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Doesn't the phrase, "The gang that couldn't shoot straight," come to mind? 


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Just think of the hay the Republicans would make if John Kerry, say, had a similar mishap on one of his hunting trips.  But the Democrats don't have the attack machinery to take advantage of this gift.

"Hair-Trigger Dick" came to my mind . . .

And to think - if Fitzgerald had only indicted Cheney, he might be one of those future-felons that would be prevented from carrying weapons.

The Wyoming Republican, picked this week to be George W. Bush's vice presidential running mate, defended his conservative record in interviews on three network morning television programs Thursday.

On ABC's Good Morning America, he was asked why, in 1988, he was one of only four members of Congress to vote against banning plastic guns and also voted against a ban on armor-piercing ''cop-killer'' bullets.

''I was a great believer and am a great believer today in the Second Amendment, the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms, and that the solution to our gun problems really lies in enforcing existing regulations and laws that prohibit felons, for example, from owning guns, rather than imposing new requirements on law-abiding citizens,'' Cheney said.

 USA Today, 07/27/00.

One more - great headline from "Capitol Hill Blue": Guns Don't Shoot People, Vice Presidents Shoot People."

 I've always wondered if the VP had ever shot anyone before - being a hawkish draft-avoider and all.  Do you think anyone will have the cojones to ask him at his mea culpa press address?

what needs to be asked here:  Does the Vice President field dress and eat his kill?  Or is he merely a shooter in search of a trophy?  Cause dang if he didn't come close to getting a new head for the den....

Actually, the phrase that sprang to my mind was "coronary patient with inadequate blood flow to the brain."

But, did Cheney kill the quail dead? OK, so Crony season doesn't begin until March in Texas, did he bag the quail?

 

He has lots of experience shooting birds in canned hunts, see link from 2004 SFGate.com article:

 

......Dick himself blasted the living crap out of 70 birds, all by himself. That's right, 70. Plus an unknown number of mallard ducks. Then they had them all plucked and vacuum packed and sent back home to show off to the staff. Dick was driven back to the airport in a Humvee. Are we not all impressed?.........

 

link 

 

Alphonse ( Al ) Kada

 

Every report I have seen today states "accidental" in front of this story.  

 

How do they know?

 

For all you non-hunting liberals (like Kerry) out there, one of the cardinal rules of safe hunting is never to shoot when you aren't aware of your surroundings and the location of your fellow hunters.  The reports I've read so far indicate that this old man was behind the VP and another hunter, walked up behind them and didn't announce his presence.

 

The VP, with a bead on a quail, spun around as it flew over him and fired without seeing this elderly lawyer.

 

Now as everybody knows, a quail is one of those really big, meaty animals that are prized by self-sufficient pioneers like Cheney as a good way to put meat on the table for his family.

 

Err, check that, a quail is a small bird about the size of a sewer eagle that holds little, if any, meat for even one person after beign blown apart by a twelve gauge.  Even less tasty than "free-range" if it was on a farm that was specifically raising soybeans and other crops that attract quail.  If it was, say, one of those farms that was being paid a subsidy to turn under it's soybeans rather than putting them on the market as a way of price support to corporate family farms.  What a great income stream- government checks in the springtime and "seasoned" hunters in the winter. 

 

But what we know is someone got shot.  At a place where all concerned would echo the NRA guidlines on safe hunting in any photo op sound bite.

 

What should be asked is what would be asked if this were "Joseph F. Sixpack" on reporting a hunting accident:

Was this really an "accident"? 

Who was this man and what was his relationship to the shooter?

Did alcohol have anything to do with this "accident"

 

Then let us judge for ourselves. 

 

Al Kada 

Looks like the Administration's domestic policy matches its foreign policy. 

This screams out "Darwin Awards!"

The White House waited 24 hours before telling the public of the shooting.

 

I shot the lawyer, but I did not shoot the attorney.
I shot the lawyer, but I did not shoot the attorney.

 

All around in my home town
They're trying to track me down.
They say they want to bring me in guilty
For the killing of a attorney,
For the life of a attorney.
But I say:

 

I shot the lawyer, but I swear it was in self-defense.
I shot the lawyer, and they say it is a capital offense.

 

Lawyer H. Wittington always hated me;
For what I don't know.
Every time that I plant a seed
He said, "Kill it before it grows."
He said, "Kill it before it grows."
I say:

 

I shot the lawyer, but I swear it was in self-defense.
I shot the lawyer, but I swear it was in self-defense.

 

Freedom came my way one day
And I started out of town.
All of a sudden I see lawyer H. Wittington
Aiming to shoot me down.
So I shot, I shot him down.
I say:

 

I shot the lawyer, but I did not shoot the attorney.
I shot the lawyer, but I did not shoot the attorney.

 

Reflexes got the better of me
And what is to be must be.
Every day the bucket goes to the well,
But one day the bottom will drop out,
Yes, one day the bottom will drop out.
But I say:

 

I shot the lawyer, but I did not shoot the attorney, oh no.
I shot the lawyer, but I did not shoot the attorney, oh no.

 

If its good for me it must be Good 4 A Merica

RECKLESS!

Wasn't it Democrats who couldn't be trusted with security?

 Howard Dean today on TV compared Cheney to Aaron Burr.  Perhaps Dean had already heard about this shooting and had that in mind for his comparison, as well as the treasonous activities of both.  And, as I recall my history, Aaron Burr wasn't a terribly good shot either.

Hoppy in Sacramento

It seems as if the mantra of this administration is "Shoot first. Dodge questions later."

Just Think!  What if he had shot JACK ABRAMOFF!!! Now that would be a story!!!!

I also find myself thinking that maybe those duck-hunting trips with Scalia aren't so problematic after all.

I'm afraid your historical recollection is faulty.

 

Take a look at the guy on the ten-dollar bill.  Looks pretty young and handsome, doesn't he?

 

Guess why? 

True, we don't have Fox et al., but we do share other secret weapons with the Piranha Brothers: "...sarcasm....dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and...satire."

 

Dick Cheney: Solving the Medicare crisis, one senior citizen at a time.

 

Dick Cheney: Hands-on tort reform, one lawyer at a time.

 

Maybe we oughta be glad he dodged Vietnam.  The last thing a soldier wants when he's crossing a rice paddy is to have "Hair-Trigger Dick" Cheney behind him with an automatic weapon.

 

Hell, it scares me just to see him impersonating Truman Capote playing cowboy in a boat. 

 

Say....this is in Ronnie Earle's district, isn't it? 

 

Maybe Whittington looks like Libby?

-Dave Adams-

Their new motto:

    We shoot our voters first over here cuz we're tired of getiing shot first over there.
      This thread is hysterical. I think Dems finally have a shot at national security.

are there any legal penalties in Texas for shooting a guy?  Even accidentally?  Ironic how early reports (that are 24 hours old before they leak) all state that Whittington was at fault for approaching the Vice President from the rear.  Is this to state the VP is allowed a 360 degree firing zone?

But there is only one real question in my mind.  What type of firearms would have been brought down on a shooter who accidentally shot the Vice President, in the same situation?

Cheney clearly is a jerk, but maybe we can use him in one of those unarmored humvees that Rummy has available in Iraq... 

 

 

Chickenhawk 5-deferment-Cheney gets his first kill.

 

Now he's been in the shit.

 

Private Joker'd be proud. 

 

 

Dissent Protects Democracy

The bag limit on lawyers in Texas is 5, but you can take 10 if you get a "Varmit Stamp".

Three rich croakers hunting from cars with an ambulance standing by -- priceless.  From now on Cheney will be known as Deadeye.  Fits him to a T.

J. McCutchen "JmacSF"

San Francisco. CA

Hunting Accidents - Juan Cole

Al Kada said,

 

"For all you non-hunting liberals (like Kerry) out there,..."

 

I liked most of your post, but why did you need to put this bit in? 

 

One of the more annoying things about the grief Kerry took over the hunting outing during the 2004 campaign is that UNLIKE Cheney, he is a real hunter.  While going hunting at that time was definitely a campaign stunt, it is well-established that hunting - duck, quail, deer, other game - is a real part of Kerry's life going a long way back.

Wouldn't it be safer for the Vice President to head down to the local animal shelter, pick out the strays who need to be put to sleep, and stomp on their heads?  After all, it's hard to see how that would be any less sporting than shooting 417 of 500 crate-raised pheasants who have never been outside of a cage.

This way, nobody gets shot and nobody has to spend thousands of dollars raising birds.  All he'll need are some solid work boots.

In Virginia, lawyer season is limited to the first two weeks of October.  Must be longer in Texas. 

 

If its good for me it must be Good 4 A Merica

As is now being disussed shooter rules place responsibility on the shooter. Wheeling 180 and shooting is never going to satisfy the clear-downrange rule. Even more stupid was shooting low. If you're bird hunting and shoot upwards you can't hurt anyone. Even with no choke on the spread pattern how does Cheney hit someone who isn't levitating?

Good thing Cheney was never in the Army, for the sake of his fellow soldiers. 

"Doesn't the phrase, 'The gang that couldn't shoot straight,' come to mind?" I'd tell you, but then I'd have to shoot you. 

http://www.haberarts.com/

"Did alcohol have anything to do with this 'accident'?"  A good question that the Secret Service undoubtedly helped keep secret.

 

I guess if you are the VP, you don't have to run over your lawyer, you can just point a gun and shoot.  By next week, expect a lot of great lawyer jokes.
 

If its good for me it must be Good 4 A Merica

Ir's worse than that. The White House left it to the "ranch" owner to talk about it. And from what I've seen on the web, the story was broken by a local police reporter in Corpus Christi.

Some immature fun: 

The lyrics are a few years old, but this song, performed to the tune of Aerosmith's "Janie's Got a Gun", is playing today on a number of good-ol-boy radio stations.

My favorite right-wing cultural barometer is my office mate, Chris, who's kind of a good ol boy himself.  He tells me that the reaction among his sources today to the Cheney hunting "accident" is overwhelmingly one of ridicule -- any chance Cheney has of ascending to the throne in 2008, given his heart conditions, his general reputation as a hairtrigger and a buffoon, etc., seem to be evaporating.  Remember, you heard it here first ;)

 

Cheney's Got A Gun
 

Cheney's got a gun, Cheney's got a gun
The whole world's on the run
Great news for Halliburton
What did poor Iraq do?
What is it going thru?
They say He turned the biddings over, and Halliburton's going insane!
The other oil-filled nations, see that Cheney's got a gun and
they ain't never gonna be the same!

 


Cheney's got a gun, Cheney's got a gun
Libya's nose has run
Bin Laden's having too much fun!
Americans feels so renewed
It's safe to travel and buy shoes!
The price others have to pay-pay
So George is elected again!
Iran has got it comin' while Libya's balls are hanging and
Gaddafi hides his head in shame!

 

Run Away, 'Cos His daughter's so GAY yeah yeah yeah yeah
Run away run away from the pain yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Run away, run away, run, run awaaaaay

 

Cheney's Got a Gun, Cheney's Got a Gun
Your dog day's just begun
Screw all your possessions
What did Bushes daddy do?
Damned us all to get screwed!
He jacked Iraq up with them weapons, Saddam was his Bestest Friend!
Now his son pretends that's hogwash, Saddam is such a threat and
We're all in for a lotta pain!

 

Cheney's Got a Gun
Cheney's Got a Gun
Cheney's Got a Gun
Everybody's on the Run

Unfortunately for Kerry, his hunting clothes looked absolutely fresh off the rack.  Why didn't he borrow some from a local resident that made it look like Kerry really had used them?  Not a very wise move. . . .  

jimbonita

Time for a change - Vote Democratic!

There's always this trusty old favorite from Tom Lehrer.

 The Hunting Song
 

I always will remember,
'Twas a year ago November,
I went out to hunt some deer
On a morning bright and clear.
I went and shot the maximum the game laws would allow:
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.

I was in no mood to trifle,
I took down my trusty rifle
And went out to stalk my prey.
What a haul I made that day!
I tied them to my fender, and I drove them home somehow:
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.

The law was very firm, it
Took away my permit,
The worst punishment I ever endured.
It turned out there was a reason,
Cows were out of season,
And one of the hunters wasn't insured.

People ask me how I do it,
And I say "There's nothin' to it,
You just stand there lookin' cute,
And when something moves, you shoot!"
And there's ten stuffed heads in my trophy room right now:
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a pure-bred Guernsey cow.

Was the quail named Dan?

Tom

Well, Burr did kill Alexander Hamilton.

Tom

Alphonse ( Al ) Kada

 

Well, that explains your misuse of the ratings.  If a jab at a staged event that backfired offends you, so be it.

 

The opening line was meant tongue-in-cheek to all that have never hunted, would never have been exposed to safe hunting procedures and would never translate "gun control" into "hitting your target".  

 

The main thrust of the post still stands-  why is the VP allowed deference when his actions as a private citizen (outside of the political function of his office) result in severe injury or potentially death?

 

Why was the news of this irresponsible action censored for so long?

 

What if this was just Cheney's way of sending a message to the people this lawyer may have been representing?

 

Hunting accidents do happen, but only when all involved are not paying attention to the rules of conduct regarding loaded weapons.

 

(sorry I am unable to get paragraph breaks, it seems)What got me, on the local news last night, was when they reported the official WH press release as saying "We are happy that he is doing so well in recovery."  There was nothing to the effect of "The Vice President is sincerely sorry..." or even the tried and true "The Vice President regrets...(that he damn near blew out an innocent man's brains)"  But then again, that would have required some element of graciousness.  I definitely got the impression from the news last night, where they quoted a hospital spokesperson as saying that because of the man's age, hospitalization in Intensive Care was required.  Call me crazy, but I would have thought it unsurprising that a human being with gunshot wounds to the head, neck and torso would be hospitalized.  So I took that as a sign that there had been an issue either with whether the guy would be in ICU and possibly whether he'd be hospitalized at all.  Leno and Letterman should have a field day with this one.Gives new meaning to the saying "Shoot first, ask questions later."  But look at it from Cheney's point of view.  If he'd have been just a split second too late he might not have shot down (what he thought was) that quail. The way the whole thing has so far been handled is entirely consistent with the entire MO of this Administration--the secretiveness, the defensiveness, the contempt for the public's sensibilities, etc.

Didn't they make a joke out of him hunting, without incident mind you, during the presidential campaign?

I hear there is a new commercial out to follow up on the one about the two squirrels that cause the automobile accident. This new one features two quails.