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I apologize for a tight schedule and internet-denied Thursday that has kept me from posting, but one last thought. I believe that Democrats and liberals in 2006 stand to have their greatest opportunity since 1992 (which was lost). You will have the substa ntial support of many lapsed Republicans and doubters of Bush conservatism like myself. But I also have the sense that many Democrats and liberals have an instinct for for the capillaries, not for the jugular. If that leads to failure in 2006, there will be a majorprice to pay, not just for theUnited States but in terms of the credibility of your party and movement.


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If the Democratic party leaders came to you, Kevin, and asked your advice on what one or two issues the Democrats should run on in the fall if they want to make the most of the opportunity, what would you say?  And what would you recommend that the party commit to doing on those 1 or 2 issues?

I feel that we are seeing the beginnings of going for the jugular with Feingold on censure and Murtha on Iraq. Are there enough Democrats in Congress with the courage and wisdom to go for the jugular? Are there enough new Dems running for office with those qualities? These are very big questions.

Tom

The jugular will be a domestic issue.  As important as it is to the intelligentsia, foreign wars and cloak and dagger issues are difficult to take advantage of without laying the groundwork for the next stabbed in the back movement.  Health care, housing costs, fuel costs (oil dependence), ethics, and competence all have more domestic impact.

In 2004 the issue was the Iraq War and we Democrats blew it.  In 2006 and 2008 it will still be the issue. 

IRAQ NEVER WAS ABOUT DEFENSE.

We would be a whole lot better off today if the Democratic Party had had the guts to go with Howard Dean.  

In this article Naomi Klein, a Canadian, gives  her analysis of how the Democrats lost the 2004 election.
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/21099/

 
YOU CAN'T BE STRONG ON DEFENSE IF YOU USE THE MILITARY FOR  NON-DEFENSE PURPOSES.

We will not long have a country unless we get a handle on the Defense budget.   Read Chalmers Johnson; there are two parts:


http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=70243

 

 

I agree with Phillips. It'd be a huge missed opportunity. This is the moment for the kill. Such moments don't come along every 2 years - you have to seize them when you can.

I feel that we are seeing the beginnings of going for the jugular with Feingold on censure

 

...but only from Feingold & Conyers;  John Stewart had it right when he said that fellow Democrats are treating him like he's Jack Abramov! 

Jan Knaus

I agree that Democrats are not used to going for the jugular. Even now, with all the havoc wrought by conservatism on the nation's finances, its foreign relations and its war on science (among other things) there isn't a systematic attempt on the part of liberals to make the case that the whole conservative philosophy as it is practiced belongs on the dustbin of history.

There is a noble conservative tradition of modesty, caution, prudence and competence that is no longer represented by the Republican party.  Conservatism has been redefined as almost the opposite of "conservative" - reckless, radical, corrupt and incompetent. That is the modern Republican party and it has the support of a small minority of the population. Why is no one making the case that not only is this brand of "conservatism" wrong for the country, it should be killed off entirely.

I've long thought that Democrats would do well to attempt a massive re-branding effort to convince the public that they are the true conservative party. The word "conservative" still retains positive associations, but the conservatism most people want is the traditional kind. It is the opposite of radical. It moves slowly and deliberately. After years of radical incompetence going back before the Bush years but accelerated since, this is probably what people are ready to hear.

J. McCutchen "JmacSF"

San Francisco. CA

Thanks for the visit Mr. Phillips.  You rocked this place without much didn't ya!

 

Best.

I'm terribly frustrated by Washington Democrats. They seem to be more interested in "getting along", than fighting back. This is ass kicking time, make no mistake, but they aren't getting it.

I think we need to run ads showing Katrina, showing anti-abortion crowds, showing Bush lying about the links between Iraq and Al-Queda, showing the budget deficit with a voice over saying: "this isn't your father's Republican party".

 

 

 

 

 

J. McCutchen "JmacSF"

San Francisco. CA

And hou could I forget!

 

Instinct for the capillaries

I'll get some mileage out of that line. Where's Harold Ford? Anyone seen Ed Kilgore?

 

Thanks again!

As part of the debate on "American Theocracy", people might find be interested in this interview with Rabbi James Rudin, the author of  The Baptizing of America: The Religious Right's Plans for the Rest of Us:

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/06/02/int06006.html

Excellent post Brad. To build on it a bit, I'd add that one of the things Democrats must do is to make it politically safe again to talk about the good things government can and should do for its citizens. To do this, however, Democrats must convince the public that they can be fiscally responsible. The average American wants government to provide certain basic services, but also wants taxes to be low. When Democrats talk about expanding government programs, a lot of voters run, fearing excessive taxes and meager benefits. The Democrats need to establish their credentials as cost-cutters and promoters of efficiency. With those credentials established, they can go on to talk about universal health care, Social Security, and the other programs that people want, but only at an affordable cost.  

Too add to that, what would sell something like national health care would be to show that it would save Americans money.  Show how it is cheaper to insure everyone, convince the voters that a national health care system wouldn't just become a bloated beauracracy.

 

National health care is such a big issue with me because, as a bankruptcy attorney, I have seen so many people ruined by medical bills -- even when they had very good health insurance.  This madness has got to stop. 

 

The very first law the Republicans passed after getting power in all branches of government was to pass the bankruptcy law.  It was like they were thinking: "There are too many people filing bankruptcy.  We need to stop this!"  But rather than looking into the primary causes and doing something about it, they decided it was better just to take away the only relief people had in our society.  It was like welding the cap on a pressure valve. 

 

A national health care system would have ended the need for over half the bankruptcies in this country.  Medical bills accounted for over half of all bankruptcies and was by far the biggest reason for bankruptcy.  I can tell you that, not just because there was a Harvard study that concluded that, I can say that as someone on the front lines who has seen it up front.  The next biggest reasons for bankruptcy were loss of income and divorce.  Overuse/overextention of credit was a dismal 4th -- accounting for maybe 10% of all bankruptcies.

 

Not only would national health care save money by ending bankruptcy as we know it, but it would drastically reduce personal injury lawsuit costs.  Medical bills comprise 33%-50% of all personal injury settlements from car accidents, etc.  Once you have a national health care system, you can then end the need for costly litigation in almost all personal injury and medical malpractice lawsuits.  It would then be much easier to go to a mediation system where costs could be contained and lawyer fees could be lowered as they are in worker's compensation cases.

 

Medical providers would benefit in that they no longer would have to hire collection agents to harass patients for money all the time, increasing stress levels and making the patients, who are already in a weakened state, even more vulnerable to infectious diseases because of a lowered immune system due to the higher stress levels.  This doesn't even mention how many workers in states like mine, at will employment states, end up losing their jobs due to the harassing phone calls and wage garnishments that employers don't like having to deal with.

 

The problem for the Democrats is convincing the voters that they should pay for health care through taxation, both corporate and income taxes, rather than as a benefit that employers pay for.  That is a tough sell to Americans who are so used to the current system, as broke as it is.  Plus, the external costs that I mentioned in the previous paragraph are not visible to the 80% who are healthy at any given time.  Then you have a large segment of the conservative movement that believes in Social Darwinism as an ideology anyway.  They will feel resentful that they have to "pay for someone else's health care."  I run into that a lot here where people resent having to pay taxes to "pay for someone else's children to go to school."

 

The argument needs to be made, but don't expect Red State America to support it any time soon.

 

 

 

Find the Truth. Do Justice.

No re-branding is necessary. The public is already convinced that Democrats are the true conservative party.

 

Congratulations.

 

Thanks for the tip:

This interview with Rabbi James Rudin  is an excellent
analysis.
  

http:// www.buzzflash.co m/interviews/06/ 02/ int06006.html

... but it's the Republicans who are being completely fiscally irresponsible.

1)Debt going up to 9 trillion

2) 400 billion dollar deficits

3) Cheney saying Reagan showed deficits don't matter

4) Cutting programs for the poor and middle class while approving pork and earmarks by the gazillions

5) Feeding the pig at the trough - the military industrial complex

6) cutting taxes on the really wealthy

7) trying to eliminate the inheritance tax

8) etc. ad nauseum

Tom

I believe that Democrats and liberals in 2006 stand to have their greatest opportunity since 1992 (which was lost).

I suppose he's gone now, but if you're here, Mr Phillips, I wonder if you could elaborate on the "lost opportunity of 1992."

 

Are you referring to that election, or to the subsequent impeachment mess (and what it may have done for Democratic inroads among conservative voters)?

Yes, and that's a point the Democrats should be making too. The Republicans are no longer conservative or fiscally responsible. They are the biggest spending party ever and--worse--they've put the cost of their profligacy on the nation's credit card leaving the bill--with interest--to our children and grandchildren. How's that for "family values?" 

bluebell

 

Conservatism and liberalism are both legitimate approaches to public policy but they are not one and the same.  If all we ever do is change our "brand" with the latest focus group, we don't deserve to be anything other than an ephemeral expedient choice at the polls to be replaced when a party which isn't afraid to stand for core principles comes along.  If the Democratic Party wants to become the Conservative Party, then we need a third party. 

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

 

People don't need another damned 10-point plan on how to bring down housing oil costs, or how to move 100,000 more kids onto Medicaid, or anything else.  Everyone knows the Democrats can put together plans to address the issues. They know we have solutions.

 

What no one believes is that these solutions are anything but hot air.  Right now the Democratic party is the political equivalent of the stoner dude who lives in his parents' garage, who tells you all the time what a kickass guitarist he is and how his band is going to be bigger than Clapton, man, but, you know, he's not a success yet because, see, the guy who had the van had to quit the band to work at Shoe-town, and since then they can't get to any gigs, because, you know, no van.  And the new guy we just got, he's so kickass on base, but he doesn't have a van.  But man, once we get that van we're gonna be huge!  Bigger than Clapton!


It's time for us to say what the people are saying--enough is enough!  These guys need a leash, and we're going to put one on them!  And we dont' care if they call us names, we don't care if they say we're going to lose every single midterm--for all we matter right now, I don't see how losing all our seats would make anything a lick worse.  

 

We need to stop pretending that we have any ability whatsoever to choose the turf on which we're going to have this fight.  We have almost no ability to set the national agenda.  We control nothing.  We can't issue subpoenas.  We can't hold hearings.  We can't even get a decent room for our press conferences.  We cannot take on the Republicans on an issue of our choosing because the media will not listen to us when we want to discuss these other issues.   Look at the Dubai--Democrats have been bitching and moaning about the ports since, literally, December 2001; John Kerry made a HUGE issue of port security, but it wasn't until the right wing media took a hold of it and forced the Republicans to respond to it that it caught fire. 

 

We control nothing.  We cannot pick which issue we want to fight Bush on and then go at him on it, no matter how important an issue it is to the American people.  No one will listen to us.  Republicans will choose the turf we fight this thing on, not us.  They control the agenda.  Accept it. 

 

That's why this Feingold thing is pure gold (no pun intended).  Whatever you thought of Feingold's resolution before, Republicans reacted andput it on the map, and now it's now out there, and it's got legs of its own.  Pundits and reporters are paying attention to where Democrats stand on it, and they're treating it like a referendum for "stand and fight" or "retreat." 

 

There's the battlefield.  We're almost certainly not going to get a better one than that.  We need to win there before we can pivot to social security, or healthcare, or housing, or any of ten thousand issues where we'll have the high ground.  But before we can do that, we need to win here.  

The most effective tactic Reagan used against Carter was to chuckle and say "there  you go again..."  He was ridiculing Carter, and doing it with a big smile, but everyone understood his contempt for Carter.  I kept hoping to see Kerry laugh at the absurd answers Bush was giving in their debates, using the same tactic.

 

I bring this up because today I saw a snip of a Bush speech where he was saying "the issue is, do you want to keep the government out of your back pocket?  You vote Republican if you do, because Democrats will steal your hard earned dollars if they get in."  That mantra will be repeated ad nauseum during this year's campaign.  And, that is where each candidate who hears that needs to laugh, point a finger and say "there he goes again - the party that is driving us into debt with irresponsible spending is the Republicans.  If you want a bankrupt country, just leave them with their hands in the till."

 

To me, that is grabbing the jugular.  Our usual calm detailed explanations, treating the opponent as if he were sane, is tapping the capillaries. 

 

Hoppy in Sacramento

I think what Phillips means with his line about whether we comprehend the opportunity available to us is really simple -- are we going to play this so each faction of the Democratic Party plays to its own collection of hobby horses, or are we going to find frames and language that appeal to the now alienated Independent and Moderate Republican Bush voters from 2000-- 02 and 04?  No ten point plan is going to appeal -- nor is a heavy on specific policy issues going to do the trick -- we need to professionally ecute at the local level -- because this election will be won or lost in specific states and specific congressional districts -- so it is nationally unifying theme and then the elements in specific locations.  In the end Phillips is asking whether we can discipline ourselves enough to persue a strategy for winning -- or are we going to emphasize our internal differences. 

Naw, censure is going after a small vein.  I'm sorry, it may sound big to you but it's not.  That's kind of what Phillips was saying.  Democrats have a penchance for grandstanding on minor issues, and hiding from major ones.

To clarify.  How does censure hurt Republicans?  Ohh, that Bush is a liar, a cheat and a thief.  Yeah, whatever.  We've been down that path before with Clinton.  Clinton still had 60% approval ratings.  Bush is in the 30's, but because of something else...

The jugular is the foundation of the Republican credibility on national security.  You take that out, and their party dies.

Why?  I said this back in 2004.  You look at the polls and where do you see trust?  Americans uniformly trust Democrats on just about every single domestic issue.

Where they have questions is on foreign policy.  It's a bad perception, but regardless, that's where it is.

Polls are not there to tell you what to do, they are there to act as a measurement as to how well your message is getting out.  If your polling behind on an issue, that means you need to address it better.

I honestly think that Clinton's Third Way was a masterpiece.  If you look at what the Labor party did in Britain with the very same theme, it was masterful.

Ignore Blair, focus on Brown and the party as a whole.  This Iraq war has been devestaing to them, but they did destroy the credibility of the conservative Tories.

Think outside the box.

 Quit thinking in terms of single-payer.  Think of other solutions which work towards the end-goal.  I thought Kerry's re-insurance plan was a masterpiece if he'd gone out there and explained it.

 

Agreed.

You don't win by arguing.  You win by laughing it off.

"If that leads to failure in 2006, there will be a majorprice to pay, not just for theUnited States but in terms of the credibility of your party and movement."

 

This sentiment is fundamentally backwards.  The price the country has paid for this clown show utterly trivializes the damage to Democrats or the progressive movement.

We were warned that 2004 was the most important election in the modern history of the republic.  Those warnings were insufficient, and the country bleeds for it.


The problems this presents to the progressive movement are akin to the pedicure needs of a cancer patient. 

They are a bit besides the point.

Re: People don't need another damned 10-point plan on how to bring down housing oil costs

 

No, but they aren't likely to get excized over events on the other side of the planet that have little effect on their own lives.  The GOP slide in the ratings didn't happen because of anything in Iraq; it happened because of Hurricane Katrina: on the one hand massive incompetence leading to the ruin of an American city, and on the other the sudden and painful spike in oil prices which hurt everyone. Forget Iraq: it doesn't matter. Political upheavals in this country have NEVER started over foreign policy; at best incompetent foreign policy may be seen as another example of overall incompetence (see: 1980 and Jimmy Carter). But it's the domestic issues-- the Great Depression, Carter's malaise and stagflation-- that motivate the electorate to throw the bums out.

Re: The very first law the Republicans  passed after getting power in all branches of government was to pass the bankruptcy law.

 

Problem with this statement is that the Democrats joined in quite gleefully in passing that bankruptcy law. It was a very bipartisan screwing of the citizenry for the sake of a deep-pocketed special interest.

Well a heck of a lot of the turmoli in the Sixties and early Seventies was because of Vietnam.

Tom

One more thing that would help here would be to explain the budget in clear terms:

 

The Republican party stole your charge card, and chages about $4,000 for each household *every year*.  Some of that money, perhaps $800 each year, is going directly to Iraq.  They send perhaps $600 to the typical family as tax breaks.  But thousands of it have gone as huge tax breaks to the very richest of the rich.  And of course, you have to pay back the entire $4,000 eventually.

 

You can't see the cost now, because the US government has an incredibly high credit limit, and they can spend your money without you signing anything.  But the spending is real, as is the US's obligation to pay interest on that debt, and pay the balance off eventually.

 

I've never heard the budget described that clearly, but it is accurate (there are about 100M taxpaying households in the US).

 

We should also show in simple pie charts the difference in marginal tax rates for people getting dividends (0% taxes), capital gains (15% taxes) and someone who works for a living (>30% taxes).  And we should promise to undo it.  I suspect that we can double the tax cuts seen by most people while still reducing the deficit, by treatiing dividends as regular income again, cranking capital gains taxes up marginally to 20%, say, and re-establishing the estate tax.  (Yes,  I need to check the #s)

 

There's no justification for 0% dividend taxes: why would you want to encourage companies to pay out their profits instead of reinvesting them in the company's growth?

 

We definitely need a Democratic pro-growth platform.  This would include lower taxes for most people, and a single payer health care (also helps job growth, because the marginal cost for adding an employee goes down significantly).

 

 

You go for the juggular by targeting the independents and centrists, and take back the *middle* from the GOP.  You're not going to hurt the Republicans by emphasizing your base any more: the base isn't big enough.

 

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