers.

A few of the operatives actually put their cell phone numbers on their hotel registration cards. When one bought a cell phone in Milan, she registered it in what police believe is her real name. At least three other operatives used their own names when registering at hotels and renting cars, investigators say.

One operative made sure when checking into hotels to hand over her frequent flyer number, to get credit for her hotel stay."

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What will happen in the next 4 months?

Well who cares really?..Everything is about which twin will win, the dems or the repubs, nothing else matters. Even if we have more terror alerts they will try to outdo each other braying about how only they can best protect the Amurkin sheepel...er...people.

And we sheep will all be doing our part in saving the nation by visiting blogs and bravely defending the Red or the Blue on our keyboards here in the land of abundant speech and freedom from thought.

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I don't know if you've pulled it up in your research yet, but I want to add to Peter Nightingales' comment. There was such a chart done prior to the 2004 election and it showed just what you would expect from this crowd: political trouble for Bush strongly correlated with terrorism alerts. While I agree with artappraiser's comments (as someone who commutes into NYC 5 days a week and in light of Mumbai), that we can't ignore substance for the Bush spin, I think the latest news reports are the best sign that it is happening again. It's going to be a long summer. I also agree that Bin Laden will help out George right before the election with at least a video.

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Josh M. raises a very rational and relevant point. For the time being, i think the majority american people, albeit the majority in the polls clearly shows otherwise, haven't yet turned away enough from the grips of GOP propaganda. As a student of political science, i'm coming to understand how difficult it really is to make sense of the grand social-political picture in our country. for instance, i questioned the integrity of that whole 'chicago terrorist plot' deal down in miami. when i first heard about it of course i was moved as 'they' wanted me to be. needless to say, i was not at all surprised to read on TPM and in other small sources that in fact the story was most likely embellished and over blown if you will for the sake of gripping the people as i initially was before i was done watching Anderson Cooper.

Away from that tangent, the game of fear tactics and puffed up job integrity on the part of the GOP is to be expected. Keep digging out there, guys. we can be our own worst enemies if we believe everything that comes across the airwaves and out of the holes of the politicians. question everything. peace. Slainte.

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I expect a terrorist bombing to happen before the election. That's all they got left.

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It's certainly starting. I just learned today that around the time the men in Florida were arrested, the State Dept. was dealing with a "large-scale computer break-in." AP says that "investigators believe hackers stole sensitive U.S. information and passwords and implanted backdoors to allow them to return at will." Maybe it's a coincidience, or maybe the gov't needed to round up some bad guys when this happened, and the Florida conspirators looked good.

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You've ruled out the possibility that terrorists would make special attempts to influence or disrupt our elections.


Why? I think it's because you - and far too many of your readers - think the principle enemy is hear at home.

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Well, I'm ahead of you, b. I assumed that the Florida "terrorist" story was bullshit from the getgo.

Hopefully, the rest of America is coming around to the fact that this administration doesn't do or say anything that doesn't have the entrenchment of its associates in our political sphere and the enrichment of them in our economic one as its primary goal.

It would help if the media acknowledged the complete and utter mendacity of this administration rather than breathlessly reporting each new press release as if it were fact.

"the principle enemy is hear at home"

The principal enemy we face is Osama, most of us thought, and he's not "hear" of course, nor is he captured "dead or alive".

But since I can't mount my own capture operation I'll simply vote, again, against the idiots that let him get away.

Don't forget, too, that they don't have to "discover" a new plot. The big event for NYC before 2004, about threats to such sites as the Citicorp building, turned out to be reports from years before. But we bought it, and that building has had heightened security ever since.

From examples like that one, I'm not as afraid as ArtAppraiser that Democrats will sound too soft by stressing civil liberties. Back then, the concept never came up, and Kerry was even trying to run on port security, to shift the frame from who's more of a warmonger overseas to who's protecting America. But the usual mindless fearmongering won.

I'm sure the cycle with be similar: GOP shouting "be scared," and Democrats shouting "they're too incompetent to protect you, so all they can do is raise phony threats." So in a way, we're already caught up to ArtAppraiser's sensible suggestion. The crucial factor may then be whether the media are willing to air the Democrat response seriously, including the media's own hard-hitting reports on the reality of threats. Maybe they're getting more skeptical; we've seen signs of it. But we can expect a stronger GOP media blitz and more media fear of not being "balanced" during an election campaign.

John

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It seems to me that what we will see more of, especially after Labor Day, is "terrorist" bombings around the world - not in the U.S.  Bombings in countries that are allies of the United States are more likely to raise fears in the U.S....a kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop.

It seems to me that the Bush administration has underestimated the growth of "bin Ladenism" throughout the world due to a "western-style" short-sightedness.  What I mean is that bin Laden and his company are a patient lot, willing to keep after their goals for generations if need be and it will need to be. 

To the extent that the Bush administration talks about a "long war" they are right.  The problem is that they really do not know what they do not know.

So the next four months will just be more of the same campaign tactics that the Bush Rove Matalin team are known for. Embarrass the weak-kneed Democrats.

Josh:

Looks like the collective wisdom is "yes, we will see more foiled plots and more alerts." I agree.

I used to organize security for an urban college campus. Trust me when I say, good security is very, very boring. You tell your staff to do insanely dull things like read log books, walk around and be visible, check security doors, get to know the students by name. Sirens are exciting, but it's the beat cop that gets it done.

So Dems: embrace your inner Gore. Be the geek who cares about the mundane, terribly boring details of security. Care about locking cockpit doors. Care about scanning containers at ports. Care about tax increases that pay for border security. If dems do this, they will deserve the vote.

The message is this: "cat and mouse" makes a good summer blockbuster but a lousy security policy. How about you keep the mice out of your kitchen by keeping it clean and putting the food away instead of living like a drunken bachelor? A cat in your house means you've failed to put down an ounce of prevention and now must get your pound of cure.

It's poindexter, but true.

The dynamic relationship between Islamic terrorism and big capital is fascinating with many ties that go way back. Certainly one can gain some insight by studying the correlation of U.S. domestic politics and radical Islam media productions (amateurish as they may seem). The important thing to remember is that there are multiple axes around which this relationship has developed and it may not be easy to tease out a direct linear connection. That all being said, it is obvious that one should use recent past events to predict the near future. I agree with those that expect more alerts as well as more "attacks".

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"hear"


Are you implying I'm too dumb to spell correctly? What's the meaning of such quibling pedantry? Why don't you behave like an adult and simply ignore typos and minor errors in grammar and spelling as long as the meaning is clear?

I think we'll see an increase in the number of announcements of foiled plots; they allow DOJ or whomever to trot out real names and faces.  Heightened alert status is a bit more esoteric.  Like some others, I agree that you have to take even aspirational plots seriously.  Hopefully, enforcement authorities won't be pressured into prematurely catching some small fish to make political hay when a little more time could have netted a bigger fish, but that's probably too much to ask for.

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The principal enemy we face is Osama, most of us thought


Most of you can't think.


The enemy of the haves is the have-nots, always has been, always will be. Einstein and Freud talked about this in the '30s when the former was exploring pacifism while watching tensions grow.


Have-not is always relative...so the third world views us as haves but the poor at home do not feel they have much. There's always tension among the latter as to who their "real" enemy is.


Modern liberals, too often, have decided that our own haves are the "root cause" of all the world's troubles and the ultimate enemies of peace and justice.

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It seems to me, absolutely incredible that people would believe this operation's "clumsyness" was not intentional. Do you honestly believe that a CIA agent would not know to disable his cell phone between calls and not continually register at various hotels? Might it occur to you that they MAY be smart enough to leave footprints in the snow for a reason? If you want a good conspiricy, dig into that question a little.

dc

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A related question, inspired by Suskind:

Will Bin Laden intentionally make noise to spark terrorism alerts that will help Bush & Co. in the elections?

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All I know is that in the face of unimaginable terror, Winston Churchill summoned his people's courage, not their fears.

The anthem of the United States ends with: "Land of the free and the home of the brave."

We can't be the former without the latter.

I don't see the administration summoning our courage, I see him summoning our fears so as to scare us stupid. In doing this he is disempower us as he empowers himself.

If you believe that the point of terror is to disempower people by frightening them, then, though he's not the source of the terror or the fear, he is an amplifier of it, which makes him an accomplice to the terror for aiding and abetting it in acheive its intended affects and consequences.

Yes its a scary world out there, and there are people out there with grevances and axes to grind. We have to go out into that world and figure out who, what, where, why and how, and how to undo those factors that give rise to the problem.

This administration is anti-pragmatism, anti-rationalism, anti-impericism, - all the fruits of the enlightenment - and pro-authoritarianism is their response to all of these.

Thus you won't see pragmatism in fighting terror, you won't see rationalism in our policies, and you wont see policies base on any imperical evidence unless they are forced under circumstances. That's part of their secrecy meme. You will see plenty of authoritarianism in lue of rationalism, pragmatism and impericism.

They'll do whatever it takes to keep the authority, so they can continue their assault on the fruits of the enlightenment. One of those fruits is our constitution, and our way of life.

Fearmongering then is just one of the weapons in their arsenol. After all, most of them are republicans now because they are afraid of something. They just want you to get on board with the program.

The great issues of our day are not security versus civil rights or conservativism versus liberalism. The great issues of our day are: rationalism versus irrationalism, impericism versus ignorance, ideologicalism versus pragmatism/common sense, authoritarianism versus constitutional rule of law and facing our problems with informed courage versus ingnorance and fear.

Until we see Republicans adhereing to rational, informed, and pragmatic policies, and respect for law, and until we see them summoning our courage instead of our fears, I think its safe to assume that they are using terrorism for political purposes.

He that hath a trade, hath an estate - from Poor Richards Almanac - Benjamin Franklin

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It would be interesting to plot this as some sort of event study. In August 2004 someone posted something like this at:
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aproval_vs_alert_chart_NEW.gif

I think that it was discussed at:
http://juliusblog.blogspot.com/
http://juliusblog.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_juliusblog_archive.html

Tetsuo

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Well Josh, if I let my imagination run wild I predict that we will see 'foiled'terror threats with such increased frequency that the public demands greater national security.

This will have the impact of the decider, declaring a state of national emergency which necessitates him remaining in office as to change administrations will be too much of risk to the national security. Due to the threat of leaks, and unstable world security there will not be any elections as changes in the Congress and the Senate would be destabilizing due to more opportunities for leaks.

We will be stuck with this man and Gonzales will declare he has the power to remain in office and Justices Roberts and Alito will support this on the basis of the war time powers act, with Senator Lindsay Graham citing all the relevant maritime law.

Just as the Supreme Court put this man in office they are going to legally justify him not leaving office.

Every single day, I hear the news nows, I feel like I am living in Germany  during the Rise of the Reich,  fear is mind-numbing and the citizenry sleeps as our liberties are usurped in the name of security.

 

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I would never have expected, even the Bush administration to be so political about our security, but I find it shocking that the increased terror alerts pretty much stopped after 11/04...

But the question should not be "if" it's going to happen, but how to deal with them. An opposition should be able to make people feel safer than the current congresidency (I'm looking for a word that implies no separation between congress and the administration). Dems should have a set of strong policies so that they could just say: "See, we'd keep you safer. Together we can do it better. Blah." Preemptively striking their strong points means we don't have to worry about what they will try to do.

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Haven't they already started doing this? There were just two overhyped 'busts' -- the one in Miami and the alleged NY subway "plot".

Because of your insulting comment that we felt the main enemy was at home. This despite the fact that Clarke, et al, were on the Al Qaeda case from before, that liberals were warning about the Taliban before, (while oil companies negotiated with them) and that is AQ that whacked us, not you-know-who.

As I said, I voted against this administration and feel results justify my decision.

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Following up, there are some good links in this post.

http://www.attytood.com/archives/002399.html

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They have already started this again.

The two arrests, which upon further review are not as serious as they were played out to be. The Florida group is a bunch of crazies, and the subway group had never met, and they knew about them for a year.

There was nothing after the 2004 election until this. And now we'll see more of these tips or alerts based on old information, arrests of groups that probably aren't real terrorists, etc.

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Josh,

Maybe you can get a graph together that show the terror alerts and "terrorist-busted-moments" from 2004 to now. The visual nature of a graph would help bring home the point so much more than words alone. I'd be happy to help you with that if you'd like.

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Except the Reich had full employment, even a labor shortage, all we have is 'statistical full employment' which is to say a slowburn depression.

The Reich was more animated even if it was more leathal. I mean all those uniforms, marching, tourch parades, nuremberg rallies. I hesitate to say that the Reich was more lethal. We are only in year 6 of the 4th Reich. At this point in the 3rd Reich, the summer of 1939 - things were just heating up but had yet to boil over. Hitler had murdered members of the S.A. and rounded up Jews but his death toll, at that point, was probably below the 100,000 that Bush is currently responsible for in Iraq.

They say it is wrong to pull out the Nazi card, and he that does first, loses an arguement. But they also say that he that doesn't study history is condemned to repeat it.

From the very inseption of Bush I find disturbing parallels: A loathing of intellectualism, A loathing of international organizations, preemptive war doctrine, the use of the persecuted majority and stab in the back as campaign tactics, just to name a few that were evident in 2000. Oh and there is this little tid bit: Both came to power during a constitutional crisis, appointed by a cadre of a few old men behind closed doors trying to solve the crisis without surrendering their political pretenses.

In my mind, the Germans have some cover - in the 12 preceeding years before Hitler came to power they had experienced the loss of a major war, saddled with guilt, two major economic depressions, one inflationary, the other deflationary after all that, a constitutional melt down is hardly exceptional. And after all that, Hitler almost didn't make it to the chancellorship.

We on the other hand put Bush in office at the height of our power, prestige and prosperity. The 12 years before Bush came to power saw the U.S. win a multigenerational global cold war AND in the preceding 8 years the largest peace time economic expansion in our history. History won't be kind to us for having handed the reigns over to Bush after that.

He that hath a trade, hath an estate - from Poor Richards Almanac - Benjamin Franklin

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I don't think there's any question about whether or not they will increase the number of "terror alerts". It is an integral part of their strategy. One thing about this crowd of power hungry swine is that they are quite predictable and reliable in that sense. Now, since everyone with half a brain knows exactly how they will proceed, it will be interesting to see if the elected DC Democrats and their bootlicking consultants will finally figure out that they perhaps, kinda/sorta oughta fight em this time around instead of cowering in the corners as they are so wont to do. I'm not optimistic.

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Isn't it clear?

Osama bin Laden will be coming out with a video in early August, supporting Ned Lamont in the CT primary. 

 

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Isn't spelling a requirement for getting into the 101st Fighting Keyboardists?

Perhaps, it's recruitment problems.

Soon they'll be letting in felons and neo-nazis, I suppose... 

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Josh,

I wrote about this very thing on Sunday: http://texpatnation.blogspot.com/2006/07/silly-season.html.

I hate to be so cynical about our government, but I truly believe that they are manipulating the terror alert system and wreaking all kinds of havoc in the process; not the least of which is public confidence in governemnt.

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Modern liberals, too often, have decided that our own haves are the "root cause" of all the world's troubles and the ultimate enemies of peace and justice.

Exactly. Which is why we often give therapy to terrorists.

I was involved in a liberal group project a while back. We tried hypnosis for Osama bin Laden's smoking habit. You'd never think he was a smoker. I mean, he sounds so clear on all his videos! But he really is. Go figure.

Anyway, the hypnosis lasted a week or two, but he went right back to the Camels.

It really is such a tough habit to break.

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Expect 4 or 5 more 'almost terrorists' to surface, possibly 1 raised alert but not in the usual place(s). It'll be Nashville or Green Bay or something like that.

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And how about Secretary Ridge announcing a terrorist alert write after the Democratic convention in order to kill the momentum and news buzz from it. That right after saying that the terror alerts were in no way related to politics. The last terrorist alert was in 10/04. After that we had 10 months of tranquility, until Katrina showed we were not prepared for anything.

The real terror, for Republicans, is the thought that they might lose power, and might have to be held accountable for their actions.

He that hath a trade, hath an estate - from Poor Richards Almanac - Benjamin Franklin

Josh,

Absolutely, with Faux News and the rest of the noise machine stoking fear every step of the way.

I just don't know how we combat this.

Bushco delenda est

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Of course I expect a spike in "terror alerts" and foiled "plots," for which no supporting evidence will be provided.

Just do a search on "Tom Ridge" and terror alerts.

Ridge came out and said terror alert levels were raised in the run-up to the 2004 election -- for political purposes. If memory serves, he said they were told to raise the levels, when there wasn't any evidence or basis to do so.

2.3 seconds later ...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-05-10-ridge-alerts_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

"More often than not we were the least inclined to raise it," Ridge told reporters. "Sometimes we disagreed with the intelligence assessment. Sometimes we thought even if the intelligence was good, you don't necessarily put the country on (alert). ... There were times when some people were really aggressive about raising it, and we said, 'For that?' "

Chart graphing Bush's poll numbers against timing of terror alerts:
http://img57.exs.cx/img57/7638/aproval_vs_alert_chart.gif

For more, this blog entry lists events happening in & around the terror alerts. Scroll down ONE entry to the Tuesday, August 03, 2004 entry at:

http://juliusblog.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_juliusblog_archive.html#109174332697993966

This poster might want to use a less ambitious vocabulary so we won't resort to "quibling pedantry."

Yes.

Of course they'll be reaching into their collection of Bin Laden tapes that they've either been holding on to for a while or doctoring for a specific occasion, and will be strategically releasing a "new" tape, when their need for escalation calls for.

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That Ridge quote is key. Maybe it was guilty conscience? I don't know, but we have the head of DHS essentially stating the terror alerts were political.

I hope that makes it into Josh's piece... 

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I posted this on DailyKos last week. I think the terror alerts will come fast and furious as the election heats up. I also think we should make a game of it.

New Game: Terror Alert Bingo
by weasel
Fri Jul 07, 2006 at 05:35:30 PM PDT

I meant to post this after the recent "Miami Terror Bust," where a weird little non-violent, non-Muslim Miami cult was suddenly accused of planning to bomb Chicago. This bust occurred, oddly enough, the same day that the New York Times disclosed the existence of the Administration's program to sneak peeks at banking records.

We saw another example yesterday. Coincidentally, on 7/7, the anniversary of the London bombing, the FBI announces a bust of a group in Lebanon that had never left that country and never set up plans or acquired materials, but was planning to bomb train tunnels in New York.

Will we see more of these? Certainly. Two facts prove this. First, the administration is in trouble, with the poll numbers staying low for months. Second, they used one of their supply today, just to commemorate 7/7. The fact that they used one "offensively," as it were, rather than saving them for defense, shows they have plenty more in reserve.

In that spirit, I announce:

TERROR ALERT BINGO

Rules:
1) Create your card. Cards are 5x5 and each square is filled with a date between now and the election (11/7/06). No duplicate dates are allowed.
2) Post your card for all to see. You must post it before the first day you use on your card.
3) Mark off a square when the Administration first announces an implausible terror alert (even if the sting or bust happened months earlier).
4) The first one to complete a 5-box row (horizontal, vertical, or diagonal) wins.


Sample Card:

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