A Political Thanksgiving
I have been suffering from a pervasive underlying sense of depression, almost despair, at what is happening to this country. We are to the point where a former CIA director publicly calls our Vice President a Vice President for Torture, and where the Washington Post calls our current CIA director a Director for Torture, and yet we cannot get a bill through Congress that would return to our half-century tradition of complying with the Geneva Conventions and extending the obligation not to engage in torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment to the CIA. We are going to stand by and let possibly tens of thousands of Pakistanis die in the high mountains in brutal conditions, while Britain and the UN do their best to help, when it is absolutely clear that improving perceptions of the U.S. in Pakistan and then throughout the Muslim world is one of our major strategic priorities and, were we not tied down and floundering in Iraq, we could have actually led a global effort along the lines of the Berlin Airlift to help. And two months after Hurricane Katrina, we have not even been able to restore power to major parts of New Orleans, as we were unable to restore power in Baghdad for months and months and months. A group of Woodrow Wilson School students who went to New Orleans to work over fall break at the end of October report that the French Quarter is thriving, in part through construction workers coming from all over the country for good jobs rebuilding some parts of the city, while the 9th ward remains full of people who had no where to go before the hurricane and no way to get there and now are living in unspeakable conditions of rubble, waste, and toxic mold. And the New Orleans Times-Picayune, while noting some bright spots, writes of Congressional indifference and the "creeping abandonment of greater New Orleans."
I could go on. But it is Thanksgiving, and I am more aware this year than possibly ever before how fortunate I and my family are. In the spirit of the day, let me offer and give thanks for the few bright spots I can make out on the present political landscape.
Thanks to John McCain and Lindsey Graham, who at last have actually tried to do something about what is right now an offical public American endorsement of torture, betraying our values, harming our soldiers, and utterly destroying our legitimacy not only in the Muslim world but in large parts of Europe.
Thanks to Jane Mayer of the New Yorker for her extraordinary reporting on torture - last winter on "outsourcing torture" through our rendition program, this summer on the use of doctors to help experiment with how much the victims of our interrogations could stand, and more recently on the death of one detainee in Abu Ghraib from asphyxiation resulting from being "shackled in a in a crucifixion-like pose" by a CIA interrogator now living quietly in Virginia. As painful as it is to read, we need to know.
Thanks for Jack Balkin's blog Balkinization, and particularly Marty Lederman, whose posts allow us to track so clearly just how and when the Administration decided, over the objections of our own military, to put us on that path of lawlessness that led to Abu Ghraib, Bhagram, and Guantanamo.
Thanks for the lawyers representing Hamdi and Hamdan and now Padilla, insisting, in the best American legal tradition, that no matter how unsavory the client, the principles of equal protection under the law, of due process, and of habeas corpus must be upheld.
Thanks to Chuck Hagel for saying, shortly after Veterans Day, "To question your government is not unpatriotic - to not question your government is unpatriotic."
Thanks to Condoleezza Rice for trying to bring some measure of sanity to U.S. policy on Iran and North Korea and for being willing to risk her own prestige to go the distance negotiating an agreement on access to Gaza.
Thanks to Senator Biden for at least trying to articulate a principled and coherent alternative Democratic foreign policy with some positive, concrete, and distinctive suggestions about what could be done.
Thanks to Senator Harry Reid for finding both the imagination and the backbone to unite the Democrats and stand up for our right to know more about the Administration's handling of pre-war intelligence.
Thanks to the thousands of ordinary Americans who have tried to do what they could to help the victims of Katrina, from opening their houses to using their vacation time to go to New Orleans to help, even as the government has failed in its most basic obligations.
Thanks for the 2006 elections, which will give us a chance to elect men and women, Democrat and Republican, to take back our country and restore competent, effective, and principled government.


...and thank you for putting good links & information about the U.S Torture issue all in one place.
Yesterday, I had a choice to either continue pouring over the numerous and voluminous accounts of abuse and torture by US troops or go to the Longhorn-Aggie breaksfast.
My choice?
I spent an enjoyable morning stuffing myself with a hearty breakfast (7 pieces of bacon), smooching with the Texas Governor, the Mayor of Austin, Darryl Royal (he signed my UT shirt), Ron Franklin, Kirk Bohls, Cactus Pryor, the Aggie and Longhorn cheerleaders, and the KLBJ morning team.
Take a break.! Look how much mine paid off for me.
Your research is over (for this post)!
Your concise typo-free report has been published.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving!
November 24, 2005 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
i agree both with the sense of despair as well as the list of things to be thankful for... i find that when i remember to be grateful for my blessings, depression and despair don't stand much of a chance... that's not to suggest sticking one's head in the sand but it's important tokeep in mind not only what IS good in the here and, but also how things CAN be in a brighter future that will be coming...
meanwhile, here's a suggestion for how NOT to support the troops this Thanksgiving...
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-not-to-support-t roops-on.html
November 24, 2005 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
We are too powerful and too wealthy and too unchallenged, I think. It's a situation that is rife for the kind of arrogant, self-involved foreign policy we've been seeing.
Has any country enjoyed the kind of unrivaled power the United States now has, and not turned arrogant? Can you think of an example in history? I can't. It's easy to hang the whole thing on the Bush Administration, and they certainly deserve blame, but even now, nearly 40% of the county likes the job he's doing, and it's domestic, more than foreign, issues that have driven his ratings that low. I think you're being too optimistic about the future -- I think things can easily get worse from here, at least on the foreign policy front.
November 24, 2005 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Alas, even the bright spot you discern looks darker than you suggest, since Mr. Graham's latest amendment would shred the most fundamental of our freedoms, habeas corpus, and Mr. McCain voted for it.
November 24, 2005 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I consider the implications of this graph from Prof Pollkatz Bush Approval
Steady exposure to Bush causes steady erosion in his support. And oddly at the same rate. The trend was particularly clear until about Mar 2004 when the election entered some distortions, and resumed in January. His approval spiked at three different 'Commander in Chief' moments: 9/11, the Fall of the Statue, and the Capture of Saddam and then immediately started eroding again.
Bush wears on people and absent some rallying moment simply drift away from him as their comfort level allows.
You look at other Presidents approval rates and the ups and downs are reactions to events and tend to go up and down in waves. I am not a polling expert but in my experience as a political observer I have never seen anything like Bush's graph. He simply wears on people and they drop off.
He has to bottom out at some point, but if anything the decline got steeper the last few weeks. People are finally getting the freedom to tell pollsters that they hate what Bush has done to America.
If Bush ever shows signs of recovery of approval on a steady basis I might return to the truly depressed state I was in in Dec 2002. But even then I recognized that we had knocked 30 points of approval off of a "popular wartime President".
I think we are going to like 2006.
November 24, 2005 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
What I really take for this post, aside from all of the specific objections to things that our government has done, is the sense that, even if the Republicans lose the White House in 2008, we are all going to have a whole lot of fundamental problems to deal with -- so many things that Americans of either party would have once assumed, like respect for due process even if the accused is odious, or the notion that out international behavior should not just please us but should be a benchmark by which the choices that other countries make are judged, are just kind of gone now. Bush rewrote the rules and has invalidated so many old assumptions we've had about who we are and how we act.
Grand pronouncements are often silly and this one will seem silly too but, I think that our mission, in the coming post-Bush era, really will be to restore America's greatness from top to bottom. We'll have economic work to do, and will face powerful adversaries on that front, and we'll have an international reputation to restore, though we'll face a lot of doubt around the world and, more than anything, both domestically and internationally, we're going to have to restore our principles so that we can be a country with a purpose again, rather than a powerful country that simply pursues its interests and follows the path of convenience with no thought to the larger implications of what we do.
November 24, 2005 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm thankful we still live in a country where we may learn things that depress us. Not that there aren't significant efforts to bury such things...
November 24, 2005 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Joe Biden Iraq policy, in effect "I wish we could put in more troops but that's politically impossible so we should start thinking about gradually getting out," is neither coherent nor something to be thankful for.
We _can_ be thankful for Representative Murtha for putting a big crack in the united for neo-colonial occupation Democrat-Republican line.
And for folks like Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller on Air America.
But fundamentally I'm thankful for the solid good sense of most Americans, and their sharp disapproval of Bush and the Demo-Repub Iraq policy. Public opinion and the establishment's attempts to appease or even represent it gives peace has a chance.
November 24, 2005 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anne-Marie, you need to stop thinking that America's most valuable contribution to the world is America's (admittedly awesome) ability to overpower other nations. Only then can you embrace the light side of the force.
We can only be a force for good if we strive first to be good. You "internationalists" would do well to remember that.
November 24, 2005 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
... the efforts here and abroad are ongoing - Russia wants to kick out Amnesty, Blair is using the Official Secrets Act to prevent more info about Bush threatening to bomb Al-Jazeera (sp?) from getting out, and who knows what oppressive horrors "5 deferment" Dick has in mind for any dissidents if he can get away with it.
November 24, 2005 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree - both those guys are not the type of reprensentatives that Americans should have. If you want to make the case that they are a tiny bit less horrendous than Bush/Cheney/ and that female rep from Ohio who indirectly called Murtha a "coward" that doesn't make me feel real good.
November 24, 2005 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arrogant superpowers can quickly become in Nixon's (shudder) phrase "pitiful, helpless giants".
November 24, 2005 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Darryll Royal had some really good Texas football teams.
November 24, 2005 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks to Lindsay Graham? The guy who just shredded the Guantanamo detainees' habeas rights, on the basis of distorted claims about the "frivolous cases" they were filing? I don't think so.
I used to think he was one of the sorta kinda good guys. Not after this.
November 24, 2005 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
November 24, 2005 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find it interesting and instructive that you are thankful for the comments of Sen. Biden but Representative Murtha's comments do not make your list. From my vantage point, Biden started as a key promoter of the Iraq war, one of its strongest advocates, and one of the most reluctant to criticize the basis and goals of this action. Murtha's comments on the other hand signalled a seismic shift in the debate over the Iraq war something a Biden or a Clinton or a Lieberman could have effected years ago, before so much of this tragedy unfolded.
November 24, 2005 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
'... and a country where you can accurately state that the boy emperor who stole elections conned those soldiers by exploiting the fear of the citizenry caused by the terrifying events of 9/11. Also you can do somethiung to support those troops whose lives are being held hostage by the deceits of the boy emperor, whose Uncle Dick would trample those right that are soldiers fight to defend if he thought he could get away with it.
November 24, 2005 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm confused about the accusation of indifference to Pakistan. The article you link to talks of 3 British Chinooks in the airlift efforts, but at the end discloses that 15 American Chinooks are involved. No doubt we could do more, but I don't see how Britain the UN are somehow doing things we're neglecting to do, particularly since we pledged half a billion dollars in aid at the recent donor's conference.
November 24, 2005 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
When it rains it pours and opens doors And floods the floors we thought would always keep us safe and dryAnd in the midst of sailing ships we sink our lips into the ones we loveThat have to say goodbye...
When I Look to the Sky - Train
From the Times-Picayune, the Thanksgiving edition:
We're thankful, in short, to be from a place that is worth missing and mourning. But most of all, we're thankful to be from a place that is worth rebuilding.
November 24, 2005 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll give thanks when and if the criminals in the WH are tried and convicted as they should be.
Note this small piece.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10197204/
If the Brits are going after these folks for violating the UK Official Secrets Act, does that mean that the document is genuine and that its contents and the events described therein in fact represents a true accounting? If the document is not genuine there would not be grounds for any legal action. That is, at least not under the Official Secrets Act.
thepeoplechoose
November 24, 2005 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suppose it's one of those "cheer up they said, things could get worse, so I cheered up and sure enough things got worse" sort of columns.
November 25, 2005 4:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Oh my goodness" (That's Rummyspeak). I've been rated "not helpful" for pointing out that W is a warmonger who is killing people for no reason except to justify the deaths of those he's already killed needlessly. And I had the temerity to point out if Dick Cheney had his sick little way the only people who would be granted the right to dissent would be people who agree with him. The nerve of these two frauds who don't even believe in democracy in the USA to try to foist their twisted idea of democracy on the Iraqi people.
November 25, 2005 6:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I spent my Thanksgiving in self-imposed political exile in the UK, as a student at the LSE. And I must report, as a woman who still very much loves her home country, the US is in deeper trouble than you could ever imagine from a domestic vantage point. American credibility has not been "damaged" by its torture policies, its failure to help in Pakistan, or the ongoing insanity in Iraq -- it has been entirely destroyed. Similarly, our credibility as a scientific power is being steadily eroded (again, I would say destroyed) by the utterly non-sensical insertion of religious doctrine into science classrooms, our government's refusal to acknowledge, against all evidence, that human-induced climate change is a FACT, and our insistence on wedding abstinence polices to AIDS programs in HIV-ravaged Africa.
I'll say it again: we are not struggling to retain some final shreds of dignity. We are already a laughingstock. We are not perceived as a generally decent country under the direction of a madman -- we are perceived as a hopelessly irresponsible, religiously fundamentalist, out-of-control monster, armed with nuclear weapons and all the economic power the industrialized world can muster. It is not a pretty time to be an American abroad, or, indeed, to be an American.
I wish that I could muster some sense of gratitude, as Dr. Slaughter so eloquently does, but I find that I am unable. I maintain a fundamental hope that things will have improved by my grandchildren's lifetime, but given the trajectory we're on, I must say it is much more a hope than an expectation.
November 25, 2005 7:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
If enemy combatants don't have a right to habeous corpus just how is anyone goin to know they haven't been tortured?
Graham's judge-stripping amendment was designed to prevent the Supreme Court from taking up the case on 'enemy combatants' which the Bush Administration has been lobbying hard that the Supreme Court not take-up because it reduces the unfettered executive privilege Bush so dearly loves. Graham was just carrying water for Bush with the same old tired argument that it would clog the courts that te Republicans pull-out when they want to deny an individual a fair hearin against governmental or corporate abuse.
November 25, 2005 8:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
... which is why it's important for the American people to rise up and force Congress to impeach and convict Cheney/Bush. We have to show the world that there are plenty of clear-thinking people in this country who will use their influence to end the tyranny of right-wing extremists. That is the way to restore US credibilty.
November 25, 2005 8:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anne-Marie, I'm pleased that you linked to the editorial in the New Orleans Times-Picayune. The officials and the people in New Orleans are reduced to begging for their levees. In my grandchildren's school, as part of a civics class lesson, the kids are writing to the Congress, imploring them to build the levees to protect them from a category 5 hurricane, so they won't drown or have their houses washed away or flooded. Now, is that not a pathetic state of affairs for the country to be in? To have children begging for protection?
Here's a link to another front page editorial from the Times-Picayune.
Here are the final words of the editorial:
Some voices in Washington are arguing against us. We were foolish, they say. We settled in a place that is lower than the sea. We should have expected to drown.
As if choosing to live in one of the nation's great cities amounted to a death wish. As if living in San Francisco or Miami or Boston is any more logical.
Great cities are made by their place and their people, their beauty and their risk. Water flows around and through most of them. And one of the greatest bodies of water in the land flows through this one: the Mississippi.
....
Some people in Washington don't seem to remember that. They act as if we are a burden. They act as if we wore our skirts too short and invited trouble.... Remind them that this is a singular American city and that this nation still needs what we can give it.
November 25, 2005 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Meanwhile W has really important stuff to worry about such as dropping white phosphorus on Iraqis who we are freeing from the guy who dropped chemicals on his own people. I guess it's OK because their not Bush's own citizens. At least the kids are getting an early lesson in how important it is that we citizens be vigilant and make sure we have competent leadership. Having the Stupids in charge never works very well.
November 25, 2005 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm still really puzzled by this whole thing. I don't know why Graham, given everythign else he's stood for, introduced it, and I don't entirely understand how the counter-amendment introduced after the weekend came to be. I feel like there was some kind of gambit going on here, with Graham, but I haven't been able to figure it out.
Can anyone help me out on this?
November 25, 2005 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
My kinda Democrat
Chavez orders subsidised heating oil for poor in US cities - Press Trust of India Fri, 25 Nov 2005 8:32 AM PST
Washington, Nov 25 (PTI) In an apparent political jab at the Bush Administration, Venezuelean President Hugo Chavez has ordered a petroleum company owned by his country to supply more than 12 million gallons of heating oil to the poor in US cities of New York and Boston at 40 per cent below market prices.
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My kinda Democrat
Chavez orders subsidised heating oil for poor in US cities - Press Trust of India Fri, 25 Nov 2005 8:32 AM PST
Washington, Nov 25 (PTI) In an apparent political jab at the Bush Administration, Venezuelean President Hugo Chavez has ordered a petroleum company owned by his country to supply more than 12 million gallons of heating oil to the poor in US cities of New York and Boston at 40 per cent below market prices.
November 25, 2005 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Great Katrina Revanche
Seen it lately?
Musta flown south for the winter
November 25, 2005 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
To begin with, the humanitarian/human rights community's expectations for expedient relief are high. Plus it is keenly aware of the hostilities toward Pakistan's government. So I'm not surprised to find a few voices to balance out the tide of negative perceptions. s
November 25, 2005 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
we are all going to have a whole lot of fundamental problems to deal with
Yeah, and I would add to your list that we need to make some kinda fundamental change to our media institutions. Not sure what, but... something. Right now our media seems to be broken.
November 25, 2005 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have been suffering from a pervasive underlying sense of depression, almost despair, at what is happening to this country.
Welcome to the fellowship of the miserable Anne-Marie. I have been suffering from the same syndrome since about October of November of 2001. Someone asked me back then what was wrong, and I said "I feel like my country is dying."
The country I grew up in is gone. Bush and Cheney are just the undertakers. Americans themselves administered the poison.
November 25, 2005 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for this post. We need to keep New Orleans current in people's minds and hopefully hearts. There are so many problems that still exist there. FEMA abandoned the Katrina victims by transferring much of the responsibility to rpivate agencies, and it is shocking that theu will be forcing evacuees out of hotels, while at the same time alot of housing has not been completed. I do not understand why are top officials can be so cold-hearted.
November 25, 2005 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
November 25, 2005 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank a civil rights lawyer for your freedom. (Equally accurate.)
November 27, 2005 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unequal in sacrifice
November 27, 2005 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
sm said:
Sargent Noclue responded:And I say all civil rights activists and innocent citizens.
Seems that Sarge has no clue as to the history of the murders of voting-rights activists in Alabama, Mississippi, Texas and elsewhere, along with numerous other acts of violence and terrorism perpetrated on American citizens who sacrificed for the good of all mankind.