Larry Johnson asked:

Shocked anyone?

I'm just simply speechless and lost for words. . .

I'd hold out for the Rita Cosby show if I were you.

wink ... wink

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Rupert Murdoch banned me from Fox because I had the temerity to say on the Hannity and Colmes show (Novmber 2002) that an invasion of Iraq would be a diversion in the war on terrorism.  I'll take any of the Faux News guys on.  Been there, done that.  

Oooo ... Atten'Hut!

It's time for everyone to pop-tall, button your pieholes and stand at attention and shiver. The Sarge just entered the Foxhole.

I wonder how often this sort of thing goes on.  It amounts to censorship, and it's disgusting that the news outlets allow it.  It also goes a long way in explaining why our discourse has become so warped and one note.  

"why don't you take your tough talk to the Fox news channel , and the Sean Hannity show. Or are you too much of a I think the term is "Girly Man". "

Sarge, I think the operative term here is "assume".  You made an ass out of "u" and "me".  I haven't giggled that hard since the last time I got buttstroked with a pugil stick while trying to do an overhead slash.

But seriously, unless you're a dour little troll and can't laugh about taking a cream pie to the face, you should start a grassroots campaign in whatever part of the blogosphere you call home to get Fox to invite Larry and BB on together.

I don't like the phrase "girly man". It was inappropriate and sexist for Arnold to use it at the Republican Convention. I don't think anyone should use it, even in an attempt to be humorous.

Why liberals are laughed at, Exhibit 1042.

Just a wee bit of trivia.

L. Brent Bozell is William Buckley's brother-in-law.  He was (probably still is)  married to Buckley's sister.

Why I don't really want to jump into the sexist language fray and on to "liberals, that is why you fail" (said as Yoda) argument...the way I always counter such language is to say things such as...."Oh, but you give Brent Bozell too much credit for being brave calling him a "girly"....he's nothing but a lily livered shrill conservative."

Bozell has been 'there' from the beginning.  Just two short exerpts from Rick Perlstein's essential 'Before the Storm':

(Bozell, writing in the National Review in 1958) A conservative electorate has to be created,  out of that vast, uncommitted middle - the great majority of the American people who, though today they vote for Democratic or Modern Republican candidates, are not ideologically wedded to their programs or, for that matter, to any program.  The problem is to reach them and to organize them

Read between those lines.  Of course he wasn't wrong, but his statement has the definite ring of demogoguery, of insurgency.  There're a huge bunch of rubes who don't know what they want, and are ripe for the picking; we can stir them up and get power.

Another colorful antecdote about the 'energetic red-headed Yalie from Omaha':

[Bozell was hired as ghostwriter for a 100 page book on Americanism 'by' Goldwater]...but then the ghostwriter promptly went missing for the next three weeks. (He was sojourning in Spain, where he had begun a romance with Catholic monarchism).

Yes, that's the delightful Generalissimo Franco he's talking about.  These are your hardcore 'movement' conservatives, folks, then and now: defending Joe McCarthy (Bozell worked in McCarthy's office), calling people who would disagree or even argue rationally with you 'unpatriotic', 'traitor', etc. - same stuff, different day.  And Brent isn't the only one still around from those thrilling years.

Buckley has managed to draw a certain amount of grace and respectability to himself, especially in his old age.  Bozell, on the other hand, is just a grouchy old crank who really needed a good spanking about 40-50 years ago and never got one. Of course he would never debate someone like Mr Johnson, or even go on after or before him.  He's a liar and propagandist who's mission is to shut down debate, not participate in it.  And I'm sure that the kind of person who would have a 'romance' with Catholic monarchism is far too sensitive to handle being challenged - or especially ridiculed - very well.

Why liberals are laughed at, Exhibit 1042.

May I add, also why despised? The P.C. police has done so much harm to liberal causes since the 80's. Reminds me of a thread on another site long ago that had complaints about the use of "master/slave" as a techie hardware term. Reeedickulus!

And come to think of it, this proud feminist sees absolutely nothing offensive about the "etymology" of 'girly men,' and nothing anti-feminist. If anything, it's anti-males who lack enough of certain hormones. It's popularity comes from the old "Hans and Frans" bodybuilder skit on Saturday Night Live, which in itself mocked muscle bound anabolic steroid fed dumbkopfs. "Girly man" addresses the whole hormones thing. Tlees2, if you don't believe that hormones have something to do with how people act, you should probably be hanging with the "Intelligent Design" crew. I'm proud of being a "estrogen-dense" being (generalizing for effect)....along with that comes less upper body strength, yah girlieness. If I don't want to be "girly," I'd get me some of those drugs that the female Soviet atheletes used to take to give them

Mho, your choice of 'sexist terminology' to attack harms feminism, marks it as an irrational religion like most other religions. As if women and men are not different. We all know they are.(Meanwhile, you've just taken several two steps back from the return to a matriarchal world. :-))

Note to Larry:

You do seem to have a style that ticks off the P.C. police. Keep it up! I enjoy it. I'm tired of liberal weenies who are afraid to use powerful metaphors. I've never once seen you cross the line into frat-boy tastelessness with that kind of stuff; if you do, I'll be there bitching too....that's where I draw the line... :-)

Right on.  Leave it to a woman to capture the essence.

Best

LJ

You're lucky you didn't have to share the stage with him.  He's known to literally foam at the mouth, and you might have had him drool on you if he leaped at you on set the way Paul Waldman reported happened to him this past summer.

The guy is living proof that being a far right lunatic is genetic, being the son of the late L. Brent Bozell II, who was a founder of the National Review and was kicked out by William F. Buckley Jr. in 1966 for being too looney for the NR, because he was such a conservative Catholic he advocated rebellion against Pope John XXIII over Vatican-II.  In fact, I thinkg Bozell #2 was one of those with Mel Gibson's looney-tooney old man to found the "Tridentine Catholic Church," the guys who are as determined to maintain 16th century Torquemada Catholicism as the fundamentalist Mohammedan loonies are to maintain 7th Century Mohammedanism.

When Arnold used the phrase "girly men" he meant it as an insult. He was saying that men should act in a traditionally "tough" way that has caused so many of the problems we have in the world today. I think aAnold is a moron for phrasing things that way. That insensitivity to gender issues is part and parcel of all the other problems we have in society today. To be concerned about sexism is not to say one is not concerned with all of these other important issues.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Rupert Murdoch banned me from Fox because I had the temerity to say on the Hannity and Colmes show (Novmber 2002) that an invasion of Iraq would be a diversion in the war on terrorism.  I'll take any of the Faux News guys on.

I don't know, I just think it's strange that you of all people would be "banned" from the network. There are plenty of Democrats and anti-Bush people on there all of the time. I just don't see a reason to ban you. A hundred other people had to have gone on Fox news programs since the start of the war and said the same thing, so it just doesn't make sense. I don't know you or Rupert Murdoch, but I do know that saying the invasion of Iraq was a diversion from the war on terror will not get you banned from any news program I'vce ever scene.

How else to explain the success of the myth of the liberal media, the liberal academy, the liberal government.  We already know the news media is not liberal, but generally staffed by an upper-middle intellectual elite who couldn't care less about the working class and the virtues of New Deal liberalism.

Ok, the media is not liberal? Name three reporters who you can be relativly sure voted for George Bush?

 Are you kidding?  Have you watched Fox lately?  There is no debate whatsoever on Fox. Their definition of debate is to out shout, talk over, ignore and laugh off any real intelligent discussion. All one needs to confirm that is to look at the loony bin of morning show hosts they have every morning.  They are all a disgrace to media.


I don't know you or Rupert Murdoch, but I do know that saying the invasion of Iraq was a diversion from the war on terror will not get you banned from any news program I'vce ever scene.

Wallace,

You are a complete moron.  I was under contract to FOX, for one year, starting January 2002.  I was paid a fixed fee each week for a year.  After the Hannity and Colmes appearance I was not used on any program except the O'Reilly Factor.  And even he stopped.  I was told by a senior Fox executive that Murdoch had ordered his minions not use me after said appearance.  What you believe is irrelevant.  This is what happened to me.

Thanks humancapital.  That does make sense.  The current menace looks way too young, now that you mention it.

"Macho man" describes a certain male mentality. Thanks for informing me that males and females are not identical. Duh! When Arnold and Zell went into their sick little routines at the Republican Convention they were trying to play "macho men" and claim that men who didn't agree with them were "girly men". I think it was intended as a sexual orientation put down. You probably not surprised to find that in addition to being opposed to sexism, I'm opposed to homophobia.