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Everyone once in a while I'm reminded that all these European countries have actual kings and queens, which strikes me as very odd. I suppose it's not the biggest deal in the world, but apparently last year the British government spent "£37.4 million ($68.2 million), a 4.2 percent increase from the previous year" on the Queen of England and related programs. Why would you do that?


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Why anyone would do that is a fair question, but it's really not so different than what I'm sure the US does. I mean, the Queen does a whole bunch of purely ceremonial crap. But so does the President (and Vice President, and First Lady, etc.) What do you think the overhead for all that purely ceremonial crap is? Keeping the WH gardens looking purdy, security detail for Bush when he gives commencement addresses and Cheney when he throws first pitches, etc. It all adds up. But all that crap is just what Queen does, leaving the PM time to, you know, govern.

The Queen is the head of state of the United Kingdom government (as well as several others), so she does have some official duties which in more civilized countries are granted to elected leaders.

They make it back on tourism.

I like the English monarchy on utilitarian political grounds. IIRC, she has to sign off on every piece of legislation, and does so by rote, which is an aid to her role. That role being the symbolic, spiritual, religious head of state. But I think she is an impediment to extremism. Theoretically, SCOTUS performs part of that role, but SCOTUS has become politicized.

If the US had someone both parties respected, admired, and loved, mostly because she rarely if ever took partisan positions...if that person were to come out and say "This country does not do torture and suspend habeus corpus" it might have some weight. Might not, but worth $100 million to keep a nation from goin over the edge.

Royalty are also museum equivalents, and provide continuity and national identity. Those might be bad things, but many people seem to enjoy them.

The nation-state doesn't exactly seem to be fading away, and more emotional peoples seem to have a very strong need for symbols of the Greater Good(tm) that is embodied in the Nation. One very strong symbol is the charsmatic leader, but that road can turn very wrong. Perhaps better to have an attractive office that absorbs the desire for symbolic leader and separate out the function of government.

Also, although the Queen has not exercised any of her higher powers of office (some of which I read about during the Australian Empire vote and which are quite amusing), she could. And as long as she and her successors have any fundamental regard for their country (which I think even Charles does), it might also be better to have that unlikely-but-possible threat hanging over the civilian government.

sPh

I agree with rd on the tourism advantage. I'm no fan of the English monarchy personally, but I'd say that the free advertising alone is easily worth 68 million a year.

I'm no monarchist, but I think the expense ground is one of the weaker objections to monarchy. How much of this money is really money that wouldn't be spent if Great Britain turned into a republic? Not only would the new head of state have to perform costly ceremonial functions still, but presumably properties like Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle would remain national property, and, as historic sites, could not just be sold off to the highest private bidder, so their upkeep would also remain part of the national tab. How much money goes to the Queen's private use?

Why wouldn't you do that?

Every country needs someone to represent the nation as head of state, welcome foreign politicans, open bridges etc.

Anyway a lot of the 37 million quid actually goes to pay for the upkeep of various royal buildings which , as historic buldings,would still be paid for by the state even if the UK became a republic.

And in comparison to, say japan whose royal family costs them 75 million a quid a year, i'd say we're getting a bargain.

At least they haven't altered their fundamental laws to make references to the queen outside those trappings of tradition or tourism a damnable crime.

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It's an interesting thing - because the royals (in European monarchies) have no real power and plenty of money, they are more or less incorruptible. That can be very useful.

Aside from the ceremonial aspects which have been mentioned, having a monarch can do good things for the political discourse.  It's much easier to make the distinction between attacking/criticizing one's country and attacking one's country's political leaders when there is someone who embodies the "country" without the "politics."  That's part of what the Queen does, simply by existing.

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Tradition.

I don't understand the attractions of monarchy myself, but English friends and acquaintances say: "Because with all our faults, we love our Queen."

I have heard the argument that the Monarchy in Britain prevents extremism, but I've never really found it to be terribly convincing. While it is true that the institutional weakness of the British Monarchy is seen as an asset by many observers, this very weakness can present some real problems. The passage of time has rendered the Monarchy little more than an empty crown and a vacant scepter, while the House of Lords has also been effectively gelded by recent "reforms". Of course neither the Monarch nor the Lords have the democratic legitimacy required in this day and age to act as some kind of institutional check, so what you basically have is a unicameral legislature supporting an elective dictatorship, since the prime minister now exercises the prerogative powers exercised by the monarchs of old. This is exacerbated by the fact that there is no written constitution, as the British Constitution is pretty much whatever the Commons says it is. Men of the Enlightenment like Voltaire and Montesquieu praised the English system for guaranteeing liberty precisely because it was balanced. What exists now is far from balanced, which is one reason why Tony Blair can play fast and loose with civil liberties as a long as he has a majority in the Commons behind him. If a prime minister with a parliamentary majority behind him wanted to pursue a much more extreme agenda, what could a monarch do without causing a constitutional crisis? The monarch still has the veto, but it hasn't been used since the time of Queen Anne. Any attempt to revive its actual use would surely precipitate a constitutional crisis. And how healthy is a state's constitutional order when the very use of constitutional powers would cause a crisis?

It's just more dramatic to behead a King or Queen than an elected official. They've just been keeping that option in reserve for the last 357 years.

Just think how Henry VIII would have handled the Lady Di problem. And she had that long, lovely neck too.

The queen spends a lot of that money on what might be called public beautification that arguably makes England a more pleasant place.


Reminds me of the scene in "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" where the British agent asks Alan Quartermain (Sean Connery) where is his "patriotism". Quartermain leaps up, raises his class to the African club and shouts, "God save the Queen!" Everybody raises their glass and repeats the slogan.

Then he says, "That's about as patriotic as it gets around here."


I'm reminded of the Taoist concept of the perfect ruler: he sits, facing in a propitious direction, and does absolutely nothing.

Outside of that, what part of "primate" don't you understand, Matt?

Personally, I prefer William Burroughs youth gang characters who march into a conservative British club, line everybody up, shoot every tenth one, then demand the rest recite the phrase, "Bugger the Queen!"

The money issue seems highly dubious to me as well. One point on this is that while the government spends a fair amount of money on the Privy Purse for the monarch and royal family, the government also *gets* a lot of money through its use of the revenues of the Crown Estates, which they are only allowed to do due to a voluntary agreement with the monarch - one that has to be renewed by each new monarch (Charles, iirc, has made noises that he might not renew the deal when he becomes King).

Beyond this is the question of how much money a President would cost. Presumably, if Britain became a republic, it would remain a parliamentary republic, with a president as mostly ceremonial head of state. This would also cost money. Presumably he'd be put up at a palace of some sort (perhaps Buckingham Palace, or maybe Kensington Palace or something if Buckingham is too closely associated with the monarchy), in the way that the President of France lives in the Elysée and the President of Italy (completely ceremonial) in the old royal palace, the Quirinal. And, as pointed out above, the monarchy spends a lot of money on things that the government would otherwise have to do.

In terms of why particular countries have monarchies, I think if you look at the countries that still have monarchies, ignoring the microstates, you have the UK, Spain, Benelux, and Scandinavi. What you'll notice about all these countries, except for Spain, is that they've been stable. There've been no revolutions, and the countries have been constitutional monarchies for a long long time. Monarchies don't tend to be eliminated in peaceful referenda in situations like this. In fact, I can't think of any examples of a monarchy having been gotten rid of in a situation like this. There were relatively fair referenda that abolished the monarchies in Italy and Greece, but in both cases this was after the monarchy had completely discredited itself by getting in bed with dictatorships (also, note, the Greek monarchy was actually eliminated by said dictatorship before restoration of democracy. Short of Queen Margrethe allying herself to a fascist who marches on Copenhagen wit his blackshirts, or King Albert swearing in a junta of junior military officers who overthrew the democratically elected government, I don't see why we should expect that Europe's remaining monarchies will go anywhere.

Spain is a special case, with the restoration of the monarchy in 75 being due to Franco, and its survival due to Juan Carlos's own personality and actions, I think.

Don't forget the non-European monarchies, some of whom have real power still, especially in the Middle East.

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