Sticking up for Robespierre
Well, only sort of. But via Phoebe Maltz, I see a John Kekes article in City Journal that starts with the fairly banal observation that the Terror was bad, and goes on to argue that "Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot are of the same mold" as Robespierre and its other architects. This strikes me as an overstatement in the extreme. Describing Robespierre's crimes, Kekes makes the following remark about the Law of 22 Prairial: "Empowered by this model republican justice, the Revolutionary Tribunal sent to death 1,258 people in nine weeks, as many as during the preceding 14 months." The death of 2,500 people in sixteen months isn't something to approve of, but it's not even remotely close to what happened in the great butcheries of the 20th century; Robespierre deserves better than to be put alongside Mao and Hitler.
Now the purpose of this overstatement seems to be to simultaneously smear the entire revolutionary tradition in France (see my former professor Patrice Higonnet's Goodness Beyond Virtue for a qualified defense of Jacobinism) and -- really -- to implicitly argue in favor of going to war with Iran. Probably in the real world, nothing will hinge on this point, but in light of the importance of the latter question it seems worth pushing back wherever possible.















The Terror bad. Sure. But it's not fair to lump in the whole French Revolution with The Terror. The aristocracy had it coming. The fact that the Revolution turned ugly is very, very bad; but it's grossly unfair to impute the Terror as a motive for the Revolution, rather than a side-effect.
I'm curious where you saw the Iran subtext. The word Iran is nowhere to be found; nor can I find "Middle East," "Shah," "Ayatollah," or any other hints.
April 23, 2006 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't agree with you, Matt. So Robespierre killed fewer? That overlooks (1) the provincial Terror, which under the aegis of the Parisian gov't killed many thousands in the provinces;
and (2) the fallacy of scale, best illustrated by the old joke about the tycoon who offers a beautiful young lady $1M to sleep with him, and when she accepts, lowers the offer to $500.00. "What kind of woman do you think I am?" "My dear, we have already established what *kind* of woman you are; now we are merely haggling over price."
The example of Robespierre, Saint-Just, etc. was available to Lenin and his cohort. Worse murderers existed before & since, but that is no reason to let Robespierre off, or to deny him his seat in the Pandemonium of political murder.
April 23, 2006 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Try it; it's eerie. If you read the subtitle -"The lessons of the first totalitarian revolution" - with a heavy emphasis on "first", you start to hear war shrieks off in the distance.
April 23, 2006 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem with your analysis that the joke doesn't actually prove anything, other than that $1000000 is more than $500. A million dollars is a lot of money, many people will do suprising things for that much money (see reality televison). Five hundred, not so much.
Similarly, killing 30 million people is different than killing 1500. Scale matters a lot.
April 23, 2006 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Robespierre's an odd figure. Up until right about the time he executed Danton (March 1794), I think pretty much all of his actions were justifiable. I mean, the early Terror wasn't pleasant, but pretty serious measures were needed to insure the survival of the Republic - recall that in 1793 there was not only a pretty serious foreign war with all France's neighbors and on all its borders (except the Swiss one), it also faced a massive peasant royalist uprising in the Vendée, and the revolts of several important cities (Lyon, Marseille, Toulon, Bordeaux, Caen) supporting the Girondins. In a situation like that, some kind of excesses are hard to avoid, and throughout this period, Robespierre was pretty clearly trying to limit the Terror, to make sure that excesses didn't occur, and to curb the enthusiasms of the more radical members of the committee (like Collot and Billaud).
But by the beginning of 1794 things are starting to look less urgent - the Vendée's been calmed, the Federalist uprisings by the cities have been suppressed, the Allied invasion attempts have failed - and Robespierre starts recentralizing control, and getting rid of the most extreme terrorists. This is when the Hébertists, one of the least attractive radical factions in the Revolution, got the axe. It's about after this that things start to go off the rails. Even though Robespierre himself has been intimating that it's time to end the Terror, he gets Danton and his friends executed for, essentially, saying that the Terror ought to be ended.
Then, even as the French armies are pretty conclusively putting an end to the threat of foreign invasion, he starts going crazy with the law of 22 Prairial and the massive numbers of executions and so forth. Plus, you get the wackiness of the "Festival of the Supreme Being".
I've never really understood what the hell happened to Robespierre. He seems to have just gone off the rails, to have started expecting that everyone should live up to his exacting standards of virtue, or something. At any rate, others did unto him what he would have done unto them, and he got the axe (or the guillotine) himself. It's hard to have much admiration for the guys who did him in, though. They were either opportunistic political cowards or people (like the aforementioned Collot and Billaud) who were actually more bloodthirsty than him. After Robespierre the Revolution pretty much loses all idealism. The Thermidorians and the Directory were venal and intensely uninspiring, and after them comes Napoleon, who was in his way at least as monstrous as Robespierre, without even the excuse that he thought he was creating a better world - all St. Helena myth-making aside, it's pretty clear that the main thing that interested Napoleon was getting more power to Napoleon.
So, Robespierre, I dunno. He's not a terribly attractive figure, but he's gotten a harsh deal - all the excesses of the French Revolution get heaped on his shoulders, even the ones that he himself tried to moderate - and he gets no real credit for his courageous stands in the 1789-1792 period, like his opposition to the death penalty (yeah, ironic, i know, but there's no real sense that this was insincere), to slavery, and to the war (he was much more insightful about the war than just about anybody else at the time.)
Robespierre's one of those people whose reputation would be a lot better if he'd died two years earlier. Hell, if he'd died 8 months earlier, people would probably be saying "If only Robespierre had lived, he'd have ended the Terror months earlier."
April 23, 2006 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
One can interpret this anegdote in several ways. One is the elasticity of supply in response to prices.
Second is that there is a little whore in almost each of us (truly, if you were offered a million dollars?)
So it also follows that there is a little Robespierre in each of us.
A mathematico-historical exercise: take a ratio of people killed by Robespierre regime over, say, Pol Pot (Mao would be even better, but he had much more time and people). Take the ratio of people tortured by Bush over people tortured by Saddam (you can add killed if you wish). Is Robespierre more of Pol-Pot than Bush is Saddam, or less?
Regardless of the answer, the conclusion is that we should bomb Iran, and perphas Ireland for a good measure (they harbored terrorists, didn't they?, and last time we skipped a country that starts with Ir... we learned to regret it).
April 24, 2006 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
i'm surprised that no one has mentioned that you can read the article - even the last paragraph(!?) - as an analogy for the bush regime at least as easily as you can read it as an analogy for iran.
April 24, 2006 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is disingenuous. The Jacobins killed far more people than is mentioned in this post. We shouldn't forget the September Massacres in which hundreds of prisoners were butchered (including several dozen children), or the Noyades and the other reprisals for the insurrection in the Vendee. Also, the Jacobins bear partial responsbility for the immense European war that lasted a generation and killed millions.
April 24, 2006 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
In my ninth grade English class, we read Dickens's A Tale of Two Cities. Connected with this, we had to write a "research paper" and include some kind of visual object. There were many mini guillotines decorating the classroom the day the assignments were due. Not being inclined to construction, I borrowed my dad's old anatomy textbook to diagram a cross-section of the neck -- just what the blade of the guillotine would have cut through and at what point people would have died. For some reason, people found this ghoulish.
Reading this post also reminds me of the theory, espoused in a lecture by one of my former professors, that there are two models of revolution: the American, based on rule of law, and the French, based on the will of the people. It goes without saying that the Russian and Chinese revolutions were modeled on the French. I'm not sure how apt the distinction is, but it's a fun idea to play with.
No, I didn't really have a point. :)
April 24, 2006 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe the point is....populism is bad, very very bad. And liberal institutions are good, very very good. I dunno, it may be just me, but I like the liberal institutional states of Chile and Brazil much more than the cult of personality, Chavesista state of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. I can see Lula giving up power peacefully after an election, Hugo, not so much. Franklin Foer's article in the Atlantic on the Hugo phenomenon is quite insightful on this point. It just drives home the fact that not only conservatives need to listen to Edmund Burke.
April 24, 2006 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink