Parricide at the CIA?
Sidney Blumenthal has a fine piece in Salon today that demonstrates that Bush and Cheney have essentially, and quite deliberately, destroyed the CIA.
Others have hinted at this, but the Goss debacle and the Hayden nomination add much to the story, and Blumenthal knits it all together well. But what he doesn’t touch on, and I’ve never seen mentioned in any previous discussion of Bush and the CIA is the element of parricide involved.
We all take it for granted that Bush’s feelings about his father had something to do with the compulsion to invade Iraq. It could have been the genuine loyalty of a loving son -- Bush supposedly said of Saddam, "he tried to kill my father," sufficient proof that Saddam was evil. Or it could be a lot more complicated, such as a desire to prove to his withholding father, after decades as the inadequate older son, that he could accomplish something, something that had eluded the father himself. Or perhaps to stick it to the father for his perceived loss of nerve in not finishing the job. It’s all fodder for the psychobiographer in every one of us.
But why wouldn’t a similar analysis apply equally, or moreso, to the CIA? The elder Bush was director of the CIA when W was in his late twenties, roughly the period when he had the legendary confrontation with his father over his drinking and general loser-ness, and challenged the father to fight him, "mano a mano." The CIA building is named after his father. And I believe there is some reason to think that the elder Bush’s connection to the Agency predates his appointment as director (without buying the LaRouchite theory that places Bush 41 on the grassy knoll in Dallas). The CIA is a presence in the Bush family life in much the way that Yale is, another institution toward which Bush 43 holds a weird hostility -- and, of course, those two institutions are themselves linked.
I don’t have a very specific theory here, but it seems natural to wonder whether this almost inexplicable hostility to the CIA as an institution has some deeper roots in Bush’s complex relationship to his father.












Comments (36)
I guess this comes down to how much Bush actually cares or understands about governing. To say there is some father issue motivating this suggests Bush came up with the idea. Just as likely, he might have been on the treadmill every day when all this was going on. Karl says, "We need to make the CIA loyal." To him, this might be the same as his father whipping it into shape. Who knows?
It appears to have more to do with insisting on total loyalty to Bush. That can explain everything. Nothing matters except that you obey.
May 11, 2006 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's "patricide", no? Sorry to be nit-picking :-)
May 11, 2006 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nothing wrong with nit-picking, just usually best to check first. The legal term for the act of killing a parent, or a person who has committed that crime, is parricide. Patricide is a nearly synonomous term; I could have used either one but chose the legal term. (And one perhaps more appropriate for someone who is also a parasite.)
May 11, 2006 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
An interesting quick read:
Remarks By George Bush
41st President of the United States,
At the Dedication Ceremony for the George Bush Center for Intelligence
26 April 1999
excerpt:
May 11, 2006 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who cares what the psychopathologies are of this, the worst President in US history?
Get him the hell out of the White House and into either a strait jacket or a Federal prison! (Or both - in Federal prison they'll do that to you, too.)
Just do it before he launches the Iran war or it's all over for the US.
May 11, 2006 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
The drug war is completely off the public radar. Even as Afghanistan grows more and more, drug wars are even less important!!
May 11, 2006 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fine, but since GHW Bush is GW Bush's father, not mother or other close relative, isn't "patricide" still more suitable, since it has narrower meaning? I am not a lawyer so I can't comment on Legalese, but I know what a dictionary of the English language says.
Regardless of whether it's parricide or patricide (as far as I can tell, it's both), you're making a valid point.
May 11, 2006 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. I wrote about this a few days ago at my blog. I think there's something to it. But most of all, CI knows the full extent of Bush and Cheney's lies. They had to put up with the pressure. (And they are known to not play nicely with other children on all occasions. See "Running with Scissors through Central America.")
May 11, 2006 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
My opinion remains the same: when dealing with the Bush administration it is all about making money for Bush's friends. The CIA, as an expert, non-political, professional intelligence agency, stood in the way of the administration in its drive to benefit their friends' money acquisition. You just can't start wars on a whim if the CIA is going to keep telling people your excuses don't hold water. They learned this when preparing to start a war in Iraq. So, the CIA as an effective intelligence agency had to be "reformed" into the CIA as a source of justifications for whatever military adventures the administration wanted to start. And, they certainly want to start a lot of them - so far, billions of dollars are being made as a result.
I keep wondering how the genie gets back into the bottle when we finally, God willing, get a Democratic President.
Hoppy in Sacramento
May 11, 2006 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not so fast. Try this link:
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/dictionaries/difficultwords/data/d0009660.html where 'parricide' is defined as "parricide:
n. killer or killing of parent, close relative, or king, etc. parricidal, a."
The same site defines 'patricide' as "patricide:
n. killing or killer of own father; traitor or act of treason. patricidal, a"
I would have to do some etymological research but a snap judgement would have me believe that 'parricide' derives from 'parentes' i.e. parents, or more generally ancestors while 'patricide' derives more directly from 'pater' i.e. father.
May 11, 2006 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like Jesus, George’s true Father is God, and in serving the Lord’s will by vaporizing countless evil doer Islamofascists, George will ascend into heaven and displace Jesus and sit at the right hand of God. It is right and just.
May 11, 2006 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does he get 72 virgins? I just can't accept that if he does. Maybe one virgin, but any more isn't right. Sorry, it's just the way I feel.
Hoppy in Sacramento
May 11, 2006 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
First, we need to cut the defense budget in half. Then we need to fire the NDI and erect some statutory barriers between a new NDI and the executive branch. How do they defend nonpartisanship over at the CBO e.g.? We need something like that for the intelligence services.
"When God ariseth, and when he visiteth, what shall we answer!" - Rev. Benjamin Hancock
May 11, 2006 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, he'll get 72 Republican hookers...
And hopefully get diseased by every one of them...
This will prove God has a sense of humor.
May 11, 2006 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't have my copy of Bryan Garner's Modern American Usage at hand when I wrote the post, but I do now, and he says, "Parricide/Patricide: Parricide is the more usual word meaning (1) "the murder of one's own father" or (2) "one who murders his father." Garner too leans toward the legal definitions.
I think there's a commentor here occasionally who goes by "Lexicographer." Perhaps we should give that person the last word on this.
May 11, 2006 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Part of one comment above refers to the idea that if Bush launches the Iran war, it's all over for the US. We should focus on this. How can we assure that he cannot do this? I fear it will be our October 06 surprise.
Then any significance of who wins in the Nov 06 and 08 elections will be
tragically too late.
May 12, 2006 4:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, the ships are said to be on their way toward Iran now, according to Raw Story.
http://tinyurl.com/qb4c5
May 12, 2006 4:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know about the psychological motive to destroying the U.S., but there's definitely a pattern of marginalizing the CIA when it reports intelligence that an administration doesn't like. During the 80s when story after story reported that the USSR was in economic and social decline, these same people (Rumsfeld, Cheney, Woolsey, Podheritz) were claiming that the USSR was a military threat unsurpassed by any other - they were the evil empire. Later, when the USSR did fall apart, these same people were complaining that the CIA had no idea that was happening and failed to inform the Reagan administration.
It's very convenient to blame the CIA, because by its nature and regulations, it can't publicly fight back or set the record straight. The fact that there is so much leaking now, by the CIA, is a sign of how disruptive and damaging this kind of blame is.
May 12, 2006 7:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Clark Kent Ervin, the former Inspector General at DHS and a whistleblower, said this in an interview the other day:
May 12, 2006 7:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've given up on psychoanalysis of public figures from 1000 miles away. However, actions, especially of pathological liars like Bush and Rummy, speak oh so much louder than words.
I have to say I find it hyper-ironic that "left" or even liberal commenters weep and wail with lament on the decimation of the CIA - this agency toppled democratic governments around the world for 50 years.
What would Iran look like today if the CIA didn't topple Mosadeh (sp) in '53? She might be our closest ally! The CIA is basically just an arm of Presidential power - a particularly filthy one at that, because Presidents get to play dumb about it or say that interfering abroad without Congressional authorization is "classified."
Harry Truman truly cursed the U.S. by creating the "National Security State" with the Joint Chiefs, NSA and CIA. When all you have is the metaphorical hammer of Generals and spies, every thing in the world turns into a proverbial nail that must be pounded in by either spying or war. Spying and war have become the centerpiece of the US's identity to the world and even to itself. Anyone right of Noam Chomsky would call me "naive" at best and "idiotic" at worst for asserting that the CIA, Joint Cheifs and NSA are the greatest threat to the lives and liberty of not just US citizens but the entire globe's population.
Here's something else that's even more "naive": The idea that destabilizing democracies and waging war after war after war after war of choice won't "blowback" (the CIA's term for Karma) on to the US.
May 12, 2006 7:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, yes -- that marvelously competent intelligence Agency which failed to predict (suggest the possibility of?) a collapse of the Soviet Union, because for decades it had used a faulty -- stupid-beyond-belief(?) -- model of the Soviet economy?
May 12, 2006 8:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
In the good old days when Yale and CIA were joined at the hip, proper CIA staffers had names like "Sebastian Wofflespoon III". Now they hire somebody out of The Sopranos credits actually called "Dusty Foggo". No wonder you get a lower class of cock-up.
May 12, 2006 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not true. The CIA DID inform the then administration that the Soviet Union was in a state of collapse, and the administration told the CIA to keep quiet about it.
May 12, 2006 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bush 41: Plenty of enemies abound. ... Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, terrorism, narco-trafficking, people killing each other....
The Bush Wit is the gift which keeps on giving. That peculiar witless wit.
It's ultimately humiliating for the country to be saddled with this low rent psychodrama - a far more directly humiliating thing than people around the world wondering about Clinton's cock. This is flailing pathos which affects millions of destinies. The psycho stuff is a sideshow, but don't imagine for a second that this pathetic character - as such - isn't at the front of minds all around the world. It's a Very Special Dr Phil for a worldwide audience.
This is no criticism of Mark for pointing this out (on the contrary). This isn't overwrought at all. It's there. Bush's dad's name is on the very building, for pity's sake.
Interesting to compare Bush and George Allen in this context. Allen seems to be the same kind of resentful, bullying, con artist as W, but with less sublimation of these qualities (I think Allen is quite a bit less intelligent). I can see why nominating Allen in '08 makes a kind of progressive (small 'p') sense - it's a whittling away of pretense.
Great stuff Mark. I've never seen this mentioned either.
May 12, 2006 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Never heard that. Wouldn't happen to have a link, would you?
May 12, 2006 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know how old you are, but I remember that time very well. I distinctly remember Norm Podheritz (sp?) writing an article for a major newspaper in which he criticized the CIA for there view that the USSR was on the ropes. That was in fact, one reason why Reagan was so adamant that it was an "evil empire". All other reports were to the contrary. I also remember a report on PBS which had information sourced to a CIA leak, that the "feared" Russian pilots were draining their planes of anti-freeze in order to make liquor. When the USSR did fall, the Reaganites claimed that the CIA had either not informed them or missed the signs entirely - how can the CIA prove that they did inform him? It can't, other than by leaking to the press.
May 12, 2006 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mark,
I think that you have it exactly backwards. By attacking the CIA, Dubya is not attacking his father; he is completing the work that his father began.
The tenure of Gearge H.W. Bush at the CIA is most notable for the "Team B" fiasco. Throughout the cold war, conservatives had been complaining that the CIA was underestimating Soviet military spending. Bush created an independent committee to study this issue known as Team B. Its members included such luminaries as Wolfowitz, Libby, Richard Pipes and William Casey. (By the way, Team A was composed of CIA officials.) Surprise, surprise, Team B concluded that yes the CIA was underestimating the Soviet effort.
Of course, thanks to glasnost and then to the collapse of the USSR, the archives became available and we now know that the CIA had been overestimating Soviet military spending. Team B's estimate, to crib a phrase from Brad DeLong, was from somewhere in the Gamma quadrant.
Of course, these people learned nothing from this episode.
May 12, 2006 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
His term at CIA (and as VP during Contragate) is almost as well noted for massive drug smuggling by the CIA.
Which, according to some accounts, has now resumed on the watch of Bush Junior under the control of a Porter Goss relative in Geneva, Switzerland. (At least, the guy's last name is Goss - coincedence? I think not.)
May 12, 2006 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll admit to not often reading Norman Podhoretz, but in the absence of a cite or a link, I've got to assume you're confusing his support for the Ford Administration's Team B attack on the CIA's early 1970s estimates of Soviet military expenditures and not the CIA's 1980s estimates of the state of the Soviet economy.
May 12, 2006 9:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Assume whatever you want. I remember quite a few stories in the 80s about the conflict between the Reagan admin and the CIA. I mentioned Podhoretz as one example. I can't say I care all that much.
May 13, 2006 8:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bev isn't confused, Ellen. I've been around for 73 years and have a good memory. Besides, a few years ago there was a long article in THE NATION which went into great detail about the whole shoddy affair.
May 13, 2006 12:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't say I care all that much.
That's a shame. We spend forty plus billion dollars a year on the CIA. I'd have thought you'd want to get something useful for that kind of money.
May 13, 2006 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
How do you know we aren't getting anything useful? In fact, that was my very point - we don't know. It seems more than obvious that the CIA was giving this admin. the right information - they simply didn't want to hear it.
May 14, 2006 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
The "right information"? I think you'd better reread the NIE.
Somehow, your $40 billion faith-based justification doesn't impress me.
May 14, 2006 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I did not in any way justify or rationalize the expenditures of this government for intelligence. What I am pointing out to, if you can be open minded enough to accept it, is that we don't know if they're right or wrong, because it's secret. That would seem obvious to me.
I did read the NIE, and what I read was qualitative language - they might, they could, but never once did I see "they will".
May 15, 2006 7:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
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March 5, 2007 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink