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The Republican Plan for 06 will be for the President to set an agenda in January that will position the Party to save both houses of Congress in the fall. The entire year will be dedicated to the election, not to governing. No surprise there in this era of continual electioneering. The Democrats need to fight this fire with fire, coming out of the box with an election strategy of their own.
The wild cards are in any case many. Notwithstanding Rove's repeated successes at defining elections the way he wants them defined, usually on issues important to his base's turn-out (I think of the President citing the code word of the Dred Scott decision in one of his debates with Kerry so as to rile up the anti-choice crowd while mystifying the mainstream), at least the following major topics will probably generate news of an unpredictable nature: (a)the Abramoff/Delay corruption scandals, (b) the Libby trial and possible further indictments, (c) the inevitable failure of pacification in Iraq and the likely misuse of American troops by the sadly wrongheaded Defense Department, (d) the continuing increase of risk factors to the economy as long as the twin (trade/fiscal) deficits swell, (e) the separation of America into groups of have-much and have-little, exacerbated by the sadly wrongheaded Bush tax and spend policies, (f) the rise of China (take my new book next fall, please),(g) the gathering support for Net Dems running in loosely but usefully linked races, (h) more revelations concerning misuse of Presidential Power, (i) still more evidence about global warming's reality (yes, this accretes and politically will soon matter), (j) the Administration's competence problem, (k) the unavoidable venality of one-party government, (l) the alarming decisions that should be expected from the post-O'Connor Supreme Court.















And the Democrats' 2006 Campaign Motto?
Not as Bad as Those Other Guys?
December 31, 2005 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Watch out for Prince Karl Machievelli to try to get George to do something drastic like bombing Iran to attempt to re-emphasize Bush's status as a "wartime" President.
December 31, 2005 11:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rove exclusively uses the Attack With A Big Lie approach, and I doubt it will work in the current environment of a media that is sort of trying to do its job for the first time in several years, and a somewhat cynical public. I think the Republicans will be where the Democrats have been for the past 15 years: campaigning locally, without some grand plan or theme. There will be no grand initiatives that can backfire, like the Clinton healthcare plan did, just a cautious party playing defense to hold on during a rough patch.
December 31, 2005 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
The decision for Republicans is one of total pragmatism. By any means possible they must retain control of government to avoid an all out confrontation against Republican policies and misdeeds of the last decade or so. They know all too well the degree of exposure for the party is huge. It is a virtual certainty they will pursue any and all actions, legal or otherwise, that will assure retention of control. Their backs are against the wall. Dems must attack all the failed policies, draw attention to the political shenanigans and expose the lie of 'compassionate conservatism'.
thepeoplechoose
December 31, 2005 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is important is that centrist Democrats take their fingers out of the wind and stop looking for issues they assume will appease the redneck masses. Every time a Democratic leader takes a stand based on politics rather than principle, it sets back our cause. (See Hillary Clinton and flag burning). If the country perceives Democrats as cynically calculating and typically corrupt, Bush's sins go unpunished.
The Dems don't have to settle on one overarching theme. The Republicans have ceded the field on every important issue. Reed Hundt's admirable list of Republican problems can be easily flipped to provide Democratic solutions: (a) Corruption. It ain't us, it's mostly them, and where it is us, we must be willing to prosecute and condemn our own. (b) Libby. We take seriously the outing of our intelligence agents. (c) Iraq. This is the toughest, but it's less tough for us than for Bush. He owns it. We stand with the great majority of the country who believe the war was a colossal mistake, and we'll do whatever we can to minimize further damage to America primarily, while minimizing further damage to Iraqis and the Mideast when possible. (d) Swelling trade deficits. Start with ending the war and taking huge tax breaks back from the richest. (e) Enriching the richest, impoverishing the rest of us. Duh... we're against it. Time to stand and be counted. After years of service, the anti-tax dog won't hunt for the Republicans anymore, they've abused the poor thing.
I won't go on, but you can find an opportunity in each of these Hundt's points. It's a great list, though it should have added (m) healthcare. Americans are scared silly about this and it's time for Dems to act.
December 31, 2005 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Der Spiegel has an interesting article this week indicating that is what the recent trips by Condi, Rumsfeld and Cheney were all about. It is a complex thing -- all the side deals on offer if the visited countries get on board. It would be interesting is any reporters could take their information and seek to confirm or disconfirm and publish for an American Audience. Afterall, it is the next version of Premptive War Policy and perhaps we ought to know about it all.
At the very least -- whether one supports the idea or opposes, parhaps it should be debated by Congress??? Don't you think that might be what they are there for? In fact, without committing either way on such a plan -- perhaps that kind of pressure could be brought locally on Congress persons. (Do you see your office as one that should support policy debate???)
Der Spiegel makes much of invormation that Condi Cheney and Rumsfeld are pushing intelligence information that his Iranian Leadership all tied up with al-Qaeda. That's never made a whole lot of sense to me given the sunni-shite splits and all as we see it working out in Iraq -- but according to Der Speigel, that is what is being claimed. They aslo claim that one of the side-deals would allow Turkey to use the situation to take out the PKK which is half of the Kurd political structure. (A little something for everyone.) At any rate I think it time for Question asking and some informed debate. It would be so very Rovian and Bushisk to have a nice little war this spring without much consultation.
December 31, 2005 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
2006 is a congressional election, not a national presidential one. So, I believe conventional wisdom is that the elections will be won or lost on local issues. If that is true, I doubt that a negative campaign against Republicans in general will be effective. Most people think Congressmen are all corrupt, except for their own representative, who is really great.
I'm still thinking that a unifying campaign theme, national health care for example, would do the most good for Democrats. But, I also think that the Iraq occupation will dominate the election, and unless Democrats have a unified plan to propose, people will go for Republicans, thinking that Democrats have no ideas, just criticisms.
I would really, really like to see the DNC identify congressional races where we have even a small chance to win if the candidate is adequately funded, and make sure that is the case. Last election saw many winnable races lost due to little or no financial help to the Democratic candidate. That must not happen again.
December 31, 2005 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
The administration is placing great hope on the allegedly wonderful economy (ref stenographer David Broder on Washington Week Friday). But I wonder if they know that the present inverted yield curve on government bonds always presages a recession. They could be sorely disappointed if they think the economy is going to bail them out.
December 31, 2005 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no doubt that if the chimp thinks that bombing Iran would help him politically he would do it. But, I have a suggestion. Let's see if we can turn their focus to trying to stay out of jail. Maybe they would be too busy to bomb Syria/Iran/Canada/Mexico/Korea. Just a thought. Impeach the chimp.
December 31, 2005 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
RH has put together a well thought-out and plausible “year in preview” list. It may be high hopes, but I think there will also be fallout over executive over-reaching from the NSA spying scandal. The administration has tried to play defense with offense by going after the leakers, but it may backfire on them. This is purely a whistlerblower’s case (unlike Plame) and the question of the constitutionality of the program has to be addressed if the leakers are prosecuted.
Of course, any probe will be drawn out past the election but that will keep it in the news. Also, since Gonzales is directly involved the matter should be handed over to a special prosecutor who would likely take a broader look at the circumstances of the leak. If the whistleblowers defense is asserted there wouldn’t there need to be an investigation into the legality of the administration’s whole WOT executive privilege claims?
December 31, 2005 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, but King George the Last doesn't need Congress since he rules by Divine Right of Wartime (self-proclaimed) Kings. This guy with his finger on the button is real scary. Impeachment, conviction, and trial at the International Court of the Hague is what needs to be done. I'm sure King George will bomb Iran, arrest us all, and do whatever this little tin-horn moron dictator wannabe has to do to prevent his impeachment, but let's go for it anyway, It's what we owe our kids and grandkids!
December 31, 2005 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Happy New Year.
December 31, 2005 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope that this thread isn't intended to convince any uncommitted voters to vote Democrat. Being Canadian, I'm not terribly interested in congressional elections, but I thought I'd mention that your decision to use the phrase "anti-choice" results in a lot of people tuning you out as noise. People do the same with people who label the pro-choice crowd "pro-abortion".
I suppose that's fine if all you want to do is appeal to your base, but if you want to reach out you might try less aggressive phrasing.
December 31, 2005 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Health care is a winner, and its time to push it.
Also I am extremely tired of comments like Ellens.
Our differences with republicans are obvious on crucial matters and many of the issues are in flux.
Whenever a Republican says Dems have no position on the Iraq war, the proper response is" no, you guys have no position on the Iraq war and you are the ones who run the country and started the war."
Dems have enough on their plate just trying to clean up republican messes.
December 31, 2005 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
The really sad thing about trying to defend the Democratic party is quit trying
When those senators who voted to give the president authority to do whatever, they were led, fearful of the repercussions of another attack.
They lacked the backbone to stand up and listen to conscience
let those Democrats stand or fall on their spinelessness.
But for Republicans to say that Democrats didn't have a better plan for Social issues are not truthful and they'll run for cover when the issue is front and center.
Prescription bill is a farce, Social security reform a scam, Tax cuts damaging to the real needs of average Americans.
Use the Republican religious base against themselves "WHATEVER YOU DID TO THE LEAST OF THESE MY BROTHERS YOU DID TO ME " KATRINA KATRINA KATRINA
Evidently words are cheap, there is no such thing in Georges mind "compassionate conservative" kind of like "friends like you who needs enemies"
Create the real fear confronting American workers no pensions and a government trying to change Social Security in ways detrimental to the needs
December 31, 2005 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
But watch for Eliot Spitzer to use one word that Democrats across America will latch onto: accountability.
He'll come from the perspective of saying that as state attorney general he fought not for partisan ends, but because he felt that federal authorities did not believe in accountability.
And the Iraq war vets running, the Democrat incumbents, and even the long-shot candidates and Howard Dean will likely find this strategy too good to pass up.
What are the Republicans afraid of...accountability?
December 31, 2005 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to ask that those who insist the Dems have a plan tell me just what is the present plan.
If a plan means that the American people must stand sheepishly by and watch our country stolen from us right before our eyes, witness our Constitution burned at the fire of corporate greed, have our sons and daughters sacrificed in an ill fated foreign war, see the middle class hammered into economic ruin and watch the poor struggle for their very survival - if that can be called a plan then fighting against it is the plan. The Bush plan to investigate who ratted him out for breaking our laws isn't a plan. It's an outrage. The Republican plan is to use government to lie, cheat and steal as much as they can for as long as they can.
I don't need a new plan as bad as I need this one gone.
thepeoplechoose
December 31, 2005 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think we can expect the Fed to start lowering interest rates in the Spring in order to influence the election by sweetening the economy for the Fall.
The Fed has been a Republican election tool since Alan Greenspan took over, and his replacement has the pedigree to follow in the master's footsetps.
December 31, 2005 11:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Several months ago I read that Reid and Pelosi intended to bring out a document resembling the 1994 Gingrich Contract on America. I have heard nothing since, but the fact is that should be a closely guarded secret until it is unwrapped.
I really am waiting for the unwrapping.
Take such a program for nationalizing the election and combine it with Reed's above list and I think you will see some fireworks this Summer adn Fall.
December 31, 2005 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that, as stated earlier in this thread, the congressional elections will be decided, as they most always have been, based on local issues and local tastes for certain incumbents. I don't see big changes on the horizon, though Democrats will find and will hopefully benefit from, a few opportunities here and there.
As for Bush setting a national election agenda -- he's a bit sunk now, I think. Iraq is, and will be, to say the least, "now a problem." It's one he can't ignore and it will continue to detract from his ability to focus on other issues.
He already lost on Social Security. The Republicans will likely try to fight that battle again someday, but Bush can't.
He could push for tax reform, and pundits have been constantly hinting that he will. But, that will likely fail the same way Social Security did. If Bush were running an economy with a surplus, like the one he inherited, he'd be able to rewrite the tax code. But, while we're running deficits, it will be impossible.
And, again, as has been said earlier in this thread, Bush has the whole NSA spying problem to deal with now. He actually managed to make the Patriot Act look like a tame threat to civil liberties, given what he did outside that law.
He's not dead but, as an agenda setter, and despite the Presidential Bully Pulpit, he's managed to lose the ability to really set the national agenda. I bet he didn't even think it was possible to spend so much political capital in one freaking year.
January 1, 2006 2:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
To R.H.'s (a) to (l) list I'd add (m): Ambassador Joe Wilson's much anticipated civil suit on as yet unknown WHIGs. Can you picture Bubble Boy and the stand sans earphone or hovvering handlers? Cheney and Rove could get subpoenas too. What an exciting prospect 2006 is, and only 10 short months till the mid terms.
January 1, 2006 4:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unless a colossal misstep by the right, its inertia will be difficult to alter. RH's list is good and should be discussed, but nothing in it appears to be the colossal misstep needed. The Dems have a huge identity problem and will continue to have it until spectacular new leaders gain traction in the national consciousness.Out with Dean, Kennedy, Pelosi, Boxer, Reid and in with Obama, Warner, Bayh, Ford, Jr., and Feingold. Also, less emotion and more pragmatism. Less Kos and more Marshall.
Best issue is health care: not necessarily national health care, but a substantive debate with possible solutions which resonate with the right. Co-opt the right by using some of their ideas on health care. Even if the right may try to take credit for it, most Americans will understand who put forth the good ideas. Next, tax reform. Done properly, the middle and lower classes could benefit and tax breaks for the rich may become a non issue . Opposing the war has hurt Dems. Lower volume is needed.
January 1, 2006 6:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
A Pew Center poll done for the CFR in November showed 84% of the public believed "Protect American Jobs" should be the top policy priority ("Fight Terrorism" drew a ststiscally even 86%).
You won't hear this from the academic and media leaders and the Washington brains trust - the issue wasn't even on their radar. But they don't have many votes so who cares what they think.
January 1, 2006 6:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Democratic armchair strategists understood now that this type of laundry list, heavily dependent on the media, was not the way to go.
Fary better, in my view, to develop a broad strategic vision that the people can wrap their heads around, and go from there ...
January 1, 2006 6:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I stipulate all that you say, but have to say that even all of that isn't a plan for Democrats, it's a way to motivate the base. But, what are we motivating them to fight FOR?
John Meecham said on Meet the Press this morning that the American people want two things: security and competence in government. They see that the Bushies at least seem to care about security, but don't think the Democratic Party does--at least as much. They see the incompetence of the administration's cronies and the greed of the whole bunch, but it's the security part that is keeping them from totally rejecting the GOP's failed agenda, mainly because they assume that Dems would be just as corrupt. (wonder why that is? What have we done to convince them otherwise?)
What have we got to offer on security? And competence, aside from a lot of whinging? Where's the plan, man?
January 1, 2006 6:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good points, but as I mentioned elsewhere, no where in your list of tactical responses is one that is key to a lot of voters: how would we handle the very real threat of Islamic fundamentalism? Yes, it is true that we helped create organizations like Al Quaida, and yes, they mobilize against the kind of forces of American power that are most identified with the GOP's base, but what would we offer were voters to return Democrats to power? How can we offer a program to protect America from the terrorist's tactics, while also going after and addressing terrorism's underlying causes? Or, are we still proposing a kind of return to isolationism, hoping that everything will turn out all right? What is our response to terrorism going to be, in contrast to the kind of fear-based overreaction we have now? This is an important missing link, I think, in the appeal we have to make to the people.
I think Clinton had figured a lot of this out, actually, and combined a plan of economic growth and opportunity domestically, with a vision of international alliances that would actually provide more security. What about a return to that?January 1, 2006 7:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
To succeed at "vote the bastards out" Dems will need to focus on a couple of high impact missteps or threats that the Reps represent. Social security is a BIG one. Another one that is receiving little mainstream attention is the push to eliminate mortgage interest deductions which will devastate the middle class on taxes. The public CARES deeply about these issues and yet Dems continually let the Reps drag them into the "cultural wars" debate, completely obfuscating the more relevant governance issues.
The Dems need a positive clear and consistent culture message that makes the Reps look like single gaggle of blowhard fundamentalist hypocrites every time they open their mouths on religion, sex or reproductive rights. Dems need to frame the message that the Reps are attacking individual freedom by proposing more government interference and planning to pay for it by eliminating mortgage tax deductions and social security.
The reason that the culture war issues have been working so well is because mainstream undecided voters are willing to put up with what they see as minimal intrusions on the civil liberties of minorities, gays, illegal aliens or accused criminals because it doesn't affect them personally. By sending the Dems into full-blown defense of these liberties one group at a time, the Reps successfully frame Democrats primarily as defenders of the disaffected and reduce their legitimacy on other mainstream issues. If the Dems cannot find a message that can defeat this strategy, it will continue to work.
January 1, 2006 8:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Accountablility + Multilateralism = Progress Towards Peace and Security
The only way to effectively fix Iraq, the Middle East, and properly find and kill Al Qaida operatives is through the international community led by the UN, the Arab League, NATO, Russia, and a legitimate coalition with a legitimate common goal > Peace and Security.
The only way we will ever see that coalition form is if we demonstrate to the world community that U.S. citizens reject torture and hegemony. That means we must impeach Bush and his Administration, convict them of their crimes, and imprison them to account for their criminal negligence, arrogance, and moral depravity.
Then we will see progress.
Accountability + Multilateralism = Progress Towards Peace and Security.
That's the strategy that'll work and the Administration's violation of FISA should be the straw to break their back and get things started. If the Democrats show the courage necessary to lead this country out of its crisis, they cannot fail. They need to show the courage to take a bold and distinct stance against our problems and offer the American people a clear choice.
Accountability + Multilateralism = Progress Towards Peace and Stability
That's the clear and distinct choice Democrats need to offer.
January 1, 2006 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, some of us happen to believe that the "pro-life" conceit which all too often goes along with pro-war, pro-death penalty, and pro-poverty voting doesn't warrant any unearned respect. Unfortunately, we have one party that is genuinely aggressive in almost anyway you measure aggression and one party that believes fighting them is merely a matter of finding the correct phrasing.
January 1, 2006 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
And was it Hitler or Mussolini who made the trains run on time? Giving people what they want in the next 1 minute just might not be enough to insure they have a representative democracy for the next 100 years or more. As to Meacham, was there ever a more pompous self-loving pundit alive? How would he have a clue what anybody wants anywhere on the planet outside the beltway?
What have we done to convince them otherwise?
Pardon my borrowing from a line in Syriana but how do you convince a nation that has 5% of the world's population and spends 50% of the world's military budget that it is secure? How much more would it take?
Here's what I'd tell Americans on security - there is no way your government can keep you 100% safe and there is no way your government intends to keep you 100% safe, see New Orleans for reference. If you want security, you better start in your home, in your own precinct and at your own city council because the things that are going to kill you are where you live.
January 1, 2006 9:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Dick has it right when he appeals for accountability. That is something foreign to people inside the beltway. Whether right or left, politicians have no interest in accountability because taxes can be raised, campaigns can be spun, or deals cut for "golden parachutes" if one is voted out of office.
Multi-culturalism won't work because much of the rest of the world isn't threatened by islamo-fascism. Much of the rest of the world doesn't have the resources to contribute to a crusade waged by the US.
Mr. Dick exhibits the emotional partisanship the Dems need to place on vacation while the more reasoned and pragmatic debaters establish gravitas for the party.
January 1, 2006 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about redefining security more broadly, and not let the Right limit discussion to scary guys with exploding belts and nukes in suitcases, for a change?
(I believe there are scary guys with exploding belts and hopes for getting nukes into DC and New York, by the way. We have to deal with that, too.)
But how about showing how being a debtor nation harms security? How about showing how much more secure we'd be if we had an alternative energy policy and a plan to wean ourselves from such a large amount of foreign oil?
How about defining security as being a future where our children and grandchildren don't have to work at MacDonalds and live in trailerparks because all of the high-paying jobs in manufacturing are gone, probably forever?
How about realizing that security also comes from a public education system that works, is affordable (and not, like it is now, costing 3 times more per pupil now than it did 30 years ago), and is focused on the needs our graduates will face in 10 or 15 years, rather than just being the captive of a conservative educationist bureaucracy that dismisses parental imput and fights reform?
How about saying that we're not more secure by letting the spooks and geeks at NSA listen into all of our phone calls, recalling as one writer did recently that that's not going to work any better than did Herod killing all the babies in Bethlehem 2000 years ago. It's the same mindset, the thick-headed brutes who always seem to gravitate to 'security' work.
Come to think of is, how about also talking about how much more secure we'd be if we didn't p*ss off all of our friends around the world, and take away reasons for supporting us, for a change? Perhaps if we were to have a policy that really supported just economic policy and equal opportunity abroad, while we focused on innovating our way out of our energy and debt traps, we might find more support.
And finally, how about we face the fact that none of the above can be accomplished by one party alone (we've seen how incompetent one-party rule is), and we should start by rejecting the hyper-partisanship as what's keeping us from having discussions with conservatives and moderates and everyone who believes we're in this together. And to deal with that, how about election finance reform.
How many laws do we have to change, how many members of commerce do we have to fire, and how many lobbiests do we have to indict and jail to make this happen?
Would this mean that the fantasy Democratic Party that would do all of the above would jetison some unworkable aliances with traditional members of the old New Deal coalition? You bet. Is that going to happen? Probably not. But we ought to have the conversation. I'm sick of some things being so frickin' taboo.
But if Democrats were to actually do half of the above, I'd hazzard a guess that we might actually do some good for a change, and that the voter would respond.
January 1, 2006 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Edit: I meant "members of Congress", not members of commerce, obviously. :-)
January 1, 2006 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Am I partisan? You bet! But I no longer know if I've got a party to represent me. Anybody leading a left of center party can have my vote. Otherwise, I'm just part of that New Deal coalition you wanted to lose.
January 1, 2006 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
- There are the Reps missteps, right?
- There are scandals, right?
- There are broken promises, right?
- There are broken laws, right?
- There are impeachable offences, right?
- There are issues, right?
- There are the lies, right?
Errrrrrrrrrr! Wrong! None of the above helped the Reps gain office, so why do we think it will help the Dems?The difference between the Dems and the Reps is simple. The Reps have a lock on power. How did they get it? They carefully polled the people and then they lied.
- They lied about taxes.
- They lied about Nations Security.
- They lied about Social Security.
- They lied about Medicare and Medicaid.
- They lied about the economy.
- They lied about health care.
- They lied about their supposed Christian values.
- They lied about the opposition candidates.
- They lied about their relationships to big business.
- They lied about their personal finances.
The list is endless and that was just what they lied about BEFORE they got in office…There are those that call Carl Rove "The Architect" While we may loathe all that he stands for, there is one thing that cannot be argued: the results. The Dems are out and the Reps are in. Perhaps it’s time to do a more pragmatic examination of the "plan" that worked instead of simply whining that they lied.
Most of us agree that the egregious abuses of this congress and administration and must stop. It is no exaggeration to say that our democracy and our liberties are in grave jeopardy! Fortunately we do not have to lie to succeed in implementing the strategy that the Reps used. But we should be careful to understand the tactics of these traitors and not to underestimate the depths to which they will stoop to achieve their ends. It has been said that their backs are against the wall and I agree. They are dangerous. But we should also remember that the Dems have consistently underestimated the need of the American people to hear what they WANT to hear.
The strategy to win is simple:
- Find out what they want to hear and then tell that to them.
- Paint the Reps as the enemy and traitors that they are. The must be vilified and de-humanized.
This should not be too hard to do, considering the ammunition, the tactics and the strategy that they have given us. One thing we can agree on is this: We need to win the offices before we can effect change. Let's agree to win.January 1, 2006 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Security was shot to hell on Bushes watch not on the watch of a Dem.
And the reason is that the goal was/is to undermine our Constitution and democracy. OBL figured out that the history and attitude of those in the WH holding the reins would be all too willing participants in running rough shod over individual liberty. Security and freedom has been compromised by a far greater measure than most people realize and it is our own doing. The way to defeat terrorism is by strong support for ideologically opposed ideas being in the forefront of all our actions. The actions taken by the Bush administration serve to reduce individual rights and liberty. Just the opposite of what we seek. This is an ideological war and all the people that have been killed stand as the ultimate infringement to liberty.
thepeoplechoose
January 1, 2006 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
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January 1, 2006 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
This last post is another example of the emotional immaturity the Dems need to avoid. To make such pronouncements is counter-productive and certainly deflects debate. This site is too important for all of us to be "hung up" on conspiratorial fantasies and negative rhetoric.
January 1, 2006 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hoppy wrote: "Most people think Congressmen are all corrupt, except for their own representative, who is really great."
Mine is Virgil Goode, and he has taken money from deLay and Mitch Wade. We need to get rid of him this fall.
January 1, 2006 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with a lot of what Tal says, but the problem with the collective identitiy of people who want Bush out of office is -the whole idea that Democrats have no ideas is a Republican talking point in itself. Name some of the well thought out ideas that make up that coherent Republican platform Chris Matthew's and Tim Russert are constantly telling us exists. I really can't think of one. Smaller government? Security? Paid off media, maybe. Name some for me.
January 1, 2006 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Democrats need to fight this fire with fire, coming out of the box with an election strategy of their own.
Agree completely Reed. I think Democrats can win in 2006 by holding themselves out as the party helping citizens navigate Medicare. Tip of the cap to The Wall Street Journal, which included navigating Medicare in “How to Fix Your Life in 2006” last Thursday. Democrats can champion citizens' efforts to make sense of the tangled new Medicare system, and, by extension, to bring some added security to their health care planning. This, by further extension, puts Democrats in position to talk with citizens about such crucial concerns as health and retirement security. Add a serious proposal for withdrawal from Iraq, and Democrats have three issues that really matter.
January 1, 2006 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
The democrats always talk about the big tent, how inclusive they are, morally it’s good to be tolerant. But the larger turnout for Bush and company was the Evangelical movement.
Ignore that at your peril. Gay rights is not an issue they’d fight for, liberals do that, welfare checks to unproductive citizens, liberals do that to.
We need to address the issues of the larger voting block, the Republican party tapped this block and won.
It doesn’t mean that the Republicans are saints, calling them liars and crooks, doesn’t work
To the evangelical the ends justify the means if it promotes their interests.
The Republican party recognized the level of commitment by this group, they felt their pain. Liberal government is the enemy, it attacks the values of these people,
The Republicans listened to them, so a few are corrupt but all they need to do is cry on TV and say they repent and these Evangelicals are ready to forgive and forget . If you want to gain their respect, respect them.
The way to turn the evangelicals towards the side of Democrats is to point out the truth, point out what there great leader Jesus said about Wolves in sheep’s clothing, honest pay for honest work, Avoiding any appearance of compromising with moral values. The Democrats better learn to speak their language, or you will not win this voting block
The Evangelicals think that most liberals are atheist and have left the “WAY”
Point out how Bush who claimed to be compassionate, had a form of godly devotion but proved himself false when the poor folks hit by Katrina were left hungry and thirsty.
Find the verse, speak their language, so they hear their masters voice in your message, that exposes this hypocrisy, maybe they’ll stay home and we reduce their voting numbers
Then you can think about winning
January 1, 2006 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
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January 2, 2006 7:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
I would agree with your suggestions but I think we also need a cool head who will tell Americans the truth. The fight against Islamic fundamentalism will like the Cold War takes decades. We will lose some battles and we must have the courage to accept some losses but as a practical matter most of us are not at risk. We are fighting for the rule of law and the rules of civilization. If we surrender these in the fight, our example will be followed throughout the world and the world will return to the law of might makes right, the law of the jungle, and we lose not simply a war against jihadis but the war for civilization itself.
January 2, 2006 8:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
SO LONG AS IT'S THE DEMOCRATS THAT ARE THE ONE PARTY! We need to STOP making this argument because it may come back to bite us in the @$$ one of these days......I for one do not like the proposition of a democrat in the white house with a bunch of republicans in the congress launching incessant investigations. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM OF ONE PARTY GOVERNMENT......IT'S A PROBLEM OF THE REPUBLICANS BEING THE ONE PARTY. WE NEED TO BE MAKING THE CASE THAT REPUBLICANS ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED WITH ANY GOVERNMENT AND DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE THE PARTY IN CONTROL OF EVERYTHING.
January 2, 2006 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink