Gifted Children Left Behind?

A Washington Post op-ed complaints that with No Child Left Behind forcing schools to focus more attention on their worst-performing students, the "gifted" are being left out of the picture. Paul Glastris says "Progressive-minded folks ought to be shouting from the rooftops about this problem" while also conceding that "there are morally compelling reasons to focus on low-performing students." Andrew Rotherham thinks there's a "false choice" at the core of the op-ed's argument, but then seems to lean heavily on Paul's to-be-sure point and says that, really, we should care more about low-performing students and the glaring inequities in the current system.

I agree with that, but I also think the choice isn't necessarily all that false. The rhetoric of No Child Left Behind is, I think, an appealing one. The idea is that, well, no child should be left behind. It's an essentially egalitarian aspiration -- the school system should try to do well for the hardest to teach kids, included ones coming from difficult backgrounds and ones who simply for whatever reason have a hard time with school. The idea of "gifted" programs is basically the reverse vision -- that the school system should focus on the easiest cases and push them to the highest level of achievement possible.

There's not a stark either/or choice between the hard cases and the easy cases, but at some level you do need to make a decision about priorities. Insofar as we're serious about educational equality, that will to some extent involve shortchanging the best and the brightest. Insofar as we're serious about taking the most talented as far as they can go, that will involve shortchanging equity. The former strikes me as more desirable than the latter, especially for people who want to think of themselves as being on the left.


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Insofar as we're serious about educational equality, that will to some extent involve shortchanging the best and the brightest.


This is true only insofar as we remain unserious about how we're shortchanging education in general.  


Yes, if we have a prejudged amount that we will spend on education (an amount that the GOP will contine to try cutting over time), and are then forced to choose whether to spend that paltry sum on the hard cases or the easy ones, we will underschool some people, if not all of them.  If, instead, we established our society's educational goals and then figured out the funding, we would we balancing all children's educational needs against all other needs.

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Not only is focusing on the hard cases more equitable, it may well be a better bang-for-the-buck.  The gifted kids are generally going to turn out okay regardless, while the hard cases likely won't (otherwise they wouldn't be hard cases).  By focussing resources on the hard cases we maximize the number of okay-outcome kids.

avatar If progress were measured by how much a student learned during the current school year rather than whether a student was at "grade level", the system would work better. We already have the previous year's scores for students, simply compare this years score to last years score and see how much learning took place. If a kid moves from 1st grade reading level to 3d grade reading level, should we penalize a teacher for not getting the student to 4th grade level? If another student starts and finishes the year at 4th grade level, does the fact that the student happens to be in the 4th grade mean their teacher did a great job?

Switching to a value added system would also keep teachers from being penalized for teaching in low-performing school systems. It would keep teachers from being unfairly rewarded for teaching in schools with above-average students. And it would keep the focus directly on student learning.

Personally I think the whole notion of "grade level" is outdated, its factory style managment. I'd like to see masters level teachers supervising 4-6 assistants (AA-BA) in classrooms of 50-60 students at a variety of levels. Skills and knowledge mastery could be measured via regular low-stakes testing on secure computers the way the GREs are administered. Classrooms would be bigger with spaces designed to have multiple configurations depending on activity. But that's another story.
avatar The gifted kids aren't necessarily the easiest to teach.  They get pretty bored if they're forced to sit in class listening to stuff they already know and can cause trouble if their needs aren't addressed as well.  The idea of mainstreaming was meant to address that, where the gifted kids help teach the ones who have trouble learning.
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You are sadly mistaken if you think the gifted children will "do okay" are not given coursework comensurate with their intellectual level. As the bored kid in the back of the classroom, I can tell you that the temptation to drop out mentally is strong -- if a school is not reaching a student, whether "at risk" or "gifted" he or she will tune out.

I firmly believe the academic shortchanging in the lower grades left me ill prepared to tackle AP coursework in high school and then behind others of my intellectual level at college. As a result I ended up escewing a career in the sciences/engineering as my father and grandfather had -- my degree in history was the result of many a school day spent sneakily reading ahead in the history and literature texts while bored to tears as the teacher was barely beyond chapter 2 by Christmas. History can be more easily self taught, enginerring -- not so much!

What we should really be upset about is how the GOP has successfully shift the discussion to pitting one group against the other.

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Matthew,
I find most distinctions, especially as related to intelligence, as downright corny and boring. Some of the worst decisions have been rendered by the ones who have been led to believe that they have superiour intelligence., as they are often the ones who have cubicled up the bureacracy/management or patronaged their way to a 'top' position. There are only so many asses that one can lick, before getting nausea. 
As you can see I'm a little hornery today. Well I'll get over it by 1 pm or so. I think this is because I'm bored. 



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History can be more easily self taught, enginerring -- not so much!

That's an important point. And while some families see home-schooling as an alternative for gifted children, unless they have both the background and teaching skills, that approach will be limited to the kind of subjects and disciplines that can basically be self-taught. (I'd like to know how many gifted home-school kids learn in spite of their parents, not because of them.)


An obvious model to examine is the German one, in which broad specialisation comes early, meaning that those demonstrating early aptitude towards science and engineering have a dedicated track. That discriminates against late developers, but no system can be perfect.

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History can be more easily self taught, enginerring -- not so much!  I think engineering can be self taught as well as can all subject matters as being self taught comes largely from great self motivation.  Whatever challenges are encountered while teaching yourself can be overcome in some manner. 

What I think is also important in some manner is the development the brain goes through while young when it is challenged in different ways.  The more attention that is payed to these kids, the better off these kids will be.  Certainly they'll have a better shot at earning a decent living as an adult, but for these kids the thought shouldn't be preparing them to survive in the real world, but to help them reach their potential which for some individuals might be very high.

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<i>The gifted kids are generally going to turn out okay regardless, while the hard cases likely won't (otherwise they wouldn't be hard cases).</i>

The problem with such a supposition is that it assumes that mediocrity and/or proficiency are acceptable outcomes for all students.  The state proficiency exams in my state included questions on material that I had known, quite literally, since kindergarten.  (Real question: What reference book would you consult to find the location of Japan?)

 The objective of the school system should be geared to getting kids towards their potential, not trying to drag them all towards the middle.
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If you want to optimize a system, any system, you have to define what you're optimizing it for. Presumably, the point  of public education in this country is to increase everyone's quality of life, by ensuring that people can make a living, maybe even find somewhat fulfilling jobs, and that there are lot's of folks to take jobs in the economy. If you disagree with me about this, fine, but Matt should at least define his goals.

At least arguably, if we underproduce high performers by short-changing them on the education (including guidance counselling, etc.), then we are diminishing everybody's quality  of life because these folks aren't going to go out there and do the wonderful things that create jobs by starting businesses, etc.

I'm NOT saying this trumps education for students who lag academically, just that you have to balance the two. Yglesias ignores it altogether. Annoying. 

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Re: Classrooms would be bigger with spaces designed to have multiple configurations depending on activity. But that's another story.--------
Mmmm! As far as I was concerned, an environment which lacks the space for serendipity and surprise has something less going for it. This is perhaps why mischief/humour  during classroom hours may be more useful than people assume. In my observations, kids that receive support through their mischiefs are the ones most likely to do something innovative, creative, noble, and so on. 
Basically though, I think contrived structures and learning look as if they are contrived. This has been a beef of mine with some education programs, although some are excellent. I guess I think that we can do without much of the elementary school curriculum: I have something else in mind, I suppose. 
 

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It's not so much that a kid knows more-but that he may be able to configure the information in novel ways. That to me constitutes 'genius', if I were to indulge in the use of the term. I think that too many people, characterized as gifted, get stuck in repeating to others that they are so. And people try to exploit them also, which is why they find themselves retreating from society. 

Matthew:It's an essentially egalitarian aspiration -- the school system should try to do well for the hardest to teach kids, included ones coming from difficult backgrounds and ones who simply for whatever reason have a hard time with school. The idea of "gifted" programs is basically the reverse vision -- that the school system should focus on the easiest cases and push them to the highest level of achievement possible.


PTM: Not only is focusing on the hard cases more equitable, it may well be a better bang-for-the-buck.  The gifted kids are generally going to turn out okay regardless, while the hard cases likely won't (otherwise they wouldn't be hard cases).


Matthew: Insofar as we're serious about educational equality, that will to some extent involve shortchanging the best and the brightest. Insofar as we're serious about taking the most talented as far as they can go, that will involve shortchanging equity. The former strikes me as more desirable than the latter, especially for people who want to think of themselves as being on the left.


The basic problem with this line of thought is that (as had been pointed out) that gifted students are NOT easier to teach; they are harder to teach than average children. If a gifted kid is from a less-than-advantageous background, then they have a different set of problems from below-average children, but those problems are inherently just as difficult. Bright kids with relatively well-off backgrounds such as, um, Matthew Yglesias, will do fine because their parents can make up for any educational deficits; this is not true for un-advantaged children, particularly ones who have parents who are average or below-average (this happens, you know).


This is a well-known problem; I have a book first published in 1958 detailing dealing with 'exceptional' children. Exception children are considered to be the very bright, the chronically ill, the mentally retarded (1958, no euphemisms available), the emotionally disturbed and so on. Those are all non-average groups and don't function well in classrooms geared to average and just above average students. Period. Notwithstanding any political correctness focused on self-esteem. Period. Full stop.


The current system was not only designed to produce better factory workers, it was designed to cope with a incoming pool of students that was not universal. Poor or black or non-english speaking or below average students not got into the system. Above average students and the wealthy didn't use the system at all. The system is only designed to deal with average students and a century of enlarging the pool has not changed this one bit. Attempting to deal with 'exceptional' children the same way average children are dealt with is very difficult and has not generally been successful. The system needs to be junked, but 'conservatives' do not want to spend money and 'liberals' are primarily concerned with false equities and teacher unions.


As for 'efficiency', gifted students will produce more bang for a given dollar spent, but such an outcome is inequitable. However, if you are primarily focus on equality, the cheapest (and most effective) way of eliminating inequality would be to lobotomize the gifted, above average, and average, and then gear K-12 classrooms to 'slow learners'. That will net you some serious efficiency, in a Swiftian kind of way.


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['Is the primary purpose of K-12 education or indoctrination?']

avatar "If another student starts and finishes the year at 4th grade level, does the fact that the student happens to be in the 4th grade mean their teacher did a great job?"
Actually what it probably means is that the third grade teacher cheated on the tests.  You are assuming the test scores are accurate but in fact cheating is common whenever the scores are used to evaluate schools or teachers.
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ptm, concentrating on hard cases risks rewarding bad behavior as in the (apocryphal?) progressive London school where after one kid hit another with a brick the attacker was showered with attention while the victim was ignored.

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Matthew Ygelsias, most gifted children are born to rich parents who will see that they get an appropriate education.  Your policy of neglecting gifted children in public schools will make it harder for bright poor kids to compete while further distancing the elite from the public school system.  I don't see anything particularly progressive about this. 

avatar Western educators are too focused on conscious and deliberative thinking/learning-what's on the paper, on the blackboard, on exams and so on. There are reservoirs of subconscious learning that are utilized when called for. This is perhaps one explanation ofor why some innovations in a particular domain come from individuals who have little or no expertise in the field. 
And it is easy to see how that can be.
 
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Re: Most gifted children are born to rich parents who will see that they get an appropriate education. Your policy of neglecting gifted children in public schools will make it harder.....'==========I would say that all kids are gifted. I have not met any kid that I didn't feel that way about.

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sdanielles, I am assuming "gifted" means high IQ in this context.

avatar I don't think it makes sense to address economic inequality in the US education system by investing more money in underachieving students and less in so-called gifted students.  Looking at the problem this way misses the point.  Students' academic aptitude and parents' wealth often parallel each other, but progressive educational policy should not be made on the basis of this parallel, the causes and effects of which are complicated. 

Decisions about how much to invest in which kinds of educational programs in a school should be made on the local level based on the specific features of individual student bodies, local political and cultural preferences, and theories of education.  To the extent we want tax and public spending to redistribute wealth more equitably, we should redistribute it to poorer schools, not simply spend more on presumably poor underachieving students and less on presumably rich overachieving students within any given school.  This latter policy fails to address the underlying problem of inequitable geographic wealth distribution and unnessarily exacerbates local class animosities. 

The real inequity in public education is the fact that local property taxes fund education which means kids will only get as good an education as their neighborhood is rich.
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... but to the extent that the No Child Left Behind Act is the issue being discussed, the Post is right-on (as are an endless number of other commentators) that it is a well-intentioned-but-misdirected-miserable-failure and has failed to achieve any substantive improvements in the quality of public education.  It simply creates more layers of bureaucracy and lots of perverse incentives for teachers, administrators and bureaucrats.  Like I said... it needs to be about geographic redistribution of wealth in public education, not redistribution from gifted kids to underachievers.

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Interesting that similar if not identical concerns are being addressed in the piece in the NYT today on Bloomberg's education reforms. Note that they gave it an intro on Page A1:


In Middle Class, Signs of Anxiety on School Efforts

... " By SUSAN SAULNY In Middle Class, Signs ... By SUSAN SAULNY ...


December 27, 2005 -


Bloomberg's methods have made great strides in some of the worst schools; does not make for happy middle class so far. As much as I feel it is wrong and unhealthy for a community to ignore middle class concerns, I myself tend to give him benefit of the doubt...i.e., improving the permanent underclass situation should be the priority for a community, the rest follows if you've made some headway on that, then you're on your way to a bigger middle class. Without that, you've got all kinds of other, more serious problems than Johnny or Suzy Middle Class not get great college prep.

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While it's really tempting to criticize Yglesias for being so quick to sell out his not-so-rich gifted peers, I'm trying hard not to.  Oops.  ;-)

 

Maybe this is an outdated belief, but I think that education is primarily important for producing citizens who can adequately participate in the democratic process.  I think that means setting a bar and working as hard as necessary to see that people meet it.

 

This probably requires more effort on both the high and low end - enough on the low to get them to the necessary level, and enough on the high to keep them from completely writing off the education system.  I was friends with burnouts when I was in middle school.  Many of them were clearly gifted.  I don't think my experience is unique.

 

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Gifted children do not automatically turn out all right.  The great enemy of gifted children is boredom.  Once boredom hits, it becomes very difficult to get their attention back.  And the programs that raise average test scores are almost tailor made for producing boredom.  Bright children are as out of place in the average classroom as are slow children.

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Through my wife and my discussions with teachers as our son approaches school age it is consistent that they are concerned that the "gifted" kids are being left behind, thus the response of gifted programs throughout elementary schools. The idea is that with less "help" in the form of aides and such, teachers often fall back on relying on the gifted kids to help out. We have been told time and again by teachers to not allow our son, who seems to be a pretty bright little fellow, to be used as a glorified teachers aide in the classroom

As teachers are bound more and more with teaching to tests in the hope that scores will go up and they will qualify for funding, the kids already at the top aren't receiving the push they need to stretch their boundaries. Some theorize this as the reason why the US is falling behind in science and technology. We are settling for mediocre. I don't think the argument should be between helping the kids who are struggling the most and pushing the kids who already get it. We are forcing teachers to look at the gifted kid and ignore them because they do get it. That is failure. The best schools manage to help each group equally. It can be done and should be the focus.

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"Matthew Yglesias, most gifted children are born to rich parents who will see that they get an appropriate education...."

I would dispute this.  Most rich parents push their children hard from an early age.  But their children are not necessarily more 'gifted' than middle class kids, or even kids of the poor.  It all depends on the circumstances. 

 Had my father's father had access to a program for 'gifted children', it's likely that he would have ended up as a high achiever.  Instead, his education stifled, he ended up in a coal mine, leaving achievement to his children (and grandchildren). 

Matthew, I am glad to see so many people taking you to task for your claim that gifted children are easier to teach.  Such a statement belies a lack of experience in the field of education.  Gifted children present difficulties because often they are smarter than their teachers, which leads to a lack of interest in their studies and underachievement.   And then there are the potential emotional problems, depression, etc. 

Back to the original point: most of the people I know in the field of science, who would probably have been described as 'gifted' at some point, are not rich and never have been rich.  At least half came through the public school system.  Many have taken advantage of programs like Advanced Placement.   To say to such people "You're smart, so we don't need to pay attention to you" wastes a potential resource. 

 

 

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Re: I am assuming 'gifted' means high IQ in this context.-------The term 'gifted' has always denoted something broader than an IQ score, at least to me. As I tried to impy in another post, those reservoirs of unconscious/unarticulated knowledge are not easy to evaluate, although there have been attempts to do so. 
I suppose that if I came across a 7 or 8 year old child who was reading Chaucer and Tennyson, I might find that unusual. Nonetheless, it does not follow that the child can necessarily write like either of them. 
Each child has individual talents which can be cultivated through encouragement and discipline, although I don't rule out the potential for serendipitously derived talents. It's not all that well understood what inspires someone to produce a brilliantmusical work, without any encouragement and history of disciplined study of music. I think that is what is so wondrous about people. I venture that the capacity is derived unconsciously-maybe by having listened to great musical works in infancy. I just don't know. 

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Re: concentrating on hard cases risks rewarding bad behaviour as in the (apocryphal?) progressive London school where after one kid hit another with a brick the attacker was showered with attention while the victim was ignored.----------------
Whoa! Competition sure can bring out some base behaviours. As an aside, competition over IQ & other test scores has resulted in some too. I would not have believed it. This is probably one of the reasons why I think it is perverse for kids to be told that they or others have high IQs because they become obsessesed with trying to outdo others. The quality of their work suffers. And they go to great lengths to keep abreast of what someone with very IQ is doing and reading. Fortunately, I have been spared of the knowledge of my score. I could care less if it was 110.  

avatar "Not only is focusing on the hard cases more equitable, it may well be a better bang-for-the-buck.  The gifted kids are generally going to turn out okay regardless, while the hard cases likely won't (otherwise they wouldn't be hard cases)."

Julian, guest blogging at Andrewsullivan.com, points out (in response to Matthew's post) that 20% of dropouts are gifted students.

This is a rather personal topic for me. I started out at a parochial school, but spent the latter part of grade school at a suburban public school. I finished the sixth grade at the top of my class, but family troubles and what would be the beginning of a long struggle with depression took their toll on my enthusiasm for education. My parents were too busy fighting to notice, and teachers and administrators alike could have cared less that I (and a number of other kids like me) were falling through the cracks.

Somehow, I managed to recognize what was happening to me and get myself into a small, independent school, which almost certainly saved my future, and might have saved my life. It was an amazing, enchanted place, where creativity and critical thinking were valued, and kids and adults alike trusted and respected each other. It was what liberal education is supposed to be about.

Sadly, public education in a pluralistic, multicultural society is not likely to ever be as richly resourced as it is in mono-ethnic countries like Sweden or Japan. The American elites send their own kids to private schools, and as such are just not invested in the system (except to produce compliant workers and consumers). It is likely to remain a minimalist system, and our private schools likely to remain the gold standard.

I tend to think that NCLB in retrospect will be seen as a precursor to some kind of school voucher system, hopefully a more progressive one (as in the Netherlands). I'm disinclined to believe that would be a cure-all either, but at least it would afford poor and middle class kids and parents who actually value education (I often doubt whether these people are the majority) the chance to get a top notch education.

I have great sympathy for the plight of public school teachers - they are overwhelmed and underpaid - but the system has become deeply illiberal in any number of ways in recent decades (witness the rise of metal detectors, armed guards, video surveillance, and drug sniffing dogs at even suburban schools), and has always been illiberal in other ways (it is a social caste system that elevates some of the dumbest, and meanest elements of young America to the top of the social hierachy).

Wow, is there any debate I get sicker of faster than the whole "gifted vs. non-gifted," "smart vs. stupid," "mainstream vs. segment," whatever.  I say phooey.

Speaking as one who has been identified as gifted an exceptional since early elementary school, I'm all for the premise of NCLB.  (The President's execution of it not so much.)  But set aside all the moral arguments and optimization theory.  Here's why it's a good idea to help the less "gifted" (whatever the hell that means):

When "gifted students get all the attention and help, it breeds resentment from other kids.  That means the "gifted" children get the snot beat out of them by "large" and "mean" children.  Sure, provide extra programs for the "gifted" students, but help everyone else just as much, in order to save them black eyes. 

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I agree with this recommendation wholeheartedly, one that I have been endorsing for South Asia, for over 25 years. 

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Sorry, but it doesn't necessarily work out for the best. Our system needs to be much more flexible and attention needs to be paid to how children are doing in various subjects. I'm no genius but I did have one particular gift. Reading. I could already read quite well by the time I entered school. The only thing that 1st grade reading lessons did for me was bore me to tears. After they started giving us standardized tests the tests said that my reading level was 4 years ahead of the grade I was in and everything that derived from it was almost at the same level. The only thing that wasn't at that level was math. What did they do with this knowledge? Nothing. Not one extra thing to help me try and bring my math closer to my other skill levels. Maybe they thought that it didn't make any difference since I was at my grade level in math but wouldn't it have just made sense to do something a little different for someone who doesn't fit the mold? It would have made such a difference later in life.

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What seems to missing here is the concept discussed in the original article of how the penalties written into the NCLB legislation for not getting students above the required minimums actually disincentivizes schools and therefore teachers from exerting any effort to keep the more gifted children engaged.  If your yearly job review was almost totally based on what percentage of your students met a minimum standard, what would you do?
Simply modifying NCLB so that it used a 'valule-added' evaluation of schools systems would still challenge the schools to bring the poorer performing students up to standards while still providing incentives to continue pushing the more gifted students.
In the end, this is a question of long term equality.  What sort of career path do we envision for the student who settles for meeting a minimum standard?  Its the gifted children from challenging backgrounds who have the best chance of truly prospering in the new global economy.  A well to do child who is not being challenged can be sent to a private school by his parents; the underprivileged child likely will not have that option, especially if he is not challenged to generate the type of academic record that might earn him a scholarship.

avatar I've taught gifted kids and kids who test in the bottom 2 percentiles, and it's not a matter of being harder or easier to teach.  But it is very different. People learn differently  It is a matter of respect to treat students as individuals and teach them in the ways most suited to them.  It is just as inappropriate to require a child who is gifted in math to relearn the same ways to solve problems every year, as it would be to expect every student to know exactly how to solve problems when a teacher does one example on the board.  Some people just require more time, more repetitions, different approaches. 
     An easy way to solve this problem is a return to tracking.  In too many areas, it is seen as elitest to recognize that some students are better in math, English, science, etc., than other kids.   This has led to what is currently being called differentiation.  Teachers are expected to differentiate the instruction within the classroom (which in California can have 40 students) to meet each student's needs.  Even with perfectly behaved children, this is an impossible task.  
     I must return to respect for the individual.  Tracking according to the work level of the student helps every student to progress at his own pace. 
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This discussion seems to be missing one of the central points of the original:  NCLB's pitting of lower achieving kids against higher achieving kids in the competition for scarce educational resources. This is a real problem.  I sit on a school board in suburban New Jersey where, because of a draconian school finance statutute, we are compelled to cut the budget year after year.  Given the severe penalties built into NCLB, in deciding what to cut, it is a no brainer.  We are not going to get nailed for having inferior programs for gifted students or, even,for those who are merely proficient.  We can, however, suffer crippling penalties for not getting lower achieving students over the "proficiency" bar. 

This is, in part, what NCLB was designed to do:  drive a wedge between the middle class and the public schools to pave the way for vouchers.  This debate is evidence that it is succeeding.  For further evidence see yesterday's front page article in the New Yor Times where middle class parents are chafing against what they perceive as Chancellor's Klein's effort to turn schools into de facto test prep centers.  As the NCLB continues to raise the "proficiency" standards, this is exactly what more and more US public schools are going to look like.

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I teach engineering at Ohio State University, and I see the consequences of America turning its back on its gifted kids every day. The grades in my classes (and those of my colleagues) typically fall into two groups: the kids who were educated in Catholic (and rarely, private) schools, and everyone else. Sadly, a lot of kids have been handicapped for life because they came from public schools where most of the resources go to the kids most at risk. This is understandable, but as a nation I think we're making choices that are already coming back to haunt us.
I spent yesterday evaluating applicants for our graduate program. Out of 15 applicants, five were from India, two were from Taiwan, and the remainder were from China. At Big Ten universities, the percentage of international students in graduate programs in science and engineering is typically over 80%. Our kids simply cannot compete at this level. When I read the apps from the Chinese students, it's clear that they've been engaged in activities like building robots and competing in science fairs since they were 10 or 12. How many gifted American kids get these kinds of opportunities?
Several years ago I had a very bright young African American woman in one of my classes who came from one of Cleveland's dysfunctional high schools. She told me that she never saw a Bunsen burner in operation until she came to Ohio State, because the school had no money for chemistry lab - instead of lab, her chemistry class did worksheets. In Ohio, at least, this is not a problem confined to the inner cities, either: the schools in the Appalachian third of Ohio are in equally bad shape. We very rarely see any students from the inner cities or from Appalachia in the college of engineering here.
The Republicans who run Ohio are quite comfortable with the situation as it is, because their kids typically go to private schools. I'm convinced our friends on the right see education as a zero sum game, so by disadvantaging other kids, they help their own. I fear that those of us on the left who only worry about the kids at the bottom of the pile ignore the fact that by doing so, we've driven a lot of parents (who are also voters) away from public schools, and into the arms of the right. When I see my own school district refusing to create more magnet schools focused around science and math, I'm just baffled....especially when they complain that they're losing their best students to charter schools.
Personally, I would love to see an honest open debate about education within the Democratic Party, but I don't expect it, because it would involve challenging some long-held, and much cherished notions of "equality". In truth, unless we once again take seriously the task of educating every child to their maximum potential, we're really endangering their future and our own. 
An uneducated populace is much easier to sway, as we saw in last year's election. The Republican assault on science and the ability to sway the voting public by fear are directly correlated to the level of education, and we ignore this simple fact at our peril.


avatar A few years ago I left a lucrative career in bond trading to return to my passion - teaching so-called 'gifted' math students.  (You can find our current work <a href="http://www.artofproblemsolving.com">here</a >, which is an extension of texts I co-authored in college.)  I was one of these kids once. 

I went to a school that did not have the academic reputation of either of these programs.  But my teachers created for me exactly what I needed: time, freedom, and opportunities.  They didn't bog me down with pointless homework, and left me free to pursue my interests.  Meanwhile, they made opportunities for me to work with other eager students in my state (Alabama, which you'll be shocked to hear was a breeding ground for top math students from the mid-80s to the mid-90s, maybe because the boot-camp AP attitude came late to Alabama).  This education was perfect for me - I learned the 'do it yourself' skills that have led to a couple successful careers (and made college a breeze).  This I hope to instill in my students now.

The current rigid classroom paradigm does not work for our most eager students.  Not even the APs; our top students are hindered by them rather than helped by them, as they are bogged down by having to take so many of them rather than focusing in the areas about which they are passionate, and which will be their calling in life.  Many of the students I work with now are utterly crushed by the AP system.  They ace their AP's, to be sure, but they take 15-20 of them during high school, and instead of honing thinking skills, are simply getting very good at taking tests.  Moreover, the time spent on the APs is time away from more fruitful pursuits - namely, whatever it is these students really love to study.  What is a future research scientist doing taking her third AP history exam instead of using some extra free time pursuing the science she loves?

Our job as instructors and parents of these students is to provide opportunities and stay out of the way.  The current educational system (except in a few shining counterexamples) rarely does both.  Even when opportunities are presented, they're given as mandatory, and often turn into obstacles. 

Give them guidance, give them options, but let them choose.  The future leaders will choose wisely, and be better for having chosen themselves.

avatar Underfunding gifted education programs at the public schools will continue the decline of the Ameircan public school system.  It will drive parents of gifted children who can afford to send their children to do so, leaving the children of less affulent or less dedicated parents marooned in a system that considers them to be "smart enough to figure things out for themselves."  The externalities from losing many of the most dedicated students and parents from a public school system cannot be underestimated. 

(I am speaking here from personal experience. I left public school for private school in seventh grade precisely because I lived in a suburban public school district that kept gifted education as a low priority.  My parents made signifcant sacrifices, that combined with generous financial aid from my alma mater, permitted me to get a first-class education.  However, it was their clear preference to have kept me in public school, and it was only after their efforts to reform the system failed that they made the decision to send their child to private school). 

What we should be aspiring for is not an egalitarian society but a truly meritocratic society.  Thriving gifted education programs in public schools are essential to ensure that the talented children of the lower and middle-class have as much of an opportunity for success as the talented children of the upper class.  Furthermore, scrimping on public gifted education in an increasingly competitive global marketplace is the equivalent to unilateral disarmament. 
avatar I would like to throw out another related problem that is not addressed by No Child Left Untested, any private school I've ever heard of (and certainly none that is financially or physically within my reach) or the "mainstreaming" model of public education: the "twice gifted" student. This is the child who is academically or otherwise gifted, but who also has a learning disability. Trust me, such children do exist, even though few professional educators seem to know that. My son is one of them. A sharp second grade teacher (with gifted children of her own) recognised that my son is bright but couldn't seem to get his thoughts down on paper, not even at a level that would be "normal" for a child that age. Thank God she recommended testing by the school psychologist (thank God, too, that his school had one!) That testing revealed a composit IQ of 152. Subsequent testing by a psychiatrist revealed my son has a learning disability, a form of Attention Deficit Disorder. Among other things, this form of ADD makes it very difficult for him to do certain tasks that are a normal part of any standardized test such as looking at answer options in a test booklet, but writing the answers down on a separate answer sheet. He also has supreme difficulty copying down what he's written on one page to another, as one might do in re-writing a rough draft.

Believe me, we have been through dozens of meetings with principals, teachers, school psychologists, school district administrators and others, nearly all of whom are well-meaning and really want to come up with a plan to teach my son to his fullest capacity, but we keep running into essentially the same problem: the system is designed to teach the middle 67% of the kids. The kids at the bottom 17%, "ED kids," get special funding to address their needs because we have Federal and State laws in place that require it, and the gifted kids are presumed to be able to muddle through somehow, essentially on their own.

I don't believe that there can possibly be one education policy answer that can fit all students and all school districts. There must be room for flexibility. I also believe that those who formulate education policy are generally only thinking about the two-thirds of the kids in the middle, the "average," and that as a whole our citizenry does not place a very high value on a good education. If they did, starting pay for a public school teacher would exceed that of a Wal-Mart greeter, which it does not.
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I'm a parent of a gifted and a borderline gifted child, the latter also has a slight case of ADD.  They both attend a public school which is a magnet for gifted students while also providing traditional education for average and educationally disabled students.  I sympathize with my kids because I was gifted, too, understand that bright kids can become troublemakers or mentally drop out when not challenged or bored (been there, done that, hoo-boy).

What completely pisses me off about NCLB is that my kids are now spending nearly an entire month every year on mandatory NCLB test preparation.  These bright kids need more education -- whether gifted track or not -- not more down time, not more rote and repetition.  NCLB as it exists today basically decreased the amount every state has to fund actual education by demanding allocations of manhours on test preparation and documentation and reporting.  It also decreases the amount of actual education every single child gets out of the public system, regardless of whether they are gifted, challenged, average, period.

If my kids are spending one month a year on NCLB, they are going to lose ONE ENTIRE YEAR of education during their K-12 years to nothing but testing.

How will ANY of our children be able to compete with their counterparts globally if the emphasis of their entire education is also geared not to creativity or innovation or independent thought or skill development, but on TESTING???

Every one of my kids' teachers also confirms they are pressured into producing the same educational experience for every single child, so that they get exactly the same results.  How does this prepare our children for a diversity of challenges in the post-school working world?  How does this does this encourage the kind of diversity we need to produce high-quality products?  It takes a technical aptitude to make a working product, a creative aptitude to envision the product to begin with, math-financial aptitude to make a cost-effective and profitable product...how do we get all these different skillsets developed from a widget production mentality forced upon our children's educational system?

The worst part of this is seeing my children's frustration with weeks of mind-numbing test prep, knowing not only that they've lost a month of real learning, but that some child who is average -to-challenged could not have the benefit of the resources spent on testing my kids so that they could actually improve.  Very, very sad, and completely counterproductive approach to public education.

Unless, of course, the actual plan is Norquistian: drive people out of public schools until everyone homeschools and noone pays taxes for public schools.  I refuse to give in to Norquist's bathtub-drowning approach, though.  My kids will stay in public schools and I'll fill in the gap with extra material until we can be rid of this administration and its abortion called NCLB.

 

 

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Interesting comments all.  There are obviously more ideas as there are problems, and there is no one size fits all solution.  What will work for a failing "inner city" school may not work for a failing suburban or small-to-mid town school.  Take the elementary school my two kids attend with a high transiency rate.  What does year-to-year changes in API (or whatever they call it) really mean if there's a significant percentage of new students coming into the school each year, a significant loss of last year's students, and plenty of english language learners in the mix?

Now my two kids are at the top of their class and have taken the test to get into the gifted magnet school every year.  But I don't know if they just aren't gifted enough or they don't have enough room at the magnet school to take everyone who qualifies.  Just get a form letter every year saying sorry...  And under NCLB, there is no chance for them to get into a better school.  NCLB lets the lower income, lowest performing kids transfer to better schools first.  We're middle class, not rich, but this is a school where so many of the kids qualify for the free school lunch program they just give everyone a free lunch.  No kidding.  No escape.

Middle class+good grades=time to move to a better school district.

And our school district is wondering why they have 1000 fewer students than they were anticipating losing for this school year.  (Expected loss=800, actual loss=1800)

So, here are my ideas: public education vouchers, de-regulation, competition, and entrance exams.

1. Every child gets 13 public education vouchers, good for 1 year of education at any state or private educational establishment.

2. The education process is deregulated so that principals and administrators have the responsibility (if they want it) of chartering, magnetizing, customizing, improving, experimenting, and generally messing around with the educational experience that their school provides.  If they want the old-fashioned command and control style system, they can stick with that. Good luck.

3. Students can go to any school in the district.  Schools compete to get students, students compete to get into the best schools in the district.

4. Students must take and pass entrance exams that cover all subjects at the end of the school year to progress to the next grade level.  If they do not pass, they have the summer to study and take it again.  If they do not pass, they repeat the grade.  Parents are provided sample entrance exams for the next grade level at the beginning of the school year so they know what is required, and can administer tests themselves to make sure the child is mastering the required subjects and if not, where the child needs help.

For all its faults, standardized testing is an effort to introduce accountability to teachers and schools.  Ideas 1 and 4 combine to enforce accountability on parents.  We always hear about how important parental involvement is to education.  If education is still failing, in some cases at least, it must still be the parents fault.

So now we say, ok, we are not going to waste taxpayer money on students who aren't learning. Parents, get involved!  If your child has to repeat a grade, you have to spend one of your precious 13 vouchers on that year.  And you better start saving now for that child's senior year of high school, because you're going to have to pay for it yourself.  And you better hope he doesn't repeat another grade.  I think that will get a lot of parents attention.

I would expect such a proposal would spark a lot of outrage, and maybe it would be impossible to implement.  It might be easier if you want to make allowances: you could say give each child 14 vouchers (just in case a grade is repeated or to include a year of optional preschool?), or 15 if you really want to be nice.

But at the end of the 12th grade, any child that has leftover vouchers has a bonus.  I realized that the amount I had to pay each year to go to a California State University was quite a bit less than what is spent per year per child in the K-12 school system.  If a child skips kidnergarten, passes the 1st grade entrance exam, he's got 1 year of college paid for.  Skip ahead a grade, another year of college.  If the child ends up going to a UC or a more expensive private college, the value of the voucher can still applied towards the total cost.  Go to a community college, maybe one voucher is good for two years...  Vocational schools could accept vouchers too.

From this viewpoint, it might be an easier sell if you give kids 14 or 15 vouchers.  For most kids who don't have to repeat a grade, this would mean that the state is guaranteeing a year or two of college for everyone.

A last idea, introduce two diplomas:  a class 2 diploma is granted when a student passes an 8th grade exit exam, the exit exam being a standard test established at the state level.  A class 1 diploma is granted when a high school exit exam is passed.  A big fuss right now about high school exit exams.  It almost seems like the attitude is "We can't NOT give a student a diploma just because he/she didn't pass an exit exam.  It's not fair!"

Most if not all students ought to be able to get the class 2 diploma, even if they have to work four more years in high school to get it.  There, they have a diploma.  If they can't get the class 1 by 12th grade, they can always use an extra voucher to go to school for another year and try again, or go on independant studies and take the test over, or just give up and learn how to flip hamburger patties. 

No pass, no diploma.  It may sound harsh and radical, but at least the diploma (class 1 or 2) will mean something.

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I haven't had time to read the other comments yet, so I don't know if I'm saying something that has already been said. Nevertheless, as a "gifted" student who has been in both gifted programs and normal programs, I feel that I have something to contribute.

The most important thing I have to say is that if you think gifted students are the easiest to teach, you are dead wrong. Gifted students are probably some of the hardest to teach. I don't think they even belong in the classroom with the other students.

Gifted students aren't like other students. That sounds elitest, but it's true. Gifted students want to be challenged dynamically, and the current public school system is not set up to do that. If gifted students aren't being thoroughly engaged by the material, they'll find something else to do. This "something else" will probably involve acting out in highly creative and disruptive ways.

Anyone who thinks gifted students will be able to "figure things out for themselves" and "turn out okay regardless" is, well, wrong. Gifted students are not only one of the greatest categories of underachievers (something like 20% of HS dropouts are gifted), but they also are, well, lacking in normal skills. To use me as an example: I can build a working robot, but I can't get the saran wrap off of my sandwich at lunch. I can do advanced maths (ooh, and win competitions, which is clearly a better benchmark than just being able to do the maths) but I can't add numbers in my head. Most gifted students I know have similar small hangups. In order to do even decently, we need to be surrounded by people who understand that while we may be better-than-average in some areas, we are woefully lacking in others.

Another problem with gifted students is our almost complete inability to understand multiple choice and true/false tests. There's almost ALWAYS an unlikely but possible exception that causes one or more answer(s) to be technically correct. I always got rather bad grades on multiples choice and true/false tests before I went to high school, where we actually had a day devoted to how we're supposed to figure out the answer that the question-askers want, rather than the one that is technically correct (since there may be more than one of those). Most students don't have to do that.

 Also, in my experience, gifted students are FAR more likely to have emotional disorders than other students. Almost all the students at my high school had ADD or ADHD, and most had some form or a combination of depression, bipolar disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, social anxiety disorder, and so on. One girl was narcoleptic, and that was interesting. I believe it was greatly beneficial to all of us to be thrown in together with other people with these issues, because it gave everyone a sort of "safe space" outside the psychiatrist/psychologist's office where we could talk about it, compare medications and coping strategies, etc. Of course, it was also good because if someone missed their meds and was behaving in a way which could be construed as "absolutely insane," no one really minded once we figured out they were just off the meds. "Normal" people would have reacted in a very, very different way.

Tracking, as a solution, is a good one. I was unofficially "tracked up" (it's illegal to do, evidently, so, you know) in a biology class freshman year and an english class junior year. In both cases, I tested out of the material at the beginning of the course and was given independent study projects for the remainder of the year. In both cases, it was only me and a handful of other students (the same ones each time, too) who were in this independent study. I think, also, in both cases it was to get us out of the teacher's hair, because we're all the sorts of students would spend large amounts of classtime arguing with the teacher about if The Stranger is really about nihilism, or if the first half was a case study of a sociopath and Camus just lost the plot in the second half, or if nihilism is a philosophical justification of sociopathic tendencies since the scientific one hadn't gotten around at that point in time. The result of having gifted students in with less-gifted or normal students is a LOT of lost class time.

 In my opinion, the best way to cater to everyone would be to have a mult-tiered tracking system, with a minimum of three tiers. Tier 1 would be for below-average students, Tier 2 would be for average students, and Tier 3 would be for above-average students. It would be ideal if each student was put in a tier level by subject rather than as a whole -- so if someone was really good at english and history they'd be Tier 3 in those subjects, and if they were decent at math, Tier 2 in that, but if they were dreadful in science they could be in Tier 1. This would also give kids a chance to move around, so if they were dreadful in science for a while, but then worked up and were consistently making excellent grades, they could move up to Tier 2 the next school year. The difference between tiers wouldn't be in the material that was learned, but rather the depth of the coverage, and the number of independent study projects, etc.

 Of course, I also think that a good (and less complicated) way to make the school system better would be to hire better teachers. Unfortunately, that's not going to happen until they start paying teachers more. I enjoy teaching, but I will never be a teacher, solely because I wouldn't earn enough for what I'd be having to do.

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