Carts, Horses, and Judges

The scant merits of his nomination aside, I think it's unlikely that we'll see a serious anti-Alito effort from Democrats on the Hill. The political judgment going into that strategy may be mistaken (I tend to find the case against a huge fight persuasive, but I could be swung the other way) but the ordering of priorities it reflects is, I think, correct. At the end of the day the one and only way to halt, reverse, or even slow the judiciary's rightward evolution is for more progressive politicians to get elected. A Democratic Senate minority faced with a Republican White Hose simply isn't well-positioned to fight on this front as a general matter. Yes, you can succeed in a rear-guard action or two here or there, but as long as conservatives control the political branches fights over judges are going to be purely defensive fights and you're destined to lose ground. It just becomes a question of losing ground more or less quickly.

No matter how passionate you are about the judicial question, the priority needs to be on elected more progressive Senators and a Democratic president. It's the election outcomes that determine the shape of these battles and fundamentally structure the range of possible outcomes. Losing elections and staging filibusters simply can't accomplish very much.


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avatar It just becomes a question of losing ground more or less quickly.

And with all due respect, if there's Any Chance to prevent a Supreme Court Justice Alito, then not taking that chance will certainly represent "losing ground quickly."

But if you're suggesting that Democrats are putting all their energies into "elect[ing] more progressives," and so can't prioritize defeating Alito, well, OK.

I just hope you're proven right about that one!
avatar But are those two goals necessarily opposed to one another? Couldn't making Alito look bad in the hearings help advance the effort to defeat Republicans on Election Day? Maybe that doesn't mean filibustering, but maybe it does.

I'm reminded of 1992, when the bad vibes caused by the Clarence Thomas hearings ended up hurting the GOP at the polls later that year.
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There is a lot more to being a US Senator than trying to get more progressive senators elected. Unless I am mistaken, one of those other things they are charged with doing is providing "advice and consent" for judicial appointments. Any individual senator who sits quietly as an inappropriate person is approved for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court is simply ignoring his job. Democratic senators need to put up a fight over Alito, a losing fight for sure, but not fighting sends a terrible message to all citizens - that we are politicians, first, last, always and only.

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If Alito is elevated to the Court Democrats better figure a way to organize at both the Federal level and the state level.  There is no doubt that virtually every right, every protection will be up for grabs politically.

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"tend to find the case against a huge fight persuasive"

 You really should share your evidence; I don't think there's any voting behavior data that suggests that judicial nominations play a significant role in elections...

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I don't understand why, if your party's biggest branding problem is that people think you're wimps who don't know what you stand for, you'd walk away from a fight that will give you the opportunity on page 1 of every newspaper in the country to declare what you stand for and to fight for it.  


Furthermore, I don't get why you'd do it when you've got an unpopular President with a 40% approval rating, and where if you've got a brain in your head you can tie in the nominee's problems to the Administration and Congress's problems--credibility issues, gripping anecdotes of governmental overreach (no one likes strip searches of 10 year old girls), abuse of office by refusing to recuse oneself as promised (culture of corruprion?), support of an imperial presidency that echoes of Nixonian logic, etc.  


What the hell are we worried about?  Losing?  Um, does he get more on the Supreme Court if we stand up to him and lose?  Are we worried about the Republicans calling us names because we filibuster?  I don't recall conservatives worrying about that when they were talking about filibustering Harriet Miers.  


This guy is a bad judge.  He's Scalia bad.  If we can't do it for America, we need to do it for ourselves--we at least have to give 'em a bloody nose when they send us a guy like this.  Because, you know, there could be another judicial opening.  Unlikely, but three years is a long time.  

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I find this reasoning extraordinarily unpersuasive. First, as noted above, allowing Alito to go in without much of a fight would certainly accelerate the rightward march of the courts. But, most importantly, a vigorous fight against Alito would further the goal you profess is paramount: electing progressive candidates. A strong effort to paint Alito as an extremist on abortion, Presidential power, civil rights, voting issues, etc. would energize the progressive community and, if it were to actually generate enough political momentum to block the nomination, would be a great boost to the entire cause.

If you're not going to fight guys like this, what's the point? 

avatar This seems wrong.  I think Alito's nom needs to be fought, and with a filibuster if that's what it takes.  Win or lose, the Dems need to stand up and speak out and vote no.  One reason the Dems haven't done better at the polls themselves is because they lack backbone, at least in the eyes of many voters.  Here's a chance to show some backbone.  With a little luck they can keep Alito off the court, and that would indeed be something.

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BriVT is right.  Refusing to block Alito is a dereliction of duty.   Roberts was bad enough but I understood.  It's time to use all that dry powder.  And if the Dems don't, I think <a href="http://casadelogo.typepad.com/factesque/2006/01/le_mew
_has_yet_.html">I know why</a>.

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One more time:  people who work really hard at every tough task get better at what they do, they get stronger, they get tougher, they look tougher.  People who sit out the ones they know they aren't going to win, or the ones the don't think are important enough to fight, get out of practice, get weaker, get pastier.  And they look weaker, which is perhaps even more important.

You claim to be a basketball fan Matt.  What happens to a good team that sets up a schedule of patsys, vs a somewhat less good team that sets up a schedule of opponents better than itself?  Even it the 2nd team doesn't win as  many regular season games, I know who I would bet on in the playoffs.

sPh 

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Sorry, I disagree with both the merit of what seems to me the forming Democrat consensus and your stance of "swingability." I don't see why a principled unswerving opposition in this case would be a liability for Democrats.  'Principled' entails something like 'justified by the merits of the case', and there is ample evidence that Alito is a judicial ideologue, not a milquetoast "rule of law" type.

Perhaps an interesting question you might ask (yourself, too) is: Suppose that a Democratic president has nominated Laurence Tribe or Lani Guinier, and a Republican Senate minority is deciding on the response. What do you think they would choose to do?

avatar Several posts have made the point that this is good politics because it allows Dems a high profile spotlight to contrast themselves with the Repubs and to show that they do, in fact, stand for things and are willing to fight for them.  In tandem, it fires up the base and (win or lose) a scathing nomination battle will be fresh in the base's mind come November. 

In fact, the politics may even favor fighting like hell and losing since a win may fire up the republican base just as much or more but a loss will remind our voters (and republican moderate women) that abortion is a salient issue and that choice can be taken away if enough anti-choice judges are appointed. 

The salience of abortion in 1991 when it looked like Thomas could tip the balance (and he would have if Kennedy hadn't changed his mind at the last second) help spur the so-called "Year of the Woman" in 1992 when moderate republican and independant women went to the polls for Dems. 

This is also the perfect time to provoke the nuclear option.  We adverted it when the fight was about several obscure Court of Appeals nominees, but now we have a hard right, anti-choice royalist who has a long record and is up for the most high profile job in the Judiciary Branch.  This fight will never have a higher profile and there will never be a greater chance to solidify the minority's right to check the majority. 

If they pull the trigger and win, then fine.  We will confirm that the fillibuster is a hollow option(the other alternative is never invoking it for fear the repubs will cheat their way into destroying it).  The Dems will be a majority in the Senate one day and either we get the full use of the Filibuster now or we get rid of it so we can push our agenda without its constraint in the future. 

The only excuse for avoiding the Nuclear Option is that if we lie low and preserve its availability (without ever daring to use it) then one day less crazy, power-hungry repubs will be elected and the option will survive because the trigger wasn't pulled now.  That strategy is a fairy tale because they don't care about comity and the only way to change things is to defeat their majority in which case we have preserved this option only so it can be used against our agenda. 

We are stupid to unilaterally protect the comity of the Senate and the rights of the minority.  We stand for that and we should challenge the republicans to stand with us or to lose those protections when they find themselves in the minority. 
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If not Alito, then who is worthy of a filibuster?


We have clear right-wing ideology replacing a swing voter on the bench. People are looking for a balance -- no one party should run the country. No one party should run the SCOTUS.


What more do we need to put up a fight here?


Yes, we also need to elect more progressives into office. But we should also oppose Alito.

avatar Jeebus Matt, you couldn't be more wrong, as the above posters point out.

The best reason to fight this creep, and he is a creep in every sense of the word, is because he has no business being ANY kind of judge, and most assuredly not a lifetime appointee to the highest court in the land.

If we don't stop him, and certainly if we don't try, what are the chances of regaining a majority in any house?  How do you think all the inevitable appeals for all the corrupt Republicans will fare with a stronger majority of conservatives, utterly unprincipled conservatives, on the bench?

How well do you think even the investigations from the bush Justice Department will go given the strong bushlickspittle leanings of the SC?  How much pressure will there be on Justice Kennedy to either go along or git along with those 4 thugs sitting all around him?

Do you think any diebold related investigations will end up with a good result for Democracy if they have the ironclad fallback support of the Supreme Court?

And what everyone else said upthread!

It's one of the few guarantees in life, if you don't oppose the other side, everyone and everything becomes one side.

And we all lose.
avatar Mr. Yglesias, were you typing this while staring dreamily at your autographed picture of Michael Kinsley?
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One of the tactics that can and should be used against Alito is his defference to the executive branch of government and the unconstrained powers that it may weild.  Traditional conservatives and libertarians have a very difficult time with the growing powers of the executive and the infringement on civil rights.  It is this crowd that has been much more far-sighted than the Republicans currently running the show.  In the future the presidency will not be held by a Republican or could be held by someone (unbeleivably) even more ideological than the current administration.  The current powers being abdicated by the legislative and possibly now judicial branches to the executive may tip the scales for the next 20-40 years to come and will not be easily undone.   Imagine what it would take now for consititutional amendments limiting executive power, because that's what it will take to undo the damage this administration and possibly this SCOTUS will create.  And unlike the Roe and CMA crowds looking to undo judicial decisions that impact the citizenry (and arguably a limited set within), judicial actions which alter the checks and balances on powers within the branches of government affect all the citizenry and have large implications on international relationships and foreign actions. 

 The time to act may be now.  I agree there's not enough smoke to claim there's a fire, but that may be a problem of perception and not reality.

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At the end of the day the one and only way to halt, reverse, or even slow the judiciary's rightward evolution is for more progressive politicians to get elected.


Duh.


A Democratic Senate minority faced with a Republican White Hose simply isn't well-positioned to fight on this front as a general matter.


Double Duh.


No matter how passionate you are about the judicial question, the priority needs to be on elected more progressive Senators and a Democratic president. It's the election outcomes that determine the shape of these battles and fundamentally structure the range of possible outcomes. Losing elections and staging filibusters simply can't accomplish very much.


Triple Duh.


So, is there any nominee of Bush's that would be worth attempting to stop? Or should we just cry "helpless" and let slip Janice Rogers Brown, Bork, and Dobson for the next three open spots?


At some point, doesn't one have to take a stand?


You may not think we've reached that point. That's fine. But be intellectually honest - and instead of just ignoring the issue, tell us when we do.


Your points about winning elections are correct, and obvious. But they don't negate the responsibilities of current Democratic representatives to their constituencies.

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"Extraordinarily unpersuasive" is just the right moniker for the original post!

 Standing up for what you believe and also winning in 2006 elections are NOT mutually exclusive. In fact, one will definitely reinvigorate the other. Republicans have for long fought to define what "RNC" stands for - fiscal conservatism, strong defense, strict right wing ideologies etc. - in the face of contrary evidence (Reagan, Bush 41, and specially Bush 43 have displayed the greatest fiscal irresponsibility when it comes to non-defense spending; Bush 43 has spent more on expensive defense systems, but underfunded VA programs, and also fiscal support for armed force salaries; the Republican nominated Supreme Court justices have been the most "activist" when it comes to overruling the legislature). In face of all of this, the vox populi believe in the Republican message.

 

What is the Democratice message? There is none that is succintly defined - it is a large laundry list. In this iPod-driven era, people don't have time for that. They need the 19 second sound bite.

Towards that end, Alito's nomination is the best opportunity for Democrats to define what they stand for - moderation, and protecting individual rights against the might of the state. 54 Republican senators be damned.

 

Mr. Yglesias, what are you drinking these days? 

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What if they nominate Björk? Think about it.

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next week's SNL sketch. Bork Bjork!

avatar Matt,

The weak spot in your argument is the fact that Alito is relatively young, as are Roberts and Thomas.   This means that we are stuck with a hard-right SCOTUS for a very long time.  Electing a few more progressives to Congress in '06 and '08 would be nice, but it won't be a corrective for the dire situation on the Court.
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Before you win an election, you need a case for why voters should vote for you.

If you're too chickensh!t to stand up for what you believe in, or just don't have anything you believe in, why should anybody bother voting for you?

It's time for DC Democrats to get some fire in them.  The whipped dog act doesn't win elections.  Murtha has shown one way it can be done.  Waiting for the Abramoff/Fitzgerald tooth fairy is not a strategy.

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I tend to think that a vigorous, united opposition to Alito would very much redound to the benefit of the Democrats, providing they make a positive, forthright case for liberal judicial principles at the same time. Say what you will about the right's judicial philosophy - at least they have some clear sound bites: "activist judges", "legislating from the bench" yadda yadda. So now they have most of America declaring their outrage over activist judges even though it's a completely nonsensical issue. Conservative judges, especially on the SCOTUS, tend to vote to overrule Congress more often than the liberal justices.




Democrats need to be the party of protection of rights, balance of power and freedom. As the GOP moves more and more in an authoritarian direction, this is the open political space out there and the Alito nomination is the perfect chance to showcase this.




Democrats should oppose Alito vigorously (though a filibuster would be of dubious benefit and almost certainly wouldn't succeed) and use it as way to engage the right in the battle of ideas. For too long, Democrats have stood by and watched the right redefine the judicial debate or worse, make everything come down to the nominee's position on abortion. We are the mainstream and they are the radicals. Public opinion is on our side. It's time we took advantage of that.

I like Mathew and generally respect his opinions but in this case I feel he is dead wrong.

If we are trying to show that Democrats are not wimps and fight for our principles and for all the people not fighting as hard as possible against a candidate like Alito is a losing strategy.

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Our Democratic leaders [sic] seem to be saving their political capital to get a nicer room in the ante-chambers of Hell.

avatar I certainly side with those who favor picking a battle here.  But I think it only makes sense if we stick to a message that promotes our big ideas.  I think standing up for less deference to the executive, or "liberal judicial principals" (whatever they might be!) will do more harm than good.

We need to think about how the other side will respond.  We should get up and say Judge Alito should not be confirmed because he opposes a woman's right to choose.  He should be opposed because he is against the rights of working Americans.  He should be opposed because he believes that the rich and powerful know what's best for America, and doesn't trust regular voters.

If we can't elevate our message to this level, then let's turn the whole she-bang over to Biden and plan our next "Better Luck Next Time" party now.

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Presidents get to pick judges.  That's it.  I don't like the ones W picks but that's just the way it works.  Yes, the Senate has a say in the matter but I don't see that the minority party really has much say in this whole matter.  And you also must remember that the republicans largely voted for clinton's supreme court nominees.  Where they really were asses was with his appelate court judges.

We have to understand that one day there will again be a democrat in the white house....and he will be appointing judges......and we will want them to get through a possibly republican senate.  We need to look ahead in these things.

 

Another thing to note.....if Scalito gets in there (and he will).....and if Roe falls (and it will)....then we've got an election issue that has not worked for us in years now possibly working to our favor.

avatar First off, thinking that Alito will put abortion issues in the Democrats' favor is ridiculous.  It's kind of like thinking that a Bush administration will lead to greater concerns about environmentalism and alternatives to war in the Middle East.  Go Nader.

Abortion is quite likely to be rolled back slowly, so that some people will have easy access to abortion and others have very little or none.  In terms of electoral politics, that's not going to be a drastically different situation from what we have now.

The stuff about the Republicans being constrained by a sense of "fair play" is similarly laughable.  Boy, the Republicans must be kicking themselves for impeaching Clinton.  Not only did they not get the White House back in 2000, they opened the door so that a Republican President could get impeached for the most trivial things!  Oh wait that's only in Fantasy Land.  In reailty it served them quite well.
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Matt,
It is 2010, and President Feingold nominates a very liberal judge to the Supreme Court.  As liberal as Alito is "conservative"  Do you think the Radicals will play nice and let the nomination slide through, or fight the nomination to the bitter end?

sPh 

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Today, Republican Senator Tom Coburn said at the Alito hearings "...it's about Roe..." (IIRC). Indeed it is. Democrats like Matthew Yglesias don't get what every college Republican does: flexing your muscles strengthens, not weakens them.

The Democrats are out of power. Rare is the opportunity for them to decisively affect America's future. This is it. This is why the powder has been kept dry. Filibuster Alito. There is no downside. Democratic Senators: prove to the nation a vote for you is not wasted.

The stars are all aligned for the Democrats to shock the MSM and the electorate with a cogent and justified show of power:

  1. Bush has lost the public's trust.
  2. The Republicans vetoed a Bush nominee, Miers, the Democrats are owed one.
  3. Frist is too weak to use the nuclear option. He cannot stop the Democrats from shutting the governmnet down, and the ruling party in an election year won't risk that.
  4. Bush can't afford the SCOTUS nomination to turn into another ugly spectacle of Washington incompetence.
  5. The Democrats have the votes to filibuster.

And the rationales are media-friendly:

  1. Alito will let them strip-search your daughters.
  2. Alito will let them read your mail without a warrant.
  3. Alito will let them ban abortion. 
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I agree!  How are Democrats going to get elected if Americans never hear why it matters to elect them?  If this nomination doesn't matter, what does?  If it doesn't matter, why elect a Democrat instead.  Democrats are not going to win until they can provide a reason they should win and they have to use every opportunity they have to sell, sell, sell, and explain, explain, explain, why it matters. 

avatar matt's self defeating talk has to go...losers like him have led our party's conventional wisdom for far too long.  It's time to fight and set aside the weak links in our party.  It's time for the grassroots to hold our leaders accountable.  It's time to fight and make sure that we protect our Consitution from a Rebublican take over.  This is more than politics....

Technical point of some signficance: The President does not "pick", he nominates people for appointment.

What really worries me about Alito is his embracing of expanded Presidential power. It is paradoxical, though, for Congress to want Alito since he has more often than not acted to limit Congress.

A creepy explanation for politicians supporting a judge that argues for nearly unlimited Presidential power is that they expect to be able to guarantee a President they like. How can the GOP get behind someone that would legitimize the freedom to surveill political enemies? Some Republicans won't; the wonder is that any will. 

Those politicians must have asked themselves if they want new NSA programs run by Hilary. Do they know something we don't? 

avatar Abortion is quite likely to be rolled back slowly, so that some people will have easy access to abortion and others have very little or none. 

Slowly?  That's already happened.  South Dakota has one abortion clinic on the edge of the state.  It has ZERO doctors who perform abortions.  Doctors from Minnesota fly into SD, perform abortions, and fly out.  The Hillarys of our party will be content if abortion is available in Manhatten and LA.
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Most of the commenters piling on Matt are making excellent and good points but that doesn't mean that Matt's gut reaction is totally meritless. Where I believe it may come from is that Dems in the Bush era Congress have been so lousy in the past in picking the issues to fight for and particularly in the framing of them, too often playing the whole game in a manner in which the GOP counter-argument that they are being "obstructionist" stick easily.


With judges, mho, from watching confirmation hearings from way back when, the key is for the opposition to plan and select only a few issues that are decided of utmost importance to the party identity and to hammer away on those. And just as important is to let all Senators go their own way on any other issues, and to let them show their own voice, to look independent and fair and "statesman-like." The latter is so that the obstructionist argument doesn't stick. There has to be a balance between the two, and the way to do it is to challenge en bloc on only a few issues. No conicidence that this makes for good media message/talking points in creating the identity for the party. You can't make it look like you're doing it just because the guy is a conservative, and plan to object to his whole being. The result of that is that the individual Senators involved lose their integrity, and that's something important to get across, too: they shouldn't look like political hacks willing to do everything "the leader" says in judicial confirmation processes. If the appearance is that you formed a political bloc to attack on a certain issue that's of importance to each Senator involved, that's ok. If it looks like cynical obstructionism at all costs, it's not.


An important BTW: Olbermann is reporting in the intro of his program right now, first thing, that "Republicans may try to pick a fight with Democrats over Alito" to detract from the DeLay scandals getting more attention.

avatar Just what we need, another swishy Democrat, this one named Matt.
Taylor Marsh
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Why, why, why do we always buy their frame?  What's wrong with being obstructionist if what you are trying to obstruct is a threat to the country?  They want to distract from DeLay, NSA, etc.  Well, tie the issues together.  We want to obstruct plutocratic corruption and oligarchic abuse of power.  If we don't obstruct who will?  Frame the issue on core principles, liberty, equality, privacy, opportunity and the threat that the right wing very much does pose to all of them.  Damn right, we want to obstruct!

flexing your muscles strengthens, not weakens them.

Excellent sound-bite talking point.  This should be in front of everyone's eyes.  Especially the eyes of those who fear the smears of the Republican Noise Machine and let that fear cow them. Even when we lose, our message gets across to a certain degree, and we gain a certain respect because of the fight.

 

Democrats are not going to win until they can provide a reason they should win and they have to use every opportunity they have to sell, sell, sell, and explain, explain, explain, why it matters.

I'm not going to say you're wrong here. I will just mention the quote I've heard a number of times (and enlightens why I often fail at persuasion):  "When you explain, you lose." I suspect that it's not the explaining itself, but rather when you're explaining.  There may be times when explanation is appropriate, and there may be times when your audience is not ready to hear an explanation.

Yes, definitely, sell, sell, and sell.

I suspect that "explaining" is necessary to set up the talking points and the "frames" that in the long run can be used to sell. 

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If the Democrats don't fillibuster Alito it will be par for the course. Slowly but surely, for the last 30 years the Democratic Party has been sacrificing one principle after another on the altar of expediency. The party stopped caring about the working American about 15 years ago, and now Matthew Yglesias figures it's time to wave the white flag on abortion.

Okay, well then what's left? 

avatar What happened to this thread?  This afternoon there were 47 comments, maybe even 54 if I recall, including #46 from me.  Now there are 40, 41, mine is gone and so are several others. 

Did the TPM staff edit/delete some posts, and if so, why?  None of the posts were overly rude or intemperate, although most all of them were of the same mind, Alito is bad, the Democrats need to fight this nomination for all sorts of reasons, and Matt is wrong on this issue.

If the posts were deleted because somebody didn't like what they were saying, well, that's fine, it's your blog.  But it will be very disappointing, to say the least, and I'll let market forces steer to me to other sites.

I'd like to find out what happened here though before I do that.

Matt?
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If not now, then when?


If Stevens dies during Bush's tenure, and he nominates Janice Rogers Brown?


If the Dems don't mount a campaign now, then they cede the right to do so in the future.

avatar I didn't notice any posts being deleted.

However, I just read Matt's post again, and the way he groups together "losing elections" with "staging filibusters" frightens me.  Seriously.  It's like watching an episode of "Smallville," but replacing Superman with Mickey Kaus.
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"We have to understand that one day there will again be a democrat in the white house..."

These things don't happen automatically.  The past 25 years has seen a wholesale retreat by the Democrats on pretty much every front.  To achieve a position of power again, the Democrats will have to actually try.  

Also, this is backwards:

 Another thing to note.....if Scalito gets in there (and he will).....and if Roe falls (and it will)....then we've got an election issue that has not worked for us in years now possibly working to our favor.

 

The goal is not to have bad shit happen so Democrats can win elections.   The goal is to win elections so bad shit doesn't happen.  I'd prefer not to be the party of fiddling while Rome burns.

 

 

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Lets not kid ourselves, every Democrat ought to be opposed to this nomination. The question is simply a matter of tactics. Each member of the confirmation commitee is going to drill this guy with tough questions. Regardless of his answers, to use or not use the fillibuster, that is the question.

What I'm curious is what makes the fillibuster a bad thing? I'm young, only 26, and can't remember the last time it was used. Is it simply for fear of being called obstructionists? But whats wrong with obstructionism when the cause is just?

Its my opinion that the majority of Americans ought to agree with this guy should not be on the bench. If they don't, we're simply not spelling it out good enough or they're incapable of being reached.

 

avatar Presidents get to pick judges?  That's odd - I recall a time, way back in the 1990's, where the GOP Senate had no problem refusing to confirm.  In fact, refusing to hold hearings.

The only reason that Bush should get to choose Alito is if the GOP triumphs in this particular battle.  And even if they do, it can be used in the fall elections to persuade some American voters that the Democratic Party stands for something other than submission to the GOP.
avatar "The goal is not to have bad shit happen so Democrats can win elections.   The goal is to win elections so bad shit doesn't happen.  I'd prefer not to be the party of fiddling while Rome burns."

And by now, nobody should be able to propose any version of 'the worse things get, the better', without a strong feeling of doubt.  The GOP has proven itself far too capable of profiting from the misfortunes of others. 
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Strong words on this thread.  I agree with Matt.  It's because I see no way for the Dems to down Alito.  (Barring new bad info.)  Not one Repub will back off and the nuclear  will sail through. 

And the public?  You know very few care about the Supreme or any judge issue, it's too subtle.   All that comes through is that the Dems (who lost the election) are trying to stop Bush from doing his job; and Bush and his Repub allies are strong enough to brush them off.

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