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Normally, I spare this audience the basketblogging, but this is too good to ignore. Dwyane Wade says:

I've read Pride and Prejudice a couple of times. It's one of my favorite books, which usually surprises people. I guess they wonder how a love story from Regency England could be relevant to a 21st century basketball player from the Southside of Chicago. Class struggle, overcoming stereotypes and humble beginnings, getting out of your own way and letting love take over: these are things I can relate to, definitely. Reading the Classics is like opening a door to a world that at first looks so different from mine, but when I look closer, is filled with people who struggle with the same things I do. And the great thing is, they may be a little farther along in their struggle than I am, so I can actually learn something.
Well, it's one of my favorite books, too, and next time someone says anything funny about it, I'll just have my friend Dwyane beat them up.

To make a semi-serious point, there's a common assumption that we could cure all manner of inner-city ills if only prominent African-American athletes did more to act as role models. Hence the NBA Cares initiative under whose auspices we gain these pearls of literary wisdom. This strikes me as arguably misguided -- it's main effect is to further increase the valorization of star athletes and entertainers which merely entrenches the notion that unless you can develop Wade's level of basketball skills (which, obviously, the vast majority of people simply can't do no matter how hard they try) there's really no other constructive goals in life worth setting for yourself. What's needed is the valorization of people with modest, actually feasible achievements, combined with a recognition of the fact that star performers, while incredible, aren't people the rest of us should really bother trying to emulate.


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Matthew,

Consider a cap on salaries to athletes, and a requirement that teams be owned by municipalities or other entities that include all residents of a geographic region.

Perhaps also add a requirement that any peak salary for athletics must be paid for 30 years at 50% of its real peak, etc. (and regional calculations, etc.

This also relates to your misunderstanding of why people watch, say, basketball. While overall skill is important, people are not going to watch some superior robots perform. Part of the thrill is seeing the passion, not the money, that drives the players.

For the record, I am not on board with the above, but think it useful to consider that there is no natural law that says athletes must make ludicrous sums of money.

"What's needed is the valorization of people with modest, actually feasible achievements"

Have you ever tried to watch American Idol?

But aren't you getting things backwards? The assumed background of initiatives like that is that NBA players, or whatever, are already role models to kids. No amount of hyping moderately successful doctors and lawyers is going to change the fact that basketball stars are much more exciting to kids than some moderately successful heart surgeon, or something.

Given this situation, it makes sense to at least focus on athletes who actually do other things that make them good role models - like Shaq going back and finishing college, or Wade liking P&P.

Isn't there the "natural law" of supply and demand.? Huge amounts of money are made on professional basketball. It seems to me that if anyone deserves to get that money, it's the actual players (and coaches), rather than the owners.

The old pre-free agency system of pro sports, where players were essentially indentured servants of whatever team drafted them, was a horrific exploitation of the people who actually do the work.

I mean, my sister had Sam Jones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Jones_(basketball) as a substitute teacher in high school. It's completely fucking ridiculous that a Basketball Hall of Famer should have to be a high school substitute teacher to make ends meet. Which is why I get annoyed at people who say things about how professional athletes make too much money. There's lots of money in sports. If the athletes shouldn't get it, who on earth should?

I agree that the players deserve a reasonable cut of the total revenues in the sport. I specifically agree that the old pre-free agenc system of pro sports drastically underpaid the players compared to the profits being generated for the owners and gave them too little control over their careers.

On the other hand, the current huge revenues being generated by pro sports result in part from a variety of public subsidies and from pro sports using a century of goodwill plus massive advertising to convince fans to keep coming even as they raise the prices of everything from tickets to hot dogs to parking.

While sports salaries today are so high that the typical superstar has very little in common with the typical fan, any form of salary caps or other brute force attempt to reign them in is treating a symptom not a problem. High salaries for pro-athletes are no more of a problem that high incomes for other entertainers, or for CEOs. The real solution is to have an honest discussion on income inequality in this country and whether effectively removing progressivity from our tax system over the last half-century was a good idea.

I agree with both Matt and jlkenny.

Jlkenny is right that people already pay an inordinate amount of attention to sports stars and that this is probably not going to change, so if it is possible to change at least some of that focus to the ordinary things they do that are worth emulating, that is worth doing.

Matt is right that it would also be nice to provide more attention to all the people who have average or slightly above average levels of success but still have useful and admirable achievements to honor. Doing this would require a concerted effort by media, politicians, schools and parents and I haven't seen any will to provide such an effort but that doesn't meen it isn't worth talking about.

Matt is also right that in most respects, sports stars and other entertainers are not people the rest of us should be trying to emulate. This is not because sports stars in general are bad people, most of the aren't.

However, simply being rich and famous inevitably distorts the life they live in all kinds of ways. From having people try to become their friends for all kinds of shallow reasons, to having agents, managers, lawyers and others trying to protect them from any poor choices they make to having the option to spend more money on one night's entertainment than most people make in a year.

Sometimes these influences lead sports stars to act in very self-destructive or unadmirable ways, and sometimes they don't. However, the resulting lifestyles will almost always lead to problems for anyone that tries to emulate them without having lots of money and a big support team.

This strikes me as arguably misguided -- it's main effect is to further increase the valorization of star athletes and entertainers which merely entrenches the notion that unless you can develop Wade's level of basketball skills (which, obviously, the vast majority of people simply can't do no matter how hard they try) there's really no other constructive goals in life worth setting for yourself

While that is one perspective, there are others, far less cynical.

Consider the type of person who is most likely to read Wade's diary and find the entry intriguing.  It is likely to be a male child, with good athletic skills, who happens to like reading but it is not encouraged in his environment so he does not pursue that interest. Yet, he now reads, that this book was of interest to an athlete, like himself, he is far more likely to read it. That is a good thing.  No matter how you cut it.

The key being that the child does not have to beleive they can achieve what Wade has with basketball skills, they only need to IDENTIFY with Wade as an individual with their same interests, and likely from the same urban bkgrd, who also may not have had a peer group 'into education'...that will give the athlete more confidence and interest in pursuing some of his academic interests.  AND more importantly, if some knucklehead should ridicule him about it, he will be able to say WADE, likes Pride and Predjudice also...and that will shut down the trash talking, since his peer group more than likely admires WADE as a player.

I consider this scenario, far more likely, than the one you espouse.  I saw a similiar case with my son.  He did not want to go to a particular forum lecture being hosted at the University, until I told him that one of the speakers, was an NFL hall of famer....he went...and even introduced himself afterwards. That player now serves as a Chief Justice at the state level. He was impressed by what  the player had achieved outside of sports.

My point is, that often times, broadening an individual's exposure is about tapping into what interests and impresses him....not necessarily about what he personally believes he can achieve on his own merit, in terms of the athletic bkgrd of the person or his own personal athletic skills. 

Because realistically, these boys often know that they are already not as good as some of the boys they play ball with, but they have no other dream or interest or ability to introduce that into their present experience. Just knowing someone else who has done it...makes a HUGE difference.

Not to mention the fact, that it is  sports  figures and entertainment celebrities that receive the most press and that the child is most likely to be aware of. 

They are far less likely to see a Colin Powell, Faye Wattleton, Susan Rice, Ian Smith, Cornel West, Walter Massey,  Andrew Young, Reginald Lloyd, Maurice Ashley, Valerie Jarrett  in the news repeatively for a 20+ week long sports season where all there achievements are catalogued in a personal vignette for them to serve as role models.

In short, this is a wonderful thing that Dwayne Wade is doing and he should keep on doing it.  Lots of children will benefit from this, independent of whether they ever achieve his greatness in basketball.

 

High salaries for CEOs are a problem. They make far more than they deserve based on performance, as any of numerous studies show.

I am sure I was not quite clear. However,

Isn't there the "natural law" of supply and demand.?

This statement is really frought with problems, but for a quick answer, not really, and even if there were there is an "is/ought" distinction problem here.

My first point is that there is too much money in sports. I mean this in a couple of different ways. First, despite revealed preference for the current amount of spending, I think society would probably be better off spending that money elsewhere. Second, and more importantly, I think that if you took a great deal of the money out of professional sports the resulting product would lose very little value.

For example, consider a $200K cap on salaries, with a requirement that $50K be paid per year for the rest of the players life. There are a few players in, say, the NBA that might decide there were better options, but I doubt many would. That is a pretty good salary, a great pension, and there would still be the fame and the glory. In fact, I think there is an arguement to be made that the product might actually improve, because fans could better identify with more pure incentives. Skill level would decrease because 1) Players would have less incentive to practice 2) Some players would choose other professions and (importantly) 3) many less young children would aspire to the extent they do now to be professional basketball players. As Matthew, I think argues, 3) is probably a good thing as the overwhelming odds are against them.

You mention that if there is a lot of money, the players deserve it more than 'owners' or whatever. I could not agree more. I only think this has a chance of working with other owenership restrictions in place as well - the real goal would be to reduce the money in sports overall, to ensure that players had more even salaries over their lifetime, and to decrease the incentives for young children to put all their prospects into an exceedingly unlikely basket.

I replied to your early comment more substantively. See that for more.

As far as Sam Jones, what do you think he should be doing?

Do you realy think that because he was good at sports for a few years that the best thing for him to do is to do nothing more productive in his life, and to spend down the capital that he earned earlier?

I understand the sentiment you are getting at. This guy, relative to today's athletes got a raw deal. But that is relative to flaws in todyas standards.

[There are enormous difficulties in the execution of a policy something like what I laid out, probably fatal, but the underlining soundness of the goals is I think pretty clear cut.]

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